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soon as you start with the physical (sw/hw) you're going too deep. Yes this buzzword is being tapped into like big data, cloud, etc. With the potential rise of connected/smart devices in the home and businesses it is not too feasible to have 'n' applications...a dashboard is more appropriate which abstracts these "things" into their common 'features': monitoring, control and configuration. Not everyone will want an all-in-one solution as is offered by the bigger players.
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Cellular Network technologies, and remain an actively developing research area. However, the IoT will not be composed only of embedded devices, since higher order computing devices will be needed to perform heavier duty tasks (routing, switching, data processing, etc.). Companies such as
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It is my belief that this IS a valid term, however it is being used to describe web-enabled hardware and protocols which are nothing new and have as much in common with IoT as any other sw or hw term. My view is that "Thing" is a logical concept (user, mobile, building, cameras, window, door) and as
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Well, proposals are not facts! I have waited to see if anyone else would do something about the section title. It looks bad, precisely because it is a "proposal" and not a fact. Hence I will rename the section as "Characteristics" and hope that other editors will come along and fill in details, with
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The embedded computing nature of many IoT devices means that low-cost computing platforms are likely to be used. In fact, to minimize the impact of such devices on the environment and energy consumption, low-power radios are likely to be used for connection to the
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The concept of "Internet of Things" is not relevant to individual passive RFID tags, since a passive device is not connected to the
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Let us be realistic about this. RFID tags will not prevent theft, they can be detected hence they can be located and can be subsequently removed. Kidnapping works in the same way, detect where it is, then use a scalpel to remove it. Obviously there is also lined bags which block the weak signal and
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At best this is highly speculative, and at worst complete fantasy. I have read a number of articles on "the internet of things", which vary considerably in how far they go in speculative prediction, but this
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A short text is needed to try to fix the origins of the concept to which the phrase "internet of things" is applicable. I have added a reference to an article with the title "The internet of things" from The
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I am surprised there is not more mention of the networking side and the existing protocols like Zigbee, Jennet etc. Surely this, along with the RF transceivers form the bedrock upon which we can build and IoT environment. Any comments about how this might also link into Augmented Reality?
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This article is really terrible agreed, the intro section is the worst. It takes 8 long rambling paragraphs to basically explain the concept: we will use more internet connected devices in the future. Thats all this is. It shouldn't even have a name. It's what we would assume to happen.
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I edited the "basket of remotes" section to clear out peacock language, weasel words, detailed descriptions of company products, and name-dropping of companies. (Nothing I hate more than Knowledge articles that turn into poorly-written commercials.)
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Yo dawg! This article is even worse then the idea it's trying to explain. This is nothing but a bunch of marketing terms and technobabble which ultimately means nothing. If anyone ever reads this page then please feel encouraged to
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or whatever, go for it... but WOULD ONE OF YOU BUSYBODY ADMINS FOR HEAVEN'S SAKE DELETE THIS CRAP PLEASE! You know you want to. Everyone wants you to. It'll feel good. Just do it. Thanks!
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