User talk:FeloniousMonk/Archive 4

3229:, he edited it several times to misrepresent the issue it was discussing. I, and Zer0 as well, reverted his edits there. Nomen and Zer0 both broke the 3RR rule, and both were blocxked for 6 hours. This incident was 2 days ago (I think) and was noted by you, as an example of harassment. Yesterday Nescio didnt come on, however we reached a consensus, with the help of GTBracchus, on the issue of including the Iraq War in the War on Terrorism (no small task). As stated, he didnt come on yesterday, but today he did, and began to revert all of the edits to the articles related to the consensus. GTBracchus, and zer0 both told him to discuss the issue on a talk page, and I also asked Nomen to do this as well, rather than restart a revert war. He did not do this, though he did eventually stop reverting (he didnt exceed 3RR here). He then went back into the talk page, and brought back an old RFC that had previously been archived. Zer0faults edited the descriptions in this that were misleading of the issue, including a misrepresentations of the polls. Here, I beleive that Nomen exceed 3 reverts, reaching 4. I reverted once, because I too disagreed with his misrepresentations of the polls. I would not call this incident harassment, because we all have been working in similar areas. I think a more effective way of handling this may be to talk to Nomen, and again, try and get him back to the discussion table. If he just reverts stuff and gets into edit wars, or a war of words (calling zer0 and I zealots) it will not help anything as likely it would result in blocking. 2253:, to give people a chance to comment as to ways in which I can branch out or alter my contributions to Knowledge. An RfA seems to solely focus on how one's temperment and contributions relate to how they might handle administrative powers (and the consensus on that seems to be that I'm not quite ready); the editor review opens things up a little more to a larger focus, and I'd love to hear community feedback in the sense of that larger focus, too. If you feel you've already expressed yourself sufficiently when casting your vote, then by all means don't worry about it, but if any thoughts come to mind or if you'd like to expound upon any suggestions or commentary, it would be appreciated. In any case, I appreciated you taking the time to express your opinion on my RfA, and I thank you for that. — 4554:

report.) I wondered was Deuteronomy a sockpuppet of Isarig, but with absolutely no knowledge of the background, I wouldn't want to smudge Isarig's good name. Giovanni has a history of sockpuppetry, as we all know. A single 3RR report, which follows certain wording conventions, is not a good test case for identifying puppets without IP evidence. However, I would say the the revert of my removal of the invalid report from a sockpuppet was disruptive, and was motivated either by the fact that the report was about someone who had blocked him or that it was removed by someone who had originally discovered his sockpuppetry. I note that Giovanni, since returning, has claimed

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presumably considering them good sources. If there were other sources that you deemed authoritative, then they should be making signed statements with footnotes and references and not just appearing for interviews. Even then, the sources should be more than just opinion pieces. After all, the work of MacDonald published in the Occidental Quarterly, a journal of opinion, is well written and well referenced, but we should still be able to reject it for the selective analysis of facts that it is. I argue against it here

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contributions to Knowledge, both in terms of the areas in which I can participate and the manner in which I can participate. I do plan on, at some point in the future (although, I think, not the near future), attempting the process again, and I hope you will consider participating in that voting process as well. If you wish in the future to offer any constructive criticism to me, or if I may assist you with anything, I hope you will not hesitate to contact me. Thanks again. —

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clashed with. In general, I think it can be helpful with some people to give them the opportunity to cool down and save face, and I can't see that any harm has been done by giving Giovanni33 that opportunity. However, he has patently blown that opportunity, and in my opinion, he's asking for a prompt community ban if he keeps this up. That said, I wonder if it might be an idea to back off dealing with this guy personally, as you're obviously fairly emotionally involved.

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assure you that I had no sockpuppet and I would be very surprised if the user you blocked used my IP. My ISP is the largest in Canada so it's possible we have a shared ISP but Jay doesn't even allege that. The likelihood is that the possibility Jay mentions is based on our being in the same country or same city but as there are numerous Knowledge editors editing Arab and Israeli related articles from Toronto that is hardly a credible reason for a block.

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very small number of edits to articles that Gio wasn't editing, while making his puppetry obvious by showing up at Str1977's talk page to join in a dispute and tell Str why Gio was right and he was wrong. And Mika, last night, made two edits to articles with no connection to Gio. So anything that he learns about how to become better at puppetry will be eagerly seized upon and put into practice. In my view, this is something the ArbCom needs to deal with.

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factually he US did goto war as part of the War on Terror. I have asked him numerous times what would it take to convince him, or what would he accept as a middleground and my questiosn go ignored, or when the facts are presented and i ask if that convinced him or if he needs more info, that goes ignored. Perhaps you should look at his AN/A AN/I and 3 posts to admin user pages in the last day before you judge who has a grudge with someone. --

295:, as well as other sources: Christian Coalition, Eagle Forum, Family Research Council, Focus on the Family, Free Congress Foundation, National Religious Broadcasters, Southern Baptist Convention. Noting what significant and credible observers of the intersecting of politics and religion say about these groups is hardly "meaningless" or "fascism" and necessary for a complete article that covers all notable viewpoints on its topic. 3255:

all the votes said. Some said since its controversial it should stay out. Hence you were misrepresenting peoples views. I put it back with the votes and the questions that was asked and you reverted that, instead once again attempting to speak for the 10+ people who's votes you were calling. But you cannto speak for them and should not be summarizing 10 votes, some with a paragraph explanation into one single sentence. Its wrong.

5005: 3524:. Kindly address the content and not the contributor. Your calling me a "pseudoscience proponent" is not helpful, fair or accurate. If a friend of mine were to say he saw some fascistic tendencies in George Bush but didn't think Bush should be categorized as a fascist, I wouldn't go calling him a fascism proponent unless I were sure he was all thumbs-up on Mussolini et. al. Please extend the same courtesy. Cheers, 485:, I was unconvinced by the Harpers article and asked FM for more sources. FM has provided a variety of reliable sources. I listen to the PBS interview and have skimmed most of the sources. As editors, we are responsible for developing an article that presents all valid pov. I still have a few questions but all in all this seems vaild to me. The category reflects the content of the articles and is reasonable. 176:. We have been discussing this issue on the talk page and your viewpoint is false and does not have the consensus. In fact, your viewpoint has been blown out of the water because you haven't been able to prove that OCCM has ever claimed to be an accreditor. So, stop posting your opinions, start heeding to the facts, and submit to the consensus or else you're going to look more and more like a vandal. -- 3194:, you wrote: "Also, templates created to further a particular POV is a misuse of templates." My comments from that page: Since I created it, I can tell you that this template was not created to further a particular POV. It was created to help readers be aware of disputes, as I said above, and it parallels an already existing template that hasn't been deleted. Other editors have argued that 3683:

your block, as I recall, was overturned but you ignored the objections of other admins and reapplied it so you are following your own agenda. The same was going to happen to your second block but I asked people to leave it alone since it wasn't worth getting into a fight over. Again, please stop acting as if you are a member of a faction where loyalty to faction members trumps the rules.

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either? If just references scorecards by certain organizations. Perhaps those who track domininism find these scorecards serve their purpose in tracking dominionism, but nothing indicates that these organizations are themselves dominionist. Am I missing something on this page? Can you point me to the specifics on the page that support the specifics in your proposed text?--

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there was only mild consensus for a possible edit of that first point. It was still being discussed when you decided to rewrite almost the entire article. Taking that to mean that you can yet again force in a massive rewrite of many points and it should not be reverted is what's causing your problems there, not me or Jim, or Kenosis, or Kaseryn or anyone else.

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surprising considering your method of huge proposals. I'll be happy to continue considering and discussing each of your points as I have, but your going to have to abide by consensus and work with the present long term editors there since none of your proposed changes addresses glaring factual errors, rather matters of nuance and style.

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below shows O'Reilly prasing Letterman years earlier which was when he had a different view. I assume if you have seen the Letterman interview, you would change your mind too if someone invited you on their show and then tried to embarass you by attacking your character.But I guess you will insist on removing it if I reverted it back. --

2940:. I can find no evidence that he ever sought or established any consensus to add this new clause to the policy; it did not exist on April 17, and I absolutely do not accept that being unaware of an unannounced and non-consensual rule change that's a grand total of six weeks old constitutes any sort of failing on my part. 3867:

Coming to my talk page and disrupting it with a debate with SV, which I asked you to stop, then citing that disruption as evidence that I have a conflict of interest that precludes me taking action when you transgress isn't going to wash. I've asked you once to move on - any further comments from you will be deleted.

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the section that is meant for people that are involved in the dispute, since you have now certified that you have tried and failed to resolve the dispute. You cannot add a new section under Outside Views and add your comments there. You are a participant in the dispute and you have your own section.

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FYI, I did not respond to the completely over the top remedies because they were too ridiculous to address. Removing Jayjg from Arb comm? Too nuts to justify a reply. My purpose was educating some of the outside commenters that were saying the admins must have harsh sanctions. Based on the recent Blu

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I have lifted the block on User:Sonofzion as the allegation of sockpuppetry against him/her is false. If you were alleging that s/he was my sockpuppet you should have contacted me (indeed, that you accused the alleged sockpuppet but not the alleged sockpuppeteer is unusual). You also should have used

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Hey Felonious. Do you have any comment on why you think the newer version is a disimprovement? I'm actually quite surprised "we can write with the attitude that such-and-such is a good idea" is being defended by people given how it contradicts neutrality. I was actually anticipating an initial revert

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status is unclear. If you have not created this media yourself then there needs to be an argument why we have the right to use the media on Knowledge (see copyright tagging below). If you have not created the media yourself then it needs to be specified where it was found, i.e., in most cases link to

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SV, I want to make it clear that FM has no authority to respond to future complaints by Zeq since he is in a conflict of interest and since Zeq has shown a pattern of making specious complaints. FM's factional loyalites to Zeq and to you do not override this. I am in a conflict of interest in regards

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Slim you said it must have been an accident. I was dubious of that given "edit conflict" warnings that I expected would have occured and that most people give the accident excuse- it was only after I saw that your interlocuter said he was having the same problems and when he said that he had recieved

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You are clearly displaying a double standard. Zeq can harass me and make dubious complaints in order to persue a vendetta and you indulge him. I post a 3RR complaint hours after a warning posted on SV's page is ignored and then withdraw my complaint after I see there's been a technical glitch and you

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And given your questionable behaviour above you would be in a conflict of interest if you acted in response to Zeq's lobbying you, Felonious. Incidentally, the sockpuppet accusation you made above is wrong (Zeq just brought this to my attention)- I would like to see the IP addresses involved. I can

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these articles mentioned on arab and left wing jewish student email list here. Maybe i should just tell them that all toronto university students not allowed on wikipedia because of you and Jayjg who can't tell difference between 5 million people in this city or thousands of students who use this web

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You're confused about the instructions given on RFC pages; I have only edited one view and endorsed several, so I'm free to add a view to the RFC. Removing legitimate views from an RFC is disruptive and will only compound your problems outlined there. You also would benefit from earnestly considering

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FeloniousMonk-- You are certainly free to state your dispute with me, but you need to follow the rules that are put in place for an RfC. It says quite clearly that "Users should only edit one summary or view, other than to endorse." If you are going to contribute to the article you need to do so in

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About the "This is generally considered to be a result of poor scientific education" bit: generally considered by whom? One could equally well argue that it's the result of many Americans being more "religiously fervent" than, say, their more secular European counterparts -- and thus that they have a

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is a pretty weak source for this type of categorization. Is there something more academic? Doing this type of categorization contemporary to the situation is problematic. To overcome this, the views from all sides of the political spectrum need to be considered. Who else has written on this topic? Is

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a user page. And they don't know how to revert either. Then, I pointed out that Kecik had 27 reverts to Gio out of 29 article edits, and he made three small edits to articles that Gio wasn't editing at (after nearly four months of doing NOTHING but support and revert to Gio). Professor33 also made a

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I think that with an RfArb, evidence can be given by private e-mail, can't it? There's so much evidence of puppetry that it would take weeks to comb through all of it, but obviously, once he knows what the evidence is, he'll just know what to avoid next time. So posting evidence with diffs on an RfC

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I said I'd have no objection reblocking if he continued the same behaviour. In the last 24 hours, he hasn't made a single useful edit to article space, keeps trying to deny the sockpuppets he's been caught red-handed using, and has spent the whole time trying to continue harassing various users he's

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You changed the plain meaning of a sentence that, IMHO, provides useful elaboration of the fact that, in this chapter at least, Coulter argues that evolution has aspects of a religion, without claiming that intelligent design is a science. When I wrote that sentence, I was hoping that no judgment or

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second archiving an ongoing RFC is rather poor taste. Since the debate is ongoing I fail to see why comments in that debate should be deleted. Last, I only corrected you false statements regarding any previous discussion and I pointed out where people could find that discussion. All that was deleted

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The 3RR page seems to have undergone some significant modifications in recent months, and it's hardly a surprise that not everyone would be aware of (or accept) the current version. I suspect that some of the "3RR offenses" in question would not have been interpreted as such even a few months ago.

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You may recall this user clogging the NPOV talk about a week ago. I am considering starting an RfC and wondered if people would comment. I realize you probably haven't dealt with him at length on Mainspace pages (he only sticks to about three of them) but I thought you might agree that his behaviour

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There is no source that confirms it but O'Reilly has repeadtly claimed that he misjudged Letterman and has developed a more negative view of him politically then he had before. The reason I put it there is to clarify for the readers that O'Reilly is not a hypocrite on this issue beacause the passage

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Felonious, I think on reflection that there is a fundamental problem with that article, which Rob and JJay have identified. Whether or not the term is valid, or validly applied to these particular parties, I think on balance the best solution is to go with the category, not the list; editors on the

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felonious, you continue to intimidate, insult or ignore those who do not agree with you and don't follow your agenda in the pages you watch. I will not step back from my complaints about this article. The article is extremely POV, and the "response" section is filled with selected quotes and blatant

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Sorry Felonious, suspicion is not fact, particularly when we're dealing with a highly contentious article drawing in lots of editors. If you were dealing with an article only a handful of people were editing that would be one thing but not with this article. Anyway, the point is probably moot since

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Look, I realise that a lot of his behaviour in the past has been unacceptable, and I agree that he deserved the initial block he got. There was nothing that another week block was going to achieve, however, apart from removing any chance he might turn out to be a good editor given time. I thus told

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Hi, well thanks for clearifying the source thing, however. That leaves us with a license problem. If that Pebble Beach Concours d'Elegance tag you added is acurate (is that a template by the way? I could not find it anywhere) it describes a unfree non-commercial only type license, licenses that are

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MusicalLinguist and PinchasC, thank you for restoring the posts I inadvertently deleted. I'm having problems at the moment with an out-of-control mouse. It keeps highlighting text either in front of or after where I set my cursor, then when I start to type, it deletes everything that's highlighted,

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3RR warnings should be ignored. You lack the moral and administrative standing to be issuing them to SV. The former because you're a chronic violator of 3RR having been blocked 5 times recently for it (2 of them by me), the latter because you've been involved in a personal conflict with SV and thus

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This is not acceptable since Jayjg is in a conflict of interest. He doesn't even give you the 'evidence' but that's enough for you to act. Forget it, there's no reason for me to register. Maybe next time you won't block someone without 100% certainty, especially if its on the word of someone with a

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I wanted to drop a brief note on your talk page (one admittedly not written to you only, but nevertheless truly meant) to thank you for your vote in my Request for Adminship, which concluded this evening. Even though it was unsuccessful, it did make clear to me some areas in which I can improve my

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Hi, I am a student doing research about the Zeleny/Min Zhu controversy, and I found in some of your postings that you mentioned specific documents that could substantiate the allegations (court docs, etc...). I was wondering if you knew where I could find such documents as they would aid immensely

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Note, though, that this was added just a couple of hours ago by an anon user -- it's not article "canon". Also, the first paragraph or two in the controversies section state in no uncertain terms that there is no scientific debate about evolution -- I really don't think there's a need to restate it

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Actually, I believe the truly "fair" name by the way you're using the term would be the "Committee for the Scientific Investigation of Claims of the Paranormal and Commission for Scientific Medicine and Mental Health test". In any case, the section referring to the test is titled "Discovery Channel

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violations; it's just the more recent puppetry cases that don't have publicly-available evidence. He didn't know about userchecks, so he got caught. But now, he knows not to post from the same IP with two different accounts. He has this habit of saying (lower case) "hehe" at the end of a sentence

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I also noticed that you've deleted the word "evolutionist" from the description of the arguments. While I can appreciate your opinion that it is a POV word, it DOES link to an article on evolution which defines the word in a NPOV way. There are disagreements between creationists and the other side

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Oops! Sorry I didn't sign my comment. I returned because I noticed something more... I inserted into her quoted words because 1) it kind of disputes these guys as "scientists," and 2) though she is not claiming they are scientists in this chapter, she did use the word in this sentence. I'm pretty

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It's your method that's the problem there, Silence. I actually agree with many of your points. You shouldn't assume that no one responding to all your proposals after 36-48 hours indicates consent. There has been ongoing discussion there of the first of your proposed changes, with the result being

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at them and specifically criticize various aspects of them which you object to, rather than continuing to blindly revert them on the mistaken assumption that anything new must necessarily be worse than what's already in place. I'm fully willing to compromise on and discuss any aspect of them which

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that there is a specific problem. Thus far, there is none whatsoever. Your reverts are based on your own silence, and your silence is based on your reverts. I have requested on numerous occasions to simply discuss the matter in a civil and productive way with you, wherever you prefer, and you have

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Lastly, you have not replied to the query at the top of this topic section - why do you accuse me of bad faith when I acted after a warning and withdrew after it became clear there were no "edit conflict" messages yet you do not accuse Zeq of the same when he posted three sequential edits as three

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First of all, this topic heading is one I opened, SV came to it latterly so if anyone is "following anyone around" it's her following me. Secondly, if someone violates 3RR, was warned, and continues to block it doesn't matter who warned them they are still in violation and still blockable. Third,

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Grudge against Nomen? because a user posts NPA and Vandal tags on my user page does not signify a grudge, I would love it if this user would participate in the current discussion, however he has already stated his position is unmoving because of his political views that Bush was wrong, not because

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Noone has ever asked you not to point to the polls. I have asked you to stop interpreting them and to let them speak for themselves. However you decided that a poll that had to do with adding WOT to the infobox instead meant all those people felt the WOT was not part of Iraq, when that is not what

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Certifying a dispute is the same as endorsing a view, not the same as editing the Statement of the dispute or Response sections. Again, read the instructions. I'm well within guideline and convention to add my viewpoint, unless you want to call certifying the dispute editing, which seems like more

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FM, thank you for your supportive comment. It helped me feel much better about the atmosphere at Knowledge. We need to find a solution to the harassment coming from Knowledge Review. I don’t intend to let them win. You must understand that it gets almost unbearable at times. I don't see how SV has

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and edit warring. Any user banned by this decision who violates the ban may be briefly blocked, up to a week in the event of repeat offenses. After 5 blocks the maximum ban shall increase to one year. For further information, please see the arbitration case. On behalf of the arbitration committee,

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IMO, threatening people is far more likely to be interpreted as "intimidation" than is and edit summary which says "occasionally aggressive is not a reasonable subsitute for being polemical" (with regards to an attempt to subsitute the word "polemic" with "has on occasion been aggressive". Or, in

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involved administrators" I think. Evidence is already on the evidence page makes it clear that neither SlimVirgin or Jayjg used their admin tools in this conflict. If the logs presented by KimVanDerLinde and Zeq are to be believed, then applying this remedy to all involved administrators would be

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I've no relationship with Zeq, and only a professional one (she was the nominator in my RFA) with SV. Outside of this conversation on this page today, I've no interaction with you other than to block you, which I will not hesitate to do again should you continue to violate the project's policies.

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But I do have a choice as to whether I contribute to the RFAr or not. Since WCityMike is either confused over policy or has a personal axe to grind against SlimVirgin, and considering his irrational behavior it's becoming more apparent that it's likely the latter, I choose to not assist WCityMike

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I'm referring to this particular case. Ann wants to keep the evidence secret from Giovanni33. I should add that Giovanni was blocked before on the basis of this "secret evidence", and I don't agree with that either. If you are going to use evidence as the basis for a block, the accused should be

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I'd be interested to know exactly what you think the required time frame should be in which an administrator has a specific responsibility to review every Knowledge policy for changes: every day? every week? every three weeks? every six weeks? every three months? What's the right balance between

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Felonious, you keep posting a link to a theocracywatch site to support some text about cornell university. I can see anything about cornell university on that page. You also use it to support the claim that certain organizations are "dominionist", but the text on that page doesn't support that

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I never suggested that I would subvert the normal editing process; I only meant to elucidate my conviction of the extreme NPOV violations of the article and that I will follow through with every option, in the proper order, to rectify the situation. Any other interpretation of my statements is a

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I've reinstated the block. I found the evidence User:Sonofzion is compelling, and none of it had anything to do with Jayjg. What evidence do you have that establishes that Sonofzion wasn't you? I'd like to see it. The only conflict of interest here is you unblocking your own alleged sockpuppet.

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says about pseudoscience. In the former case the template is misapplied, in the latter it is cynically misapplied. In either case it is being misused. As a pseudoscience proponent your constant angling to disallow certain articles from being included in the category leads me to suspect it's the

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as citing references from wikisource. I'm unfamiliar with wikisource; I assume it's a wikimedia foundation website? Is it considered acceptable to use wikisource as a source in a wikipedia article, i.e. is it considered reliable? On the one hand, I think: why have a site called "wikisource"

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You have now certified that you are a participant in the dispute. You have completely made up a new section and placed it under the "Outside Views" section when the rules for RfCs clearly state that this area is meant for people that are not participants. Why are you immune from following the

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You cast aspersions on my motives in your edit summaries. You should assume good faith instead of engaging in personal attacks. BTW, you appear to be engaging in original research, by extending dominionism to any Christain religious organization that takes a position on social issues. If you

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It also doesn't speak well of your willingness to discuss and/or compromise if as soon as there is an edit dispute you start saying that you are willing to take the matter to arbitration and therefore we should compromise with you. That amounts to saying something like "You should know that I'm

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Without a usercheck (showing the same area, not the same IP), I wouldn't jump toe the conclusion that he's Deuteronomy2000. (Though I've no hesitation in saying that Deuteronomy is a sockpuppet who could be licitly blocked, having created the account specially for the purpose of making a bogus

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For continually reverting a large number of edits (almost to the point of edit warring at this point) to be justified, you need more justification than simply "lack of response to proposed changes is not consent"—by that logic, almost all edits that have ever been made to Knowledge ought to be

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3RR warnings should not be ignored FM and no one is above them, not you and not SV and you were wrong to respond to a 3RR warning with abuse just as SV was wrong to ignore a 3RR warning. Knowledge is not a place for private factions that apply the rules when it suits them, ignores them when it

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You've been told more than once that I didn't get any edit conflicts. If I had, I would have known someone else was editing at the same time. It was only after someone else said it that you believed it? Valid "excuse"? You're coming across as malicious, vindictive, and small-minded. I will not

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provides for topics to be categorized as pseudoscience as long as a significant portion of the scientific community considers it such. Your constant flogging of this dead horse is becoming disruptive and now that you are aware of the existing policy, you need to move on and find another way to

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article and has changed (twice) and deleted (once) the section I added on Christianism. I have proposed some new language which I think will solve the concerns you had and, I hope, Cberlet's concerns, but since he/she is raising other issues with the article I'd love to wrap this up before the

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on Sam Spade. Fred Bauder has rejected it for lacking a "referral from the Mediation Committee". (He's rejecting other requests for the same reason, too; it seems to be a principle of his, perhaps a new one.) The case is looking pretty likely to get accepted anyway, but if you should feel like

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What you are saying seems very non-specific. Who exactly were the sources and what exactly did they say? The sources I saw did not say that these various organizations were dominionist organizations, rather they seemed to be citing the congressional scorecards that these organizations kept,

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Again, I never discussed my blocking of the Sonofzion account with Jayjg; I came to my conclusion independently. Jayjg's comment here to me was made after I'd looked over the account and made up my mind, so I have no opinion or insight about Jayjg's participation other than to say that if he

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Dumping a laundry list 7 or 8 paragraphs long on us of what you think needs to be changed and expecting us here to sort through it in a day or two is ridiculous. One-point-at-a-time is the way it is properly done. The absence of response to all proposed changes is not consent. And it's not

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You did not use the user check page. Nor did you inform me that you were accusing me of sockpuppetry or were blocking an alleged sockpuppet of mine. As for my "paticipation" at User talk:Sonofzion that is several weeks after the fact and only after it was drawn to my attention by User:Zeq.

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Unlike Coulter, I am agnostic as to evolution vs. intelligent design. I know POV when I see it, and I work hard to keep my edits POV-free. If you think that there is a POV in the sentence as originally written, I would very much like to hear why, so I can avoid such things in the future.

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We used to comment on the fact that his suspected puppets all had redlinked names, and then the more recent ones began to make an edit to user page (first edit), to user talk page (second edit) and then sail straight into the editwarring. Most genuine new users don't even know they

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about the matters enumerated in the quotation. IMHO, it's POV only to refer to them as creationist arguments. All of the enumerated matters were advanced by evolution scientists (or whatever is an acceptable word for them) long before the c.s. guys were even born. Could you accept

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Intersting that an "innocent" man goes to such length to proove. The fact that it is a different ISP means nothing. anyone can get access to a different computer or even get more than one ISP. (it is a matter of having diffrent dialers diffrent accounts) the issue to consider

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it was obvious there had been an edit conflict/glitch, and even when three editors explained it to you, you continued to press for a block on the grounds that admins should know better than to have accidents; and at one point you appeared to threaten to block me yourself.

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reverts and did so *after* it was pointed out to him that his 3RR was invalid because the 4 alleged reverts did not occur in a 24 hour period? Is it because Zeq is a friend of your friends and deserves special consideration? If so, stop acting as if you are in a faction.

4007:". The problem here is that by this logic, 99% of all edits on Knowledge would need to be reverted, because even "mild consensus" is a rare thing for editors to take time to build up, especially for minor stylistic and grammatical edits like the ones I have been making. 535:

for indiviuals, religous groups, media organizations, not-for profits, think tanks, and lobbying groups. FM gave us "master" sources that had many more pages of sources. We need to go through them and find the best examples for each article. Each article needs to have

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Please explain how Jayjg wasn't in a conflict of interest by "interpreting" data for you on a user who had opened an RFC against him and another user he was in a content dispute with? I'm just curious what definition of conflict of interest you could possibly be

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I didn't know I was a member of a faction and if I am it's certainly has nothing to do with pseudoscience. If you recall the one time I dealt with you (an RfC) it was in an attempt to defend the place against such nonsense. You should avoid off-hand accusations.

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specifically said "For what it's worth, I looked over your copyedits and found nothing objectionable." So I've gotten a number of neutral and positive responses, and 0 specific complaints or criticisms regarding any aspect of the recent copyedits to the text of

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individual articles can debate the category on an individual basis. If there are no reputable sources ascribing the label to individual parties, then we should not either. If there are, the category can be included in the articles. The template is fine by me.

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The fact that I have never used that IP or anything close to it. The only thing you found "compelling" was Jayjg's say so so it's not legitimate to say your block had nothing to do with him, particularly since you only implemented it after he made his claim to

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Obliquely accusing me of article ownership is a facile way to discredit me, but last I checked you've been reverted a number of times by a number of different editors there in your various attempts to force your mass rewrite of the article without consensus or

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Hmmm, I did "home" and "contact us" and neither mentioned Cornel, and the pages were not signed with authors taking responsibility for their content, so it did not look like something an academic institution would do. I guess not all academic work is created

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which I assume is supposed to be Sonofzion as you also blocked that user with the same accusation, is not my IP address. If you wish to reimpose the block I will not get into a wheel war over it but I advise you to follow proper procedure in the future.

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I too have been involved greatly in the discussion that they have, and I disagree that Zer0 is harassing Nomen Nescio. Nomen has had poor tactics in getting accrossed points, and while he is looking to help, he often has not because of this. When I made

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have yet to cite a single specific problem anywhere in my recent edits to the page, and I strongly suspect, based on your correspondence thus far, that you have not taken the time to actually read most (if any) of what I actually changed to the page.

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him to cool it, and gave him a chance to correct his behaviour. I really do see no benefit in continuing this current block, so I'm going to unblock once again, but I promise you that if he continues his past conduct, I will not object to a reblock.

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In the unlikely even that you said "Yes, you're right, go ahead and block me" I would have. As you neither said that nor accepted my offer of voluntary recusal I left it for other admins to act on the report until I saw ElC's comment that there had

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Just thought you'd be amused by the quote about how science explains the complexity of life, but "The design hypothesis couldn't even begin to do that, because it raises an even bigger problem than it solves, who made the designer?" from Dawkins in

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This is the second time you have been involved in enforcing silence in an effort to keep the Undue weight section vague. Just to prove you are out-of-line I am willing to let the matter rest until yet another user requests the section be clarified.

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except maybe as fair use. They conflict with the GFDL license that state that our content may be used for commercial purposes, the educational use restriction is also not compatable with the GFDL since it limits who can use the image. The current

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Actually, I'd already done a CheckUser, because the sockpuppetry and editing pattern was so obvious. Unsurprisingly, the CheckUser evidence was consistent and strongly suggestive (though not 100% conclusive) with them being sockpuppets of HOTR.

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I've been a Knowledge administrator for well over a year, and acted exactly in accordance with the rules as they've stood as long as I've been an administrator — and I absolutely reject any notion that I had any responsibility to act otherwise.

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to FM so I have not blocked him for his 3RR violation but the same applies to FM so if Zeq makes any more complaints FM should leave it to other admins to respond to them. He does not have the moral authority to act as Zeq's hitman (or yours).

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If they're that poorly versed on current policy they have no business being admins, I'd say. As for HOTR, the fact that one of his first edits upon being unblocked was to attack the person filing the complaint and to misrepresent the situation

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Your name came up in conversation with another admin. I like to cite sources and research articles for accuracy. I'd like your opinion, please, on the article Dissident Voice , if you have the time. Thanks. Oh by the way, please respond here.

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I'm not about to get too involved, except to object to this "secret evidence" business. I understand your reasoning, but I think G33 has a right to question or refute the accusations being made against him, especially if this goes to arbcom.

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wikilawyering to me. My view is labeled just that a "view" not an outside view, all of which is supported by convention and policy. You're becoming disruptive, and I think the last place you'd want to do that is at your own user conduct RFC.

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Oh, I'm not into ignoring policy. I'm into ensuring that policy as written is actually based on legitimate consensus rather than one person's individual agenda. If you don't understand the difference, that's really not my problem at all.

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My mistake. I think "secret evidence" sets a dangerous precedent, and is contrary to wikipedias spirit of openness, trumping ML's rationale imho. But this is a tangent, so I'll drop the issue, as my original concern has been addressed.

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Your reasoning is flawed. You are assuming that any information made public at large cannot harm the community or any of the parties involved. There are a number of reasons why it might be better kept confidential. In addition to

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is for dealing with serious, current vandals, I figure it's been more than long enough to unprotect it now. Can I ask you to check your other recent protections and lift them as necessary, also to remember protections in general?

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Ooops... I thought I'd stripped that out. The problem is that I was trying to view how the final page would look with the "proposed" tag on. Inappropriate things showing up in user space annoy me too! I guess we could do with a

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Pardon me for butting in, but everything after "There is no source that confirms it" is useless. If there is no source, it is OR, rumor, hearsay, call it what you will - it is useless to the process of editing an encyclopedia.

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you find objectionable, but I'm not going to jump through hoops for weeks to get uncontroversial, simple, everyday copyedits that noone has objected to individually approved, one comma splice and broken wikilink at a time.

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You might want to think about discussing reverting to a version four days old before you do it. Plus, you might want to read the neutral point of view policy. It applies, even if you have strong feelings on a topic. Thanks,

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Sure, I agree, but citing anonymous sources looks like original research. Cite the source and quote the source, and if that source is a secondary source, prefer the primary source, unless the person who is being quoted is

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In future you should make Checkuser requests on the Checkuser page rather than ask your friend for a favour, particularly if that friend is involved in a content dispute with the people you are requesting Checkuser for.

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I would appreciate it if you didn't say that Coulter insists that intelligent design is a science, in a discussion of a chapter where she specifically doesn't do that, and where that fact is pointed out in the article.

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are unable to carry out your threat. Now drop this and move along; SV has told you to stop following her around and badgering her, and I'm not going to be further drawn in to your inability to play nicely with others.

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to make!). I find this counterproductive. If you have an issue with the edits, then simply say why and we can talk it over. Refusing to communicate except through your repeated reverts' edit summaries is not helpful.

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edit. Although I much appreciate your support of the sentence ("Returning a critical sentence to the new language") you may want to revert back to my last version, which seems to be the current consensus version at

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seems a very bad idea, and filing an RfC without diffs is also a bad idea, although there's lots of publicly-available evidence of his disruption, editwarring, tendency to say things that are untrue, and proven

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I've only just realised (from your comment on 3RR) that HotR is an admin. Weird or what. In fact I was rather doubtful that he was... till I see he has just deleted his own page. Mind you I still can't find

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I would like to try unblocking Jerry Jones. I have been in email correspondence with him and think he might work out. Mostly we just discussed the edit warring over political labels. He maintains this edit

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putting in a statement outlining the community's long history of trying to reason with SS, it could only help. I gathered from your input at the RfC that you were excruciatingly familiar with it. Best,

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Proper procedure was followed. With your extensive history of being blocked for violating policy, you'd be the last admin to be lecturing anyone on what constitutes proper procedure, but thanks anyway.

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be blocked for making more than three reverts -- it simply grants admins the authority to do so. There's nothing to prevent alternate resolutions from being tried in ambiguous situations like this.

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I'm thinking I already did. Perhaps FM considered the matter already addressed, or perhaps he is doing other things. Guessing, with less than 24 hours since your post, is hardly a useful approach.

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If you have uploaded other media, consider checking that you have specified their source and copyright tagged them, too. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "

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The "violation" involved the restoration of an "OR" tag, with no other changes to the text. I'm not certain this constitutes a 3RR violation; if it was, I suspect it was entirely accidental.

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I haven't reviewed the substance of the claims he makes, just noting that you were involved in a (rather stupid) edit war on the requests for Arbitration page. You should be better than that.

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To your first point: I think some of those situations may have been "ambiguous" as well. In any case, I have absolutely no doubt that HotR did not consciously violate 3RR in this instance.

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considers you a disruptive contributor he can't be too wrong based on my experience. So please find a more productive way to contribute to the project and stop the time-wasting disruption.

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By the way, I'm not convinced that Deuteronomy2000 is Giovanni. I don't think either of them has any justification for being indignant, though, because Deuteronomy is obviously a puppet of

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The only exemptions from 3RR violations are for vandalism, potentially libellous material, and user pages. HOTR's edit warring over the tag fits none of the above; it's clearly a 3RR vio.

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Knowledge's policies are not a buffet where one gets to choose what fits the occasion and leave the rest. Those who ignore them do so at their risk with incidents like this as a result.

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After I changed my remedy to include Kim van der Linde, she filed an injunction to limit remedies in the case and then went on a wikibreak. Seems nobody likes my mild little remedy! --

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and sometimes I don't notice. I'll try to find a way to get it fixed. It's something in my preferences probably but I can't figure it out. Sorry for vandalizing your talk page, FM. :-)

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my first block) and it's nothing earth shattering, but ML's rationale is perfectly reasonable. This isn't a criminal court, we get to use common sense. My second block was simply a

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I've filed. Given our disagreement that night, I figured it would be fair to alert you to give you an opportunity to vote on this, even if indeed your vote is an oppose. Thanks. —

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The only legitimate concern about my remedy is the credibility it might give to sanctioning Jayjg and SV. I don't think that is a valid concern but see why you might think it is.

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I know and admit that I have reverted the article more than 3 times. However I believe that there is a bit of sockpuppetry involved here that is trying to get me into trouble.

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article. I strongly object to the unbalanced intro to the article. Specifically, the lack of any perspective other than that of the natural sciences in the first paragraph. —

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I have no idea what personal attacks you're yammering about. The fact is that all of the following groups are all identified as connected to the dominionism movement by both

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FM, I see you removed my reply, but it wasn't entirely a cross-post. The nonduplicated part said: I've expressed similar NPOV concerns about loose, fuzzy categories on

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All of the above sources are good with the slightly exception of the last one. Religioustolerance.org has a strong leftwards slant and seems to do little fact-checking.

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HOTR lacks the standing, both moral and administrative, to be issuing any warnings to you on this matter. I encourage you to ignore him and not respond to his threats.

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if used in the proper context, but we can not leave them tagged as "free use for any purpose" if they are in fact restricted to non-commercial educational use only. --

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I apologize for the length of this comment. Since our recent exchanges have been rather terse, I felt a need to explain in detail why your recent repeated reverts at

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one, from his IP, where he says that "there is no basis to supress this section other than the fact the Christians don't like to talk about their origins. hehe", or

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with his baseless disruption of the project. He's caused enough problems and it's looking more and more like the nogoodniks at Knowledge Review are behind this:

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With your POV campaigning backed with threats like this spammed across numerous user talk pages, you're likely to end up in arbitration sooner than you expect.

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Letting accused sockpuppeteers decide on whether to unblock their sockpuppets is a clear conflict of interest. Your participating in the ongoing discussion at

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when creating or filling categories. Unless it is self-evident and uncontroversial that something belongs in a category, it should not be put into a category

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Appearance". In the interest of making the reference accessible to the mediators, and in the interest of brevity, I chose "Discovery Channel-aired test". -

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You see, the fact that there is a lack of an elaborate consensus-determining straw poll, or something of the sort, approving my copyedits is insufficient,

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staying current on policy changes while not simultaneously spending so much time scanning for policy changes that you never have any time left to actually

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To your second point: See Bearcat's comments below. I'm certain there are other admins who would be surprised by the current status of the 3RR policy.

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Hi, probably just a misunderstanding, but please don't just revert all my hard copyediting work. If you'd like to re-add the school para below, go ahead:

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an administrator? I frankly couldn't give a flying fig what you think of any individual Knowledge editor as a person, but against my better judgement I

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Center for Religion, Ethics and Social Policy is an unimpeachable academic source, and they say the same thing as Hedges did in Harper's and then some:

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tag is clearly not right, so please sort out this and any other images from this source or with simmilar restrictions you may have uploaded ASAP. They

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no edit conflict warnings that I agreed this was a valid excuse. In any case, you ignored my earlier warnings - did not respond or acknowledge them.

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respond to any "warnings" from you, so you can save yourself the trouble of posting them. Now stop talking to me and stop talking about me, please.

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Less than 2 weeks has passed and there is another question -- Does this make you wonder if maybe you can't enforce silence on this issue after all?

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I think FeloniusMonk needs to go through them and to get specific. The best way to get non-academic work to be encyclopedic, is the both cite and

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sure that she uses the term "creation scientists" as a generic name for these dudes, as do many other people, even those who disagree with them.

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Either you're splitting hairs and wikilawyering or you're clueless; either way your disruptive actions make it a distinction without a difference.

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Considering how many have that policy on their watchlists, the fact that the policy stood unchallenged for months shows that there is consensus.

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harder time reconciling evolution with their religious beliefs than other well-educated people (despite similar quality of science instruction).

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Arbustoo is deleting comments and questions from his talk page without replying. Please say something to him about this. It isn't very nice. --

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notice the strange characters in his username. Last night made the same changes to the article, then opened a RFC on me after I reverted him.

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10:55, April 15, 2006 (hist) (diff) Political Research Associates (rm intentionally misplaced dominionism template. see: WP:POINT Silverback)

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Please don't see this as opposition. I'm not an ID supporter nor do I have a problem with your edit. I'm just curious about wikisource.

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guidelines and rules that are set up? I would appreciate it if you would not move this discussion to my talk page. This is a warning.

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except to provide known reliable sourcing for wikipedia? On the other, I think: wikisource allows anyone to edit; doesn't that mean it

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I just find it bizarre that if you were so sure you would ban a sockpuppet without telling the person you alleged was the sockpuppeteer.

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Though the chapter is about evolution theory as a "religion," not about intelligent design as a "science," it ends by comparing the two:

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rv all recent edits by Silence. There was only mild consensus for one single change, lack of response to proposed changes is not consent

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bias. Or maybe youll just block the millions of people who live here and end up blocking a few hundred wikipedia editors in the process.

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You reverted some of my changes to the Kent Hovind article as a "whitewash." I'm confused by this. Please discuss your changes on the

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has also been understanding and supportive, after we worked out the misunderstanding which led to the reverts of my copyedits earlier.

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10:56, April 15, 2006 (hist) (diff) Political Research Associates (m intentionally misplaced dominionism cat. see: WP:POINT Silverback)

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a few thousand people use the internet cafe I'm in every week. Many of them israeli and arab students. Block all of us why don't you?

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Ah, I've just noted the IP address above, 216.249.5.184 - that is not even my ISP - not even close. There is no basis for a block.

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Nomen, the fact someone reverted does not mean there is no consensus. Neither he, nor you has stated any objection to the consensus

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If the media also doesn't have a copyright tag then one should be added. If you created/took the picture, audio, or video then the

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Hi FM. I saw that you removed the template from this page. I and other editors had raised NPOV concerns about the reflected in

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is open and honest about these issues. What does he say? You may be correct. Could you point me to better sources to back it up.

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I've pulled your block of Giovanni33 agreed to stay away from chrisitiaity articles which appear to be the cause of the problem.

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Homey, understand that with every sniping, bickering comment you post, you undermine yourself, not the person you're attacking.

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the comments of Hipocrite regarding your wikilaywering which seems to extend now to your interpretation of RFC page guidelines.

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the source, preferably a person by name, unless it is clear that a document represents the official policy of an organization.--

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reverted, since most edits have never been explicitly responded to. The key distinction is that there needs to be some sort of

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Positive identification through IP address is easily skirted. I didn't need to use checkuser; viewing the edit history of the

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It's rather dangerous for you (or rather for Knowledge) that you confuse having your actions questioned with "disruption".

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the checkuser request page rather than ask Jayjg who is in a conflict of interest. As it happens, the user's ip address of

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Thanks for stepping in. I've let temptation to continue a pointless argument get the best of me more than I like lately. —

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one from MikaM. After I was stupid enough to draw attention to it, no puppet ever said "hehe" again, though he still does.

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I didn't unblock "my friend" -- another admin unblocked him, and my only involvement was to undo a glitch in the system.

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and associated articles. The opposing editors (Duncharris, Guettarda, Jim62sch, and FeloniousMonk) are warned concerning

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For the record, I am a biologist, and am not trying to insinuate creationist POV into the article or anything like that.

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he has said that he is going to stop the behaviour you are complaining about as well. If not I'll just block him again.

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applied; I thought such templates were intended to attract discussion. Can you explain where I was mistaken? cheers,

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No, please read the archives on this issue. We discussed this at great length and settled on concept as a compromise.

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aren't careful, dominionism will just end up as name calling and become as watered down and meaningless as fascism.--

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Please stop using this editors page. The discussion should remain on the article's page. Thank you for4 cooperating.

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accordingly? It will be confusing debating whether the article should be undeleted or not if it already is. Thanks!

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really stubborn. You might as well give in now and save yourselves the trouble." This is not a productive attitude.

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Thanks for clarifying that you're point is not about me being insane? ; - ) Or what I write is insane, or whatever.

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Evidence submitted by email to the arbcom is also shared with the other party to allow them to defend themselves.

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shows that you solicited his unblocking from Bearcat, then you did it yourself when Bearcat was unable to do it:

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doesn't speak highly of him. I'd have a bit more sympathy for his plight here were he not his own worst enemy.

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I'm sorry to report that you are indeed sane. Please report immediately to Knowledge Ward B for reprogramming.

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odds are the user you banned is either editing anonymously, has opened a new account or has left the project.

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POV would be conveyed about either. That's why the quotes around the two words. The sentence formerly read:

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In cases where your action may be controversial reviewing the policy before taking action is always prudent.

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While portraying evolution theory as a "religion," Coulter insists intelligent design is legitimate science:

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I agree with both your analysis and reasoning - and yes, Arbcom has been known to take evidence via email.

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If the answer for #1 is true (which means we have opportunity) and #2 (possibility) we should further at:

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Your comments on AN/I just gave me my new catchphrase: "WP:AGF is not a suicide pact". I love it, thanks!

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generalizations. I will take this all the way to arbitration, if necessary, and I suggest you compromise.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Knowledge:Recently_created_admins&oldid=5081379#User:AndyL

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Thanks for your opinion, but I prefer those of those who haven't had an ax to grind with me in the past.

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No problem. I'll sort through it and get it fixed. It's not a template, just code, but I followed the

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in my research. Thank you! (and let me know if you have any questions/want details about my research-

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Sorry, but I'm neither an interested party nor am I central to your problem. I decline to participate.

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to anything specific about my copyedits in the last 48 hours since you first reverted my edit. But I

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Thank you for helping out but this seriously misrepresents the facts. First no consensus was reached,

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kind of curious what you figure to be the quantifiable benchmarks that an administrator has to pass.

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ignored or evaded all of my attempts to open up a dialogue over the copyedits I've been making (or

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and then take a look at each editor that previously edited this article. Click on the user name.

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lived with it as long as she has. Hopefully after a rest she will be back. Take care, thank you

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is nearly 100 items, most of them seem to have been forgotten by the protecting admin. Thanks. -

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I appreciate and agree with your reason for proposing this remedy. It should have been worded "

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be considered a RS, for the same reason that another wikipedia article is not considered a RS?

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There is no requirement for the reverts to be related: any four reverts on the same page count.

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Your "NPOV concerns" are caused by you and Hgilbert either not understanding or ignoring what

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I wouldn't be at all surprised if you choose to ignore that part of the policy, or all of it.

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I'll note that AGF is also official policy. In any event, 3RR does not mandate that editors

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edit, where he's pretending not to know BelindaGong (later acknowledged to be his wife), or

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is your 4th in 24 hours. Please self-revert it, or you will be reported for violating 3rr.

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Spin was you claiming I followed SV here when I posted first and she posted in reply to me.

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which provides a nice documentary and lots of quotes on ID up to the Kitzmiller verdict. ..

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template, for a "dummy proposed policy, guideline or process" for such purposes. Or even a

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Hmmm, did it ever occur to you to look beyond the page, like clicking the "About us" link?

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One further development: I have nommed the article that got Aquirata kicking for deletion

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This is a different meaning than what I intended, and it puts words in Coulter's mouth.

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that the IP edits only happen when he gets "unintentionally" logged off. I don't think

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Hi FM -- I really like and appreciate your work on ID-related articles. In the recent

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the website where it was taken from, and the terms of use for content from that page.

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Well, I don't know how much this is accomplishing. I wondered if you had noticed this

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Of course it would be you there to try to remind me. Very kindly of you, thank you.

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I guess you don't want to address your reasons for reverting the O'Reilly passage--

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If no one seems to like what you're doing, you're probably doing something right.

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If you want to discuss my changes, I recommend that you actually take the time to

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this categorization supported by moderate conservative-leaning thinkers? What has

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22:14, 27 June 2006 (UTC) Because he used to be AndyL? can;t find that either...

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Since you have decided to undelete and list for AFD, would you mind closing the

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Sonofzion claimed on his/her talk page that you were acting on Jayjg's claims.

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piping to Scientific consensus, which is what mainstream scientific views are

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Hey Felonious - it looks like something ugly happened with your last edit to

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doesn't, and whose principal rule is to defend other members of the faction.

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The Rise of the Religious Right in the Republican Party at TheocracyWatch.org

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Shh! Caught being sane and right likely to jeopardizes my membership in the

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This case has closed and the final decision is published at the link above.

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I have brought a request for arbitration naming you as an interested party.

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I believe the 3RR block may have been improperly applied in this instance.

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Thanks for the disabling the category on my user sub-page. Kind regards,

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Per the page history on the 3RR policy page, that criterion was added on

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I am referring to these two personal attacks here in your edit summaries:

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FM, I appreciate your recent work in further cleaning up the article on

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He was never blocked based on secret evidence. I've seen the evidence (

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You have reverted a number of my recent changes with the edit summary "

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The user who reported me still has not made any further edits, strange?

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WSWS: New York Times columnist David Brooks proposes the 'good crusade'

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but was hoping people would offer a comment at the same time. Cheers,

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to add this to the policy, I am not obliged to accept it as binding.

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Christian Science Monitor For evangelicals, a bid to 'reclaim America'

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is a moderate, widely respected, responsible and critical publication.

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Knowledge:Administrators'_noticeboard#Jerry_Jones_and_CongressRecords

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Knowledge:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#User:Giovanni33 again

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block and didn't require anything else, and that was its only basis.

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Yep, FM is right - I only see 3 reverts that count towards the 3rr.

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which you may want to endorse, improve, or shoot down in flames. :-O

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Just making sure everyone puts their cards on the table, that's all.

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Hi FeloniousMonk. I replied to your statement with another question

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I am unblocking Jerry Jones so he can participate in the dialog at

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that he intended to log off. Anyway, in my view, there are so many

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No one is saying 3RR warnings should be ignored. I'm saying saying

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for "this is a first draft for what may later be proposed as a..."

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Soldiers of Christ II published May 2005 in Harpers By Chris Hedges

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The user who reported the 3RR violation has one edit to his name?

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http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/AndyL.09

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Maybe these organizations belong in this category. Maybe not. Is

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Trolls are not the same Wikipedians who give us food for thought

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from reliable sources before the dominionism category is added.

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Use Google site search, much better than the Knowledge search.

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Also, HOTR block log shows he has been a chronic 3RR offender,

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was just a error and did not intend to remove it permanently.

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one, when edit warring with Timothy on my talk page. Then see

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And furthermore, until I see some indication that there was a

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JJay seems to have a new concern over copyright violations at

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Talk:Evolution#Add a "google video" link of evolution science

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puppets, that we don't need to accuse him of doubtful ones.

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The Washington Times Left aims to smite 'theocracy' movement

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looks to me to be Gastroturfing. I've issued a warning.

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Categories appear without annotations, so be careful of

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Fox News Channel controversies and allegations of bias

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Fox News Channel controversies and allegations of bias

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for the full list of copyright tags that you can use.

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Fox News Channel controversies and allegations of bias

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I suggest you lift the block on the user in question.

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since apparently the previous debates were off-limits.

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Please put your comments on my RfC in the proper place

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You are attacking me instead of assuming good faith.--

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Hi there. You protected this about 10 days ago. Since

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Mmmm. Keeping grudges isn't very becoming, either.

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written? Do the groups themselves classify this way?

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Cool, but then there's no need for it to be secret.

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isn't always the best way to respond to a newbie. --

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Not sure what to do next. 4122:Knowledge:Requests for arbitration/Blu Aardvark 538:obvious relevant content related to dominionism 4653:I think the only solution here is going to be 2241:Seeking Editor Review Commentary (If You Like) 2002:Would you mind checking out the discussion at 2389:I nomimated that attack page for deletion at 1258:Rather than just throwing accusations about. 636:Knowledge:Articles for deletion/CreationWiki 430:Recent NPR coverage of Christian Dominionism 358:regarded as an unbiased author? I think the 3947:I only count 3; reverting simple vandalism 3190:on deletion of a template that I placed on 3136:your removal of the unbalanced template at 3950:never counts as a revert toward 3RR vios. 3422:Is there previous knowledge of wikipedia ? 837:Hiya, FM. I don't know if you've seen the 420:Other fair articles on the topic include: 4967:. Hope you don't mind replying. Thanks! 1242:Question about Zeleny/Min Zhu controversy 169:Your wrong assertions that defy consensus 4480:looks like Korny O'Near took care of it 4198:tag can be used to release it under the 4330:Hello : - ) Look for an email from me. 4216:Knowledge:Image copyright tags#Fair_use 3818:I hear you have to have the last word. 3425:was there a motive for the sockppupet ? 3408:Is it from the same geographical Area ? 3095:provides a handy link to BBC Horizon's 2438:Thanks for clearing out mine as well -- 2291:Knowledge:Requests for comment/Aquirata 1326:Editors to the page apart from me are: 14: 5349:. I'll be more careful in the future. 4031:, some flaw or error or fault, in the 3496:positively contribute to the project. 751:The Root of All Evil?#The God Delusion 173:You need to stop reverting this entry 96:other words: pot, to kettle "black". 5032:I've made a recommendation regarding 4263:use only may not be used on Knowledge 3885:Knowledge:Requests for adminship/HOTR 3036:Thanks, that answers my question. :) 2954:I will not discuss this any further. 2010:seems to have larger issues with the 272:Please refrain from personal attacks. 4439:Resent email. Looking for response. 4423:Look for email for more discussion. 2249:(that you voted on), I have created 864:Have you read the talk page at all? 4214:or one of the other tags listed at 3552:No, Homey, you reported me for 3RR 3472:. 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