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For the life of me, I cannot see why the nationality of the presenting organisation is relevant. If both the ENO and the Vienna State Opera presented The Magic Flute, both in the original German, why would we call the first one "The Magic Flute" merely because ENO happens to be an organisation based
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I understand we have a difference of opinion between what you described as being "lack of balance". I cannot understand how a white predator who engaged in such heinous and unforgiveable crimes. whose "works of art" are a source of inspiration for deviant white pedophilias who continue to plague the
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How many people know the name of our first prime minister, or our first governor-general? I'd say a lot fewer these days than one might suppose, thanks partly to our "world class" "education system" . George
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I understand your reasoning. It's just jarring that the first person named in the lead (one of only two) is unknown to the vast majority of
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have you tried reading the article linked in the new york review of books? Search the quotations? Thank you, if you have any further thoughts please reply to my talk page before reverting any edits to Paul bowles article. here is the link for your convenience, you may start at the middle where he
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Hmm, mixing in â why not link to redirects???? It's usually the best solution (better than using a pipe) when the text that you'd like to have appear in the linking article does not match the article title. And I don't see any reason why the choice of the article title, from multiple plausible
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Also, it's rather disingenuous of you to reinstate your edits, then immediately request me to refrain from further editing. If you want to call in a moderator, that is your right; but you do it while things stand as they are. You don't request a moderator and then make a further edit before
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Thank you for the support. When there's a good redirect, why not use it? A woman who gets married but keeps her maiden name as her professional name. A village with a German name and a Polish name. Depending on context, the redirect may be the better choice. If a production of
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While I'm here, I'll just share that I'm very impressed with your userpage, and with all the work you've done on WP. I'm a newbie, so all I can do is gape in awe, and dream of making a userpage half that cool. Cheers ...
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Just in case anyone comes across this exchange and decides to Google the title, it turns out it's actually "Rosendahl and Gilda Stern are Dead", so they made the allusion very slightly less obvious than I had remembered.
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