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extrapolate from what I see, those fundamental differences will remain even after these projects are complete. Personally, I'm interested in encyclopedic content and not so much in dictionaries. Since I also have very little interest in the topics of your projects, I'm going to renege on my offer to assist in further developing them. Sorry for letting you down, but my interests lie elsewhere.
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dictionaries. Conversely, links to dictionary definitions, don't measure up to links to encyclopedia articles, IMHO. That's why I support keeping "real" glossaries in
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doing it. Go figure. I'd appreciate it if you would continue doing it on my directory pages. Otherwise, users will see a soon-to-be-deleted link with no redirect information left showing in the directory.
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