245:, and instead to break up a monolithic article into pages/segments with a unified TOC and navigation at the start and end of each page reminding users that they are in the middle of a single article. I'm no expert in "naming standards for articles" (link?), but here is a link to my suggestions for naming/format standards for
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posted elsewhere somtimes though, like i mentioned home front on the halo page, and was thinking of mentioning on some aircraft pages games that have them in it. Its weird with mods rivaling official games in content and innovation. Let me know if you have any more ideas for standerdizing disambigs for this stuff.
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Sj- I haven't looked through enough of the 'pedia to select pages needing copyediting the most, so I will go along with your suggestions. I know that you will find German articles written in
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after I left in frustration.... one needs to provide a source -- especially when talking about speculations. Had the contributor merely wrote what "is taught by Rabbis in Moscow", I would have had no objection to it. If you can attribute the POVs he expounds, I for one would be very happy; I enjoy
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The reason I'm treating each model separately is so that if I or someone else wants to add more information, photos, drawings, etc. on a specific model, it can be done without causing undue confusion. If all of the models are listed and described on the same page, I'm afraid things will eventually
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Wow nice user page man! Like the talk comment thing. Yea I hear ya on the mod stuff-things link to random links, disambig issues. I if there was a standard like just (mod), (computer game mod), or (BF1942 game). A lot of mods cross multiple engines so I cant use BF:1942 throughout... Mods do get
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Please explain about the -- I am surprised to hear it, and have yet to notice.... Speaking of which, we should probably draft a quick addition to the current
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necessary, or just a single hyphen?), ellipses (three or four dots at the end of a sentence?), &c. (use an ampersand in &c., write out etc., or either? disallow parentheticals after sentence-ending abbreviations, due to final-stop ambiguities?).
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Spanish Knowledge, and that is sometimes referred to as "tabla de Sabbut" in edit summaries in the Spanish Knowledge.
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Not at all; you were also once severely provoked by trolls, in public. Perhaps on IRC? In any case, lest there be any confusion, you rock. (: villiany is far more ambivalent than villainy.
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