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would warrant a block, but not simply creating the account. WP:Username does not say that the accounts have to be blocked just for saying "bot", thats only for when it is unclear whether or not it is actually a bot account. Given the context we have here, there is not that uncertainty. Also, by keeping his edit rate down, it is no different than any other low edit rate AWB use for minor edits.
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When your bot is regeistered, let me know, point out the link that shows it and I'll unblock. In the meantime, please make it clear that this will be a bot account. A note that this is a userpage up there means its a person, not a bot so you might want to remove that. Also, you need to make it clear
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In perusing your talk page, I'm not the only person to voice concerns with the way you interact with other Wikipedians. (I believe I saw the term "bully", which fits.) Did it ever occur to you to try and change your behavior? Or are we all always wrong, about your behavior as well as the things you
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And don't go taking credit for catching me "just in time". It was an honest mistake and not one I've made in the past. I was tired and didn't see the difference, I usually have a much sharper eye (for instance, did you know that the first typo in the last Harry Potter book occurs on page 10?), and
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Given the frequency with which diacritics occur in French, perhaps the category shouldn't be added by the template at all. The template can very easily be edited so that it doesn't automatically include the article in the category; that's something that needs to be discussed on the template's talk
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An initial block from the NU log would have been justified, however he did give a response that should have been reason enough to unblock. Chidom's talk page should have clearfied things. The user was already blocked for editing to fast, then for making a separate account for that and then told to
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VOA, this account was not marked as a bot at all when I first blocked it so back off. It wasn't clear at the time if it was a bot, and it wasn't indicated ANYWHERE that it was a bot. I'm just being cautious and certainly was polite and said it would be unblocked. No one was smacked in the face for
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Geesh, this user was trying to help and keeps getting smacked in the face for it. Many bot accounts were created before formal approval as they were clearly indicated as bots and end up on request for approvals after a bit of testing. Running major or controversial bot actions on an unapproved bot
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If you hate bots so much and would like to do all these clean-up and maintenance edits by hand instead of having those of us with bots do it, be my guest. This is a thankless task and it's quite disheartening to have someone making such an angry post over what turns out to be a fairly minor error
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As for the "freebie"; whether it "clutters up the watchlists" or not, the change needs to be made. The bots are programmed to look for things like that; again, I was working on more than 200 pages at the time. (The capitalization, it turns out, can make a difference in whether or not the page is
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Another thing I don't like about bots is your "freebie" change. If all you are going to do is make a change that makes absolutely no difference whatsoever, don't make it. Don't clutter up the watchlists and so forth needlessly. Capitalize the initial C in category if you are making some other
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We have a difference of opinion on what is a "trivial" edit. Since capitalization mattered in naming categories until I brought it up on the AWB discussion page and it was fixed, it wasn't "trivial". As I have said, if you have such an objection to bots, you have a couple of options: do all the
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willing to be the whipping boy for every problem you find with bots in general, nor to be treated with scorn and disdain. I'm attempting to make positive contributions here. Keep that in mind before you start chastising me so harshly for mistakes made in the process of those attempts.
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Excuse me for not knowing why the category was added to the page in two different ways. My edits were due to my knowing that most people don't understand that a template can and does add an article to a category. I thought that was the case here; I was mistaken and will correct my
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in your future communications. The first two paragraphs above were quite different than the ones that followed. I didn't create the "nasty template", my bot wasn't running "amok", and suddenly your request to "please go back" turned into demanding that I "Go back and fix
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found when searching the category. I know, because I ran across it. So it's a necessary change.) The "freebie" was to add the proper sort index to an article in the category, which is what you whined about to start with. You can't have it both ways.
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has marked them as a bot, they can edit at a much faster pace. Bots doing non-urgent tasks should edit approximately once every ten seconds, while bots who would benefit from faster editing may edit approximately once every every four
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located above the edit window. This will automatically insert a signature with your name and the time you posted the comment. This information is useful because other editors will be able to tell who said what, and when. Thank you!
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Just so there is no misunderstanding, I do not appreciate your attitude and the way that you have communicated with me. Clean up your own mess in terms of how you communicate with others and bring it in line with
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If that was indeed the first category in which you had done that, then it looks like I caught you just in time. That was a pretty significant amount you had to redo there. At least now you know for the
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based on the article's name. As you can see from the sort key quoted above, the manual addition of this category to the article in addition to the template addition of the category was done to add the
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to Knowledge articles. If the bot reverted a legitimate edit, please accept my humble creator's apologies – if you bring it to the attention of the bot's owner, we may be able to improve its behavior.
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to Knowledge articles. If the bot reverted a legitimate edit, please accept my humble creator's apologies – if you bring it to the attention of the bot's owner, we may be able to improve its behavior.
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to Knowledge articles. If the bot reverted a legitimate edit, please accept my humble creator's apologies – if you bring it to the attention of the bot's owner, we may be able to improve its behavior.
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to Knowledge articles. If the bot reverted a legitimate edit, please accept my humble creator's apologies – if you bring it to the attention of the bot's owner, we may be able to improve its behavior.
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to the "Ready for deletion" section instead of the "Empty then delete" subsection. Easy mistake to make; the headings don't appear to be all that different between sections and subsections...
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As a result of discussion on the village pump and mailing list, bots are now allowed to edit up to 15 times per minute. The following is the new text regarding bot edit rates from
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process. We appreciate your contributions, but the nominator doesn't believe it satisfies Knowledge's criteria for inclusion, and has explained why in the nomination (also see
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My apologies; I hope reverting the move wasn't a huge hassle. I should have been more careful, and will definitely be more attentive in the future. I've also asked that
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Until new bots are accepted they should wait 30-60 seconds between edits, so as to not clog the recent changes list and user watchlists. After being accepted and a
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during the discussion, but do not remove the "Articles for Deletion" template (the box at the top of the article), this will not end the deletion debate.
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be deleted; one never knows when that article title may actually be needed, and it bears no relation to the show at all. Again, my apologies, and thanks.
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I'll do the right thing here, but I have to say that your communication really makes me "disinclined to acquiesce to your request". (If you didn't see
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Will you please go back and add that back in properly. That wasn't the deleted category; the earlier bot had properly renamed by the earlier bot.
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anything and I resent your interpretation. Take a look at the userpage when I blocked. It didn't even indicate who the account belonged to.
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adding or removing some white space, moving a stub tag, converting some HTML to Unicode, removing underscores from links (unless they are
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the reason for the addition would have made perfect sense if I had noticed the lack of diacriticals in the indexing on the additions.
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Gee, thanks for the abject apology for the way you spoke to me earlier. I guess you don't "do" apology very well (if at all), do you?
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I obviously didn't notice that the sorting key was different than the article title; had I done so, I wouldn't have made the changes.
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article; it wasn't there before and I didn't remove it (it was another of those that my bot made a clean-up correction, it changed "
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If I may chime in, I'm not upset about all this, so no harm, no foul. This stuff happens, I think everyone involved has acted in
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with this edit summary: "Delete renamed category that was individually added to article instead of via the template using AWB"
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the category was never removed because it wasn't there to begin with; the bot made a cleanup edit under the same edit summary
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No problem — it was easily fixed, and my comment above sounds grumpier than it ought to. It's not really a big deal. —
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with four tildes (~~~~). You may also edit the article during the discussion to improve it but should not remove the
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where you could voice concerns or suggest changes. But it's easier to pick on the individual user, I would think.
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both on the talk and the userpage who the owner of the bot account is and specify that this is not just a user.
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In sum, five erroneous edits is not a bot running "amok", and it's not all that much of a "mess", either.
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The word bot is not allowed in usernames unless the entity is a registered bot. Please change your name.
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by typing four tildes ( ~~~~ ) at the end of your comment. You may also click on the signature button
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extension. This program is no longer actively maintained in favor of its much more powerful successor
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I reverted the deletion on nine of the categories yesterday; immediately after my earlier deletions
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template from the top of the article; such removal will not end the deletion debate. Thank you.
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to your watchlist. Future messages which affect bot owners will be posted there. Thank you. --
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maintenance-related revisions yourself; or talk about what's wrong and suggest changes at
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it was appropriate to remove the category, as it didn't have (nor need) a sort key; or
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I've just finished making the corrections. Let me clue you in on how "amok" this was:
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Thanks for the heads up; I wouldn't have known about this otherwise. Have good days.
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That reason is the fact that these nasty templates which add categories to articles
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articles today (it would have been five without your help on the one article) and
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Oops, yes; thanks for spotting. Guess I'm starting to wane... Best wishes,
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there is a damn good reason why that category was individually added
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Also, to eliminate the need to spam the bot talk pages, please add
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Yesterday, I made the deletion to nine articles and ten categories.
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Finally, I would really appreciate it if you would try to be more
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so that the article will be properly sorted within that category.
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Please take a few moments and fill in the data for your bot on
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Knowledge:Articles for deletion/List of Batman love interests
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slam us for? It would seem that you're the Wikipedian who is
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to the article, in addition to being added by a template.
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For the other five articles, one of two things was true:
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change, not just to change that as the only change.
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good faith
Chidom

06:20, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
Category:Evolutionary Philosophy
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21:34, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

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