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taught among the people and strongly believed that the Torah was subject to individual interpretations—after rigorous study—and therefore was open to discussions and analysis. Their name was established from the word “Kara” in Hebrew, meaning to read, and hence they were the readers of the Holy Scriptures. The first recorded historical documentation of their existence was tied to the ancient Essenes during the period of the second temple. Like their Essenes counterpart, the Karaim split from the ruling priesthood in Jerusalem, for they considered it to be tainted, hence they chose to seclude among themselves near the Qumran Mountains. However, the Karaim shared few ways of life with the Essenes, other than the plain fact that their religious beliefs dominated their lives without hindering their daily cultivation of the land, and their resilient and ardent patriotism. The Karaim subsequent chronological citation was well established with the discovery of the Qumran caves and the finding of the Dead Sea Scrolls. These scrolls provided the modern era with the oldest known preservation of the Hebrew Bible. It was also believed that the Karaim fled the mountains during the brutal Roman massacres of the Jews in Judea and their relentless pursuit of the Essenes afterwards. With the sudden weakening position of the Essenes, and the continual increasing influence of the Pharisees, the Karaim embraced comparatively more liberal attitudes regarding their daily life, while strongly abiding to the four important principles of worship, repentance, charity, and study. Subsequently, the Karaim flourished in the eight century in the current era through the expansive literary work of David Ben Anan. Their mission advocated the three pillars of Judaic faith: The written law, the inference of the Text, and the yoke of inheritance.

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they are simply not well enough read in a subject to know fact from fantasy, or they are highly indoctrinated in a set of beliefs, or (for various reasons - emotional, cognitive, etc.) impervious to rational discourse. In other words, things may be reasonably proven, but many people are not reasonable. Sometimes one reaches a point in a dispute where it becomes clear that your worldview and those of the person you are debating with are so far apart that there is no way a concensus can be reached. In that case, you are left with two choices; either continuing to press your position, or withdrawing from the debate, "agreeing to disagree". Sometimes I feel strongly enough that my own view is correct that I tend towards the former, while other times I just don't think it is worthwhile pressing my case. Regarding blankfaze's views on my edits, I already pointed out in the pages that I felt he was holding me (and others) to a standard to which he didn't hold himself, and that his views differed radically from those of other editors. He clearly disagreed, and I felt the dialogue had gone as far as it could go without leading to animosity. In such a case there is obviously no point in saying "I'm being reasonable while you're not", when the other person feels the exact opposite. Thus I opted for the more neutral statement

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something in an article is false, it is a criticism of the article, not of any particular individual (such as yourself). People enter false information into Knowledge articles all the time, often with no intention of doing so; rather, people are often simply misinformed about many things. For example, the other day I removed a false quote about Ariel Sharon from a Knowledge article. I'm sure the person who entered it there thought it was true, as it has been repeated on hundreds of websites; nevertheless, the quote itself was still false. In a similar way I thought the quote given for Nixon was false, as a quick search of the web found literally dozens of websites quoting it, but none giving attribution of any sort; just the kind of thing that makes me suspicious that a quote is false, or perhaps apocryphal. However, a subsequent search eventually turned up a credible attribution, which I then brought to the attention of the page.

1445:, Los Angeles, CA in 1995. A few years ago I wrote an article for a local newspaper on this issue, and tried to get permission to print the article. Despite letters and phone calls, I was unable to track down anyone who held copyright to it; the people who sent me the article from LA told me that I was free to publish the entire article, or parts therein, and that they could not provide me with copyright information or the name of the author. They allow others to post the entire article on their website, notably Rick Ross, an anti-cult educator. I suspect that the author or authors of this article want to avoid being sued, and wish that this material be widely distributed, and are deliberately letting this article pass into the public domain. 408:

repudiating any relationship with the Ananites. I say "some" Karaites, of course, because other Karaites do not repudiate this connection at all. The scholarly view (which sees al-Kirkisani and Anan ben David as part of a continuum), and the views of some Karaites, cannot be entirely ignored in favour of your view, which would like to excise Anan from Karaite history. The fact that al-Kirkisani criticised Anan is neither here nor there; Rabbinic Judaism is filled with later Rabbis criticising the views of earlier Rabbis, yet they are all part of Rabbinic Judaism. In fact, you've inspired me to add the views of other Karaites to the articles referring to them.

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longwinded stories, but it would be inappropriate for me to speak as an administrator without being even-handed, which is why I addressed both of you and requested that you both provide sources. I am satisfied with the level of evidence you have provided for your claims; I am still waiting, however, for Zestauferov to come up with something more solid than his circular arguments. I'll make a brief comment on the article talk page now, and probably something more substantial tomorrow (more than likely, by the time I get back, there'll be another long story from Zestauferov to digest before I can reply). Anyway, it's good hearing from you!

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article (and others), and his distortion of the views of Jewish groups, are straw-man attacks. As you know, no mainstream Jewish denomination, organization or group has ever claimed that a criticism of an Israeli policy or government is anti-Semitism; no on here on Knowledge here is saying that either. Simonides' repeated claims to the contrary are Jew-baiting strawman attacks. They are not only factually false (and thus have no place in an encyclopedia), but will only serve to encourage open anti-Semitism. This isn't about a disagreement on how to phrase facts; this is about his manufactoring of

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international) and hence its use to all states/parties/peoples involved in conflict. I feel a problem exists, as the term used in this sense must also apply to Israel (and for that matter Tibet). This term is not used in the main pages of it's neighbours while describing relations with Israel. It may thus be percieved as, at worst biased and at best, superfluous. Your comments on this would be appreciated. I realise this discussion may be seen as petty, however unbiased information is hard to come across and the perception of bias is just as damaging as bias itself

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consistent in that usage. And some usages certainly are preferred, for good reason, since other usages may be derogatory, or reflect various biased POVs. Let me give an example; let's say a number of Knowledge articles, drawing on sources from the early 20th century, consistently referred to American Blacks as "Negros". I personally would have no difficulty with someone going through all articles using the word "Negro" (unless it were in a direct quotation), and changing it to a more preferred term.

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respresent other POVs too and write in a NPOV style). I think it's a serious problem that there is no "recall" procedure for admins. If I imagine being an admin, I think there is a temptation of using that to further POV sometimes, and this temptation would be much less if admins were more accountable. So just for the record, I decided (to be consistant) that in the unlikely event where anyone nominated me for admin I'd oppose my own nomination with the same reasoning I gave to oppose yours. -

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that their view be included i.e. "some people say that around 6 million Jews were deliberately killed by the Nazis, while others say that at most a few hundred thousand Jews died, that it was not deliberate, and that the current beliefs are a plot by Jews/Zionists to create the State of Israel and hold the world to ransom." In such cases I strongly resist the "some people believe 2+2=5" views, with mixed results.

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or not 2+2=4. While I felt you made strong arguments, I felt (and still feel) that mine were stronger. I also thoroughly enjoyed the debate (unlike other simultaneous ones with other editors, which were much more filled with ad hominems and rancour). That said, in the end I acceeded to your viewpoint, and the article was linked to Category:Wall.

1629:, since you are all both knowledgeable and (usually) sensible. I will not attempt to replace the present illiterate mess with my new version until I get comments and some degree of support from all of you. If and when you all approve of it, I also want a commitment from all of you to protect it when I install it. Hope this finds you well, 2215:

him politely but unequivocably that such behavior is not welcome and will eventually get him banned. After that, I'm not quite sure. You can put up a "request for comment" page, or you can request arbitration, but I haven't figured out the exact steps that are standard. You might want to ask someone more experienced than me.

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scientist (molecular biologist) and strongly believe that most things (excluding of course e.g. religion or ideology) can be proven as correct or false, while you may come from a different academic culture (plaese don't take this last remark as the arrogance common among some scientists, which personally I deplore )-

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So you only demand apologies from people who are being voted on for adminship? By the way, you still haven't apologized for your continued "stalking" accusations. I believe stalking is a criminal offense in most Western jurisdictions, regardless of whether or not one is being voted on for adminship;

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material, not more. Most of what you included was personal opinion, and the rest might be better in a separate article (e.g. an article on the Golden Rule, listing its use in various cultures). And while I agree that Paul was the founder of Christianity, that is a highly controversial opinion that I

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Jfdwolff, I was highly insulted by your post to me in talk:ultra-Orthodox Judaism, in which you insinuated that I had not even read the article about which I was commenting. I'm also insulted by your implication that I have made any personal attacks here on Knowledge, and would like you to point out

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I'm going to unprotect both of these pages, for two reasons. 1) You shouldn't have protected them, as you were involved in the disputes, and were doing revert and protects. 2) It looks to me like this is not so much an edit conflict as a case of a POV pushing numbskull. I'll leave a note on his talk

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is, in fact, highly controversial, and (to my mind horrifyingly and sadly) there are tens of millions, and perhaps hundreds of millions of people in this world who sincerely believe there was no Holocaust, or that it was engineered by Jews/Zionists. And they do regularly come to Knowledge insisting

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From what I have seen there is an issue of admin accountability on Knowledge, and if there is no recall procedure there certainly needs to be one; while most admins seem to discharge their responsibilities responsibly, I've already noted a couple of admins who use their powers in highly questionable

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Hi Jayjg, just voted against your nomination and I feel a bit bad about that, because my justification has more to do with Knowledge procedures than you, and it could also be applied to me since I tend towards representing a particular POV in controversial articles too (although I do my very best to

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Perhaps you misunderstand, Xed. The articles on Knowledge are not "owned" by anyone, but are a collective effort. In fact, feelings of ownership quite frequently contribute to edit wars, and are strongly disapproved of. The articles here are the collective effort of everyone; thus if I state that

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I've glanced at it, and it looks quite promising; I'll try to read it thoroughly over the next couple of days. Just so I understand the context better, what major flaws in the current article do you see your article addressing? Also, how do you want people to communicated concerns, copyedits, etc.

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page? I think I understand your POV, but I still think some of those things belong on an article about Jesus... for example, the bit about Saul was to clarify why Jesus is regarded as the "central figure" of Christianity and not its founder. And I thought the piece on the life and teachings of Jesus

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I'm not sure what you mean about this word being offensive. What isn't offensive? Gypsy can be offensive in some contexts, refering to itenerant people of any ethnicity. Where I used to live people said "gyp" to refer to an unfair deal, as in "Three dollars??? Thats a gyp". Where I live now the word

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If Irate is consistently vandalizing you can ask he be blocked for 24 hours as a start. Otherwise the first step would be to tell him nicely on his talk page his behavior you object to, and ask him to stop. If he refuses (or simply continues the behavior) you would need to document what he is doing

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Eventually it may turn out that the user is persistent and unrepentent, and there may be a need to take steps toward getting the guy banned. Fortunately or unfortunately, you can't just ban someone. It's best to leave a message for the person on his/her talk page explaining the problem, and telling

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Regarding the Category:Wall question, thanks for reminding me, I couldn't remember where we had met before. I think we had an excellent debate on the topic. I don't think the categorization of whether or not the barrier is a "wall" or a "fence" or a "barrier" is nearly as cut and dried as whether

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I'd be very interested in your opinion. I think it relates to the question of integrity. I also think that it is particularly a problem with people who feel a strong commitment to any nation (all nationalists) or ideology. I suspect we may have slightly different views on this, maybe because I am a

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original ideas from me; they are based on numerous articles and letters to the editors in Orthodox Jewish journals (e.g. the articles currently referenced in the article.) I have no problem with noting that a controversy over their views and impact exist, and I do not expect or desire that only one

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Hi Brutannica; I think you would be doing everyone a favour if you cleaned some old discussions out of the Talk: page, and then propose your own changes. If no-one objects to them after a day or two, then you can assume you have a green light. The only other thing I might recommend is "hiving off"

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Even though you are now an admin, I strongly suggest that on any page where you have a stake in the matter and you think protection is needed, you should request that exactly the same way you would if you weren't an admin. Keep your editing function and your admin function separate. If you want to

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Just got your note - boy did you mean it that "voting ends very soon"! I would have been glad for the chance to vote for you, you do wonderful work here, but regardless I'm very glad you got the nomination. Mazal Tov and Ketivah va-Hatimah Tovah (in both real life and in your virtual life here)!

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Hi Jayjg, I want to change my vote. I think you're a good guy (with very bad politics IMO) and there's no reason for me to think you can't seperate the two. If you just give me some informal assurances that you'll be careful with using admin powers in areas where you hold a particularl strong POV,

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1. I believe the primary focus of the article should be a biography of Jesus and how his ideas influenced Christianity and subsequently, much of the world. I found this rather lacking. Around half of it focused on historical debate on Jesus; which is fine, and very interesting in my opinion, but I

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Hi Yoshiah. There are different views of the origins of the Karaites. The vast majority of scholars consider them to be descendants wholly, or in part, of the Ananites. Some Karaites, however, present a very different view, preferring to see themselves as descendants of the Sadducees, and often

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Hi pir, thanks for your question. I think it's possible you read a little bit more into my comments than I intended. I do think many things are amenable to reasonable proof. The problem is, some people "distort, misrepresent, and falsify facts" without even believing they are doing so. Either

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Hi Jayjg, to reply to something you wrote on the admin nomination page (and something where we may differ philosphically, one reason why I wasn't happy to endorse your nomination initially, and which I think you didn't really address in our dispute about the WB barrier/Walls category thing) (just

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You make some good points. Neutrality is certainly not the only goal in an article, and enhancing the content is important. That said, there are certain kinds of changes which should be done as a matter of policy. If a usage is preferred, by whatever measure, then Knowledge should strive to be

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Well, today is my deadline. Since no one's said anything, should I "clean up" the Talk page? If so, how would I do that? If not, then should I start reorganizing the article anyway? I know I'm probably not supposed to post this question here, but you're probably more knowledgeable about Knowledge

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Who are the “Karaim” Jews? To adequately answer this question, a brief history about their origin is appropriate. They are a little-known Jewish group, a branch of Judaism, who existed as far back as the days of the second temple in Jerusalem. They were scholars, many of simple backgrounds, who

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Hi Jay, I am not surprised by the talk silence, but I am disappointed. Isn't anybody curious or willing to take a chance on exploring unfamiliar territory. There are such wonderful things to learn. That's it? Anyway, thanks a lot,Jay. Maybe someday. It has been difficult to accept what my clergy

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2. I wasn't saying Saul was the founder of Christianity, I was expressing why I assumed Jesus was referred to as "the central figure" and not the founder. I think I implied that the religion had two founders. Even so, would explaining the differences between Jesus and Saul briefly in the opening

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I am becoming very concerned about the behaviour of Simonides; he has already declared himself an enemy of "Zionist" contributions to Knowledge, (although he has little idea of what this word really means; he uses this word as slur word.) Simonides's distortion of the content of the anti-Zionism

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Hi Jayig! Thank you for inviting me to review the Ad Hominem section of the Nazarene Judaism talk page. I'll write a more complete review tomorrow, when I expect to have more time, but for now, I'll make just a couple of brief comments (both here and on the article talk page). First, I think

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I hope that you understand that my concern is with policy and precedent. When looking down the road from the standpoint of the changes you propose, I see a great deal of trouble on the horizon which I think is avoidable. But I caused you to be offended, I think, so that now I can't seem to put

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Thanks for all your help. I thought about vprotected, but I wasn't sure that it was 100% clearly vandalism; it wasn't like they just deleted the whole page and put "ISRAEL SHOULD DIE!!" in; they did enter content, but they deleted most of what was there, and what they entered was highly POV.

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unfair, in my opinion, but also fallacious - yes, I would call them ad hominem arguments. Also, he has based a lot of his arguments on the "absence" of evidence to the contrary. I know of no court of law where such reasoning would stand up. From the start, I thought I could see through his

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Hi Jayjg, I may be showing my ignorance of wiki's here by typing in an archive or something. I am the person who questioned the use of the word "belligerent" in referring to a country's (in this case Israel's)neighbours. You are quite correct in your legal definition of the word (websters new

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Frankly, I'm having difficulty recollecting what prompted my above message. Having been around here a little while I've developed a (perhaps unhealthy) weariness of a particular type of discussion, and sometimes jump the gun in responding. Please accept my apologies again; may we work on many

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Really, Mshonle, you're one to talk. Read over your comments to me; see how full they are of accusations and innuendo that I have an "agenda" to equate anti-Semitism and anti-Zionism, that I am somehow threatened by your insertions, etc. Then look over my comments for even one case of "name

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If only you knew me you would see how silly it was for you to accuse me of intejecting my own personal bias. I am merely trying to state the case for the reasonable anti-zionist and set that apart from the anti-semitic anti-zionist. But, please, stop the name calling and inuendo and the false

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I'm impressed with your geniality on the seperation barrier page. Got any ideas on where to find more photographs? A brief Google search leads to to pictures that are probably more represenative of the majority of the wall. The only thing I could easily find that might be open license, or

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is not a case of just one person's NPOV is another's highly POV edit. Demonstrable, proven facts must not be subject to political discourse at Knowledge, even if they are outside of our beloved encyclopedia. Otherwise, we will be writing an Orwellian encyclopedia where we aren't allowed to

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Hi RK. I don't know much about Knowledge arbitrarion procedures (yet), nor am I familiar with Simonides aside from our interactions on the anti-Semitism page. I'm a little dismayed by his persistent personal attacks in the Talk: page, but I still intend to work through the changes to the

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The present article is very badly written and full of tendentious statements. Its main fault is that it tries to fit everything that happened in WW2 under the "holocaust" heading, which I disagree with. (Please reply to my messages on my Talk page - I only found your reply by accident.)

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article, nor am I involved in any disputes there. All I've done is put it on the VfD page, and put the notice on the article itself so interested parties can have their say. The only protections I've ever done were several days ago to the two articles you already know about.

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page pointing him to the NPOV policy and suggesting he try to discuss changes on talk. If he continues to revert war, or if he descends into the tiresome personal attacks that seem par for the course for most of the anti-Semitic trolls we get here, I'll block him.

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So, in short, I want to avoid reversion wars based on a "determinist" view of neutrality: where the content is decided on one side as though it were a matter of policy, and on the other side is perceived as the promotion of a particular (hostile) point of view.

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It's generally been hashed out that almost everyone accepts 75% as a dead minimum, and anything 80% or over as being approval. Between 75 and 80% some bueaucrat has to take it upon him/herself to read all the stuff and try to come to a conclusion. Cheers,

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anti-Semitism page, and hope he can come on board in terms of making some positive contributions, rather than just censoring views that he disagrees with. Once anti-Semitism is cleaned up, I may be able to look at other pages for POV and non-neutrality.

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think that would be a better candidate for moving to a separate article (or at least part of it). And even if you don't agree, then I'm not sure a separate article on Jesus's teachings exists, unless you count the mini-articles on separate teachings.

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You have seen (above) that these things can be tricky! Adminship is an early learning curve. I blocked myself for a week to spend less time on Knowledge, and ended up being censured for effectively blocking all other users on my ISP from editing...

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friends told me. " Charlie, if other people wanted to know the things we've taught you they would have asked for our help like you did. These things can destroy one's faith. You have great faith". At the time (too long ago) I just didn't get it.

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My congratulations, and I assure you that my comments were entirely well-deserved. Better men have gone up against the likes of Xed and failed to keep their cool, and your level-headedness is refreshing in an era of self-styled "rogue admins."

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By the way, have you insisted on apologies from Geogre as well, who first made the claim? I've looked in all the places you insisted on apologies from me (including his Talk:) page, and have yet to find any similar demands. This is confusing.

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Editorial policy should be neutral in the sense that, the policy itself should not create win/lose scenarios between competing perspectives but should rather mediate the conflict in order to enhance the informative content of the articles.

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I see someone has fixed this awkward phrase. Since the territory in question was formally under Imperial Russia's control at the time and the pogroms of 1881-84, 1903-05, 1915-21 are also associated with Russia, IMO it's cleaner this way.

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I strongly recommend re-reading my statement, which should answer your questions. As a bit of assistance, persistently unattributed quotes are questionable; attributed quotes are more believable. I also recommend reading the article on

2211:! You asked what to do next. First off, you'll need to put a protection notice – {{protected}} – on the top of each page you protect. Then wait a week or so, and then unprotect. Sometimes a "cooling off" period is all that's necessary. 147:

Jayjg, I trust you might actually want to make some additions to the project than just kicking up dust on talk pages. I'm convinced your intentions are noble, but some double-checking (the type that would have prevented your comment on

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Zestauferov is a good storyteller - but I'm having considerable difficulty in finding anything solid in his rather lengthy discourses. Attacking the validity of your facts on the basis of the beliefs he thinks you hold is not only

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Oh, and as a bit of advice, I strongly recommend bringing the rationale for your edits (as well as any attribution of quotes, etc.) to Talk: pages; this also helps head off any edit wars. I've left some comments for you on the

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I can't apologise for your stalking, you will have to do that yourself. I found it extraordinary that someone with your poor scholarly skills would be put up for adminship. It seems to have taken you a whole day to do a Google

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could use a LOT of material, considering how much is in the Scriptures, and I thought the Golden Rule and the Sermon on the Mount were good places to start. Sorry about the delay -- I didn't notice the change until today!

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When sensitivity to context is considered, it tempers my concern. I reacted to your edit notes and comments in talk, rather than the edits themselves. The fault for the battle that followed lies with me, in that case.

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One of the goals of Knowledge is to avoid POV declarations, at least not if they're unbalanced. But if you feel these changes are warranted you're free to go to the Talk:Jesus page and get other opinions on them.

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On the Karaite Judaism portion of the Jew page, you added the word 'later' and specified "Al-Kirkisani lived after Anan" - what's the point? IMO, the addition of the word 'later' is redundant, but that's just me.

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No problem. I didn't understand what the big fuss was about anyway. I looked at your edits, your history -- nothing seemed out of the ordinary. You handled yourself well during it all, too, which says a lot.

2236:. Unprotect it with a message like "unprotecting to see if vandalism resumes." If the vandalism comes back, reprotect for another day or two. If it doesn't, don't worry about it until the next time around. -- 1388:

Hi Jayjg, unfortunately I know very little about Rabbi Soloveitchik and cannot really comment on RK's edits. I'll review them more thoroughly later today (when I'm not at work). Nevertheless, RK has (e.g. on

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Yes I read it. You say 'Sorry if I misinformed anyone by seconding the statement that it was a false quote.' In other words you apologise to people who overheard a lie, but not to the person you lied about.

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I don't think that Samson Rapahel Hirsch and Joseph Soloveitchik are identical, or would have agreed on every issue. However, I want to make clear that the points I added to the articles on these rabbis are

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What did you mean? It is as if you were trying to say that I've been fooled by my own eyes. Please be mindful of the phrase you used. I am an Indonesian; I understand there are disputes on Aceh and Papua.

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I understand what your intention was. But I did not agree with the comment that you posted. Sorry, somehow that comment has a negative connotation in my perspective. Maybe you could add an entry on

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I think people are distracted by that. Actually, the whole Talk: page there should be cleaned up, most of the discussions there are no longer relevant, and people may not even see your questions.

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Regarding the Orwellian encyclopedia, I see traces of that in many articles, and I do attempt to improve it when I can; in fact, I believe I was the one who brought the whole concept up in our

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article didn't list the dispute in Indonesia. Since there are indeed Indonesian territorial disputes, it might have made sense to simply add the information instead, as I went ahead and did.

1470:. Sadly, these clowns don't actually read talk pages. They just leave their stuff and go away (various metaphors come to mind). I've found no other way to respond to them apart from reverting 1573:

Hi Jayjg--Yes, I think you are right, it may be best to ignore the deniers rather than debate them. I just lost my temper a little there. I know too many people who have suffered. Peace,

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As everything I've seen from them so far consists solely of partisan edits, your policy seems wise. Luckily it's only the meshichists who feel the need to spam the pages with their stuff.

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Thanks, I always relish being appreciated, it helps make up for a great deal of complaint (of which I have plenty ;). Keep up your good work here on the wiki, it is likewise appreciated :)

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By the way, Sam, I didn't thank you for doing this when I joined Knowledge because I didn't know how, or know who you were. Let me rectify that; thanks for welcoming me and posting this.

1393:) maintained that Hirsch and Soloveitchik are two sides of the same coin, something I take strong issue with. Again, I'll see what I can do. Please email me if things get out of control. 2567: 2008:

Not necessarily. If a person is so highly biased that they distort, misrepresent or even falsify facts, it is more than just a question of opinion. To pick an uncontroversial example,

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distance between the cause of my concern, and you personally. Not much hope of progress, if that kind of detachment can't be achieved; but I'm looking for a way out of the impasse.

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P.S.: I know this isn't your problem, but I asked at the Constantine I page and no one responded. HOW DO YOU SWITCH AROUND PARAGRAPHS? I never read about a Cut/Paste-type option.

2099:. Most of what you do is easily reversible by other sysops, apart from page history merges and image deletion, so please be especially careful with those. You might find the new 451: 1131:

I'll give it some thought, and see if I can say something helpful this time. Let me try the following approach, with three additional points that you might want to respond to.

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Hi Jmabel, you've misunderstood my comment. I haven't protected any pages since that first time which we talked about. That, in fact, is the protection I was talking about.

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No, I was more looking for names that I recalled had been involved in previous discussions/edits on the topic of Israel etc. I figured they would have an informed opinion.

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for the latest numbers I picked up from Jpost. In regards to Ru. Poland, I am familiar with the area, but this is the 1st time I meet this term. AFAIK, it is called either

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conscious not to protect pages where you have been involved in the dispute. I tend to go one step further myself: I generally don't protect pages I've been involved with

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I did not refer to any past behavior. I strictly requested something for the future. I understand how the misunderstanding happened, and I will endeavor to be clearer.

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Hi Humus. Russian Poland is not the Ukraine, ByeloRussia, or Lithuania, but the Polish speaking territories controlled by Russia, which Russia lost after World War I.

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when you have a chance? Perhaps you could ask others as well. I already found one minor problem and corrected it, and I have doubts about the accuracy. Thanks. --

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Most of them seem too small to show anything clearly; the last two are larger, and might work, but I don't know how you can tell if something is open license etc.

491:(still tentative). It seems you've already initiated some steps against Simonides; if he does not respond to mediation attempts, then arbitration may be required. 1845:

Do you imagine I spend my whole day on the internet doing Google searches? If so, let me disabuse you of this notion; my time today was put to much better use.

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Thank you very much for your response, Jayjg. Just out of interest - what do you think about admin accountability and my idea of having a recall procedure? -

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I find that your persistent rudeness makes it difficult to conduct any meaningful dialogue. Perhaps we should just stick to discussing articles instead; the

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Where is your apology? So your way of researching is that is a quote is on a lot of websites then it's not true (presumably if it has none then it's true…)--

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Revert wars can only really be stopped if some common grounds can be found between the reverting parties on the talk page. Otherwise, the normal rules for

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apply (e.g. first mediation, then arbitration). Someone who reverts the same article for 3 times without engaging in meaningful debate can be banned, see

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P.S.: I think Roscoe x might also be interested in expanding the "life and teaching" section based on his sub-headings and "Miracles of Jesus" red link.

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Clearly you spend very little of your time doing simple google searches, and prefer to waste your and other peoples time due to this lack of research.--

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Apology for the opinions... I didn't expect them to be controversial, and I thought they shed some light on things (ex., why Jesus gained a following).

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I'm sorry if the comment seemed negative; I was simply asking you to look again because I had changed the article to address the problem you raised.

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which now combines ancient Nazarenes and modern revivals. Users in the habit of reverting always have a covert agenda. Haven't you found that too?

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Hi. I noticed your most recent comment on the Wikiproject:Judaism and the Conservative bias inserted in some articles. All I can say is Thank you!

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Of course I wouldn't abuse my powers, and would be careful in their application; I take Knowledge quite seriously, and my own integrity as well.

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You have yet to apologize for accusing me of stalking you. By the way, isn't it an amazing coincidence that you just happened to show up on the

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I've banned the holocaust denier troll for 24h for completely ignoring my call to restrain himself (and rather throwing in more garbage). He's a

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Your conspiracy theories are fascinating. Did I make changes to your words on the Liberty page? Retract your lie about the quote immediately.--

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Congress Poland seems reasonable to me, though I don't think it's a commonly known term. It should probably have parentheses after it such as:

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Edit conflict. I tried to make it come out right. Thanks for fixing it. I'd be disappointed to see sections dropped out merely because they

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Are you now claiming he Nixon quote was unattributed? Instead of giving me reading advice, you could spend more time on your research.--

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it to be 5 and other 3. (To avoid misunderstaning, I'm just stating a general truth here, I'm not implying anything as to your edits.)

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I appreciate your writing me. Maybe you can explain what kind of trouble is on the horizon, so I'll better understand your position.

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Maybe you'd prefer I'd have said "differently abled", something so impossibly vague as to refer to anyone or anything? No way, no

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Feel free to ask me anything the links and talk pages don't answer. You can sign your name by typing 4 tildes, likes this: ~~~~.

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is a clinical term. I suppose I could have said "mental retards" or maybe "those suffering from mental retardation" but I'm not

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I would think an accusation of criminal activity would be more deserving of apology than a statement that a quote was false.

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Thanks Humus. I don't know much about home pages, though I see you helped fix mine up at one point. What would you suggest?

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in your demands. I've clarified on the page in question. Regarding your question about the Liberty page, please review the

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Please rest assured, I am not "stalking you". But thanks for your amusing comment, one gets few enough laughs on Knowledge.

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Hi Jayjg, I wonder what your take is on Gadykozma's compromise attempt for a new article, and the guidelines I suggested at

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If it is bad form to type discussions here please inform me. I am a new user to the wikipedia and in no way wish to offend.

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Doesn't seem as if anyone has other opinions at the time. Should I keep waiting until the whole naming argument winds down?

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Agreed. I created a redir. IMHO these details should be reflected elsewhere. There is enough controversies with Z. already.

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To be honest, the phrase "Russian controlled Polish territories" is probably better that Russian Poland or Congress Poland.

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has requested mediation concerning, amongst others, the following articles, some of which you may have been involved with:

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I really haven't done much on Israeli too much - it's a brave soul that edits those articles! ] 06:07, Sep 19, 2004 (UTC)

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If only those annoying patients didn't keep bothering you, you could get so much more important Knowledge work done. ;-)

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Jayjg, thank you for restoring my comment on the project talk page. It is something that I could not have done myself.

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Saw your note, thanks. I was away, will take a look. Pls do smth with your home page, it's a joke to leave it like this.

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I'm sorry you have become confused, it must be the result of your stalking. Geogre wasn't being voted on for adminship--

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wrong and the applicable Knowledge policies (e.g., "No Personal Attacks," etc.) Then you can proceed to file at

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some of the larger sections into their own articles, which is often done when Knowledge articles get too large.

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Thanks for the explanation. If you wouldn't mind, would you post links to the articles you plan to ammend in my

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Would you agree to discuss these issues with Simonides with the help of a mediator? If so, please respond at

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I am sorry -- I thought you had changed only the title. I have no excuse, other than that I am very tired.

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before carrying out tasks like deletion, protection, banning users, and editing protected pages such as the

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Um, it's not that I'm criticizing you or anything, but what was your rationale for removing my edits on the

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If they continue to do so, various remedies can be proposed, perhaps starting with Request for Comment.

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Well, the problem is, I don't know how to do that. Could you explain, or is a tutorial more appropriate?

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Hi Brutannica; I've archived some older Talk: and moved newer stuff to the bottom. I hope this helps.

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saying what you protected and why. Be aware that Protection is generally against Knowledge policy, so

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will help you identify vandals. Enjoy pressing the button and watch that vandalism vanish like snow!

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Request for assistance in a conflict between users regarding Canaanite and Hebrew linguistics articles

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I have removed the Vfd listing and the header on your userpage. I have also expressed my concerns on

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Congrats! I would vote for you, but I recieved your message too late. Good luck in your adminship.

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Did you drop me a note because of the Israeli flag on my userpage? ;) ] 06:03, Sep 19, 2004 (UTC)

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Hi Jayig! Congratulations on your promotion. Supporting you was the least I could do for you:-)

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They're the only ones with POV-axes to grind. I've caught a few, both with and without username:

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The article on Jesus is already twice the recommended maximum Knowledge length; what it needs is

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Truthbomber and 207.69.139.11 (probably the same user) continue to add circumcision nonsense to

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Again, I ask you to please not protect pages when you are one of the parties to the dispute. --

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P.P.S.: I'm going to be gone 'til Friday at the earliest, so you won't hear from me immediately.

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Thanks for your support for my adminship, and your kind words. Jayjg 16:26, 14 Sep 2004 (UTC)

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Thanks for your compliment, Stargoat. So far using Google and Yahoo I found these pictures:

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Why do you think it important to delete the reference to Constantin Brunner in the article

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Knowledge provides some solace during the long on-call nights in a darkened hospital :-)

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As well as stalking me, you accused me of making up a quote. You have yet to apologise.--

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and present your side of the story—though it's really nothing you should worry about :).

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Understood - now unprotected. If the situation arises again ask a sysop to protect it. -

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Congratulations! I'm pleased to see you promoted, and keep up the good work. Cheers,

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I find your statement difficult to comprehend. Did you read my response on the page?

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article after I had been involved in a heated series of edits and discussions there?

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Knowledge:Votes_for_deletion/Occupation_of_Palestine#Tally: Rephrasing the question

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It's alright. Let's bury the hatchet. It's just a misunderstanding. Take care :)--

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So much advice, so little research. Do the latter before indulging in the former--

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There is a lengthy and carefully referenced article about him and his work called

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Source: The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition

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Hello Jayjg, please see: Talk:Deir Yassin massacre; I would like some feedback.

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Hmm, maybe that's still not clear. I'll try again. I've never protected the

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That's the way Knowledge classifies it; there's nothing I can do about that.

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You removed to inclusion of Indonesia on the list based on the fact that the

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for simple vandalism I would only leave the protection on for a day initially

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I'm pleased to let you know that, consensus being determined, you are now an

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Anyway, most of the time protection and/or a warning works fine. Wikilove,

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O.K., you apologized for the talk:ultra-Orthodox Judaism thing, thank you.

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Oh, one other thing - you should, if you're protecting for vandalism, use

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It's good to see that there are "political" issues which we agree on ;) -

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Mazel Tov, may this be a good and sweet year, Wikipediawise or otherwise.

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Ah, it wasn't such a big deal after all. I was tired and crabby too.

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Glad to see you on the lookout for conflicts and problems though. :)

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3. But neutrality is not an uber-perspective that trumps all others.

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Hi Sam. I didn't see "retard" used as a clinical term on that page.

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Apparently your user page is no longer on VfD, so that's resolved.

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I've made some minor edits to the article, mostly facts and links.

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any. I'm having a hard time getting beyond these issues with you.

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edited ~2 days ago. His version did not mention Indonesia there.

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should be, beyond that of a redirect. Should it be put up for

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Hi Jayjg, I have nominated you for administratorship. Please

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2. Your comment, "what does this add?", is therefore apropos.

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Thanks, we will be spared that nonsense, if only for a day.

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Your interest and input would be appreciated. Thank you.

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after multiple reverts. 207.69.139.11 has now moved on

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Talk:Occupation of Palestine#Another_compromise_attempt

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one person's "NPOV edit" is another's "highly POV edit"

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one person's "NPOV edit" is another's "highly POV edit"

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2. A person considered to be foolish or socially inept.

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I'm adding this question to the relevant Talk: page.

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Yeah, I did a minor edit. ] 06:11, Sep 19, 2004 (UTC)

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Excellent advice; I'll do that from now on. Thanks.

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Ahh, to have an excuse to be very rude to someone...

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http://www.bobmay.info/images/wall/bethlehem_wall.jpg

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Knowledge:Votes for deletion/Occupation of Palestine

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which I got a photocopy of. It was published by the

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Knowledge:WikiProject Hebrew languages. Please join

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About Simonides and straw-man arguments against Jews

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Why don't you get a User login? 87:Knowledge:Bad jokes and other deleted nonsense 2676:Talk:Refusal_to_serve_in_the_Israeli_military 2248:Thanks for explaining, Quadell and Cecropia. 1874:page which I hope you'll be able to address. 674:Copyright © 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company. 229:. Post-1795 and post-Napoleon those parts of 194:articles together in a constructive fashion. 2734:Constantin Brunner and Jewish views of Jesus 2048:debate. Your "uncontroversial example" of 1274:Hi. I am on aol. my name there is daniwo59. 306:(the Russian controlled Polish territories). 2714:article, so I took the liberty to create a 964:than I am and besides, you answer my posts. 2403:Thanks for your support for my adminship. 1326:Thanks very much, I wasn't aware of that. 465:Update: The above discussion was moved to 2651: 1142:1. I say "enhance" rather than "balance". 489:Knowledge:Three strikes you're out policy 2937:. After that, you re-added Indonesia in 2171:Thank you all for your congratulations. 1556:with a ban - he suddenly started making 796:http://www.antiwar.com/hacohen/fence.jpg 512:Perhaps this could be covered under the 2443:so everyone can discuss it in context. 2130:Mazel tov!! ] 15:40, 13 Sep 2004 (UTC) 14: 2586:Charlie Turek, magician 17 Sept 2004 2411:Of course, I know you'll do us proud. 1356:Knowledge:WikiProject Hebrew languages 1350:Knowledge:WikiProject Hebrew languages 2430:Historical Jesus: Recent Developments 2319:requests like this in areas that you 2139:If you wanna have some fun, watching 811:http://www.nwsustain.org/DSCF0175.JPG 2678:under the heading NPOV. Thank you. 2370:You can't fake a cardiac arrest. PS 1443:Task Force on Cults and Missionaries 152:) might help. Also be reminded that 2712:The Protocols of the Elders of Zion 1508:and some anons. Today, the article 1439:The Truth about the Kabbalah Centre 551:humus_sapiens-{AT}-yahoo-{DOT}-com 37:Here are some links I find useful 23: 2933:by adding entry on the dispute on 2228:You also need to make an entry in 1798:arguments. Hope this is helpful. 1466:Hi JayJG. Thanks for your help on 469:. Your input would be appreciated. 24: 3033: 1617:. I am showing the draft to you, 1282:Israel's "belligerent" neighbours 830:Write and ask if you can use it? 209:Demographics & Russian Poland 77:Knowledge:Pages needing attention 2819:Would you mind taking a look at 2690:On Sep 20, 2004, anonymous user 2624:article. No harm done, I hope. 2003:copying my comment from there): 1681:the Administrator's reading list 1615:completely new Holocaust article 1552:for some stuff. I've threatened 1305:. 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