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rendering of all parts of the uniform, from helmets to stockings. The current jersey could be replaced with a photo from a game, but that may not be an improvement. Keep it around until you get a good one from the game. As for the 'original' logo, the difference from the current one is very small. In fact, you might say it's just how it is rendered, i.e. with an outline. So, I could consider its use to be debatable. Ok, but debatable, because it does reference a fact about it. That said, consider its removal, because it is not a big fact. The "horse-head logo" is more interesting and should, I think be discussed more than it is currently. I suppose it honors the connection to the Stampede/Corral, etc.? I put the FUR in for the image, and I stated it was for commentary, because it doesn't really identify the organization. I suggest more commentary? There is only the image caption and one sentence noting its retirement. With the photo separate from the logo section it is less helpful in understanding its usage. Hopefully this is helpful.
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but that doesn't mean I ignore good or positive things that are being said about them. Rather than just reverting you could have taken out the things you don't agree with OR take it to the talk page, not blatantly revert something that was SOURCED. Although I'll admit that I maybe should have only restored the section I found a reference for and throw up the rest for discussion on the talk page. So we are both in error in terms of behaviour. I do wonder one thing. This article was extensively reviewed for becoming a featured article and the reviewer at the time had no objection to those passages. And I'm sure FA candidates are thoroughly screened for unsourced POV. Which of course doesn't mean it should stay by definition. Perhaps we could get the reviewer's opinion about these passages.--
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accurate statements. As such, I tend to reject his arguments. That being said, while that information might have been beneficial in the lead in 2007 when I added the passage, four years later, the 04 playoff run is falling well back into history. It seems to me that the proper solution is not to lazily take an axe to a lead section, but to update it. That is something I will do shortly, but am open to suggestions as to what other aspects of the team's history are important enough for mention in the lead.
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corporate logos. Anyway, what is a good plan on how to proceed? Would it be to move the old logos to a "History of/Logos of" article? We certainly should be able to find a photo (if not now, soon) of the current jerseys. I made the image of the current jerseys from the NHL's web site, but that was before the 07-08 season. Would a photo of the Calgary Flames display at the HHOF be free, although it would have a logo in it?
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No question that Johnny Gaeudreau and Sean Monahan are core players of the present team. But in the current lineup Elias Lindholm and Mathew Tkachuk are equally important core players. But I would say that the franchise face player that was consistently at the top of the league was Mark Giordano, who
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Well, Calgary is somewhat unique in that the home and road logos are different. The red C is on the road jersies, while the black C is on the home. It would be ideal if an early-80s picture could be had showing off the original logo could be had for that section. I was able to replace the image of
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Well, to be fair to the anti-image cowboys, Knowledge policy on fair use images is much stricter than either US or Canadian copyright laws. In this case, I agree with the consensus that the number of FU images in this article is not in violation of NFCC, but at the same time, I do agree that some of
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It's a bit of a conundrum, isn't it? You could consider Belfast, Northern Ireland to be a city, province format, as North American players are listed as, but that then breaks the naming convention for European born players. Honestly, I'm not worried either way, unless it escelates into an edit war.
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I'd say Darryl Sutter is as much a marker of the "eras" as any player... He was there from 2002-2010 when they were at one of their peaks, and his return last season brought the team up to 1st in the Pacific (and just their second pass to the 2nd round of the playoffs since Sutter lead them there in
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I'd agree with that over current name. Wondering whether we need "eras" to be defined by player names though. Iginla was a special, special case. But even the cup-winning team isn't named as the "Mcdonald era" for instance. Don't have a great idea right now though. Maybe along the lines of "Rebuild
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For the most part, I think UrbanNerd's claims of "peackock terms" are unfounded. Certainly the cited fact that the Prime Minister described the Flames as "Canada's Team" in 2004 is hardly such. And stating the Red mile was "nationally famous" and received "widespread coverage" are both, likewise,
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But that press release does not state the terms of the venture. It could be 100% owned by Concord with them paying a hefty royalty to the Flames, with joint responsibility for marketing. Yes, both companies are involved in Flames Central, but the details of the rights and responsibilities of each
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My understanding was that Flames Central was owned by the Concord Entertainment Group and that they just paid the Calgary Flames a royalty for use of the Flames branding. If there is an ownership in the bar & restaurant by the hockey team, it was inconsequential. Concord owns a bunch of other
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Great comments, I would probably agree with most if not all of this. I was going back an forth on the original logo vs the current logo and the only difference being the black line. That being said, the new logo is an all black C isn't it? So isn't the logo we have in the infobox incorrect? If that
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Since this is the point of some of these review noms, maybe some discussion here on just that topic is warranted. The quality of the article is not the issue. Correct me if I am wrong, but it seems impossible to meet both the FA standards for non-free images, and have articles with illustrations of
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Thanks! And I have to agree with Wafulz. "The Calgary Flames is..." feels gramattically awkward. Maybe it has something to do with the standard of plural nicknames. "The Calgary Flames are..." vs. "The Melbourne Cricket Club is..." and "Manchester United is..." all three seem more correct to me
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The fact it is said about other Canadian teams doesn't make it untrue. It's said, it was in the article before and now is sourced, whether it was actually meant by heart is impossible to tell and irrelevant. The fact that you don't LIKE it is certainly irrelevant. I don't like certain other teams,
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Without any reasonable discussion or contribution from Fasach, it's impossible to be truly constructive. IMHO, after looking at the article, I think the usage of non-free images is okay. I will take a look at the furs for the non-free images and see if it is all in order according to the templates
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Basically, one user is attempting to pass his opinion off as policy, and is not all that happy that this misconception is not supported in reality. Once we get into the exhibition season in a couple weeks, I'll be grabbing a couple pictures of the Flames in action, and will be able to replace the
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The first review is closed and the second review has been deleted. It is disruptive to renominate an article literally minutes after it has been kept. (Just as, for instance, it would be disruptive to renominate at AFD immediately after a closing.) It is clear from the review that editors here are
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As a note, since I mentioned it in the review, I have been wanting to eliminate some of the non-free images anyway, but was waiting on the start of the season to do so. There's only one image on commons using the new jersey, as an example, and it isn't from a good angle. This concern is one that
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article for another source). It's origins have nothing to do with the old Jets, though Winnipeg's white-out was created in 1987 as a response to the C of Red. You are possibly confused because some sources mistakenly claim the white-out was created in 1985 against Calgary. But the timelines in
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Could everyone please leave the infobox be for a bit and start explaining here their rationale why it should be what? This will turn into a revert slugfest otherwise. Once we have consensus what it should be we can change it if necessary (or perhaps the consensus is already there and some editors
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Ok, here are my suggestions after reviewing the furs and non-free images. I don't think there should be any problem with the use of the jerseys ones at all. They contribute significantly to the understanding of the topic and are definitely encyclopedic. The nhluniforms.com images do a complete
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of the team, as everything in that paragraph is beyond the on-ice aspect of the Flames. As far as Flames Central goes, I personally think it is fine for the lead, however if you wish, we can add the info that it is a joint venture with Concord Entertainment in the paragraph discussing Flames
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That is true, but not many do. At any rate, the IfD's were unsuccessful, however as promised, I have begun to replace the FU images where I can. I was able to get several good shots of players in the current uniform design last night, and so have replaced that image with a free equivalent.
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Also, expect this to become a major point of confusion for the next several years, as kids who were born after the breakup of the Soviet Union and Czechoslovakia are starting to turn pro. We're going to have cases where Soviet Union will be used for one player, and Russia for another.
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became as recognized and respected as a franchise player like Iginla. Giordano was a Norris trophy-winning, Messier Leadership award-winning defenceman, multiple-time NHL All Star, with the team for 15 years, the captain for 8 seasons from 2013-2021 directly following Jarome Iginla...
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current jersey image with a free use replacement. I should be able to replace the original jersey set as well, since that is part of the NHL's vintage line. In the meantime, the article is fine the way it is, as the non-free images are relevant to the sections discussing them.
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Other teams change the color of the logo, e.g. Rangers. This was more common in the past, e.g. Stars. I had not really noticed that about the Calgary logo. The design is the same, just colouring. I guess use the one most often used to identify the organization (letterhead?).
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Agreed. IMHO, there are a lot of anti-image cowboys on Knowledge with a threadbare handle on copyright law who just yearn to chop down anything anytime the policy language shifts; just to pick on the worst offender, if I was Jimbo, I would've shut down Betacommandbot a
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The C of Red dates back to at least 1985 versus the Jets in the playoffs, and possibly before that.Its origins were certainly not in 1986. I would be curious to see if any fan could provide a reference to the C of Red pre-1985, but I am certain it existed before 1986.
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perfectly willing to discuss image issues and to replace things if the need arises. And it is also clear that editors are extremely exasperated by your editing without discussion, Fasach. I suggest that you list your image issues and allow for reasonable discussion.
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As far as the lead goes, it's a moot argument. I don't think the wording used was peacock by any stretch of the imagination, bit it was seven years ago, so in terms of history, is not as important today as it was four years ago. As such, I've reworked the lead.
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the Atlanta Flames logo with a similar solution previously. I did send an email to the Flames, but never got a response. As far as the flaming horse goes, it was introduced in 1999 to celebrate the Year of the Cowboy in Calgary. I'll look to add more on that.
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I'm suprised to see no mention of the "Go flames go" chant that became the teams tradmark during there 2004 playoff run. I don't know enogh about it to add it in or where it would go but i hope someone else can. Some refs that should be of help
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This look good. I merged a small paragraph; small paragraphs kinda break the flow of the article. I think it is appropriate to send to FAC, but I still have my reservations on criterion 1a. But I think that's probably me being overly nitpicky.
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For starters statements like the the 04' playoff run "captured the imaginations of Canadians", and the red mile "became nationally famous" while you claim are accurate statements are uncited, POV, and peacock terms. They must be removed.
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A person's birthplace is the country as it was when they were born. Changing it to reflect modern changes in borders or political divisions introduces errors as it is anacrhonistic to change. You will note, however, that the
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party do not appear to be public. Actually, while we are discussing that paragraph, why would ownership in another hockey team need to be preceded by the phrase, "Off the ice"? The Hitmen also play their games on ice. --
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Emphasized by articles like this one (, the Giordano era began in the wake of the Iginla era, and the Flames are now entering a new era which is loosely defined by its star forwards, but clearly needs time to settle.
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I think a change in the wording to include Concord is appropriate. Although it is clear that the Flames have some type of interest, the current wording implies more ownership than can be verified. --
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Northern Ireland is in fact a constituent country of the United Kingdom. It is as much a country as England is, so I don't think there is any problem with Nolans birthplace being Northern Ireland.
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OTRS received an email noting that Miikka Kiprusoff should be included on the roster. I don't feel comfortable editing the roster myself, so I am posting here, and to one of the editors.--
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At this point, the best way to address any problems with 1a is to throw the article at the wolves and see what comes out of it. PR and GA review are done, this is the next logical step.
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The phrase does not need to be preceded with "Off the ice", however I added it to indicate a transition from the on-ice details of the Flames history and the off-ice details of the
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Fasach is attaching. (I know, I know, it has passed FA.) I don't have a significant role in editing this article so I hope my comments will be acceptable. A lame edit war is lame.
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I propose to change the heading "Johnny Gaudreau/Sean Monahan era (2014–present)" to "Mark Giordano era (2013-2021)", and maybe reconsider some of the emphasis on the text within
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Yup, probably should have linked them here. I linked them at the project page but they probably got lost in all the talk that went on at that page today. -
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behind his arguements. This many logo pictures on a page is quite common and I think Resolute's plans are more than adequate to deal with the situation. -
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Not exactly sure what you think should be cleaned up. All that is on the list is dead external links, but thats not a reason to de-feature an article. -
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a professional" rather jumped out at me. This may be a cross channel grammar difference, but it just looks and sounds wrong. "is" works better for me.
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Until now I don't think I ever realized we tend to pluralize our nicknames in most cases, whereas british soccer clubs don't. (ie Flames vs. United) -
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He was on the roster. Looks like someone edited the roster incorrectly and it was commented out. Surprised someone went to OTRS to have that added. -
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Yes they play their games on ice, but its not the players on the ice that own the hitmen. Its the ownership group off the ice that owns the Hitmen. -
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I sure got a quizzy feeling in my guizzard about this. I'm thinking of the dispute that took place at that NHL statistics leader by country article.
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Soviet countries' players listed as Soviet Union? Shouldn't these be changed to their individual countries since there is no Soviet Union anymore?
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after the link to keep me from modifying it, if I keep adding bad data, but formatting bugs should be reported instead. Alternatively, you can add
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So, everything talking about ownership in the article should be prefaced with "Off the ice" because the ownership group is not the players? --
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I'll keep an eye on it for awhile. If things get intense (edit warring or heated discussion), I'll let the pro-Northern Ireland gang win out.
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With that in mind, perhaps remove the "end of Iginla era" part from 2011-2013 and merge the two subsections to something along the lines of
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places like The Whiskey, Mercury, Bass Bros, etc. I did a quick search, and I can't find anything to back this up (or prove otherwise). --
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It's just one of those things that is always going to happen. It should be UK, but I don't get too worked up about it if it changes. -
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I'm not overly enthusiastic about having "era" sections/sub-sections in NHL pages, either. Particularly if it's about players who
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I weren't looking to stir an edit-war. I assumed by clarifying the 'regular season' & 'playoff' difference was required.
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Yes, you kind of said that immediately below, and as is typical, failed to even read what I wrote before you responded.
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Really there is no issue, only one user has had a issue with this particular page, and part of me feels there is a
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2004). Not to say "Post-Sutter era", just saying that the players being the face doesn't really define the epoch.
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We're all familiar with the United Kingdom's (IMHO) multiple identity crises. Seeing as in the Current Roster
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the 1988-89 roster, clearly show MacDonald & Peplinski as captains & Hunter as an alternate captain.
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Nope. The C of Red dates to the 1986 playoffs against the Edmonton Oilers. (See the final paragraph of the
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I'm curious - if the team was just called "Calgary", would you say "Calgary plays at" or Calgary play at"?
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Well, you edit conflicted over me, heh. I've replaced the non-newspaper dead links with live references.
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Rhett Warrener has been placed on waivers; but he hasn't been claimed (yet). He's still a Calgary Flame.
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The word era somewhat suggests that a certain distinguishing character or trait marks that time period.
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Could have put this on any team page, but why are Russia, Ukraine and other
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It is very definitely a joint venture, as per their own press releases:
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all reports on game from the 2004 playoffs that mention the chant.
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This is proper Canadian grammar. You're the weird ones to us ;-).-
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Me too. "Calgary plays at..." or "The Flames play at...".
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