User talk:Jogers/Archive 1

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in text, thus if the preference doesn't work in text I am not concerned, there are plenty of unlinked dates and of course spelling variations. I imagine that the majority of people who bother to set their date preferences prefer day month or month day depending on US or Commonwealth English preferences. Because your bot is changing the work of so many editors, I maintain it is doing harm - it will be impossible to undo should consensus uphold the approach I and others have taken. I believe you should not be changing en masse the work of many editors. I have raised my concerns at bot approval. --

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case it should be the same here- even if only in the interest of accurate articles. The point is moot now anyway and we've kinda gone off topic but i will say this- in certain instances things need to evolve from simplistic rules and laws which do not take every eventuality. The rule of law states that in order to stay relevant rules must evolve- by using the artist's official capitalisation, we have a new precedent and the system works- otherwise too literal an interpretation, which granted- stops abuse and keeps everything to a similar standard, creates an absurdity.

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the image needs to be discussed in the context of the article somewhere. I understand that this isn't the prevailing usage on Knowledge right now, but that is pretty clearly what our policy states. This is an issue of Foundation policy regarding copyrights, not consensus, so I don't know what taking it to the Wikiproject's talk page would accomplish. I am not proposing anything new or doing anything but asking people to follow existing policy. (

1756:. When I've tried to find where such a consensus was reached for music, I've found pointers to discussions that in no way reached a consensus and references to policies that don't say what the anti-piped link folks say they say. Personally, I feel like someone looking for context about a musician's era would be much better served by a link to a page specifically about the musical era. 1216: 2617:. Renaming Microsoft to Micro$ oft would be a good example if the company officially used the second spelling. In that case the article should be named just Microsoft and possibly mention the stylized typography in the lead section. This would be more similar to this case when "official" capitalization is replaced with proper one. Jogers 12:13, 24 March 2007 (UTC) 535:" (try to say that 6 times fast). I was wondering why you are removing it. Because often Templates are copied from page to page. (such as the Alternative disambiguation link multiples rapidly. Could the nowiki thing be so that when the template is copied and somebody wants to add a review it doesn't try to do something else or is this hear for no reason)-- 3068:" links?), and in fact I think that if there is anything that might resemble a policy it is to use the most specific link posible. I do not understand why you have done this, and your explanation gives no clue. I therefore will consider it my duty to reverse these changes whenever I find them, and I hope that you will desist in the future. -- 3469:

article. The whole reason we have to have fair-use rationales is because it isn't enough just to copy-and-paste a boilerplate rationale. Don't panic - your images are alright; I just don't really think it's a good idea to have a generic rationale in that article. It might be better if we found some great examples of rationales (like

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It's not a bad fair-use rationale; I would prefer to see more inclusion of critical commentary about the cover but I can live without it. My issue is that I think we will see (as we already see from other WikiProjects) a bunch of copy-pasting without actually justifying an image's use in a particular

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Date preferences allow people to read 11 September or September 11. This is a document in words and I am less interested in pandering to people who wish to read 2001-09-11, that is not narrative. Such a way of expressing dates may however be a useful date preference for viewing lists of dates, not

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Yeah, i see what you're saying, but in my opinion the whole precedent is backwards, and in matters of capitalisation- the band's standard should be the adopted standard. I agree as with matters of the Prince logo and Korn, where its a character that is the problem, but when a band uses a particular

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refers not only to special characters but also says to "capitalize trademarks, as with proper names" and "follow standard English text formatting and capitalization rules even if the trademark owner encourages special treatment". I find this perfectly clear. The issue of non-standard capitalization

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The policy says that the boilerplate text is not sufficient on its own to justify a fair-use rationale. Fair use rationales need to include an explanation of why that specific image needs to be in that specific article, and the image needs to be used for some sort of critical commentary - that is,

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I never said I own the article; and I'm quite familiar with that policy, thank you very much. I was simply pointing out to you that - since your edits were CLEARLY contested by myself - then the accepted course of action is for you to take your proposed edits to the article's talk page, instead of

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Actually, I have just made no further comments right now because I've been quite busy. I intend to dispute the MoS: both the actual guidelines, and the extent to which these "rules" should apply to in-line text (as opposed to only article titles, which is what the MoS heading is primarily about).

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Because I would rather you not. If you wish to discuss this, please enter into a discussion on the article's talk page. In the meantime, I am disappointed that it looks like you wish to start an edit war, since you made changes directly yourself (not using AWB) after I asked you politely to stop.

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effort that your bot is undoing. I understand that the bot will leave just years alone, but the problem is, the Project uses this to note specific special events, like maiden flights, etc. There is no consensus to do away with the "Year in XXX" links, and the MOS even allows it, so until there is

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Sorry, i should have made it more clear what i meant. My point is, one cannot claim official and unofficial spellings of a name has a bearing on capitalisation. Capitalisation doesn't have an effect on a spelling of a name as per a point i thought you were making a while back. To get back to the

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As per Aradecki, given the discussion elsewhere there is not full consensus for the date links, I do not think you should be operating your bot. It is undoing the work of a lot of editors who have given some thought about the links. For example, I think it is much more meaningful to link an

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It was on the Illmatic page and that was a featured article. Not to mention admins have come across the pages many times and edited and they did not see no problem with them. I don't see it as decorative at all. They are used on discography pages in a similar manner and that isn't decorative

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Believe it or not, not only do I check for double redirects, I normally will go to the "what links here" and follow all of the article links, correcting the old names within those articles. Probably not necessary, but my obsessive-compulsive nature just doesn't like loose ends like that!

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That's OK; I didn't mean to sound too aggressive about it, as the question of phrasal verbs is one that anybody can get mixed up about, and I've got it wrong about some verbs in the past. When I used to teach English as a foreign language, it was a topic that I dreaded having to explain.

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cannot be left in their correct typeset. I understand the limitations of the actual page name, but if I was the creator of the name of a band and it was used incorrectly, I would not be very happy. There are references all over the Internet, including official ones, which show that the

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Those proposals have been sitting there for months. I'm trying to somehow get the word out to interested parties to bring it to a definitive conclusion. (Perhaps if album covers are excluded from the finalized guidelines, that can go some way towards pushing back the fair-use tide.)

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point. Official literature/ websites of the band write the name in lowercase and although there are rules about capitalising in article titles and capitalising trademarks, i can see no rule which says one must replace correct representations of the band name with incorrect ones.

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Thanks for adding the rationales. They help the fair use experts determine if the given claim of fair use is appropriate. My understanding is that album covers on the pages about the albums are safe, but it's easier to require the rationales everywhere. ~

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capitalization is NOT corresponding to the standard of the English language, and in most cases this was done on purpose. It is not an accurate representation of the name ... I thought one of the things Knowledge tried to strive for was accuracy.

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stuff used to be mandatory in order to display the reviews section correctly so it appeared in the guidelines about the album infobox use. Now, it's no longer necessary. Moreover, the reviews section is now optional and removing the <nowiki:

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before I noticed that you did just the opposite some time ago. Which particular naming convention did you mean? I thought that the particles of phrasal verbs should be capitalized in titles. So do adverbs, anyway. Jogers 19:03, 24 February 2006

2287:- creating a separate template is now not necessary. But personally, I don't think that using album covers in this fashion is a good idea and I would be surprised if we reached different consensus nowadays. Jogers 12:10, 20 February 2007 (UTC) 3492:. I'd be willing to accept a goodly number of false positives, as long as the net is wide enough to catch all of the real ones! I've been trying to fix them as I go (a basic arrgh to the Japanese titles) - this would be a great help! 2731:

of band names has been discussed on several occasions and as far as I know the consensus was always in favor of standard English capitalization. I don't see a reason to make an exception in this case. Jogers 13:52, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

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edit you added the extra line or if AWB added the extra line because they have 2 sequential AWB edits so it seems strange AWB would find more white space to fix a second time around. also is there a reason the page has "<nowiki:

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Put it there to double check that it wasn't an intentional mis-cap in the official title - one other source had the caps this way, wanted to look into it further - then went to bed. Will follow up on it today after work. Ciao! :)

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What official sources do is less relevant than what secondary sources do. The proper capitalization in English language is "Matchbox Twenty". I'm not sure what is your point about "mATCH bOX tWENTY". Jogers 12:37, 24 March 2007

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Why on EARTH have you killed the capitalisation on all of these? That is NOT what they are called- the band makes a point of not capitalising their own name, their album names and their song names. Why did you change them all?

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Then surely the procedure then is to put a disclaimer on, which makes mention of the capitalisation being for technical reasons. Besides, the naming conventions refer to the article name, not how it is spelt in the article.

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THANKS!!! Just a question on deletion of the created redirect pages... is it ok to request a "speedy delete" of the incorrect capped pages? I'm not sure of the protocol on that. Thanks for any advice you can provide.

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Can you please halt the replacing of "XXXX in aviation" into years with your Jogersbot. The ones involved in the creation of aviation articles has put a lot of work into this and I suspect they won't be happy with this.

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It can't be automatically distinguished, in English I can usually spot them, though. Annoyingly I had intervened on that one becasue of the alternate titles to track 2 and the "additional tracks". Thanks for the note.

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among many examples of articles that sparked extensive discussions about usage of non-standard capitalization of band names in Knowledge articles. I'm sorry I wasn't more convincing. Jogers 14:55, 24 March 2007

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So, how about another round now that we've got all the bases covered? Plus, this is the perfect chance to get some feedback on all the new features. (I suppose I should do some conversions, then... Soon, soon.)

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Oh dear, I hope there aren't many like that. It's the reason the code above uses instead of \s, so I'm not making any more of those errors. I just came across a listing where the times were in instead of ().

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a technical restriction on wikipedia pages, and the article should state this, wikipedia is the only place, minus unofficial, amateur and non-expert 'sites, where i have seen the capitalisation. If i renamed

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Is there any particular reason why the perfectly adequate term "Personnel" has been replaced with the overly general "Credits" on so many album pages? It seems totally pointless and in no way an improvement.

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Please desist from changing years in ... to years. Date preferences work with the years in ... and editors have chosen to be specific rather than general - specific links are more useful. See discussion at

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i.e. look for header plus zero or more lines consisting of (#, maybe spaces,one or more words, anything) and followed by one line starting with # and some words. Put quotes round the words. Last track done.

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template was created (this template had "last cover", "this cover" and "next cover" parameters which allowed adding album covers to chronologies). After extensive discussion the template was redirected to

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I wish you would reconsider whether the most valuable use of your Knowledge energy is removing piped links to "Year in music" articles. There is no WP-wide consensus that such links are inappropriate--see

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decorative purposes. Although those pictures do add decoration, they do help the user browse the albums based on picture. For example, a user might recognize the cover of an album, but may not recall the

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What makes you say that "get off" is a phrasal verb? Like "get on", it's merely the verb "get" with a preposition of direction; there's no new meaning not derived from the meanings of the two elements.

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Hi - just wondering why you removed the link to Horst Jankowski. He's a pretty famous pianist, therefore would suggest the link is a valuable piece of information. By the way, he's no relative of mine!

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I haven't really considered this before it came up on my talk page, and since apparently people think I would make a good admin, I might as well give it a try. So, yes, please go ahead and nominate me.

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to Knowledge articles. If the bot reverted a legitimate edit, please accept my humble creator's apologies – if you bring it to the attention of the bot's owner, we may be able to improve its behavior.

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is now a guideline. Thank you for your active participation in the discussion. The guideline will always be open for new proposals and amendments. As for now I invite you to join to the discussion in

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some time ago. To be honest, I'm indifferent to the matter bacause I'm not a native English speaker and I don't really know which term is better. I didn't mean to do anything controversial with

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Because they entirely failed to assert the albums' notability, containing just a tracklisting. Did either album rank in a significant way in a major national chart? Did either gain any awards?

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I added the extra line manually. I find the page easier to edit if there is a line between the infobox and the rest of the article. It doesn't change the way it is rendered. The <nowiki: -->

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Hmm, what's the procedure on replacing a template with a redirect? Any? I do want to clarify this because there's actually a third infobox that's become obsolete due to the new changes ({{

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seems to have stopped suddenly. What happened? I was happy with the improvements that we were making in order to create this guideline. I wish we could restart the discussion. Thank you.

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just deliberately re-doing them. I see you have now started a discussion on the page - thank you. That is the correct course of action. We shall leave it up to consensus to decide.

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I usually remove any remaining characters from the "Reviews" field so the professional reviews section of the infobox doesn't show up. Do you have any idea how to automatize this?

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Thanks for fixing all those infobox 2's. I've seen dozens of your AWB edits popping up on my watchlist over the last couple of weeks too, so I think you deserve this :) Take care!

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I believe that I copied that from the album page quite a while ago... it's easy enough for me to remove that last |, but I really can't remember from where I got the original.

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to the article (e.g. identify the subject of an article, or specifically illustrate relevant points or sections within the text) and must not serve a purely decorative purpose.

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does seem to be an ideal example to use. Now we just need an example on the Album infobox talk page... I was never sure why that seems to have been maintained independently. –

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Thank you so much :) I guess I'll continue to pop up on your watchlist since this AWB stuff is just great :) Once again, thanks. Jogers (talk) 09:49, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

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I'll try this out. Thank you for everything. If you improved any of these settings I would be very glad to know. My improvements and additions are usually reflected

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I'll try to help you in your effort. Unfortunately it won't be possible before the end of this month, as I have to get by project deadline in real life (at work).

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I've seen by your edits that you might like Nickel Creek...I invented this WikiProject to help improve the articles, but I can't do it alone! Please consider! -

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Yeah, I was thinking that you knew how to, since I saw that you moved the page back in early January, but I wasn't sure. I guess I wanted to just remind you.

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Is the link above ok? or is it better to put it in a separate subfolder? If the second is the case - feel free to create one under my username. Thanks.

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Jogers, the poll for switching the hue used for the studio album templates is now closed. The consensus indicates support for switching to lightsteelblue.

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Thanks for the offer. I think I'll wait a couple of months and then maybe try again, signing the acceptance and giving a little more eager answers. ;-) --

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wow, i couldn't seem to find any other templates for multiple infoboxes, and thats why i created mine.. anyway i put what i have to say about the matter

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if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable under fair use (see

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I'm not sure about it but it's customary that studio albums of notable artists have individual articles. Some editors expressed different opinions (see

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Hi, Can you confirm i've done this right - All instance of anything like "Track Listing" or "track listing" etc etc, need changing to "Track listing"

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cut and paste an article's contents into the new page. Doing so destroys a page's history. Use the "move" button up at the top of the page. Thanks.

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However, because it's probably going to be some time until I get around to that, I shall let your changes stand. No point in warring over this.

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because if the term "Personnel" is somehow more adequate it should be restored to the guideline. Regards, Jogers (talk) 20:24, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

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Although no consensus was reached in the end, I still wanted to thank you for your nomination and vote in my recent RfA. Thank you very much!!!

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Sorry, didn't complete my sentence. I meant that, now and then, an editor comes along who seems to think that they should edit the template

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Many thanks for the offer!! I'd be glad to 'host' the list in my sub-userpage, where I already have a "toolbox" set up for easy reference

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Thanks! I guess it will take me some time before I figure out how it works. Take a look at the regexes I use to clean up album articles (

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The next line attempts to normalise the header - note it doesn't work with headers other than level 2 (though this can easily be fixed).

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What most places do is irrelevant, the point i am trying to make here is that official sources spell it without capitalisation, as per

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to Knowledge! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

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on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you have any questions, check out

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Does the colon do something special? I know it does with categories, but not sure what it means for an article. Just curious. --

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Please stop and revert back your edits. Any more edits of this nature and i will warn you for vandalism, as you now know better.

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I've tried to update the template but I don't usually update this type so could you check for me. I think it's right. Thanks. -

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although I find it quite unlikely in this case. There is nothing special about this band name that would differentiate it from

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Using fair use album covers in album chronologies is therefore inappropriate. This issue was specifically discussed after the

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I have tweaked these to avoid "this album" in the text. (I work with non-case sensitive - so it was capitalising This album.)

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It seems that last January you edited a lot of files, including many which I created, to change references to "<year: -->

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OK Thanks for your reply. My opinions aren't going to be of interest to anyone else, I suspect, but I'll try. Thanks again.

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Thanks. I'll try get the articles about the remaining Kult albums started by this time. Jogers 15:07, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

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It is different because the second letter is capitalized as explained in the guideline. Jogers 15:13, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

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I have explained the issues to License2Kill; I think you should be able to finish the job without further problems. Best

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Yes, because the MOS is only a guideline, and that section even allows for a variance, in specific instances. Please see

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That refers to none english characters. Think about the absurdity created here, rules exist- but rules have exceptions.

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For your tireless, Working Man's approach to editing, I award you this barnstar, which comes with its own ghostly aura.

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the band name qualifies as trademark. Please, consider discussing your doubts there. Jogers 13:24, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

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and I'm sure that the article is going to be recreated soon. If you feel it should be deleted please nominate it for

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Thank you very much for your involvement in the overall effort; as well as voting on the suggested change. --Cheers,

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P.S. If you can post your .XML file, I'll incorporate it in what I'm doing, or maybe it could be a separate bot run?

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It may be a good idea to convert the articles using the templates before we list them for deletion. I'll do it soon.

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I thought any preposition, excepting those at the beginning and end of a title, was lowercase. I could be wrong... -

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I'm not a native Enlish speaker but it seems to me that "up" is the part of the phrasal verb in this context. Here

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I wasn't aware there was a standard capitalisation of the English language, but in consideration of the image on

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by making the artist parameter optional. Thanks for pointing this out. Jogers (talk) 10:52, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

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Added to the ignore list for AntiVandalBot....... a few new pages had sprung up since the bot last ran :) --

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it's quite a complicated process to sort this out, so once again, sorry. Jogers 13:45, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

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Thanks a lot! This is very convenient, I used to line them up by hand. By the way, when I make an edit like

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It looks good. The separation of the advanced section should help both migration and new users alike. Also,

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which is perfectly enough. Technical restrictions are not the case here. Jogers 11:51, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

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nothing happens when you enter data into the sample template on the template's page (or the project page)

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without the template but personally I don't find it very useful. Jogers (talk) 16:39, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

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that prompted an admin to protect it. (Maybe this finally explains how the album infobox got protected.)

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The first line gets rid of spurious spaces at the end of headers - these were mucking up the next line.

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If you are interested in joining a potential Project Wiki Christian Metal project go here to sign up.

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Thanks for your help with my extra album covers question! By the way, tasteful choice for an example.

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prevents it from showing up in case there are no reviews listed. Jogers (talk) 09:15, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

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according to Knowledge policy, please provide a rationale explaining as much, in accordance with the

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has shown up, and appears to be the same guy. Also, he's just made a long string of similar edits to

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policies. Let me know if he keeps vandalising the page and i will get an admin involved. Thanks!--

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How do you like an idea of splitting the advanced usage information into a seperate section like

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Erm, wait... It's not quite working yet. I just managed to break something else by deleting the "

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Hi. I've noticed that you contributed to Kult-related articles. I've just started articles about

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I've read that in this case it should be capitalized. Jogers 20:14, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

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Plus, you can see that the majority of uses of this song title include the capital "Of":

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for usage instructions would be a better solution. Jogers (talk) 16:01, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

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Tangentially, I've been contemplating adding a message to the templates to explain that

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Exactly, why is it any different? Surely, that also covers band, album and song names?

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I see that you already did this. Why don't you restore articles about its albums too?

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I'm not sure if it really has to be maintained independently at all. Maybe linking to

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I'm not sure what's the point about them. I thought that you might be interested in

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Thanks for the comment. If you have more thoughts, please join the new discussion:

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You can cut an paste (from the edit window because of &) into an AWB XML file.

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Ditto - you are doing fantastic work Jogers and your barn star is well deserved.--

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as to why its use in Knowledge articles constitutes fair use. In addition to the

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I haven't thought of this. Good idea :-) Jogers (talk) 13:11, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

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Orphaned fair use image (Image:Wilson_Pickett_-_The_Sound_of_Wilson_Pickett.jpg)

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There seem to be several people who disagree with your approach. The deabte at

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so I'm stopping to make this change for now. Please consider discussing this at

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If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the

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Why are you removing them? Is there a rule about them that I am not aware of?--

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http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Council/Proposals#Christian_Metal

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Ack, my bad. Good call on the "du hast" thing. Thanks for the correction. :) --

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Are you going to tfd these. Why not just redirect (and preserve the history)?

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Re:discussion about the Template:CurrentAlbums and the Category:Current albums

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are some examples. What do you think? Jogers (talk) 23:18, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

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Actually, most pages I found on Google refer to them as "Matchbox Twenty".

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Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style_(dates_and_numbers)#Suggested_change_to_MoS

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It does nothing when there is text between the header and the first track.

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It breaks when there's () or - in the title, or other special characters.

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Oh, and if we redirect the various artists infobox, what do we do about

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Do you use a regular expression to place songs in quotation marks like

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Hi, Thanks for pointing out the right use of the album template to me

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Knowledge talk:Criteria for speedy deletion#Proposal for Music Samples

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I was changing "Personnel" to "Credits" because I was asked to do so

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Please leave the Buck-O-Nine page alone, as you are breaking links.

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Thanks, I will be careful not to do that by accident again. Happy

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Please stop incorrectly capitalising the band's name. The name is

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Australian election to the Year in Australia in which it was held.

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Improved sub ("Compiled by" is one letter longer than the others)

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My instinct is to do the move to that title as I typed, with the

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Sure, if you can provide a valid assertion of a) why the band is

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Thanks for alerting me. I posted my rationale on the talk page.--

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Wanna confirm my gut instinct on this one? The actual title is:

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Your bot is still at it, and I'm reverting it. This format is a

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The band has released two albums on important independent label

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Album infobox advanced usage documentation at WikiProject Albums

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I see no absurdity here but consider sharing your thoughts at

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Knowledge:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Bot_Gone_Wild

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related articles... Would you consider becoming a member of

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Thanks for the ref, I'm having a goosd look at your regexes.

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Fair use rationale for Image:Keel - The Final Frontier.jpg

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The same purpose that pictures on the discography serve.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/South_Central_Cartel#Discography

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WP:MOS-TM#Trademarks which begin with a lowercase letter

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saves lists of pages since recently. I don't know why.

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before you warn me. Jogers 11:21, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

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Well, you ought to go try and explain things over at

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I would just convert the articles using the obsolete

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This is something I'd planned to do for a long time:

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Repeated reg-ex - under development and not perfect.

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Thank you :-) Jogers (talk) 09:04, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

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