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170: 202: 364:'Yep, like rotten eggs. It's the smell of gas dispersing.' He broke off more chunks and handed them round. 'The dark threads in the ice are seams of sediment. In a few seconds there'll be nothing left but a few specks of dirt and a puddle of water. The ice melts and the molecules of methane are released from their cages to escape into the air. Or, to put that in context, an apparently stable piece of seabed disintegrates, leaving almost nothing behind. That was what I wanted to show you.' 80: 53: 22: 90: 323:
The article says "methane is described as having a strong smell, when in fact it is odourless". However, it was not directly told that methane is smelly, but the gas that evaporates from the natural methane clathrate. It might refer to trace amounts of hydrogene sulphide. Could someone confirm that?
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Well, the biology(?) professor (iirc, read that in 2001, I think) explaining about methane hydrates is asked about the smell and says "it's the methane". I only remember because I also noted that it was plain wrong and was disappointed. I dn't think this warrants a discussion of "several factual
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Someone removed my fiction template on the plot summary, so let me explain myself: While the text may (or may) not warrant the template, the summary can clearly be improved. The main problem is that most of it doesn't provide a real-world perspective and is not written in an encyclopaedic style.
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Right. It's Knowledge policy to not use spoiler tags on plot summaries as it should be obvious that they give stuff away. Not only that, but there are bots prowling the site that remove them shortly after they've been added.
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If you don't like my version, please go over the text yourself; the current structuring of it is utterly stupid and the text as a whole appears to be written by a ten-year-old. --
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Besides the concerns expressed in the article, the whole premise of the story seems lifted from George RR Martin's short story "Guardians", part of the "Tuf Voyaging" collection:
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I reviewed the article (my first attempt, so I hope I didn't mess up too badly). IMHO, it really needs better plot summary and perhaps more critcism, parts of the article on
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Could someone insert some spoilerwarnings here? I dont know how to do it, but there are some major plotspoilers here and the reader should be warned...
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errors" - it was that only factual error that I saw and that stuck to my mind, which, I guess, is not bad for a ... what... 900(?) pages long book.
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is in fact Science Fiction dealing as it does with an attack on mankind by an alien species (albeit one from inner space rather than outer space).
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Weather hidrogene sulfide exists or not in methane clathrate, the critism should be rephrased, as it is now a Straw Man Fallacy.
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I've now rewritten the plot completely to be more encyclopaedic. It's still for from perfect and maybe still too long.
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seems to belong here. Infobox is also missing (I will try and work on these, but I want to finish reading the novel)
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I don't disagree re the plot being overly verbose but merging paragraphs into megaparagraphs doesn't improve it.
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It would seem to me to have more similiarities with the Science Fiction of John Wyndham (
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The box out describes the genre of the book as being "Techno Thriller", I'd contend that
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Instead it uses a "teaser" style and especially the first part sounds like a cover text.
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especially) than, for instance, the techno thrillers of Tom Clancy
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