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wholeheartedly believe that there is mergeable content from what I added last night and in any event, it is a case where there was not decisive calls for deletion and really, an undelete and redirect to the obvious location would be a fair and reasonable compromise solution as much as I'd prefer it be kept or changed to no consensus. As I am a strong inclusionist who has history with a half dozen or so editors, sadly, any DRV I participate in is like clockwork going to be flooded by those accounts just reflexively calling to endorse as some have even admitted on and off wiki to go counter to me regardless of the actual merits of my argument. As you can tell from the AfD, the DRV is likely to just needlessly escalate tensions and what have you and I urge you to make the case moot, by just undeleting and redirecting as a fair and reasonable middle ground. The deletion people are satisfied by not having an individual article, the keepers are satisfied by at least having their edits still visible and having a place from which to draw possibly useful and mergeable content. Please help resolve this. Thank you. Sincerely, --

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only to find out i cant even do that now. i didnt do anything wrong at all. i am a criminal justice student and i will not tolerate this kind of things on me when i didnt do anything wrong here. i was looking up things on informants and came across a posting talking about a females between the legs and a males between the legs and very dirty and nasty and obscene and vulgar language. but it seems to me that kind of language can go on but i get blocked saying im vandalizing and that i have another account here which this is the first time i signed up for an account here on wikipedia. ive come before browsing for my research but this is the only time i got an account here. but i will take my research somewhere else since Yandman thinks i am vandalizing which nothing was said to me at all i never got a message from him before being blocked indefinitely for no reason at all except by that persons terms. i will come on for the next couple of days and check to see if anything is done but if not i will take my research elsewhere. i was falsely accused of having a vandalism account.

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In any event, the content was merged by myself and others back around August (at the time I was regretfully ignorant of having to say "merged from" in the edit summaries; but the various edits that I and others made to make the unit section in the article and some was merged to the reception section of the main article, too) and I believe some content was also merged earlier. If you would be willing to undelete and redirect and just leave a brief note in the AfD explaing as much, i.e. in effect it being a merge and redirect (even if it's a protected redirect), I would greatly appreciate it. I truly do believe that the article does have additional potential and perhaps it would be helpful undeleting its talk page as well to discuss the other sources I hadn't yet added. Thanks! Sincerely, --

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search term, so don't just redlink it. We don't make inferences opposite of what people outright write. Who is going to type "List of...", well, I do that all the time here and I reckon the thousands of people who create, work on, and come here specifically for lists do the same. If you are okay with userfying it or posting the content on the talk page, then it would actually be much simpler to just undelete it and redirect in mainspace, which no one will realistically have a problem with, especially since deletion was the minority opinion in both AfDs. Best, --

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the decision, had nothing to do with the state of the article, but rather its goals. I didn't redirect, because I can't imagine people typing it in as a search term, and seeing as the main article already had a pretty good section on units, I didn't think people would want to merge much. I can always undelete and redirect if you're that worried about the GFDL, but to be honest, I can't see any blatant copy-pastes from one article to the other that would necessitate a GFDL history. Do you know when this copy was done?

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did not want his identity to be known he would not have used that name. Perhaps others have different views, and I would be open to amending my own. For example, we could do an RfC about this, perhaps. If the community felt it was felt inappropriate to post that link then I would remove all instances where I have posted it and apologise. For now (sorry to use yandman's talk page like this!) you may consider contributing to the discussion about the material you inserted, which is ongoing

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string of IP editors chip in with comments such as "This organization promotes revolutionary scientific ideas and works towards building a better future for humanity" does not mean the arguments weigh towards keeping. It is interesting that you omitted my most recent AfD close, which was a keep. Next time, please keep the accusations to yourself. Thankyou.

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comparison in the closing statement to similar articles being deleted is not really fair, because this article contained out of universe information on innovations, history, and reception that is absent from similar lists and this makes it more of a contrast to those lists than a comparison. But most importantly the content was previously merged to

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I'm not sure it would be worth it. By the way, to use the hangon template, don't wrap it with "code" tags (they're used for giving code examples in articles, eg. a C++ program example in the article). Just write "{ { h a n g o n } }" (without the spaces). Again, I apologise, and wish you luck with the article.

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Were I to merge anything from a userspace article, I would still have to leave the history from which I merged from public, which means keeping it in my userspace indefinitely. Thus, I think it would be more simple for all of us to just undelete the main space article and redirect after undeletion.

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There is no other way to read "redirect" or "merge" than as "redirect" or "merge." If those editors wanted it deleted, they would say "delete." Otherwise, they are saying some of the content is salvageable, so keep the edit history available from which we can add that content. Or it's a legitimate

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Hi Midnight, thanks for being polite about this. It's not always easy keeping a cool head. Actually, you did breach 3RR (see my reply on the 3RR board), but that's not the point. Discussions need to take place on the talk pages, so that others can weigh in and consensus can be reached, rather than in

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Hmmm, I must say this source is far more useful than those that were proposed at the time of the AfD. I'm worried the blog itself is a bit too "specialised" to be taken as a major source (it's hardly the guardian). The guys who founded the site seem pretty important, and so does the guy who wrote the

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changes these past 2 days. The issue here is more of an english language one, in my opinion: he seems to think that "controversial" is a criticism, and not a neutral statement. Don't worry, sometimes small things here take months to change, but there's no need to rush. Cheers, 17:13, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

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I don't have any proof either way, which is entirely my point. A newspaper and an online shop list his place of birth as Malaga, but his own webiste doesn't... you can be sure he would trumpet it loudly from the rooftops if it was! "native of Andalucia" is (deliberately?) vague, his publicity used to

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The discussion closed as a "keep", I believe the result was a "merge and redirect". Two of the "keepers" did not state reasons ("CRAZY`(lN)`SANE" and "Peregrine Fisher") and the other two keepers ("Jclemens" and "Dream Focus") did not reply to the rebuttals to their !votes. Alternatively none of the

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Hi. I think there was a broad consensus to delete (especially if you count the redirects, merges). The precedents set as well as the various points put forward in favour of deletion (especially WP:GAMECRUFT #6 "Lists of gameplay items, weapons, or concepts.") were more convincing. The arguments, and

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We may figure out some way of having community feedback on whether posting this link about Bobby fletcher is legitimate critique. To be noted, he has chosen to use the same name that he is well known for in editing wikipedia, so it does not seem inappropriate in that light. My thinking is that if he

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and The Chieftains, etc. Most recording artists do not produce their own albums. As a matter of fact, he has produced more albums than many others with . I'm really surprised to find that no consideration of my length of time as an editor and that I have never had an article speedy deleted before,

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I don't agree with you as to the "position" of redirect/merge. For me, those are "deletes". The main point is that they don't think the article needs to be there. The rest is relatively secondary. For a start, who is going to type in "List of units in the Age of Mythology series" instead of "Age of

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If you count the redirects and merges, those are calls not for it to be deleted, but to redirect or merge which is in between keeping and deleting. The video game guidelines call for exceptions and they are a guideline. The policy of WPPRESERVE trumps that by calling for preservation of content.

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I totally agree that consensus is a two way street. There has been good discussion about both the controversial thing and also the xiejiao thing, on the Falun Gong talk page. It's ongoing. I would invite you to participate. I noticed that you reverted, but did not explain your decision or engage in

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I dont know why i was blocked but i came on to look up stuff for my school and i seen a post that was very nasty as my children were around but i shut the window down before they could see that kind of posting and i said something about it and i came back today to do some research on my next paper

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Ah, I see what you mean. I forgot about the specific meaning of "produced" in the musical world. Apologies. Feel free to recreate the article (a good idea would be to write a bit of content in your userspace, and then copy it across). I can undelete the original, but there was no content there, so

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Well, you got my attention... The problem is that this is more of a content dispute than an obvious troll or COI campaigner, so I can hardly block him for having a certain POV. I think it's unfair to say he's editing in bad faith: he's taking into account our comments: look at the talk and article

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I reviewed your vast experience and wanted to contact you about helping to resolve a dispute. I'm being teamed up against by a group of self-avowed libertarians. I don't care that they are libertarians (or if you are) except for the fact they are using their ideology to skew the Koch Industries

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Hi I just came across an posted article on 'Goans in Field Hockey'. My name was listed as a former Canadian Field Hockey player, but the article appears to be deleted. I am interested in getting a copy of the article that was deleted........and yes, I did play for Canada. I am unfamiliar with the

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wikipedia page, you mentioned that your decision may be overturned if a legitimate newspaper printed a story about Last Call. After not too much searching, I discovered that the New York Times actually ran a story announcing the results of the 2002 ICCA competitions, where Last Call placed second

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unblock request. He seems to indicate that he will stop edit warring, and is interested in using proper methods to resolve his dispute. His contribs history just prior to his block seems to bear that out. Can we unblock him, given that he can always be reblocked for longer if he is insincere?

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With reference to Juan Martin, I have been trying to find confirmation of his place of birth and nationality, but can find none, except for on the Knowledge website, which I suspect is wrong (and there seems to be a huge quantity of anecdotal and first hand accounts which deny the information you

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of monthly page views, it does indeed benefit not just the editors calling for undeletion here, but also and thus most importantly the readers having the mainspace redirect and the edit history in which curious readers can see the old versions of the pre-redirected pages, i.e. it's a way to make

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Hi Ryan. I personally think this would be better as a redirect, but that's purely an editorial decision, and I didn't want to give the impression that I was forcing my preferred solution through. There wasn't much consensus either way, so I think it would be better to keep the discussion on the

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I appreciate your assumption of good faith, Ikip. I userfied 9th level games, so that the content could be merged (some of which I did myself). Therefore I satisfied 4 out of 5 !voters. As for cosmic engineers, the point is to look at the quality of the arguments put forward, and just because a

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Hello! Please reconsider your close here. When it closed as can be seen in the edit history I was in the process of revising it substantially using search results from Google News and Google Books. And in any event, there was clearly no consensus in this discussion to delete. Moreover, the

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Hello, I am sending this message in response to your deletion of my page on The Johnsonville Press. You asked if we have been the subject of a major newspaper article, and I will direct you to the following article documenting our formation and launch by the Rutgers Daily Targum (circulation

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By major, I meant something closer to the Times, the Post, etc... our policy states: "A company, corporation, organization, team, religion, group, product, or service is notable if it has been the subject of significant coverage in secondary sources evidence of attention by international or

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Mythology"? Secondly, I always userfy (or main-article-talk-pagify) deleted articles if the authors feel they need to extract some content (just read my talk page). If you feel there is content that merits including in the main article, ask me and I'll put it on the main article's talk page.

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is the link you need. Most of the comments seemed to be on how this page was obviously inappropriate, but remarking that they couldn't quite spin it to fit into one of the Speedy categories. This is ridiculous: the policies and guidelines are there to codify how we think, not to decide it.

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attacks against established editors is a great way to lose the button labelled "edit this page". I respect your devotion to rescuing articles, and you do a lot of great work, but this type of behaviour will get you in trouble. Relax, make yourself a cup of tea, and take into account that

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Honestly, I and I know from others who create and work on these articles actually search for them by typing in "List of x". Anyway, regardless of the DRV, I respectfully request and hope that nevertheless you will please still undelete and redirect, even if as a protected redirect, as I

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on the 3RR board. However, I must disagree with your verdict because unlike the other editor, I didn't go over 3RR. I actually specifically avoiding doing so since I was well aware of said rule and respect it. I don't expect you to take my word for it. So here are difs as proof: My

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say "from his early days in Malaga" which was even more vague, but perhaps he is becoming more confident... the whole thing seems highly dubious to me. If a newspaper or online shop stated he was born in Honolulu, Gdansk, Brighton, Jerez, would that be proof? zorro666

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I've contacted the admin. I wish you'd wait for people to respond before acting. Trust me, I know it's a troll (google is your friend). The block wasn't for the obscenities, it was for the blatant trolling (a first edit to ANI posting a diff from 3 months ago?)

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I did not revert anything, I sumarized it. Read it carefully!. On poor english, please make it good english, by non-reverting, but by editing it. And, on the edit war, actually, I think we should find a suitable solution. Thanks. By the way, you may join us in

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I'll be sending to DR when real life allows. Could you provide me with a copy of the article as it last stood so I can see the sources that existed at the time? Either a history undelete or userfication or just a list of the sources would be great. Thanks,

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How about I put it in your userspace so you can pull what you want out of it? As for the redirect, you have my blessing if you think it's that important (remember that this project is for the readers, not the editors), the page isn't protected.

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between us. To be quite honest I do not understand the relevance of this in our discussion, so I would greatly appreciate your input. Just to be sure that we start on the right track here, I am not looking for "bad blood" from you or indeed

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Right--I see that now. I honestly didn't know redirects came in so many different flavors. I would merge the information myself, but I also don't know much about the topic. I'll see if I can find someone more able and willing. Thanks,

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There are no sources cited, which seems highly dubious, as you do not seem to have any proof of the information presented. I would dearly like to have evidence of this information, so I can lay this issue to rest. Please provide this.

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some months back and so at a minimum the edit history needs to be undeleted with a redirect created instead. A satisfactory result here would be either a re-close as “no consensus“ or undeletion of the edit history and a redirect to

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any of the discussion. I would be interested to understand why. It can be hard to refuse to polarise discussion or interactions in this context. I read the links you provide, and I appreciate your providing them. In the

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Wow, nice to see you have some fans too. Having to work with veteran editors, everyone is so cordial to me by comparison (But that said, working with veteran editors, I am reminded of the New York Review of Books gem,

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article (to a lesser extent), and I'd see no problem in having a page about the website itself, but does this make it enough of a major source to be used as the foundation of an article? I'd suggest you take this to

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Well, a newspaper seems to be a pretty reliable source. If there was any reason whatsoever to believe he wasn't from Andalucia, we'd have to mention it. However, I can't find one reliable source stating otherwise.

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I did not go over that, unlike the other editor who's POV campaign compelled him to breach it anyway. I just wanted to set the record straight, even if you don't decide to revise your verdict. Best,

3186: 2359:). Hopefully this will be enough to resolve the deletion discussion, after which I'll add this to the references of the page and any additional newspaper stories I find later. Thanks for your help! 2385:

Hey Yandman, why did you not merge the information from the SM bike path to The Strand? There was a (little) chunk of text there, with half a dozen references from a reliable source, the LA Times.

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Sorry, consensus is a two-way street. I don't see why anyone has to "discuss" with you to make changes, yet you think you have the right to remove material even if consensus is against you. PS see

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input so I'm not getting steamrolled by biased editors. My goal is to make the article more informative and encyclopedic and that's it. I'm also growing concerned they are using sockpuppets as

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I don't understand, I placed the "hang on" tag on the article. As far as a similar article being his discography, that is not completely factual. He has produced albums for other artists, as

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I don't see the problem with extensive discussion, drawing on research, logic, wikipedia policy, historical context, etc.. I thought this is what we're supposed to do. A relevant article, FYR:

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Hi, you watched my ANI and helped edit a little on the FLG page, but the issue presists. I have placed an informal RfC in the relevant Talk page, do you mind giving me your opinion? Thanks.

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