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version of this name is also Gelo (compare Plato, Crito, Meno, etc.). Now, in fact, people tend to refer to this guy as Gelon (perhaps "GEE-low" just sounds too weird to some people). I'm guessing the article title here came from 1911 Britannica. Anyway, I like traditional
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It's confusing that the title of this article is Gelo yet throughout the text he is referred to as Gelon. I wouldn't know which of the two versions is more standard but I have only heard of him under the name Gelon. If Gelon is standard, then the page should be moved - if Gelo then it should be
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with a disambiguation header for the city, while the Gelo page becomes a disambiguation page for the Gelao people, the racing team and the tyrant. The pre-existing Gelon page shouldn't be too much of a problem (although I'm not 100% clear on exactly what the procedure should be). Perhaps an
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I think straight Gelon is preferable. To those familiar with Sicily or the classical world in
General will be looking for Gelon for the person and Gela for the place. I think having Gelo as the article name would be like having Ruggero as the article name for Roger of Sicily.
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What is the source for this? The entire section is unsourced but I will still leave it in. Seems like a preposterous conspiracy theory to me that the
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No need to apologize for your bluntness, but your suggestion that Gelo is some kind of "retroactive" "might have" reconstruction is mistaken. It is exactly what I said it is, the
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