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dans l'ouvrage de Michel Goubet sur la Résistance en Haute- Garonne. Peut être pourriez-vous contacter le Centre Jean Moulin à Bordeaux pour poursuivre vos recherches ? Cordialement, Conseil Départemental de la Haute-Garonne Musée départemental de la Résistance et de la Déportation 52 allée des demoiselles 31400 TOULOUSE ————— Van: *** Verzonden: dinsdag 30 juni 2015 13:31 Aan: musee-resistance Onderwerp: M. Delplanque ou Delplangue probablement surnommé Dumas Cher Monsieur, Madame, Je cherche tous les informations concernant M. Delplanque ou Delplangue probablement surnommé Dumas. M. Delplanque ou Delplangue était (selon le Knowledge) un de commandants de maquis en région de Toulouse et a participé a la libération de Bordeaux. Cordialement, ***
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that you are claiming lack of notability. The {{hoax}} template you keep adding is not to be used for this purpose; there are notability templates you should be using instead. As for the continued claim of this as a hoax, where are the reliable source stating this? I have no problem with such a section or discussion saying some have said this may just be propaganda (such as at the Zaitsev article); however,
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tag adds nothing to that. The lead makes clear the existence of the controversy. Given that, we no more need a hoax tag here than we do on the articles for figures from the scriptures of various religions. That isn't to say that the content after the lead couldn't prefix assertions with "According to
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OK, so, on the other three medals, I agree, the third medal (after the Insigne des blessés militaires and the Croix de guerre) would appear to be the "Croix des services militaires volontaires" (indented cross on a blue ribbon with one broad red stripe) although, like with the other three, the ribbon
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I was in this museum and took the photos of these medals. The Médaille militaire is not in the museum. We can see it only in old photos. The son of Ahmadiyya Jabrayilov, Javanshir Jabrayilov, who is the director of his house-museum said to me that this medal was taken from Jabrayilov during his visit
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Now, there is a photo which purports to show him (well, someone) with the Médaille militaire, and Croix de guerre, a medal I can't identify, a Croix du combatant, and one more, and another photo appears to add the Insigne des blessés militaires after the Croix de guerre. These photos appear to have
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I can't identify the third medal (cross pattée with the ends of the arms indented), or the fifth one (round bronze medal with several figures), or the sixth (crossed swords and ?rope with helmet), but other photos (below) suggest they are supposed to be the "Croix des services militaires volontaires
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Most of the "facts" in the article are false. This means it is a hoax. I am not sure how I can be more clear. It does not immediately mean that the article needs to be deleted (though I personally voted delete), but if it is kept it should be completely re-written portraying the subject as a product
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I wasn't aware it had been decided it was a hoax. Why are you stating this is a hoax if you have no opinion? As for the notability, you have seen the large number of sources at the Russian article (some of which have been added here) and you are capable of understanding them, so it is bizarre to me
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hoax}} is for articles on invented subjects with no reliable sources confirming their existence. Jabrayilov has extensive reliable sources and meets every criteria for notability; We are not here to decide the "truthfulness" of history or do investigative journalism; we create articles based on what
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I am generally not a fan of taking Armenian articles about Azeris seriuosly, but since I participated in the development of this one in real time, I am inclined to agree. Whereas the person with this name apparently existed and even participated in the French resistance, most of what was ascribed to
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You have apparently read the Russian deletion discussion. They clearly demonstrated this is a hoax - a completely made up bio which was then taken by state propaganda. They also found that reliable French sources do not exist. The only remaining question is whether this is sufficient or not to keep
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Van: musee-resistance Verzonden: dinsdag 30 juni 2015 15:49 Aan: *** Onderwerp: RE:M. Delplanque ou Delplangue probablement surnommé Dumas Bonjour, Après consultation de notre fonds d'archives, nous ne conservons pas de documents sur cette personne. Elle n'est pas non plus référencée
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tag on this article, as it is not a hoax in the Knowledge sense. Hoaxes on Knowledge are things that do not exist and were made up by the editor, with the intent to deceive our readers. This person seems to have coverage, and actual sources discuss him. Now it is likely that he was made up by the
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I am sorry, but since there is no freedom of panorama in Azerbaijan (and also not in France), most of the photos are of copyrighted material. I will eventually nominate them for deletion on Commons whatever is the POV they are intended to prove in this article. Pls try to use free pictures where
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Thanks for all of that. Just sticking to the medals, if they were awarded as claimed, then surely there would be a record in France under at least one version of one of his possible names. Is there no French official record or database that can be searched online? For recipients of significant
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to him. Also Javanshir Jabrayilov gave me all scans of the documents and photographs of Ahmadiyya Jabrayilov. During the research of Knowledge users we identify some unclear moments in the biography of Jabrayilov. But it doesn't means that all biography of Jabrayilov is "Soviet-era hoax". It is
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I apologize for removing the tag in the absence of a clear consensus, but I did so because the AFD being closed as keep seems to have made clear that this was not a hoax, because if it had been a hoax the AFD would have been closed as delete. Clearly there is a concern that this person, though
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You are welcome to try to place HOAX tags on the source material if you can find a way to do that. Please explain how you know that whoever added the picture here did so as a hoax rather than by relying in good faith on source material that you claim to be a hoax. Again, the HOAX tag
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notable, may not have existed in the way the "reliable" sources that establish their notability claim. So of course the controversy surrounding the historical accuracy of these sources needs to be detailed to the extent that said controversy is also described in such sources.
1911:Ну конечно, без них Семиряга с его героическим штурмом Бордо, которого никогда не было, считался бы надежным источником, но армяне дискредитировали. ))) Ну да ладно, информация есть, остальное неважно. Надо вечером ещё этого нового политолога внести для полноты картины. 4636:
If an article contains misinformation that an editor added in good faith not realizing that the source was a hoax, that doesn't make the article or the contribution to it a hoax. It just means it's false, and that you are aware of the origin of that false information
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In fact, we are dealing with an article where the text about a real character and a fictional character is mixed (but we do not have authoritative sources to clearly distinguish one from another). If you think that it is legitimate to replace the template
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possible, upload those which are absolutely needed here as a fair use, or, even better, convince the government of Azerbaijan to introduce freedom of panorama (this will not save the newspapers, but will save the monument and possibly the house-museum).--
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There is several reliable independent sources about his awards. According to G. Mekhtiyev (Мехтиев, Г. Г. За социалистическую Родину // Вечно живые традиции — Б. : Азернешр, 1968.) Ahmadiyya Jabrayilov was awarded with 8 awards of France. Accoding to
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Soviets for propaganda, but in that case, the coverage is still relevant. So while that makes it a Soviet hoax, it is not a Knowledge hoax. I have removed the tag, as it was cluttering the hoax category and put the article in danger of deletion.
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Now, this could be a cock-up rather than a conspiracy. Has the museum just got it wrong, and hung French medals on ?Russian ribbons? But surely there would be some records in France, if he had been awarded these medals? Colour me sceptical.
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has always been yellow with green edges. There is no such ribbon here. The form of the medal has changed slightly over time, but has always been a circular medallion hanging from a device, and does not match any of those in the image above.
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As I said above, in this case the problem with the sources is so serious that the number of problems turns into a qualitatively different problem. In fact, the article mixes the real person and the fictional character of Soviet mythology.
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until otherwise substantively proven. The fact that you said something during the nomination, what you will do if the nomination result would be keep does not mean that you have obtained the legitimacy of such an action. I already
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This is not a discussion, and in another encyclopedia it may be written "the article was deleted from Knowledge" - this is confirmed by sources, the presence of which indicate the significance of the fact. Please return the
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Translation issues introduced by people more zealous than educated in foreign languages make this story even more confusing if not ridiculous. The "Poppies squad" makes absolutely no sense, but only if you don't know that
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So, just to be clear, are we relying on the word of the family (and their presence in the museum, and the old photos of unknown provenance) that these medals were awarded? Are there any reliable independent sources?
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a hoax. Tagging an article as a hoax corresponds to warning a user for posting hoaxes to Knowledge. That would be appropriate only if you had sufficient grounds to accuse the user of posting false information
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in French "Sud Ouest" newspaper, where we can also see a photo of Jabrayilov. We cannot ignore these facts. We also cannot ignore the fact of the presence of French awards of Jabrayilov in his house-museum
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which is not reliable and notable, of course. And of course it is normal to receive such medals after death. There are a lot of examples when such awards were dedicated after death of the person (e.g.
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the answer of the archives of the Tarn and Garonne department (according to legend, Jebrailov joined the Resistance): “It is not mentioned, it does not appear in the list of awarded Resistance medals”
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These considerations are not valid for articles on religious topics, since their mythological nature follows from the subject, which is not in this case (a military figure is not a prophet).·
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tactics, and I just did not understand your position very well due to the fact that English is not native to me. For example I don't see much the difference between hoax and mystification.·
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Not all analogies apply to all situations, and your text contains direct logical errors. However, in Russian criminal law there is a practice of absorbing a longer term with a shorter one.·
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do not reflect the truth, I wrote why above. There is no such consensus, and this is reflected in the text of the article, in section "Criticism of biographies". I hope that it is not
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may be a Soviet propaganda creation. The English Knowledge article discusses him as a real person, but every single one of the cited sources is in Russian. (copied from wt:milhist)
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What you added is a blog. I suspect reliable French sources about this person do not exist. And please do not remove the template until the talk page discussion has been finished.--
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I can't read the Russian, Armenian or Azerbaijani sources. Do they identify the French medals he is meant to have been awarded in the row of six in the image to the right?
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how really participants of Resistance (Rene Chambar, Louis Lasbareilles etc.) greet him. We can see how they visited memorial for Soviet victims. This visit was also
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Please stop adding the hoax template. Even if this person was a product of Soviet propaganda, that does not mean this article should be deleted as hoax. <s: -->
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The problem with Jabrayilov is that no single French reliable source has ever been found. Most likely, they do not exist. We are relying on words of the family.--
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to Moscow in 1966. The ribbons are different because, according to Javanshir Jabrayilov, the original ribbons were very old and were replaced with other ones. So
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and the accuracy of the sources. They are not the same. This article reflects published sources on Jabrayilov, while the criticism is almost entirely based on
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there was no Ahmadiyya Jabrayilov mentioned either in the archives of the French guerillas of Tarn-et-Garonne or in the list of the Resistance medal receivers
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This really doesn't matter. We are not Internet sleuths. It very well be that Jabrayilov's life is complete propaganda, but propaganda is not the same as
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I changed Jabrayilov's year of birth to 1899. I have no source for this, but I doubt that this man died at one year of age, after having fought in the
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Knowledge has plenty of articles about real-world hoaxes. The articles about those hoaxes are not, themselves, hoaxes, and are therefore not tagged as
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No need to charge me with accusations of Knowledge participants in the preparation of hoaxes. I think I clearly say that the source of this hoax is
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Also the picture of the newspaper; in addition, the PD-France photos are highly doubtful, and I am not sure they would survive AfD on Commons.--
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normal that there are many unclear moments in the events of World War II. But during the discussion we confirmed that Ahmadiyya Jabrayilov
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I see only two possibly unfree photos concerning freedom of panorama (the monument and house-museum), this is not "most of the photos".
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Can someone enquire of the museum staff where the ribbons came from? One of the ribbons (broad red and yellow stripes) resembles this:
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as far as I can see. This is just an article about a hoax. It might be a notable hoax or not notable, I have no opinion on this point.--
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Judging by the fact that you are not deleting the mention of Knowledge in the "Criticism of biographies" section, you agree with me.·
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Yep. Besides, Knowledge should rely on published material and while those scans might be acceptable on good faith, they may approach
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in Russian is spelled "Маки́" which is also plural for "Мак" (although with different accent, "Ма́ки") which is Russian word for
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Well, the first medal in the row - red star with gold sunburst "halo" - looks like a Russian medal but appears to be the French
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Also, do we know why the Médaille militaire was taken away in 1966, and why was he left with the other medals at that time?
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I added a French source. I will add more stritcly French sources later if people are going to keep claiming this is a hoax.
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In addition to the ribbons (and in one case the medal) being wrong, I think they are also displayed in the wrong order.
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and related articles on Knowledge. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
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Insigne des blessés militaires, Croix de guerre and Croix des services militaires volontaires of Ahmadiyya Jabrayilov
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In English and French books, there is no word about the "celebrated Azerbaijani activist of the French Resistance".
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As I understand, this official document proves that Jabrayilov was a member of Resistance and was awarded a medal.
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There are several spellings of his name in Latin alphabet and aliases also, so this answer is not comprehensive
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accounts" or something to that effect, to emphasize that Knowledge isn't coming down on one side or the other.
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Médaille Société des Volontaires and Médaille du Titre de Reconnaissance de la Nation of Ahmadiyya Jabrayilov
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I read over and over in both deletion discussions the conviction that this is not a hoax. There's already a
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There is no Médaille militaire there at all, and I can't find any French medals with those ribbons either.
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According to Russian sources, he fought in the group of Captain Delplangue. Letter from Russian Knowledge
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Article about Azerbaijani hero of Great Patriotic War deleted from Knowledge due to contradicting sources
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For the fifth and sixth medals, here is an example of the "Médaille Société des Volontaires 14-18 39-45"
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is reported by reliable sources. There are many articles on hoaxes or propaganda - see the article on
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flower. So it's about a French Resistance squad, not some fictitious "Poppies squad". A "memorable
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First, Medusa said it general about the awards. Second, according to the context it was "dubious"
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where it says, of course, not about a full-fledged historical study, but about a letter, yes: «
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Relying on published sources about Jabrayilov is not an attempt to trick and is inline with
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A hoax is an attempt to trick an audience into believing that something false is real.
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to correct any errors in that regard. Unclear issues could be discussed further.
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Also, if he died in 2000 then why is this article categorized under 1994 deaths?
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doesn't mean "the source material is a hoax" but that "the article is a hoax".
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Medal for civilian prisoners, deportees and hostages of the 1914-1918 Great War
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we can see only in the historical photos, which Jabrayilov brought from France
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The second medal with cross pattée and crossed swords appears to be a French
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of some Knowledge users. I also took part in that discussion. Also I visited
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then you may need to upload it to Knowledge (Commons does not allow fair use)
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OK. But I removed Armenian media due to misinformation about facts from the
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him in the Soviet sources user for creation of this article is a fake.--
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Nevertheless, one can find something about Capitaine Delplanque here :
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Looks like the article was vandalized before you edited it. Fixed now.
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column on 1 February 2009, and was viewed approximately 1,088 times (
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It's a myth. This article was deleted in Russian Knowledge (see:
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French medals on the military uniform of Ahmadiyya Jabrayilov
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If so, all of the medals and ribbons appear to be wrong.
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Who said that there was no decoration certificate? --
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