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human computers. In Star Cruiser (the system for space battles), a Kafer ship can usually out-fight a human ship of the same class. I know of no text in any of the books that calls Kafer technology more mass-produced than human technology. However, Kafer technology is sturdy, rugged, reliable and big by human standards -similar to the cliched image of Soviet military technology. This is because Kafers are larger and stronger and prone to hitting their equipment to make it "smarter". I believe the guys at GDW know Soviet military technology far too well to make such a crude and unfair analogy. These are the guys that wrote Twilight 2000 and many wargames featuring Soviet technology.
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in the Klingons. GDW succeeded in making the Kafers a truly alien race similar to no earthly nation. Considering the normal SciFi-"Humans in Funny Suits"-approach to aliens that leads to about every alien race to be found somewhere in cultural history (Mongols, Imperial Japan, Korea, Zulu...), this
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I find this hard to agree with. The deathsled hovertank is at least on par with the most modern human hovertanks in the game. Similarly, the Behemoth is superiour to human main battle tanks. The thud gun is superior to human assault rifles. Thanks to the Ylii Kafer computer technolgy is superior to
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in German is the "VW Käfer" (abbrevation spoken, "Vau Weh Käfer" - please don't try to pronounce that in English), which makes it IMO rather obvious where the name comes from (in the pre-Internet times, it was still quite easy to get a translation of "Beetle" due to the car). I think the wrong
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I'd have to agree... I can see, perhaps, some superficial comparability to commonly perceived (in the west) soviet "mindset", perhaps as a selling point or to make the Kafer more "accessible" to the market's imagination... But, if anything, I'd say the technological superiority early on was a
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The article says: "There is also (seemingly) a leaning toward Kafers being analogous to the Soviet juggernaut, with technology that is less technologically sophisticated than the West but mass-produced and effective."
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I noticed that the title "2300 AD" of this article does not conform to Knowledge standards in that, as the title of a stand-alone work, it should be italicized. I don't know how to fix that by editing the article.
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and Kafers. All those "evil empires" were IMO modeled a bit after the then-conception of the Soviet empire, but used also other pictoresque concepts, like
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is a German "Wanze" (although the english word may refer to a broader spectrum of insects). A "Käfer" is a
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storyline means of of both challenge and motivation for the players and the "humans" as a story element.
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I think the similarity between Soviets and Kafers are less than between
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translation indeed comes from Heinlein's "Starship Troopers". --
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