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Pliny says there was an 'Alexandropolis' in the region of Nisaia. Not an 'Alexandria'. So calling it 'Alexandria Susia' is essentially ascribing a fictional name to a city that may or may not have existed. Your assumption that it must be Mashad is just as dubious as it being by Nisa. Susia, the Greek
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Susiana was never called Alexandria Charax. Charax was a later name given to the city. Alexandria 'on' Gedrosia is also wrong, it was either called Alexandria in Rhambacia or Alexandria of the Orietai.
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