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plain db template but I'm not sure everyone else does and most would probably just tag it as vandalism (I regularly look at speedy requests to make sure none are inappropiate). If this parameter was avaliable on the db-vandalism (db-g3) template I'd imagine it might lead to some better reasons and so make it easier for admins and anyone else that reviews speedys. I could probably make the change myself but wanted to make sure that I hadn't missed a prior consensus not to have such a parameter and also that there were no disagreements first.
720:, where the named parameter "url" is an option, not a requirement. A named parameter in use can standarize usage and denote its functionality more explicitly than an unnamed empty parameter. The old edit fixed the limitation just as the new one does, but it's good to have standarized templates that work and are intuitive to use. If a parameter such as "displayonly"/"nocat" exists somewhere, it should be standarized across the related templates (as done previously), otherwise it becomes an ad hoc usage.
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the United States article doesn't need to do anything to "fix" the article vis-a-vis the CSD. Joe
Average, on the other hand, should have that Nascar information added to his article, so future editors will know. That's really all I was trying to do, because the wording that's been there doesn't say anything about what to do with the Joe Average article. In your last paragraph there, you're arguing that any tag removal should impose an additional burden on the nominator, which I
859:), which was built into {{db-reason}} itself; the "nocat" tag merely documents that modification. That is, even if the "nocat" tag was not used, {{db-reason|blah| }} can still be used to override categorization (which is even easier to type accidentally than {{db-reason|blah|nocat=}}) Actually, {{db-reason|blah|CATEGORY}} can be used, such that {{db-reason|this article is nonsense|]}} will mark an article as featured content material as opposed to speedy deletion material.
8016:. If I understand correctly, it just has to run maybe once every three or four days, and dummy edit (?) all the non-redirect (there's a few redirects which are used) template pages nominated under T3. I'm afraid I don't understand why it needs to do the dummy edit? Should it only do it if the page has been nominated for more then a week? Let me know if I'm wrong about what you want the bot to do, it's likely that I'd be able to get it to do something else to do with CSD. -
2284:". I'm confused because my edit didn't do that. The instructions already direct the author to explain themselves, so I was trying to treat other editors the same, not differently. Furthermore, no reason was given for restoring the word "obviously", which I removed as incorrect - a page not meeting the criteria should not be speedied whether or not it's obvious. I'm going to re-delete that word, and seek Gene's input regarding the other part. -
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sockpuppets blocked, but I have also repeatedly had to explain this banned user's history to other
Wikipedians (including admins) who appear to distrust my motives and who need to be individually convinced that the ban was justified and that the articles and edits created by new sockpuppets truly deserve to be reverted on sight. As it happens, I don't propose deletion for every new Jvolkblum article I see (just two days ago, I rewrote
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metatemplate added any page it was included in to the CSD category; with the templates displayed, this added all the speedy delete templates and example pages to the category. By separating the commonly used {{db-reason}} from the meta-template, it was no longer necessary to add the category tag to both the templates and the meta-template. This resolved the problem while simultaneously allowing the unprotection of db-reason.
4513:). Neither of the second two would be possible with your proposed 'improvement'. Have you considered the possibility of just using an HTML space or non-breaking space rather than complaining that the template code "eats" a normal space? That system is used on about twenty of the templates. All in all, this is a "solution" to a "problem" which does not, in fact, exist. It is, however, true that the
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but please discuss this here first. one of the benefits of the previous scheme was the assurance of db-reason and the other CSD templates having very simialr language. I am not clear what problem this mov is tring to solve -- indeed IMO the tempaltes were workign fine earlier this month before the large amount of editing. I wish this had been discussed a bit more before implemtation.
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3914:". I don't personally find the 100% version any uglier than the 92% version, and I rather suspect that any significant difference in their appearance is due to peculiarities in Titoxd's browser and font choice. Therefore I've set up a comparison below. Please indicate which of these two lines looks better to you, or whether they look just about equally good or bad:
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several days. Since the split solves the problem, is non-disruptive, and is easily reversible, I did not see the need for extensive discussion before at least temporarily doing it. I apologize if I appeared to be acting too unilaterally; the problem is now fixed, with all the time in the world to discuss making the move permanent or using a different solution. //
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change that to a clumsy copy-and-paste method now. One way to get rid of the metatemplate, if you feel that it is absolutely necessary, would be to have a single template that displays a different message depending on the parameter; such that {{sd|G1}} or {{sd|nonsense}} would display the appropriate message for that criteria.
8447:(outdent) I was just reviewing this discussion and wondering how this was working now. Is there a bot making regular null edits to these pages? (Obviously we can't tell if this is happening or not as their is no entry in the history!) Is this documented anywhere? Was there a BRFA that I missed? Just curious ... — Martin
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and so forth, but these templates are simply tools to help enforce those policies. Further, changing from a meta-template to a copy-and-paste method would not make any difference to this editability. That would simply make them much less standardised. If I misinterpret your response, feel free to clarify. //
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Hopefully we can come up with a consistent and extenable scheme (so that any template can have sub-templates like db-band / db-club from db-bio).... and hopefully we can document it in a way that future editors who wish to make new templates or tweak the exisitng ones can do so without breaking anything.
8077:. Those pages would benefit from regular null edits as well. An idea would then be to place all pages that need regular updates into a new category, and your bot could then perform a null edit on each page every couple days (possibly skipping those where the last revision is younger then one or two days).
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process; the biggest problem is that it gives reviewers something misinterpret as they latch onto it say that the tag was improperly removed, and it will still be speedied, but it really isn't worded clearly enough so that various editors will interpret it in anything remotely resembling a consistent way.
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Okay, I think I understand this now. So I'll do another BRFA in a while (I've got a bit on my plate in regards to the 'pedia just now, so it'll be about five days). I also have a few other ideas for the bot, and other task have been suggested by other users. If you have any more a ideas rearding this
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The reason it needs a dummy edit is a bit complicated. Categorization of a page is only written to the database in two cases: If a page is edited directly, or if a page which is transcluded onto other pages is changed then jobs are spawned to reparse all those pages (immediately or queued) and update
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Deprecated means its use is discouraged. The only reason it can't be removed is it would break articles whose edit histories included copyvio-tags but where the article was not deleted or where it was restored on review, such as where it was on the web in a GFDL-compatible license. Deprecated means
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If the banned editor is the only contributor to the page or its talk page, speedy deletion is invariably correct. If other editors have unwittingly made good-faith contributions to the page or its talk page, it is courteous to inform them that the page was created by a banned user, and then decide on
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still has the warning about not deleting a missing image due to a server issue and being able to recover them... has this issue not yet been resolved? I'm not an admin but I have tagged a number of pages with it over the last while and wonder when the issue will be resolved and the template returned
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I edited template:db-a9 and was going to edit template:db-album, but realized I didn't understand what you were talking about, so I reverted my edit. I think that currently, when you try to delete a page by clicking delete on the db-album template, it will put in the block log summary "Article about
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I realize there're good reasons for leaving all the speedy templates open to editing (though likely semi-ing them wouldn't hurt too much), but is there any reason any of them would be moved? That sort of thing could kinda' screw things up with the creation of a lot of double redirects. Anyway, just
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template? In all my time on
Knowledge, I've never seen someone actually use the free-form speedy template with a valid reason. We have specific speedy templates for all the criteria, and so this one seems redundant and prone to misuse (i.e. unintentional wrong use, not abuse). So why keep it? I'd
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There are often pages which at first glance may not be vandalism. For example the other day I speedy requested a page on an apparent cricketer. This was obviously a hoax as it stated he'd played in some games that it was very easy to prove he didn't with a link or two. Additionally there were some
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Oh, I see. Damn, you are right, I have been a fool, I should have noticed that I could do this with a simple fix, and I didn't investigate the matter enough before proposing the change, or I would have found this. I'll take your exhaustive advice into account when I see problems into other templates.
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I've added some code (after several tries) that will require users wishing to have their user talk pages deleted to provide a rationale. I've seen a lot of cases where people simply want to delete a history of warnings, so the template has been modified to either provide a rationale or the request is
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will cause the text at the bottom to be trimmed down. Currently this means it will say simply, "If this page does not meet the criteria for speedy deletion, please remove this notice." I have also made the corresponding changes to the templates also mentioned at the talk page linked above that should
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I think I understand your argument, Gene, but maybe I don't, because I don't see how the above amounts to my edit being a bad one. In the version before I edited it, the instructions were vague and subjective by using the word "obviously"; after I edited it, they were vague and subjective because of
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To resolve the issues above, I'll move the speedy-delete category tag to the subsidiary templates. I'll also implement a 'category' parameter across all the templates to allow the optional modification of the category tag. Barring anything unexpected, the transition should be completed within an hour
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It really depends on what you want to do: Just take care of the SD tagged pages, or build some general-purpose null-edit mechanism for all kinds of problems. If the former, then I guess you won't need a category since you're already tracking SD tags and can easily find all pages where a C1 or T3 tag
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Sorry, I'm being really slow. If I understand, the proposal is to create a new category which every 1/3/5/7 day(s) the bot goes through and does a null edit. By doing this null edit the bot forces
Knowledge to update the categories for that page. As well as all the admin backlogs, the Db-t3 template
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Imagine a stupid categorization like ]. With the MediaWiki system, it's very very hard to keep this categorized correctly all the time. The underlying problem is that pages that are shown as part of a category are explicit entries in a database table. Database write actions are expensive since there
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on a page that was deleted or does not exist..."). If it might be useful though, one should consider whether the abandoned rewrite-attempt can serve as a draft for a new article instead. If the article exists, G8 cannot be applied because then the page it depends on exists. One might want to ask the
7778:(and cause a very large error message when a prod is attempted on them), but they are (at least technically) "talk page of a page which does not exist". This would appear to be using a technicality-for-inclusion to overcome a technicality-for-exclusion, but might be considered wikilawyering by some.
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Is there a template for user talk pages that says "If you came here to tell me an article will not be deleted, don't bother telling me"? I patrol the new pages a lot and when I speedy them, there are some that will not be deleted because they meet the criteria for being here. So when they do stay, I
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Well, that sounds reasonable enough, I'd imagine, although if it's not an online source it might be hard to verify it for speedy (unless it's a really, really blatant offline copyvio). So I'm not entirely sure what you mean when you say URL would be deprecated, you aren't talking about disabling the
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I've just tagged a couple of articles with db-g12, both of which infringe copyright from multiple URLs -- one from two different web sites, the other from multiple pages on the same site. For both articles, I gave the most obvious example as the url parameter of the template. It might be a good idea
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the name, things like history merges should not go into this combined category. Indeed, they should stay about as far away from "ordinary" speedy deletions as possible. The few admins that regularly handle history merges and know how to do them properly already know where to find them, while those
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The justification for putting only what is different in each instance in the subtemplates is just that: it minimises duplication. I can see some advantages to your proposal, but also some disadvantages. First of all, it substantially increases the length of most of the templates, and bullet points
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Since nobody gave any reason for this to remain, I reworded it for the self=yes case to "Administrators: check history (last) before deletion (See also links and logs).". I kept the links and logs since some people may want to check them. My point was merely that we shouldn't command people to check
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I understand that "may be necessary" requires interpretation, but ultimately, we have to assume that well meaning editors who disagree with each other will talk with one another and work this out. We don't need a piece of red tape to cover every conceivable situation; but it's a good idea to phrase
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those other than the author to make some explanation, and it probably had as much do do with your edit summary on the other page as the one here. Reverting is often a "hangon" procedure in editing, saying let's go back to what was there because the change wasn't really an improvement, even if parts
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which, not being a recognised namespace, would just appear as a normal article. A relatively inexperienced user, or one in a hurry, may not notice the fact that they are creating a new page in the wrong place. This is especially likely since articles tagged with speedy delete templates don't usually
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Reading the discussion above, I agree that a named parameter is better, since it prevents accidental removal from the speedy-delete category. Intentional removal from a category is not a pressing issue; the user who placed the tag is likely to watch it for vandalism, and besides which the same could
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By the way, I'm glad to see a central discussion of these templates. It seems there have been too many ad-hoc changes to them by too many people. And I don't think everyone who's tried editing understands the templates and their dependencies completely, and the consequences of their code choices.
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Uh... you're trying to confuse me now ;)... Seems very complex, shame that it can't just categorise first time. Anyway, one thing I don't get is; you sugest a category of pages which the bot runs through and does a null edits on every few days, but if the reason for this is because the pages aren't
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for speedy deletion earlier today (the tagging that apparently precipitated this note), I did check to see if the template would let me enter more information about the reason, but I couldn't find a way to do so. I used the edit summary to indicate that checkuser had confirmed this particular sock,
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does not even point out that the name of the banned user can be included as a parameter in the template (as in {{db-banned|Jvolkblum}}). I don't remember how I learned that, but I learned it after an admin asked which banned user I was concerned about when I tagged an article without including that
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prone to misuse, I'd argue that it's really no more prone to it than the numbered ones. Off the top of my head, when I'm doing speedy deletions, I'd estimate I pick the same criterion as the original tagger maybe 60% of the time. Most of the time, as you say, the confusion is well-intentioned and
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The choice of reasons offered by the drop-down menu is somewhat limited (necessarily, since the menu is already long enough as it is) compared to the full selection of db-* templates, though. But yes, for those templates that exactly match an entry in the menu, the wording should be identical, and
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A small problem with the way these templates appear has just been brought to my attention. If someone places a deletion template on a talk page (as they should do under, for example, CSD G8), anyone who tries to contest/comment on the deletion by clicking on the words "its talk page", as instructed
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I fail to see what relevance the discussion above has, however. You seem to be arguing that the templates should never be changed, or at least changed only with community consensus. I fully disagree with that; few parts of
Knowledge should ever be beyond initiative. Exceptions are made for policies
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I just wanted to mention that I was on a public computer the other day (logged out) and tagged a page for CSD. Due to the external link (to Google, I assume is the issue) it requires you to enter a captcha to save your edit. This really should be removed, you shouldn't need to enter a captcha when
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I'm fine with leaving history merges with their own special category that already exists. Db-g6 is a bit of a strange bird, it does require some analysis. It's not a "delete-on-sight" like U1 is, but when used appropriately and in good faith it's something that can usually be done without a lot of
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speedy deletions should be non-controversial, but it's true that, in practice, they aren't always so. It's also true that, controversial or not, some speedy deletions are more obvious than others, though often there's as much variation on this within individual criteria as between them. I guess,
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template: there are dozens of speedy deletion templates that use this metatemplate, plus a couple that don't. In fact, having an ambox type for the "speedy" color scheme might encourage people to change more of the less typical speedy templates to use ambox directly rather than via this template,
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on one hand, where the tag can simply be removed, as the article is clearly not a speedy candidate; and on the other hand, an article about Joe Q. Average, which looks like a speedy candidate, but wouldn't be if we knew about Joe's renown in the Nascar community. Anyone removing a speedy tag from
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Ah, I just realized I misunderstood the edit summary. Somehow I mentally inserted the word 'no'. My bad. Now my question is - what is the good reason for not asking people removing the speedy tag to either fix the article, or at least explain what's going on if "if necessary"? What on earth is
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I am inclined to think that this is a bad idea, and in any case should not have been put into practice without additional discussion, particualrly during the holiday season when fewer people are looking at this issue. I willnot simply revernt these changes, although i am strongly tempted to do so,
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There clearly is much divergence of opinion about the treatment of banned users. I have been following
Jvolkblum sockpuppets for almost a year. I have been repeatedly advised that this user is so notorious by now that it is unnecessary to expend my time going through standard procedure to get new
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In both cases a rationalle parameter would a) allow an admin not knowledgable in the subject area to see it as vandalism and b) even if an admin still wasn't happy deleting it would at least make it less likely they'd remove the tag as inappropiate. I delt with both of the above by just using the
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There are many cases where an already existing page is copied (rather than moved) in it's an entirity to a new (and obviously incorrect) name, often changing all instances of the name in the text as well, and this is obviously vandalism. A rationale parameter would allow the nominator to explain
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I don't think it matters much as long as histmerges and "delete to make way for move" (which can be quite controversial) aren't lumped in with the rest. As the speedy deletion category is rarely backlogged these days (haven't seen more than 200 items in quite a long time), not much categorization
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Db-g6 and similars than can be reworded as "deletion because it needs" instead of "deletion. It needs". I can do that myself once db-meta is changed (yeah, I know that it's 400+ templates, but many don't allow for custom reason so the only change needed is touching the start of one sentence, and
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Thankfully, Picaroon was able to help me make the edit (with his uber-admin powers) over IRC. In the process I totally obliterated the need for the "reasonlink" parameter, which is still passed along from all of the templates with preset messages. (The parameter {{{reasonlink}}} was replaced with
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db-reason), and generally cleaning up a hodge-podge of messy code and different template schemes. I just propagated his work to all of the dependent templates, and fixed some bugs. I would be inclined not to change things if they work... But if someone would like to re-do the templates using a
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I think that it would be a bit easier if we had an additional speedy delete template, for when the reason for an article's deletion might not be so blatantly obvious. I know that the talk page is there for that purpose, but it's rather time-wasting to first edit the page, insert the speedy delete
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Obviously, the link doesn't work correctly here, but I believe I've got the variables right. It can be said that we already have a link to the talk page at the top of each article, but adding the link in line with the rest (we also have direct links to page history and
Whatlinkshere in monobook)
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But also, once an objection is raised, I think that should impose at least a little burden on the nominator to go forward; even if the objector hasn't made it clear what the objection is based on, then the nominator should more precisely specify what the nomination was based on. Maybe not as an
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another dependant template. This would fit very well into the standard scheme that's now in use on the 28 other speedy-delete templates, and allow users to edit this one. For obvious reasons, allowing users to edit the metatemplate is a rather bad idea. I'm willing to makes the changes myself if
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the category spec, instead of remove it. :) Of course that would be gross, counterituitive and a Bad Idea, when the caller can just categorize itself in the usual way. I think when we're done we need to document what's going on inside these templates, and write a "how to clone/modify" so that
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This would immediately stick it into the bot category since, when the tag is added, the age switch template evaluates to 0. Once the seven days have passed, the template would evaluate to 1, so it only takes a (null) edit to actually place it in the category by triggering the update to the link
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Right now the template's pretty disorienting, which is a problem since new users are usually the focus of it. I think something like the above would be an improvement because it says exactly who should do what. It also puts the reasoning on its own line, which makes it fit the other message box
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And it wouldn't hurt to reword it so that that "hangon" rather than removing the notice is available, even if you weren't the original author. Nor would it hurt to have that template include an optional parameter to specify whether the objection is based on not meeting the criteria for speedy
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The
Knowledge stylesheets are inaccessible to the average user, and any changes are highly bureaucratic and would need to be applied to the seven different stylesheets. Not only do the usual reasons against metatemplates not apply, it's been in use for somewhat over a year; there's no reason to
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I've been busy moving to a temporary new home over the last couple days and had no access to the
Internet. Unfortunately, I ran out of time before I could finish troubleshooting the templates I had already modified. I apologize for the mess that resulted, and intend on addressing all the issues
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The reasons offered by the db templates should be changed to the heavily discussed and agreed upon
Deletereason-dropdown reasons. Maybe a more prominent delete link would also be useful, because the script automatically selecting the delete reason is broken since the 'content was:...' has been
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I'm not sure, but I think I know how to do this. I don't know what you mean by dropdown and I don't understand why you say the summary is blanked. (I'm not an admin.) But I'm guessing what you want is to have the summary in the block log filled in automatically for you. That's the "summary"
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This is something only other admins will care about, but usually when a certain tag is on a page and you click "delete", the dropdown selects the relevant reason automatically and the summary is blanked. I have no idea how that works but if someone does, could we get the same functionality for
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actually places the page under "Nonsense pages for speedy deletion", which is problematic since that's not actually the criteria we're looking at under that category. Given that we lack a "Vandalism pages for speedy deletion" category, I'm not sure how to remedy the problem, or even if it is a
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so that it more explicitly informs you to add hangon to the article page, then explain on the talk page. I've seen far too many people add the hangon tag to the talk page, so the deleting admin never sees it. If possible, could we also add a note saying admins should check the talk page before
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I had invited discussion concerning the split, but an editor added the category tag to the meta-template. This fixed the non-categorisation issue with db-reason, but added all the templates to the CSD template. Due to the holiday season, as you point out, further discussion might have required
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of the "that may be necessary" part. I'm not sure that your removal of "obviously" was necessary in any case, but what added in the other part suffers from the same kind of interpretation problems. The biggest problem isn't so much that it will mislead those intending to object to the speedy
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Just a guess, but have you enabled font smoothing on your XP box? Unlike IE, Firefox on Windows won't smooth fonts unless this is enabled by default in the control panel. (I might be wrong, I'm just guessing since this is a common source of "some fonts look ugly on Firefox/Win" problems.)
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The usual argument about server performance and possible widespread vandalism used to oppose meta-templates don't, IMO, apply here, since none of the speedy delete templates are (I should hope) likely to be on a large number of articles at once, nor are those articles likely to be frequently
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has adapted a "nocat" parameter which is basically the same as the old "displayonly" parameter, even though the named parameter approach has been abandoned by this template. So, should we use the named or unnamed approach? Personally I prefer named (as before) because it is more consistent.
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I assume you mean the criteria preloaded into the deletion summary? Yes, those should indeed be harmonised. I think the best solution to the autofill issue is new javascript that works with the new settings, but as an interim measure making the delete link more prominent wouldn't go amiss.
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The primary benefits of the recent changes are much simplified code and the ability to display them on example and template pages. (These changes, and the split, do not in any way affect the wording; indeed, the wording is now even more standardised.) A problem arose with the fact that the
2354:, but that's not what this particular edit was about. If you want to modify the instructions to allow for that, then be bold, but I don't understand what's wrong with saying that someone who sees that the article needs improvements should improve it! That seems like an independent issue.
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I don't think that extra logic is necessary, almost all of the pages will have a template causing the need for the frequent null edits anyway, so the categorization of all of them can be rather easily done there, without a real need to register them all through a preexisting category.
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Why exactly does this need a meta-template in the first place? Other than the recent rush, those templates are rarely modified. It would be easier to simply copy/paste the same (simple) code into each CSD template, and this would also solve the "noinclude" problem mentioned above.
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Stupid null edits don't leave an audit trail. From everything I can tell though, they don't just recategorize themselves. At least no one in the know (and I don't know the intrinsics of the job queue myself) ever told of a mechanism that would help with this problem. For example,
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Can someone please change "articles that you have created yourself" to "pages that you have created yourself"? I just applied this tag to a template (a recreation of a deleted one), and its author removed it. I'd like to eliminate any unintentional namespace loophole. Thanks!
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supposed to jump up and scream at your face (since, if all goes well, nothing serious is actually going to happen to the article). That's why I felt it would be best to redesign it not to look like an ordinary speedy tag at all. But we're going rather off on a tangent here...
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This suggests that (for someone who isn't the author) simply removing the speedy tag while "intending" to fix it is enough to keep the article from being deleted. In practice, however, if the article really does meet some CSD, then there really has to be some reason given to
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the templates easier (but anybody who doesn't know who templates work has no business working with speedy deletions); and if this parameter is used improperly it will mess up the category system, by listing speedy-deletable articles in the wrong category, or nowhere at all.
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How is that wise? Even in the rare worst case that a user absentmindedly writes that request on the wrong page, it still can be restored quickly. By checking each of the items for each request, we're spending hours in order to save minutes. That doesn't seem wise to me. —
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the page is up for CSD and towards the 'actions-on', which is not really a good idea: we want newbies to see clearly why the page is unacceptable so they can take productive steps to fix it. With some reformatting, however, it might be possible to minimise that effect.
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the templates. That will save a lot of work. It will also allow all of us to understand what we're doing as well as the advantages, disadvantages and side-effects of each prposed implementation $ mdsdh; before we foist the changes off on the rest of Knowledge. :)
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It won't be more work for anybody, since it'll be completely optional whether you use Template:Delete or Template:Deletebecause (I like that name). Also, I inserted the reason using {{User talk:Mike Storm/sandbox2|reason=Reason goes here.}}, and putting <nowiki:
2046:. If you created this page and you disagree with the given reason for deletion, you can click the button below and leave a message explaining why you believe it should not be deleted. You can check back later to see if you have received a response to your message.
1923:. If you created this page and you disagree with the given reason for deletion, you can click the button below and leave a message explaining why you believe it should not be deleted. You can check back later to see if you have received a response to your message.
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I don't think the current template jumps out enough... to new users or veterans (I'm not sure I'd notice this over the layers of nagging templates people like to add to articles). The fact that an article has been nominated for CSD should be very, very prominent.
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IIRC this issue is now largely resolved: all the images that were corrupted have been tagged as such, which should preclude deletion. The majority have now been fixed. I've removed the notice; feel free to readd it if the I am mistaken and it is still needed.
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Agree with Asher196, and reverted the change. Please feel free to revert again if it really does hamper the CSD work so much, but this is the second time I've had to save and then re-save because this template expects a parameter that is not strictly needed.
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Third, and I suspect this will be the controversial part, I'd suggest getting rid of the {{{bgcolor}}} parameter entirely. The alternative would be to retain it as an optional override. I just don't see any particular need for it that would justify the added
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4) I would hate to see the issue resolved either by subst-ing or by not showing the template. Subst'ing decreases the editability and maintainability of the templates. Not showng the template content decreases the usability of the templates, as people expect
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Besides a few very minor changes (removed a double-space, for example), I surrounded the category tag with an optional parameter. This fixes the "technical limitation" that prevents it from being displayed on non-speedy-deletable pages by making the category
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Well it may be done as a cunning joke: create a horrible article, then tag it with a fake speedy-delete tag, hoping that casual editors won't notice that the categorization did not actually occur, and the article could remain on Knowledge for a long time).
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Very well, I am easily swayed and I guess this makes more sense. Just following the standard procedure on templates within templates but since I don't really use these any more and it would be convenient ( I guess) I will undo my changes. =) Happy editing.
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with the parameter self=yes. Currently, the logic disregards this parameter for the to do actions. This results in the full list "Administrators: check links, history (last), and logs before deletion" being displayed, which is inappropriate in the case of
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either references to it would be removed from the documentation or it would be explicitly marked as deprecated in the documentation with a recommendation to use "source" instead. If this had been a subst'd template I'd just say remove URL altogether.
4489:"problem". The wordings were selected on their own merits, and technical methods were used to ensure that they could be implemented on the templates. We have examples of a variety of junctions in the db- series, including "deletion as an article..." (
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Lots of templates have that feature written in. It is a hidden link back to the template so it can be edited later. It may also be useful in case anyone does a Subst: on template on a page, because it will still show in the templates Whatlinkshere. --
1755:. Extreme newbies invariably click the link and edit the template directly to provide their reason for not having the page speedy deleted. There's also no reason for someone to go and view or edit the template directly, so a link here is unnecessary. —
4629:). The permanent protection is really good for this sort of stuff. Don't worry, melon, I'm sure that I'll find some spectacular way to get myself blocked for something worse than making a good faith change to a template that breaks lots of stuff :D --
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would look if it was built on db-meta.) Also, a CSS class would allow people to customize the background color via their user CSS. (Who knows, maybe some speedy patrollers hate pink...) Anyway, there seems to be some related discussion going on at
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Seconding the above. I'd also like to note that there are things which unquestionably should be speedily deleted but aren't covered by the existing CSD (can't think of one off the top of my head, I'll come back after I find/think of one). Cheers.
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was added eight days ago. If you want to tackle the larger problem, then I think a category is best to track those pages for the bot. The next question would then be whether it's necessary to categorize pages by the desired frequency of null edits.
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Along that line I've replaced NAMESPACE:PAGENAME by SUBJECTPAGENAME for the admin links (see above for the effect). Clearly this and your modification (incl. a later #ifeq: replacing your switch) won't work as expected for the speedy deletion of a
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Thanks for the explanation. I am not sure that the need to speedy delete a talk page is large enough to need an explanation on all the other db-* templates. The need to speedy delete talk pages for nonexistent articles can't be that large, right?
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Not possible, unless the calling template adds a parameter like called-by=db-author. But why do you need this, your proposed wording is fine, simply use it, if folks don't see db-author while looking for db-reason it's a hopeless case. Admittedly
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The problem is, db-meta includes a statement telling the article's original author not to remove the tag, which is clearly inappropriate for db-author. Discussion is getting underway on how to fix this problem; if you're interested, please visit
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Also, it always display the link under the AfD name even if it's a link to a MfD or TfD discussion, and AfD gets blue automatically anyways if the article had the same name, in which case you don't need to add a custom link on the first place.
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that has no reason specified). This would mean that any change in this template's wording would be automatically reflected in all the other speedy deletion templates, and thus the wording would been consistent, except for the specific reason.
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a reason against using meta-templates here, as demonstrated by the discussion above. These templates are supposed to not be modified (indeed, they should be vprotected). And note that significant changes can be done in the CSS class.
8061:. A page might display that it is in a category, but isn't really. Performing a null edit however does trigger a complete reparsing, with updates to the link tables, even if the page was unchanged and no entry to the history is made.
8269:, etc. And then every now and then (mebbes twice a day) the bot runs through all the pages in each category, and if the last edit to the page was longer ago then the frequency, then the bot performs a null edit. Wadda you think? -
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consitent approach across the board I would not object. Just please make sure when we're done that the templates all work (with both named, unnamed, and missing end-user parameters) and put the articles (but not themselves) into
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to make the URL parameter mandatory. This is because I regularly come upon images tagged with this template and no URL, and also no other comment explaining why the image is a copyvio. An example of what it might look like is at
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In general we only protect pages in response to actual unwanted activity, so there's no justification for implementing this sort of protection pre-emptively. I did once try to fully-protect the whole series, but was overruled.
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Violetriga's latest red-and-pink ambox-based compromise looks good to me, but I started to wonder about the {{{bgcolor}}} parameter to this template. If we could get rid of it, we could move the background color entirely to
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It seems to me that the name of this template is not very descriptive about how to use it, so I would like to add a usage section here. Is there a table somewhere that tells what all these speedy deletion templates are for?
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6865:. Obviously some of these are going to have nothing of value, but some do, and this will save people digging through histories to find that out. I won't get very far today, but I don't think it's very pressing. Cheers. ~
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Bottom line: this template is not particularly effective as a communication tool, and experiences like mine are likely to inspire contributors to say "Scr*w it; let Knowledge find someone else to combat this vandalism."
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An important thing to remember about these templates is that they are Project Specific, not simply Article Messages, anything with a pale blue background is going to fade in to the background on all non-article pages. —
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Just one editprotected tag, beside your request, is plenty. The only circumstance I can think of where this might happen is if the article was already deleted and the talk page was not. Is that what you were thinking
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Someone else tagged an article with the db-meta tag directly, and for whatever reason the template was hidden unless I created a standard db tag below it. It also didn't add the article to the speedy deletion category.
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put the book's name and the page in the URL field but it's just awkward. By changing to "source" it makes the template match what I think is its intended use. "Sources" would be used if there were multiple sources.
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I've changed this to a half-way compromise — it puts in a big red warning if the URL parameter is omitted, requesting its inclusion or an explanation why it is not included, while still tagging the image for deletion.
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requires that a category have been empty for four days, but it is virtually impossible for an administrator patrolling CSD to determine whether this condition has been met. I suggest adding a conditional expression
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who don't really shouldn't ever need to stumble across them. Yes, that's probably a special and extreme case, but I'm not sure offhand if there might not be other such not-so-simple cases also lumped under G6. —
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that allows for an optional (unnamed) parameter to supply the location of the transwikied text. The idea is to make it a little easier for the admin handling the request to find the transwikied article.
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What's the point of this: "do not remove this notice from pages that you have created yourself." if you replace the article. Why? If the page just said "test", but then I decided to replace it with
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an an album, which does not indicate importance". Is that what it does? Other than apparently duplicating the word "an", is that not what you want it to do? Are you talking about something else?
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and claims to be per the page rendering, but isn't. Make a null edit, and it will be listed in the category. Pages ... I can currently only think of the four templates mentioned in this section.
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to have it display, like categories or code that explodes without parameters. Besides, wrapping it in includeonly tags here will only hide it on db-meta, not on all the other db- template pages.
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Sounds OK. But I'd really suggest calling them something like "Knowledge pages ...", I think that's the standard naming convention for self-referential maintainance categories. All should be
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obvious mistakes (test playing cricketer at a stupidly yound age, age and date of birth not matching). At first glance this page seemed OK but a closer look made it obvious it was vandalism.
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is authors blanking pages after a speedy-deletion tag has been placed on them. Can we have some sort of verbiage added to this template explaining that this isn't what's meant by "deletion"?
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When one uses this template, is there some way to state the reasons why the article ought to be deleted? Merely saying it's created by a banned user in violation of the ban is not enough.
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this tag, and then explain why you believe this template talk page should not be deleted on this talk page. This will alert administrators to permit you the time to write your explanation.
8052:. FWIW, from what I can tell it's enough to use an empty appendtext parameter, you don't have to fetch the text and timestamp first; but you're the bot builder, you'll probably know better.
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This, however, would require the template to refer to the name of the template which included it. This is probably possible; I just don't know how offhand. Any better ideas on the wording?
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to preview the changes. In Deletereason-dropdown, the criterion number is prior to the reason, this can be handled by db-meta. Then the summary of each template will have to be changed.
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I would like to update the documentation to explain the parameter, but the documentation file is pretty complex and I'm not quite source how to do it, so some help would be appreciated.
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if a person contests the page deletion. This won't work with talk pages, as the hangon template is coded not to work unless you use the tp=1 parameter. Can we update the instructions?
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to link to the templates rather than including them, thus keeping it out of categories. But nobody in their right mind would speedily delete that anyway, so it's hardly that big a deal.
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the talk page could already be created with banners or whatnot even if there's no hangon rationale...but still I bet this would cover 90% of cases); if the talk page isn't created, the
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No one disputed the change, which was explicitly mentioned at least one section. Seems like the definition of (wiki-)consensus to me. We could always do some revert-discuss, though. :)
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1462:. I'm going to hold of on fixing it until we can discuss what to do about it. One possibility is to use "category=" everywhere, but that just puts us were we were a few days ago.
6968:, so it indicates the "This template places the page in..." extra category? I tried to look at the docs page, but again, it uses very complex syntax so I'm reluctant to touch it. --
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are posted to an article. Please join us for the central discussion there. "Template Experts" are encouraged to join as the main conversation is between process an policy editors.
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but neither an edit summary nor a template provides enough space to tell the whole story of why this banned user was banned and why his/her contributions should be deleted on sight.
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P.D.:notice that adding a space to the start of my reason for deletion won't work. You actually have to use ". " because the template eats the space at the start of the string. --
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I think the db-g3 template should have a rationale parameter to help admins when the vandalism isn't immediately obvious. My point is probably best illistrated by two exampes:
5018:, and this article does not meet this criteria, or you intend to fix it, please remove this notice. An administrator will delete this article shortly if there are no objections.
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The reason I9 requires a URL parameter is because if a source image cannot be indicated, there is no evidence that an image is in use in violation of a copyright. Images that
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I don't know if anyone has been around doing null edits, but I've deleted several categories which were tagged 4 days ago, so the new code seems to be working well. — Martin
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Because not all former T1 deletions are valid G10 deletions, as in the pedophile userbox example - it requires human judgement to determine the appropriate course of action.
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templates better, and is much easier to read. I think having each sub-template contain half a sentence is kind of a weird hack and makes things unnecessarily difficult. —
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I have an objection. What if the copyright violation doesn't come from a web site. How do I use this template if, for example, someone scanned a page from a magazine?
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Regarding: "it probably had as much do do with your edit summary on the other page as the one here," what are you talking about? Which other page? Which edit summary?
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Ah, thanks David, that's the place I was looking for. I'll head over and see what can be done (maybe I can do it myself with copy+paste scripting^^). Thanks again :-)
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and changed the documentation accordingly. The old parameters still work, though I suppose we could phase them out in a few months if necessary. Cheers.
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parameter which must be passed to db-meta. Maybe I'll just be bold and go ahead and do that, and you can see if it does what you want.
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without ever leaving a hangon rationale, thinking the hangon template alone will save the article. Could we add text like
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of the speedy tag rather than with it. Why not add "below this tag" after "the top of the page" in the template text?
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I don't see how this is necessary or useful. I'm open to be convinced, however.
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where it belongs. As far as I can tell, the only template that uses it is {{
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Is there any way we can change the colour back to pink? Had a quick look at
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I endorse that change, and don't think anything beyond that need be done -
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Perhaps "... and there is no plausible assertion that the file is ..."? --
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I agree that the documentation is a bit of a bitch; it probably needs its
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for example is placed on some pages that aren't edited regularly, like on
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will do the job much more easily and without breaking 42 other templates?
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assertions that the file is free. However those claims are simply bogus.
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which is where the suggestion is made (somewhere in that long thread). --
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that a similar change was summarily shot down on db-meta/new a month ago
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You've had no further feedback on it, here or there. It may be time for
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Oh, and if you add a category to one of the categories (e.g. you added
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can guess most reasons, but I wonder why the wording is different from
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Agree with Ryan above, fades in the background on non-article pages. —
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speedy it, right? Should the wording of this tag reflect that fact? -
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If that works, great. Let's see what the implmentation looks like.
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Oddly enough, I came up with the exact same idea several days ago at
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s, and they should be placed in a parent category of the same name.
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so people know where the category is being moved/renamed? Thanks, --
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without the permission of the author(s). As a copyright violation,
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do not remove this notice from pages that you have created yourself
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I was just trying to distinguish two cases: someone speedy tagging
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do not remove this notice from pages that you have created yourself
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do not remove this notice from pages that you have created yourself
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8784:, I suggest we standardize on that. If that is the plan then only
7208:. I don't think this is appropriate, because these articles lack
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Hello, sir. I would like to add a live search link to the page at
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I've notice recently that quite a few pages are being tagged with
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Things like this are a fantastic way to break user scripts.... --
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I have no idea how to do this, but think it would be worthwhile.
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on the User Talk page of the main contributor(s) to this article.
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the phrase "that may be necessary". Why was the earlier version
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adding displayonly= to prevent miscategorization of the templates
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without using the nocat trick, just by using <includeonly: -->
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Yes, please! I was just about to ask you if you would! :-) --
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pages in their own userspace anyway. I have reverted your edit.
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This doesn't work right, because if someone tags an article wih
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Let's discuss proposed changes here, and try to reach consensus
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to standardize on "nocat=" in addiotion to the unnamed parameter
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to fix error in above edit that prevented article categorization
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I've added "credible" since that it also the qualifier used in
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one, please do let me know. Thanks for your help Amalthea :) -
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Hi all. Following the repeal of CSD T1 following discussion at
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problem at all - but I thought I'd bring it up for discussion.
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I've gone ahead and added the "self" parameter as discussed at
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An interesting property of "nocat" is that it could be used to
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Do not remove this notice if you are the creator of this page.
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Well I'd do it, but I can't edit fully protected pages...yet.
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just where google is listed, giving live seach hits, please.
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Anyone think it would be a good idea to merge the categories
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Template talk:Db-userreq#does this really need to be checked?
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allowing usage on talk pages without warnings or parameters,
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Or is that too off-putting? Feel free to tweak the wording.
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on this page and then followed the link, I would be sent to
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Hm, interesting. Shouldn't "includeonly" take care of that?
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as a redirect to this template for those fond of shorthand.
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edit. You could even check first if the page is already in
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can an admin please add to Db-g3 content similar to Db-g1?
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is obvious - assuming this is the correct template to use.
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is documented here below the example for some days now. --
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A new suggestion: can we use an "if" template to check the
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Done, and please whack that rules lawyer with a wet trout.
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rejection of speedy because admin didn't spot the AfD link
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The wording on the template does not match the wording at
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Titoxd recently edited the template to wrap the text in a
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I'm concerned about this particular line in the template:
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I edited the wrong window's wiki. I'm sorry about that. --
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Ah, I see... so the code would have to be something like
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which is why there are suddenly a couple of templates in
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Please remove Google or add other searchengines as well.
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I would simply make all the reasons in db-... templates (
3545:. Regarding a color change, you'll have to take it up on
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This makes it clearer when speedying user pages. Thanks!
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That's good. Now why won't an admin come and do it? : -->
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for awhile now. Should probably remove all/any old tags.
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From a friend and myself to help relieve the wikistress.
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Yes, ones which have tagged less than 4 days ago are in
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This seems worth fixing, particularly in the context of
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If something is a copyright violation from a book, you
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to read existing discussion and put your two cents in.
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you have not edited the article talk page yet, please
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Never mind that, I found a solution to the problem. --
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would be a good way to handle it? It'd take a little
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it's the sort of task I enjoy). I also noticed that {{
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I'd therefore like to make the following suggestions:
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Since there's been no objections, I've added code to
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URL function, but adding alternatives. Am I right? --
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I have begun archiving old discussions under Db-meta
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belong in this category: in particular, handling a {{
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couldn't hurt. And avoiding acronyms never hurts. --
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I like the idea, this type of idea makes me wish for
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I think this part needs to be removed/replaced from
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etc.) to the template so that the category links to
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As there are no objections I have made this change.
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been completely overhauled, during which exhaustive
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It was recently suggested that we should be "making
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new position for AfD link at Db-g4 was not visiblel
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Hmmm. Gene Nygaard reverted me with the summary: "
1136:Note that it's easy to keep these templates out of
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9008:without posting a rationale at the talk page will
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8030:Yes, I'd like that, all pages that transclude the
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2211:{{db-meta|1=Don't believe they're notable per ].}}
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2823:Wait, wouldn't {{anchorencode:stuff}} be better?
2186:, no idea what all the other db-whatever do. The
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9342:{{#ifexist:Talk:{{PAGENAME}}| |{{#if:{{{1|}}}| |
8328:How then do I register the actual category page
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6743:Yes, it no longer triggers the captcha. Thanks!
6526:G2 does fit better, yes. If you want to do it,
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5519:I'm a bit of two minds about this. In theory,
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4745:Author requested deletion or blanked the page (
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1345:Wait, what? removed nonsensical own text. : -->
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7662:Could we put an automatic 4-day time delay on
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5852:The main "db" template - do we really need it?
5526:Category:Candidates for simple speedy deletion
5242:Nevermind, I could've sworn there was still a
4989:If you nominated this page for speedy deletion
4551:(note: I wasn't aware of that overhauling). --
1206:You're right. But it would have been such an
138:{{deletebecause|this page is patent nonsense}}
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4625:(Looking at the linked discussion, I noticed
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8380:Yes, and yes. You can currently try it with
7756:Would this be a legitimate usage of Db-talk?
7329:Suggested change of url parameter for db-g12
7304:Knowledge:BAN#Enforcement_by_reverting_edits
4834:}} Please remove the link from text "on the
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821:has expressed some worries on my talk page (
8512:documentation! I've added the new syntax.
8209:Category:Empty categories awaiting deletion
7254:Interesting question. The documentation at
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7021:Knowledge talk:Criteria for speedy deletion
4254:. Would you like me to go ahead with it? --
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880:Okay, done. If necessary, people could fix
8352:are sitting on a number of category pages.
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5568:Category:History merge for speedy deletion
4435:}} addresses this on a different manner.
4071:Something I'm starting to see a lot of on
2726:Done, also changed the "the" to a "this".
213:I have some reservations about it myself:
9251:explaining why the article should be kept
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4171:them; that would be instruction creep. —
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2304:I don't have any big problem with merely
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8308:Category:Knowledge behavioral guidelines
8243:Well, except that it's not adding it to
7929:Category:Empty pages for speedy deletion
7206:Category:Empty pages for speedy deletion
7204:was recently changed to put articles in
7041:Why delete? Why not just redirect it to
6916:Category:Empty pages for speedy deletion
5793:Should db-g3 have a rationale parameter?
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2675:should not be deleted on its talk page."
2364:I remain confused why you reverted me. -
1514:An easy solution would be to move it to
1141:appropriately. I'll go do that now ...
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7672:in a similar way to the 7-day delay of
7597:Er, that's pretty much exactly what it
5016:If you are not the creator of this page
3547:Knowledge talk:Template standardisation
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7167:I have had success using {{db-g12|url=
5749:Do not edit the contents of this page.
5616:Yuck!! Less is always more: how about
4788:parameter) the same as the reasons in
4572:Fixed Db-g6, same wording as db-reason
4477:The CSD templates have literally only
2671:"and then explain why you believe the
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271:I think this is a fantastic idea. --
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6300:Link db-album to A9 in the dropdown?
5856:Do we honestly really need the main
5730:
4952:
4233:Knowledge talk:CSD#Speed of speedies
4227:to put a link from this template to
4092:Please adjust the logic for self=yes
4007:. 92% and 95% look identical to me.
3908:<div style="font-size: 92%;": -->
2887:Actually, it seems done already. --
2426:Template talk:Db-author#Poor_wording
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1894:
1307:to prevent the templates going into
1091:Alas, the Pandora's Box was opened!
647:Knowledge:Template messages/Deletion
481:Knowledge:Avoid using meta-templates
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8780:. As two of the four templates use
8012:do this, although it may require a
7960:automatically, but that it needs a
5802:this and link to the relevant page.
4999:If you are the creator of this page
4993:{{subst:empty-warn|Title|header=1}}
3264:Please replace the following line:
1721:page. At least it's consistent. --
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9210:As an alternative, some tweaks to
9033:
8044:edit is enough, it doesn't need a
7031:if you disagree with this repeal.
6858:Archiving old template discussions
6245:copyright violations should go to
5108:Knowledge:Village pump (proposals)
5098:Auto hide text on post of template
4967:This page is being considered for
3588:, it looks like they're on it. --
2748:Please remove the reasonlink stuff
2499:, and any revisions of CSD before
2035:
1912:
1825:doesn't match any db-whatever. --
1458:, the article does not wind up in
1353:in the db-reason metatemplate. //
24:
9419:
8172:template could do something like:
6910:was only putting categories into
6658:I suggest you rather ask this at
6643:to normal operations. Thanks. --
6001:There's an ongoing discussion at
5104:Knowledge talk:Copyright problems
5102:A discussion has been ongoing at
710:We can use the approach found in
9026:This page may meet Knowledge’s
7309:a case-by-case basis what to do.
6984:
6163:
6050:
5734:
5409:
4957:
4921:
4697:
4468:
4231:. I suggest discussing this at
4135:That's not necessarily true. In
4097:
4003:Sorry for the delay. Here's the
3463:
3301:
3190:
2999:
112:Knowledge:Templates for deletion
29:
9072:help writing your first article
7774:page, so are impermissible for
7371:Hi. :) What's the rationale? --
7074:MediaWiki:Deletereason-dropdown
6415:MediaWiki:Deletereason-dropdown
5472:(or something of the sorts) ? –
5198:I've removed it. It was added
4790:MediaWiki:Deletereason-dropdown
4734:MediaWiki:Deletereason-dropdown
4338:Wrong parameter on user message
3942:This page may meet Knowledge’s
3930:This page may meet Knowledge’s
3918:This page may meet Knowledge’s
3644:. I'd suggest creating a new "
2428:; using this template like so:
1323:doing another round of editing
1103:being incorrectly categorized.
643:Knowledge:Template messages/All
9264:{{#ifexist:Talk:{{PAGENAME}}}}
7880:Why? It's not doing any harm.
7760:Would it be legitimate to use
6845:Chris Cunningham (not at work)
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3731:I've gone ahead and changed {{
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3048:show {{hangon|tp=1}} when the
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633:18:13, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
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8460:08:22, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
8390:, which is supposed to be in
8330:Category:Requests for unblock
8075:Category:Requests for unblock
7825:This page was last edited by…
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6929:05:29, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
6891:22:17, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
6874:21:51, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
6813:I reverted a change at Db-g4
6795:13:15, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
6781:07:39, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
6767:00:04, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
6753:23:18, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
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186:. ] 21:25, 12 Sep 2004 (UTC)
9028:criteria for speedy deletion
7920:{{ #ifexpr:{{#time:U}} : -->
7543:16:08, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
7520:Yeah, something like that.
7516:15:38, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
7507:15:09, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
7465:02:57, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
7446:01:59, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
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6275:13:13, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
6259:11:08, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
6232:06:44, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
6098:13:00, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
5887:mostly harmless: tagging an
5846:13:03, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
5360:03:51, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
4976:criteria for speedy deletion
4592:haven't been blocked for it
4505:) and "deletion, as it..." (
4380:. As a copyright violation,
4273:00:35, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
4259:15:08, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
4245:00:44, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
4203:15:37, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
4158:03:49, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
4144:02:19, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
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3944:criteria for speedy deletion
3932:criteria for speedy deletion
3920:criteria for speedy deletion
2598:02:03, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
2578:01:57, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
2564:19:46, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
2122:07:11, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
2024:criteria for speedy deletion
1999:07:11, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
1904:criteria for speedy deletion
1690:09:34, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
1662:Problem with these templates
1038:Some remaining issues are:
7:
9289:". Or something like that.
8735:in a day or two. Cheers.
6196:08:19, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
6158:05:31, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
6084:15:17, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
5956:Move-protect the templates?
5726:08:29, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
5705:23:01, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
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5513:15:54, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
5490:15:50, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
5328:14:30, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
5106:as well as being posted at
5024:, please remember to check
5022:If you are an administrator
3873:As of a few minutes ago, {{
3216:not categorized. Cheers. --
2520:, please remember to check
2462:13:31, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
2449:05:28, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
2419:04:24, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
2388:is currently equivalent to
2241:22:33, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
1101:Knowledge:Template messages
907:Knowledge:Template messages
905:This not just an issue for
882:Knowledge:Template messages
864:Knowledge:Template messages
862:The unwanted appearance of
535:03:56, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
519:20:40, August 9, 2005 (UTC)
387:13:29, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
106:-- this template itself is
98:Do not delete this template
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7795:16:20, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
7750:03:15, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
7725:02:43, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
7635:article, which requires a
6711:tagging pages for speedy.
6562:, then feel free to do so.
5448:18:36, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
5434:13:45, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
5204:Perhaps adding it to just
4497:), "deletion. It was..." (
4281:Proposal to update db-meta
4095:
3883:Template talk:Db-histmerge
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1768:06:46, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
1679:Template talk talk:Db-meta
1108:MediaWiki feature requests
956:No, because (for example)
775:(Ah yes, but such an evil
496:18:50, 9 August 2005 (UTC)
474:17:23, 9 August 2005 (UTC)
432:22:54, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
319:05:53, Sep 13, 2004 (UTC)
297:m:Extended template syntax
254:m:Help:Template#Parameters
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8980:03:17, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
8975:Should be fixed now. ---
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7263:parameter. When I tagged
6706:External link in template
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4886:should be undone because
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4106:This template is used in
3910:, with the edit summary "
3768:a complete redesign of {{
3705:User:ProtectionBot/Delete
3658:User:ProtectionBot/Delete
3654:speedy deletion templates
3319:20:27, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
3296:23:31, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
3248:15:30, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
3104:07:57, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
2925:Db-meta suggests putting
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2250:The tag currently says: "
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2143:01:12, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
1830:00:36, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
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1535:everyone else agrees. //
1471:It really is a pity that
1110:rather than kludging" :)
401:I moved this template to
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7577:It should probably read
7212:, but often do not lack
7147:db-g12 and multiple URLs
5685:check transclusions: -->
5202:and stuck around since.
5142:20:41, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
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4840:Knowledge:User talk page
4826:unlink WP:User talk page
4814:22:25, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
4797:20:30, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
4778:20:14, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
4756:16:18, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
4424:, to be fucking honest.
4390:speedy deletion criteria
4358:speedy deletion criteria
3402:template standardisation
3221:22:47, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
3203:03:12, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
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8642:Template:nn-warn-reason
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8111:should currently be in
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4861:isn't too helpful. ---
4384:appears to qualify for
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3946:. The given reason is:
3934:. The given reason is:
3922:. The given reason is:
2878:Where should it go? --
2407:Template_talk:Db-author
1855:Thanks! And it's been
143:{{db|unused user page}}
9349:
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9014:
8465:updating documentation
6112:Someone recently used
6108:Content of G3 template
6029:Edit protected request
5147:Nonsense Vs. Vandalism
4370:instead of like this:
4067:Authors blanking pages
3772:}} that doesn't use {{
3629:needs to be done to {{
3014:13:52, 24 April 2007 (
2642:, what's the point???
2435:
2164:I've only fixed it in
2067:Administrators: check
1944:Administrators: check
192:Template:deletebecause
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9243:
9002:
8931:Editprotected request
8877:to allow them to use
7700:Notification template
7637:neutral point of view
6934:I stuck it inside of
6785:Much better, cheers--
6585:already redirects to
5897:blanked by its author
5893:non-notable biography
5747:of past discussions.
5200:back in February 2007
4644:"Summarily shot down"
3325:Editprotected request
3074:Resolved. Thanks to
2918:Hangon and talk pages
2631:Why does it say this?
2622:Now on editor review!
2616:deleting the page? --
2429:
2246:Removing a speedy tag
2153:William Allen Simpson
1870:William Allen Simpson
178:be a replacement for
42:of past discussions.
18:Template talk:Db-meta
8804:need to be changed.
8014:request for approval
7903:Suggestion for Db-c1
7838:<includeonly: -->
6824:look at them? :D ).
5546:Also, I don't think
5303:. Comments, please.
5288:I propose to change
4378:http://wikipedia.org
3877:}} no longer uses {{
3844:Okay, sorry, then I
2483:, remember to check
2474:I'd like to change:
1885:Usage broken w/links
1711:18:17, 10 March 2006
978:exactly the same way
467:as mentioned above.
158:Template talk:Delete
125:Why this page exists
8822:sounds good to me.
8610:That works for me.
7479:So, something like
7333:I'd like to change
7177:Steamroller Assault
7072:Harmonization with
6556:Template:Db-sandbox
6226:CambridgeBayWeather
5662:My point was that,
4310:km:Template:Db-meta
3210:Template:Db-userreq
2922:{{editprotected}}
2604:Minor wording tweak
2352:don't disagree with
2312:One problem is the
2215:Consumed Crustacean
217:m:Instruction creep
150:Original discussion
9163:Looks good to me.
9103:Consider checking
7137:
7094:
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6419:MediaWiki:Sysop.js
6237:I9 requiring a URL
5882:While it probably
4730:MediaWiki:Sysop.js
4724:Prefilled wpReason
3112:Regarding "Hangon"
2965:speedy templates.
2167:Template:Db-reason
1735:Please do not use
194:. Example usages:
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9312:Just noting, but
9306:
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9284:purging this page
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8990:People often add
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7658:Suggestion for C1
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7015:Deletion of db-t1
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5753:current talk page
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4312:to the bottom. --
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