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Man, I just did an experimental map long time ago because the article needed a quick visionary support in order to explain the geographical context of Misak-ı Milli. Everybody is free to improve my humble work if they have good sources. My intent was to keep this map for a week or two and then, with
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This text or article under the picture claims itself 'something what's not there', pointing out that 'nationalists' wants to claim something, let this come over like someone wants to brute attacks because it wants something. Actually in a gentle hatefully way exposing your own toughts instead of of
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According to the book "Ataturk'un Soylev ve
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Hatay is in it because Atatürk put his life on the table to take it from imperialists. You know, he went to Hatay in 1937 and with his political connections he forced the world to give up Hatay to Turkey. His illness became worse and deadly after this trip and he could live a year or some after it.
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Which organization made this map ? why doesnt it include places where Turks live like
Deliorman/Dobruca (Bulgaria) ? Also Ahiska region which is now in Georgia had a huge Turkish population before they were forced to move to central asia. Not to mention Acara. These regions would be obvious in any
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I created the map above. Please discuss for further improvements. This map is an amateur work which i did in 2 minutes. If there is some missing or some extra territories, please write. After a proper discussion, I can prepare a nice version of this map. See you,
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I am quite sure, that the Misak-i Milli borders include the greek islands, about 12 islands I am definitly sure (Crete, no idea). Whole Cyprus was also ottoman/turkish territory. North Syria and
Armenia was also in the Misak-i Milli. Please correct the map!
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No. The island of Cyprus was not in Misak-ı Millî. It was a
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Why is Hatay province in the map on the left included? That looks strange to me? Any sources? It was incorporated in 1939 into Turkey. Looks like a mistake!
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I think there are some problems with the map. I am not sure whether Cyprus or Sofia is included in boundaries of Misak-ı Milli.--
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Ataturk and mps you know Felah-ı Vatan etc..)Anyway if you say so, we should do so. :)--
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Thanks for the good work. However I am not so sure about Hatay's situation. Do you think we should include it? I read
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So tell us what's the opposite of claiming, that's what the other side is doing to the regions 'on our pact'.
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