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Trees were often (and still are) regarded as sacred in different cultures around the world. I think what has to be shown with reliable sources is a connection between
Cypress tree and Yalda in Persia/Iran and the Christmas tree as that is what the article is about. Connections can however, be ancient
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Great that you are replying. Are we concern about
Renaissance-era only period (14th Century onward)? if so, there are paragraphs about ancient Egyptian and Chinese and Jews. I am sure they are not from that era, and you way want to delete that parts from article. If you are connecting it to The Jesus
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Ohhh James, great that you are here. Because I added paragraph about one specific civilization that is
Persians, that have books and ancient poems and also stone depiction of evergreen trees and symbolizing it as everlasting life and standing against winter coldness and darkness and you delete that!!
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American culture using of evergreen trees are backed to 17th century or Germans back to 15th century. It is of great concern to speak about other civilization that used it as specific ritual and on specific time. please share your Idea about adding older history of Evergreen Trees on Christmas
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It is dark and blurry but there still isn't much better. While it will do for now, we still should be on the look out for better images. Similar to the main
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occasion, he had the candies bent into the shepherd's crooks. In 1847, a German-Swedish immigrant named August Imgard of
Wooster, Ohio decorated a small pine tree with paper ornaments and candy canes."
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or a contemporary overlays of an ancient tradition to the Christmas tree. However, it might be better if you work on finding reliable sources for the Cypress tree and Yalda and add it to the article
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writer who lacks credibility because he does not cite any sources at all. History should not be able to be tampered with and rewritten according to opinion!! Please remove this quote and citation.
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Hey All, I found a source for the claim of August Imgard decorating a pine tree with candy canes on the Candy Cane page, here is a copy below:
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