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Okay...I have fixed the table, substr the ones I found that were not, and removed a user template category. Now, you might want to remove all the
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There were no controversies arising from the
Medieval Spherical Earth template. I don't know what your motive is but I notice from looking at your userspace that you have appropriated a large number of other non-controversial templates into you personal userspace where they cannot be found by people
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idea is a good one, IMHO. Lots of people have tried it with different "proxy" names, but admins keep on blocking and/or deleting them. For some reason, they just don't want to let that happen. I've never really followed their logic behind it either. I believe WikiProject boxes as project subpages
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Wait, I've looked around, and do userboxes for WikiProjects need to be in userspace or is that just opinionated userboxes? I'm confused. Too many conflicting messages here... I'll leave them for now, just in case. Sorry for bothering you, but you seem to be much more knowledgeable about this stuff
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Just a random thought that found me while I was on your page: What if there was a user created called "box," and all userboxes were subpages of that 'user'? Technically they would be in userspace, but would be easier to figure out for people trying to use them. I'm just thinking, it's hard to
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Since you appear to have taken over the religion user boxes, could you add my Unity Church userbox to your page. Also, the no body mofication one, since the whole beliefs page is gone. I want people t see they exist, since my user page probably isn't seeing much
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By now I'm sure you know I will not be reverting this move. Of course, you always have the option to do this yourself, or even move the box to your own userspace. In any event, thank you for your sincere feedback. Regards,
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I went through and removed the other user space pages, but I wanted to ask you about it first because you have so many and they're the closest thing we have to an "official" user space archive. Let me know what you think.
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where the comment functionality is being added (ignore the category tweak at the top of the edit, the actual code insertion is further down). Also create a category called
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are very safe where they are. (I just made one today myself.) Established ones in template space are quite safe too. Probably "one" new one in template space would pass
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get around to paring down the backup pages to just basic info, including original ParserFunctions, etc. They don't need to be in any cat. I've had good luck with asking
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Thanks, that was a "quick and dirty" move after a new wave of boxes "magically disappearing"...part of the price to pay for an uncertain and "dangerous" wikiworld. :-)
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who may wish to use them. Further, as I see the etiquete of
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Hello, Rfrtsbie! There is a voting at Meta for opening a
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Bypassing redirects. See WP:GUS, Replaced: User zodiac:Virgo → User:Rfrisbie/Userbox/Zodiac:Virgo, using AWB
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Copy and copy alike. I liked your user and talk page design so much, I adapted it for myself. Thanks :) --
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I saw one example, but I couldn't see how it worked. I'll look at your examples later today. Thanks again.
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281:Hi SteveMcCluskey,
201:New quote & pic
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1152:Coinsidence
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869:? I expect
122:This is an
2454:complained
2259:everything
1562:Perfect! —
1392:User:Boxes
619:Joe Sewell
484:Thanks! --
2623:Regards,
2583:ONUnicorn
2540:Regards,
2531:category.
2447:overlords
2441:Hooloovoo
2257:I copied
2087:of them
2021:resources
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1253:Userboxes
613:Box fixes
161:Archive 5
2625:Rfrisbie
2592:Contribs
2542:Rfrisbie
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2418:Quiddity
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2179:Rfrisbie
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2039:Cheers,
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82:esources
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1942:Thanks!
1450:suppose
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125:archive
90:alettes
22:Archive
2315:Cool!
2095:great!
1642:Hmm...
1397:Cyde's
1136:WP:GUS
1013:Zodiac
650:WP:GUS
594:Done.
426:ad hoc
347:WP:GUS
322:, and
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290:userfy
286:WP:GUS
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