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comments which were themselves contentious - such as the example given above. Knowledge policy states that blocks are to prevent damage or disruption to Knowledge. The examples of justifications for blocking given on the policy page are far more extreme than I have been accused of - and relate to articles, not talk pages, which themselves often contain very robust debate. There was neither damage nor disruption caused by me. I do admit that I have been outspoken on talk pages, and perhaps too hasty to remove what I felt was unsourced and incorrect information in articles. I would be more careful in future. I also note that blocks are not meant to punish, yet it appears that this was precisely why the block was imposed in my case - I must have expressed views which offended against the political views of someone.
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by numerous users what was wrong with your edits". I have several times addressed the reason for the block, and also pointed out that a permanent block is supposed to be an extreme measure, only used in exceptional cases - this cannot be one of them. The decisions to continue the block may or may not be unilateral - I have no idea, as they are made in secret
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I repeat that the reasons which I have already given for asking to be unblocked appear to have been disregarded, as did my earlier requests and arguments. The erroneous suggestion that I "cannot understand what was wrong with your edits" clearly confirms this, as does the claim that I "have been told
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I have requested a review of the justice, appropriateness or need for the permanent block. I do not understand what the request "Please include a decline or accept reason" means, assuming that it is a response to my request. Incidentally, I might add that according to my profile page I have made 1501
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block should not have been imposed at same time as warning being given. Allegation of trolling is disputed. There was no intent to provoke emotional responses, or otherwise disrupt normal on-topic discussion - Wikipedias own definition of trolling. Deletions were only made of uncorrobberated comments
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This block was clearly placed to prevent disruption and, honestly, trolling. I'm sorry that this feels like normal discourse to you. As long as you are unaware of the problematic nature of the edits, then the likelihood of repeating the disruption makes it unwise to consider an unblock. Please do
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The block should not have been imposed at same time as a warning was given. The allegation of trolling is disputed. There was no intent to provoke emotional responses, or otherwise disrupt normal on-topic discussion - Wikipedias own definition of trolling. Deletions were only made of uncorrobberated
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You were blocked days after your last warning. You have had previous warnings, and ample time to change your behavior. Your unblock request fails to convince any administrator that you understand why you were blocked and that you will modify your behavior if you are unblocked. As for trolling, the
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Also, you need to sign every post you make on a talk page. You do this by typing four tildes, which will look like ~~~~. That will automatically add your name and time of posting, which is necessary to make threaded conversation possible.
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No, the decisions aren't made in secret-they're made in public, right here, on your talk page. Looking above at this page, you have been warned numerous times for making offensive comments, for making comments in direction violation of
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Re: your recent deletions of sourced content, addition of unsourced opinion, and use of talk pages for commentary, it seems that the above suggestions and warnings are neither understood or heeded. I'll request administrative overview.
289:, can you elaborate on which part(s) you consider to be POV? I'm happy to edit the article to remove any bias, but it's not clear from your statement what you consider non-neutral. I look forward to your feedback. Thanks, -- 754:. Knowledge is not the thought police - editors are entitled to whatever views they hold. However, editing against basic policy and with the apparent aim of advancing one point of view is likely to result in sanctions. -- 1174:. I am declining your unblock request because it does not address the reason for your block, or because it is inadequate for other reasons. To be unblocked, you must convince the reviewing administrator(s) that 574:, off topic comments can and will be removed. There are thousands of places on the internet where you can get involved in arguments about homosexuality, politics, etc. Knowledge is not one of them. 1166:
If you cannot understand what was wrong with your edits then it is not going to be in Knowledge's best interest to unblock you. That others may have behaved badly does not excuse your behavior, see
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Hi - I was wondering if you could re-write that paragraph as I can't make heads or tails of it. If you could just say what it means in simple language. Thanks. --
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template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired.
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template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired.
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template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired.
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template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired.
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If you cannot provide such a source within ten days, the article may be deleted, but you can request that it be undeleted when you are ready to add one.
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Hi, I removed your comments to the Peak oil talk page because they do not address improvement of the article or discussion of the sources (see
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If I say antisemitism I mean antisemitism not anti-zionism. I have a great deal of personal experience of both and can make the distinction.
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are clear and obvious enough. One does not use talk pages to leave disparaging comments that have nothing to do with improving an article. ~
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If you created the article, please don't take offense. Instead, consider improving the article. For help on inserting references, see
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Please sign your posts to talk pages. You can do this by either typing four tildes (~~~~) or clicking on the signature button
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Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the
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to the top of your user page, which will add you to this category automatically and also add a nice graphic.
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policy and breaches the formal tone expected in an encyclopedia. If you would like to experiment, use the
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Welcome to Knowledge! I am glad to see you are interested in discussing a topic. However, as a
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Hi John good to see you made it. Looks like you're finding your way round no problem. :) —
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Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at
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not remove declined requests from this page; this is stated explicitly in the notice.
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Please do not remove content or templates from pages on Knowledge, as you did to
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Hello, JohnC. Just letting you know that I replied to your comment on the
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please take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you.
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the block is not necessary to prevent damage or disruption to Knowledge,
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regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.
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Hello John. As a courtesy I want to let you know that I have nominated
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Please pick one and remove the other or remove both and post another.
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and breaches the formal tone expected in an encyclopedia. Thank you.
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which were themselves contentious - such as the example given above
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And you're still doing it (which I warned you about last month), on
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and asking them there instead of on article talk pages. Thank you.
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Please do not remove the tag unless the article is sourced.
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If you want to make any further unblock requests, please
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Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.
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if you'd like to experiment with test edits. Thank you.
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Notice of discussion at the Administrators' Noticeboard
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are for discussion related to improving the article,
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262:To suggest otherwise is patronising and offensive. 660:. Your behavior is beginning to cross over into 391:that directly supports material in the article. 54:Talk:Extraordinary rendition#Terminology.2C_again 726:Knowledge:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents 1184:the block is no longer necessary because you 1155:edits - only a handful have been objected to 743:Consider this a one and only warning. Read 52:Hi John, please look at my question under 1187:understand what you have been blocked for, 562:Hi. I just removed 2 of your comments on 747:. Do not remove sourced content (as here 147:Please do not add commentary or your own 1193:will make useful contributions instead. 461:for deletion because of concerns about 402:. 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Index

Christiaan
User NZ res
Onco_p53
00:27, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
Talk:Extraordinary rendition#Terminology.2C_again
Kosebamse
07:27, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
Stbalbach
01:05, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
January 11
2007
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War in Afghanistan (2001–present)
neutral point of view
sandbox
neutral point of view
no original research
AuburnPilot

05:50, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

personal analysis
Paul Watson
neutral point of view policy
Terrillja
talk
07:00, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

citing
reliable sources

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