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general, including those for subjects, which are frequently very different things. As an attorney for Creative Commons I think it is absolutely correct that the licenses minimize the effect of moral rights as much as possible (the drafts for the new version are public, and make that clearer; our public wiki has more on the topic). But what Commons does as a matter of policy should not rely on any effect or non-effect of the copyright law definition of "moral rights"--Commons should do the "right thing". I do think that as a community Commons should take much more care with being sure that subjects of photos are fully consenting (and I say that despite the fact that my opinion diverges from Jimmy's on the proper scope of Commons; I am fully in favor of having educationally-relevant images of the full range of topics covered, where subjects have given their informed consent, though I also think that this only works if we are not stupid about exercising editorial judgment--that we aim to inform readers as fully as they wish to be informed, but avoid being gratuituously shocking).

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doesn't accept that... - but the person explains the situation with "Rebecca Thacher Clarke" (as name) fairly convincingly (Agnes Helferich was her mother's maiden name; indeed it would have been fairly unusual to give someone one's mother's name while they were still living for a middle name. But Thacher was her grandmother's maiden name (on her father's side), which makes more sense...)

641:! This event will focus on Smithsonian history including the history of the Institution's museums, archives, research centers and the people behind them. This will be a great opportunity to learn about the Archives, work within them & with staff, and learn more about the world's largest museum complex. We hope you'll join us on Friday, May 25. Please sign up 839:. Drawing from their vast vaults of art, the caretakers of the Smithsonian American Art Museum have meticulously drawn forth canvas jewels to import into Wikimedia Commons and Knowledge articles. The museum directors and staff are excited about this project, and would love to have experienced Wikimedians help in the effort! 2766:

used your article as a supposed example of Jimmy's hypocrisy - supposedly non-notable Wikipedians are getting articles here! (No, I never got the logic of this). A related editor, now banned as a sockpuppet, then slapped the article with a "sources needed" template, which I removed as being "pointy".

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The festivities will take place on Friday evening from 6:30 PM to 9:00 PM in the Zenger Room on the 13th Floor of the National Press Club, located on 529 14th Street NW, near Metro Center. There will be meat and vegetarian appetizers as well as a cash bar with specially reduced drink prices all night

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My evidence unfortunately is only a cc'd email claiming to originate from a niece of the composer, now in her eighties (I do not say I have reason to doubt this, just that laws of evidence and Knowledge would probably only allow this to be cited as "Personal correspondence with..." and one accepts or

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Share-Alike license". However, I think these licenses are incompatible with each other and I feel something should be done to clarify whether this is true or otherwise. My concern is that we have a number of contributors at Wikiversity licensing learning materials partly inspired by this template for

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I think that the commons community has gone down a very sad and disappointing path with respect to ethical matters. My views on this are not new, and are well known. Our project is a grand humanitarian effort. That it has been hijacked by people who do not share our values is something that needs to

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When you contribute material to a Wikimedia project, you allow Wikimedia to host it under the terms of the acceptable free license. But that license is not exclusive—you may grant anyone else any other license you choose, but the recipient is always free to use it under the terms of the license of

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So I think that this is both a problem for Knowledge, and a problem for Creative Commons. SE is trading on the common understanding of what BY-SA means, while putting something obnoxiously different into the fine print of its TOS. There's some more analysis at the WT:CP link at the beginning of

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Knowing that information-sharing happens across nations with US-allies, a protestor in Istanbul could reasonably fear that an edit to Knowledge might eventually be shared with the government in Turkey, where the Turkish government might not have the same respect for human rights that we in the US

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Thank you for the notification. (However, my board term is ending in a week, so I will not have the opportunity to consider the issue!) I note that some of the discussion is confusing "moral rights" as a legal term of art for a set of rights sometimes attached to copyright with moral concerns in

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Hi Mindspillage, it's been a while since I've posted here! I hope you are well. I need some help with understanding this template as it is used in a lot of places. This template makes it easy to license contributions simultaneously under both the Creative Commons Attribution "Share-Alike" and

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Greetings! I don't think this sort of multi-licensing presents a problem. So long as the material is licensed under at least one license that is acceptable for the projects (generally CC-BY-SA or CC-BY), whichever other license the author also chooses to release it under doesn't

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DR about the Bejing 2008 Olympics, where the IOC is saying that they have the right to limit the license, and now some users fear legal consequences. A friend who studies also law says this case would actually never go to court cause the legal situation is clear.

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I considered sending this to the entire board, but honestly, you're the world's only attorney who's a "wikimedian first". You are uniquely suited to handle this particular matter, and I trust you to make sure that WMF handles this issues as best as possible.

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is popularly known as the "festival of lights", the most significant spiritual meaning behind it is "the awareness of the inner light". It is the belief that there is something beyond the physical body and mind which is pure, infinite, and eternal, called the

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As there is a Knowledge article about you, you are cordially invited to contribute a short audio recoding of your spoken voice, so that our readers may know what you sound like and how you pronounce your name. Details of how to do so, and examples, are at

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at our K Street office. The WikiSalon will be a twice-monthly informal meetup and collaborative editing event to help build the community of Wikimedia enthusiasts here in DC; please join us for its inaugural session. Light refreshments will be provided.

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on Friday, March 29, 2013 from 10:00am - 5:00pm. The event is focused on encouraging women editors while improving Knowledge entries about women artists and art world figures. This event is free of charge, but participation is limited to 20 volunteers, so

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The Knowledge training and editathon will take place in the Aaron Douglas Reading Room of the Jean Blackwell Hutson Research and Reference Division, with a reception following in the Langston Hughes lobby on the first floor of the building at 5:00pm.

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Thanks for looking at it, I will mention it over there if anything else happens or Guillom doesn't get back to me. I was mainly interested to see if I had done the right thing and if further action should have been taken by me - thanks once again :¬)

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This event is for any women attending Wikimania. Pick up your lunch, compliments of Wikimania, and join us at 1:30pm in the Grand Ballroom for a lively facilitated discussion hosted by Sue Gardner. We look forward to seeing you there. Please sign up

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this. While there's still ongoing discussion about having someone contact SE from Knowledge, I think at some point CC itself may have to get involved, assuming it isn't ok with SE's claims (I say CC should not consider those claims to be ok).

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The entire interview process is being overseen by MSU's institutional review board (ethics review). This means that all questions have been approved by the university and all students have been trained how to conduct interviews ethically and

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to put data from Congress onto Knowledge, as well as what more needs to be done. If you have ideas you'd like to contribute, or if you're just curious and feel like meeting up with other Wikipedians, you are welcome to come! Be sure to

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We further requested him to bring this matter to the attention of WMF and make a resolution or something to force Commons make enough policies to protect our rights as a photographer and our commitments to our subjects. He replied:

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in Washington, D.C. This edit-a-thon will focus on improving and writing Knowledge content about women from the Smithsonian who contributed to the sciences. It will be followed by a happy hour meetup! We look forward to seeing you

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Greetings! It's best if I don't get involved in the specifics of BLP complaints. Referring them to the OTRS agents for handling details involving personal inforamation is generally a good idea, though. You can also use the

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and four other local media nonprofits—the National Press Club's Young Members Committee, 100Reporters, IRE and the Fund for Investigative Journalism—in winding down another year with a night of well-mannered frivolity.

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I love your "how to win an argument" - I've read it before and chuckled. I disagree vehemently with Point 7 however - there's no "assumption" in play, I am clearly more intelligent than my opponent, and can provide

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on Saturday, May 5. This will be a great opportunity to meet other Wikimedians from the DC area, discuss upcoming Wikimedia DC activities and events, and have fun over dinner and drinks. All ages are welcome!

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provision about info from established experts, becomes unusable due to the nofollow issue. (Don't even think of suggesting that WP stop using nofollow, as it has saved us from insane amounts of link spam).

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movement and from educational and cultural institutions interested in developing free knowledge projects. We will also follow up on plans for recent and upcoming editathons, and other outreach activities.

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You are invited to join upcoming Knowledge "Editathons", where both experienced and new Knowledge editors will collaboratively improve articles on a selected theme, on the following two Saturdays in March:

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I am just one board member on this issue. I will continue to call this to the attention of the board and staff, but I need help from the community to illustrate that this is a problem that concerns many of

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Hi Kat/Mindspillage - I know we've crossed paths in the past, so it's lovely to see you again. I'm still here, still check in 3-4 times a week, still mainly edit as an IP. I actually wiki-bumped into

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All interviews will be completely anonymous, meaning that you (real name and/or pseudonym) will never be identified in any of our materials, unless you give the interviewer permission to do so.

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Last December, I invited you to share your views on the value of Wikimedia conferences and the planning process of Wikimania. We have completed analysis of these results and have prepared

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This event will include a catered lunch and special tours of the Luce Foundation Center for American Art and the Lunder Conservation Center at the Smithsonian American Art Museum.

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years now. I'd like to be able to suggest something concrete to these users about what to do now that at Wikiversity we have some awareness of a potential problem down the road. --

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to meet, talk, and edit. We provide the space, the coffee, and the snacks: you provide ideas and enthusiasm! On the second Tuesday of each month, starting November 12, 2013.

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I read that some 40+ groups are involved in speaking out against this level of data collection, including the ACLU, the EFF, and the American Library Association.

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at the Teamsters Labor History Research Center. Please join us for behind-the-scenes tours of the University Archives and help edit articles about GWU history.

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All interviews will be completely voluntary. You are under no obligation to say yes to an interview, and can say no and stop or leave the interview at any time.

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I myself happen to be a US citizen, so naturally I have a certain trust in the US govt. But I can't expect an editor in Turkey to have that same trust.

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on Sunday April 14 -this weekend- at Symposium Greek Restaurant @ 544 W 113th St (in the back room), on the Upper West Side in the Columbia University area.

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Bottom line is that we really need your help, and would really appreciate the opportunity to speak with you. If interested, please send me an email at

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Interviews can be conducted over skype (preferred), IRC or email. (You choose the form of communication based upon your comfort level, time, etc.)

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I'm not the best person to opine here--it looks like a few other admins have commented, but it seems like the sort of thing you might post on the

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Message added 01:40, 10 February 2016 (UTC). It may take a few minutes from the time the email is sent for it to show up in your inbox. You can

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Organized by Wikimedia DC, this event will take place on October 12, 2012, and will include new editor training, a "backstage pass" tour of the

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OK, thank you so much. This clarifies things a lot. Is it OK if I refer other Wikimedians to your post whenever similar questions come up? --

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All Knowledge/Wikimedia and free knowledge/culture enthusiasts, regardless of editing experience, are welcome to attend! All ages welcome!

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Hi. I really need some administrator-to-administrator advice. Can you offer your opinions on Question 2 - 5 that I've posed at the top of

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Join us at the NLM next week, either in person or online, to learn about NLM resources, hear some great speakers, and do some editing!

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to our roster, and otherwise join in the "open space" experience! Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --

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to our roster, and otherwise join in the "open space" experience! Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --

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to our roster, and otherwise join in the "open space" experience! Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --

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to our roster, and otherwise join in the "open space" experience! Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --

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to our roster, and otherwise join in the "open space" experience! Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --

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DC Knowledge meetup #28 is on Saturday, March 10, 2012, from 7pm on at Capitol City Brewery in downtown DC. (11th & H St NW).

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at the James Buchanan Memorial at Meridian Hill Park. We would love to see you there, so sign up and bring something fun for the

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My general experience has been that when the ACLU,EFF,& ALA all do something, the WMF should probably do the same thing.

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Hi Kat, I hope you're doing well, and I see you're not on WP very much any more, a loss for us but probably healthy for you.

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In honor of Women's History Month, the Smithsonian and the National Museum of Women in the Arts are teaming up to organize a

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reality. With this awakening come compassion and the awareness of the oneness of all things (higher knowledge). This brings

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describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail. If you wish to participate, you are welcome to

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He then promised to have the article deleted in January. I've beefed up the references so that they now include:

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long. In addition, we will be exhibiting the finalists of the Wiki Loves Monuments photo contest at the event.

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at Busboys & Poets on 5th St NW & K St NW near Mt Vernon Square. The area is easily accessible by the

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Hi. Thank you for your recent edits. Knowledge appreciates your help. We noticed though that when you edited

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movement and from educational and cultural institutions interested in developing free knowledge projects.

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This is more of a Creative Commons thing than a Knowledge thing, but I wonder if you could take a look at

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That should be more than enough, but if you know of other reliable sources, please do let me know.

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12:00pm - 5:00 pm at NYPL Schomburg Center, 515 Malcolm X Boulevard (Lenox Avenue), by W 135th St

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Featuring a keynote talk this month to be determined! We especially encourage folks to add your

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Featuring a keynote talk this month to be determined! We especially encourage folks to add your

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to that effect (aka, my own opinion, which is obviously reliable, because I am more intelligent,

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Afterwards at 8pm, we'll walk to a social wiki-dinner together at a neighborhood restaurant (

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Afterwards at 5pm, we'll walk to a social wiki-dinner together at a neighborhood restaurant (

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If so, join us on Saturday, July 14, for the annual WikiWomen's Luncheon (fka WikiChix Lunch)

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Wikimedia NYC Meetup- "Queens Open History Edit-a-Thon" at Queens Library! Friday December 6

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Upcoming Saturday events - March 1: Harlem History Editathon and March 8: NYU Law Editathon

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on the moral rights of the photographers and the personal rights of the subjects, he said "

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On Saturday, April 20, we've partnered with the George Washington University to host the

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would be answered more quickly and straightforwardly, and is already being discussed at

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to celebrate Knowledge Day and the 12th anniversary (!) of the founding of the site at

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If you want to offer your insights on Question 1 as well, can you do so there? Thanks!

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This month will also feature on a review of past and upcoming editathons, including

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Wikimedia NYC Meetup- "Greenwich Village In The 60s" Editathon! Saturday November 2

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celebrations being held across the USA. Remember it's a wiki-picnic, which means

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celebrations being held across the USA. Remember it's a wiki-picnic, which means

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share any personal experiences you have had at at a Wikimedia movement conference

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and use their unique resources to research and update Knowledge pages related to

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After the main meeting, pizza and refreshments and video games in the gallery!

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After the main meeting, pizza and refreshments and video games in the gallery!

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After the main meeting, pizza and refreshments and video games in the gallery!

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After the main meeting, pizza and refreshments and video games in the gallery!

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I'm sorry for the last-minute notice, but on Saturday, June 8, from 3 to 6 PM,

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The event's goal will be to improve Knowledge articles and content related to

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starting in 2018 as an experiment. Feedback and comments are welcome at the

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Join us for an evening of socializing, chatting about Knowledge, discussing

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Thank you for coming to the editathon on Sunday! Always good to see you :)

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Just some background. In December a well-known banned user who frequents

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Wikimedia DC invites you to join us for two exciting events this weekend:

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Everyone else participating there is only focusing on Question 1, which I

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this report summarizing your feedback and important changes for Wikimania

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I would like to let you know that your strong opinion along with others (

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an event aimed at collaboratively expanding Knowledge articles covering

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If you have questions or concerns at any time, feel free to email me at

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If you would not like to receive future messages about meetups, please

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You are invited to join us the "picnic anyone can edit" in Brooklyn's

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On Tuesday, 28 May there will be a community Knowledge meeting at the

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You're invited: Smithsonian Institution Women in Science Edit-a-Thon!

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Hello Kat! Please accept this kitten as a token of my appreciation!

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Knowledge:WikiProject Philadelphia/Philadelphia meet-up invite list

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The event is this Saturday, between 1pm-5pm at the Picnic Grove in

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Your op-ed in the Washington Post (reprinted in a college textbook)

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to our roster, and otherwise join in the "open space" experience!--

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Meet at G Street Lobby (9th St. & G St. NW, Washington, D.C.)

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Smithsonian American Art Museum, 7th & F St NW, Washington, DC

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Thanks in advance for your help. We have a lot to learn from you.

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is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Knowledge

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The Smithsonian American Art Museum and Wikimedia DC present the

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to get more information, including a detailed program schedule.

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May 3 2013, 19-20h UTC, GLAMout Google Hangout Link Location is

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Hello, Mindspillage. Please check your email; you've got mail!

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Webinar / edit-a-thon at the National Library of Medicine (NLM)

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civic edit-a-thon, Knowledge meet-up and instructional workshop

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We look forward to seeing you at one or both of these events!

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Wikimedia DC Holiday Party and Wiki Loves Monuments Exhibition

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Note: You can remove your name from the DC meetup invite list

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I wondered if it is possible you could advise on this matter,

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a consultation on the value and planning process of Wikimania

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An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect

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You're invited: Smithsonian Institution Archives Edit-a-thon!

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that will be held this weekend on Saturday, April 21, at the

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Canada and United States affiliates meetup at Wikimania 1015

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