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alumni chapter at SF would be listed under that. Also a couple of other things. First, when did graduate chapters being able to make full brothers begin and were they first among the NPHC for that. Second, In regard to the template, I'd love to use Baird's as the source and forget Title IX entirely; that would have Alpha Phi Alpha as Social however. Perhaps have one entry for type in terms of Baird's and then another for area of emphasis which for the honoraries would have things like Tau Beta Pi: Engineering. Alpha Phi Alpha could have service there, if you think appropriate...
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That looks cool, but let me talk to the other people who have been working on there. One issue is the graphics that we use for
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Just following up. Spoke with my father who assures me that he and Joe Doria were inducted into the Omicron Sigma chapter together and both were members until graduation. His theory is that some names were added to the database when the chapter wa reactivated in 1996, but not all the records are
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Because I'm your clone who was sent back in time?:) Seriously, could you take a look at the Alpha Phi Omega talk page and give your opinion on the text that I put in the sandbox page about women joining alpha phi omega from the 75th anniv
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Phi Omega Philippines and Alpha Phi Omega-USA are bound the way that two different National Scouting organizations are. Also, can individual Alpha Phi Alpha chapters make honorary brothers? The only honorary I see is Hubert Humphrey.
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