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have been possible to move a seat from Con to Green in 2009, and from Con to LibDem in 2004. But these theoretically possible changes run against
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PS Re the flagicon position, it seems a little odd as a suffix rather than a prefix; cf, for example, some of the templates added to the ends of country articles. Personally, I'm not too keen on either, as collectively the varied positions of flagicons in groups of (collapsed) templates tend to look
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No offence, but I think it looks a bit of a mess this way, especially the overlap of country names for the 2004 elections (and coming 2009 elections). This morning's edit tabulised it so they couldn't overlap like this. Perhaps the 1987, 1995 and 2007 elections could have a seperate row, but I don't
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There's two reasons why I prefer my way of structuring this template: Firstly, the abbreviations you used are non-standard in some cases, and do not really help with navigating; secondly, it helps a lot to have the supplementary elections in separate rows. I do realise the template takes up a little
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It looks ok to me too (perhaps the flag could be moved to the right of the text for consistency with other election templates?). One concern is its size - and it will be even worse when the 2014 elections come around! Perhaps the country names could be replaced by three letter ISO codes in order to
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Which of the two versions do people prefer? I don't really understand your reasoning behind the change
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I've tried it once more, properly tabularising it this time; I'm mainly against abbreviating the country names because it creates unnecessary confusion (there's no need to save space, really; the space we save is not really used for anything else, as I've tried to reason above), especially since
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he'd prefer the countries' names; on reflection, (1) using the three-letter codes does presume users are comfortable with them; and (2) I don't reckon using the names will increase the template's size significantly. Since they were in use before, would anybody ibject if they were reinstated...?
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Yes, using the three-letter ISO codes seems a good idea! I've also amended the above (rather than add even more to this page's size) so that the off-year election years appear in the group headings and that the gap between groups is slightly larger (i.e. more distinct, using <div:
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There are articles about the EU elections in
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