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Hey, this is direct from an interview with Karl Rove on 3/9/08 at the
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I found the original 2003 Washington Post article and updated the reference. The old link was dead. I think it should be noted that most of the information regarding this group is based on conjecture or unverified sources since most of the articles related to this group seem to return to this Post
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Your sources do not prove your point. Just like on the dozen or so other articles you've disrupted in the last 24 hours with these cites, they do not substantiate your point. The lack of logic on your part has been made clear, and you simply move to another article, and repeat the process, never
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This page has POV problems. Referring to these folks as the "marketing arm" responsible for "selling" the Iraq War. This makes the WHIG sound as though they are a bunch of shoe salesmen or partisian hacks. It would be better to say the WHIG was responsible for stating the case for the war or
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