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This brings up a good point. As modern people, we have to realize that "truths we hold self-evident" weren't in 1915. It was not clear to anyone how to support Finnish nationalism, and both collaboration with Russians and anti-Czarism were seen as valid methods. Jägers saw the former as ineffective.
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The flag in question is indeed older than the "jääkärilippu" (jäger flag) . Siniristilippu (blue cross flag) was used by finnish merchantile ships during the krim war 1854-1856. It was suggested as official flag for finnish grand dutchy at 1863 but the suggestion failed and it remained as half
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There should probably be a separate article about the Jäger movement, as that was the foundation for the volunteers going to Germany from Finland, the Finnish and also Swedish language version seems to cover this in a better way than the current article in English.
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Not entirely sure of where I found the info, but I'd say that the Finnish flag came into being in the late 19th century, and thus predate the Jäger flag. Quite possibly the jäger flag was instead inspired by the design that was agreed upon by the independence
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Furthermore, with Finnish nationalism not fully developed, anti-monarchist liberalism, i.e. anti-Czarism was the motivation for earlier Finnish "activists". This is one point that modern people frequently confuse: "activists" were not modern nationalists. --
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I am suprised that the importance for Germany is mentioned in the beginning of the article, but not the motivations of the volonteers themselves. I have understood that most of them went to Germany only to get training to fight the Russians in Finland (see
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I am not going to edit the article as I do not have good sources. I do not know for sure whether these points are true for a small minority or for a big majority of the people involved, but I think it is important to be aware of them.
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The jäger flag gets its shape from older "suomenkaartinlippu" (finnish guard flag), its colors from the siniristilippu (blue cross flag) and it seal from the old "suomenruhtinaskunnan lippu" (grand dutchy of finlands flag).
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official flag of finnish ships. It passed as official flag in 1918 because the old finnish grand dutcy flag had dark red background and it was assosiated with the finnish civil war losing side and the bolsevik revolution.
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was given their own flag in Libau. The blue and white flag, resembling that of the Finnish Guard, had a blue cross with the lion coat-of-arms in the middle, and Prussian-style eagle emblems in the corners.
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I wonder about the connection between Finland's state flag and the Jäger flag. Was the blue on white cross chosed in reverence of the Jägers, ...or what? :-)
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article says plural is jäger in English. The Finnish word jääkäri has plural forms (jääkärit, jääkäreitä) as has the (definite form of) Swedish jägare. --
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That also brings into question how it is used in english. is it like ninja, where using either ninja, or ninjas for plural is acceptable?
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I don't know about finnish practice, but in german, Jäger is both the singular and plural form. There is no such word as Jägers.
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Like Ruhrjung's quote says, its modeled after the Finnish Guard (Suomen Kaarti) flag, not the national flag. See here:
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The last point might have been important also for many of the farmers on the white side in the
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Would post you the sources but it wouldnt help since they are in finnish.
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http://fi.wikipedia.org/Kuva:Finnish_Guard_Battallion_Flag_Parade.jpg
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