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medalists, and 1 foreign head of state.ā€ Who is this foreign head of state? Iā€™ve scoured both this article and the article listing notable alumni and individuals associated with the university and found no mention of such a person in either. Granted, I didnā€™t verify the others listed in the excerpt either, but I assumed the head of state would be among the most noteworthy. Is this a typographical error? Did someone mix up Ohio State with Oregon State or Oklahoma State? If someone knows this foreign head of stateā€™s identity, please add it to at least one of the articles I mentioned, but preferably both of them. And if so inclined, verify the rest of the list in the excerpt as well. Thank you.
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Universities that could cause confusion? It is my understanding that simply saying ā€œOhio Stateā€ or ā€œOhio State Universityā€ would be clear and unambiguous, thus rendering the additional ā€œTHEā€ superfluous. Even if ā€œtheā€ is included because thatā€™s the full official title, I still donā€™t understand the overemphasis. Could someone add a section to the article explaining this practice? It seems near universal. Thank You.
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specific events in the History section, which doesn't make intuitive sense. Therefore, I suggest we split the History section into "Growth" and "Historical Events" sections which will better separate a general overview of the school's history from the specific historical events people would like to read about vising this article.
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A) The 2016 terrorist attack and 2024 pro-Palestine protests do not make sense being subsections of the Modern Era section, which is very general when it comes to giving an overview of 1980 to the present. Worse, the Vietnam War protest section, being a specific event, is one order higher than other
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In addition the text in the nearby paragraph is no longer up to date. 6. Change "In its 2021 edition, U.S. News & World Report ranked Ohio State as tied for the 17th-best public university in the United States, and tied for 53rd among all national universities." to "In its 2023 edition, U.S. News
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this assertion about 3rd largest comes up twice in the article, once in the lede and once in the body. The link to another article about largest universities places Ohio at fifth place, not third, and the reference to support "third" is a dead link. I did not delete it because it was a dead link, but
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10. Change "The Washington Monthly college rankings, which seek to evaluate colleges' contributions to American society based on factors of social mobility, research and service to the country by their graduates, placed Ohio State 98th among national universities in 2020." to "The Washington Monthly
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In the introductory section of the article, it specifically states, ā€œPast and present alumni and faculty include 6 Nobel Prize laureates, 9 Rhodes Scholars, 7 Churchill Scholars, 1 Fields Medalist, 7 Pulitzer Prizewinners, 64 Goldwater scholars, 7 U.S. senators, 15 U.S. representatives, 104 Olympic
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Iā€™m sure Iā€™m not the only person who has heard the peculiar way students and alumni of OSU refer to their university. They invariably call it ā€œTHE Ohio Stateā€ with an overemphasis on the ā€œTHE,ā€ pronounced like ā€œthee,ā€ as in ā€œMy Country, ā€˜Tis of Theeā€¦ā€ Why do they do this? Are there other Ohio State
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The Morrill Scholarship Program (MSP) is Ohio State's premier diversity/merit scholarship program, rewarding academically talented students who are actively engaged in diversity-based leadership, service and social justice activities. MSP seeks academically talented high school seniors who will
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Ohio State's political science program is ranked among the top programs globally. Considered to be one of the leading departments in the United States, it has played a particularly significant role in the construction and development of the constructivist and realist schools of international
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and two previous solid "Not Moved" decisions. As for common usage, I certainly don't ever say the name with "The" in front of it, and I don't have any recollection of sports fans or reporters (for example) generally doing that. It seems to me this RM is hanging its hat on narrow caveats.
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Ohio State's political science department and faculty have greatly contributed to the construction and development of the constructivist and realist schools of international relations; a 2004 LSE study ranked the program as first among public institutions and fourth overall in the
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You can easily see on that list article that OSU was for every year there, second or third largest. So it is not uncommon to summarize the results of a list article in a place like this. I can edit this to reflect that it is fifth for this past academic year.
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Its groundbreaking deconstructivist architecture has resulted in it being lauded as one of the most important buildings of its generation. Its design has also been criticized as proving less than ideal for many of the art installations it has attempted to
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Well, that highlights some work that needs to done on that list because Pulitzer prize winners are strewn about. I moved Anderson to that section but note the list is not protected so you can edit it if you feel the compulsion to better organize it.Ā :)
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In 2007, Sports Illustrated nicknamed Ohio State's athletic program as being "The Program" due to the unsurpassed facilities, an unparalleled number of men's and women's sports teams and their success, and the financial support of an impressive fan
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8. Change "In its 2021 rankings, Times Higher Education World University Rankings ranked it tied for 80th in the world." to "In its 2024 rankings, Times Higher Education World University Rankings ranked it tied for 99th in the world." source:
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7. Change "The Academic Ranking of World Universities placed Ohio State 42ā€“56 nationally and 101ā€“150 globally for 2020." to "The Academic Ranking of World Universities placed Ohio State 39-51 nationally and 101ā€“150 globally for 2023." source:
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college rankings, which seek to evaluate colleges' contributions to American society based on factors of social mobility, research and service to the country by their graduates, placed Ohio State 61st among national universities in 2023."
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According to the reversions, while the article name should *not* have the "the", in usage in the article it should. I've been able to find the RMs for the first, but not the discussion of the second, could someone please point
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contribute to campus diversity actively engage as advocates and champions of diversity, inclusion, social justice and academic excellence on campus. There are three scholarship levels: prominence, excellence and distinction.
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The discussions are in the archives. I'm not sure exactly what you are looking for. The archives aren't really that long, so looking for any discussion that pertains to using THE in the article lead would be useful.
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as a core portion of its name, hence its trademark filing over "The". For these reasons, I'm not a strong proponent, but I have to give my vote to Support based on my reasoning. I fail to see a stronger argument for
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thanks, but the source you gave is a dead link and doesn't corroborate your claim. That is not really fixing the problem, especially since we have established that the reference, even if findable, is incorrect.
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9. Change "In 2021, QS World University Rankings ranked the university 108th in the world." to "In 2024, QS World University Rankings ranked the university 151st in the world." source:
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He is a political cartoonist that has won a Pulitzer prize. He should be under the Pulitzer Prize winners section rather than entertainment. Thank you for the fast response!
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I disagree. ā€˜THEā€™ should absolutely be in the title name. In fact, I came here to check why it is not. I would like to petition this is changed. Example:
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Nick Anderson is a Pulitzer winning cartoonist that graduated from The Ohio State University, and needs to be added to the Notable People section.
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Table updated except for the source, which I think is part of the template. Going to go look at that, then come have a look at the other stuff.
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Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a
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The answer isn't simply cutting content. That is taking apart the encyclopedia, not building it up. If you find incorrect information,
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article. On the same note, I suggest we make the Vietnam War protests section in this article an excerpt of its description from the
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at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be
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article. Therefore, I suggest we revise the new "Growth" section of this article to consist predominantly of excerpts from the
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The academic rankings listed in the table are out of date. 1. Change ARWU national ranking from 42ā€“56 to 39-51; source:
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Can we nail down what exactly these are referring to, if anything, so that they can be worked on or removed as needed?
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after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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https://www.timeshighereducation.com/world-university-rankings/ohio-state-university-main-campus
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because it is an incorrect reference. I propose deleting the incorrect assertions again. --
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The burden to demonstrate verifiability lies with the editor who adds or restores material
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These are just some of the ones I saw. Some cleanup is warranted to tidy up the article.
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These are significant changes, so before I take action, does anyone second this notion?
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B) There is significant redundancy between the History section of this article and the
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Since no one chimed in on this, I deleted the claim. It was incorrect and unsourced. --
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https://www.forbes.com/colleges/ohio-state-university-columbus/?sh=41d07f5f4561
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Excellent! Thank you. I will see if I can clean up the list a little better.
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Claim that definitely needs a source, which it currently does not ā€”
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JK Simmons is a Buckeyes fan, but he is not an alumnus from OSU.
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article will need to be considered--(I'll keep working on this--
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The current History section of this page is poorly organized:
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of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
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