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at the end of each trip. An alternative explanation for the discontinuation of the cars was that the Erie management resented the symbol of the DL&W playing such a prominent a role in the EL passenger train operation and sought to dispose of it wherever they could. However, it was equally true
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on their tail ends, were so closely identified with the train that, when these cars were taken off the train and placed into storage shortly after the merger, many observers were led to believe that the train had been discontinued. This was not true. The train continued to run, albeit without the
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Both Budd-built streamlined diners (469/769 and 470/770) also survive. The 469 is fully operational, with several minor issues, while the 470 requires a full restoration. The 469 is owned by the Dining Car Society, a nonprofit historical group based in
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that the observation cars' bar facilities lacked the ability to provide proper food service, unlike the EL's dining-lounge cars, which could serve both meals and beverages as well as provide distinct seating for each type of service.
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represented the DL&W's modernization of its passenger train fleet and image, as it became Train No. 3 (westbound) and No. 6 (eastbound), which previously had been assigned to the railroad's former premier train, the
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took over most U.S. passenger train operations. Amtrak might have taken over the Hoboken-Chicago operation, but observers speculated that the EL wanted to rid itself of its passenger trains before that could happen.
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Amtrak was facing budget cuts that threatened numerous routes across the country at that time, however. The addition of a new route, one which had not seen a passenger train in nearly a decade, was a low priority.
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also was discontinued on January 5–6, 1970. The trademark tavern-lounge cars were placed in storage again after the final run, although they appeared occasionally at the rear of special trains until sold-off.
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On November 13, 1979, three years after Conrail assumed operation of the former EL lines, Amtrak operated an inspection train over the former route of the
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between Hoboken and Scranton to determine the feasibility of restoring rail service between the two cities, and to try to prevent the abandonment of the
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Whatever the reason, the observation cars were restored after William White was appointed EL president on June 18, 1963. The originator of the
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Lackawanna Railroad Form 10 passenger schedules showing DL&W diesel equipment and a motto: "The Route of Phoebe Snow"
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to emphasize how the exhaust from its steam locomotives was cleaner than competitors' locomotives, as a result of using
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and DL&W railroads—the roads would merge formally in 1960 to form the EL—DL&W's mainline between
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full vestibule parlor car, sleeping car, dining car and coaches. Running during daylight hours, scenery included the
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named after its long-dormant promotional symbol. Launched by DL&W president William White, the new
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The train's reclining-seat coaches were taken from a pool of 26 cars split between builders
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Around 1900, the DL&W launched a marketing campaign around the fictional character of
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provided insufficient heat to the train in winter, and were supplanted by a pair of EMD
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Although Schumer's proposal reportedly has been shelved in favor of a routing via
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Both Tavern-Lounge cars (789 and 790) survive. Once used as parlor cars by the
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was known for its fast time as well as the scenery of the route. It included a
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The Delaware, Lackawanna & Western Railroad in the Twentieth Century
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departing Chicago at 130th St. And Torrence Ave. on November 25, 1966
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and, on return, would be transferred in Buffalo to Train No. 10, the
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to offer commuter rail service between Scranton and New York City.
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because they were deemed a nuisance, as they had to be turned on a
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coach, it currently runs on the Austin and Texas Central Railroad.
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ordered the train "reborn" as train #1, replacing the short-lived
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Passenger trains of the Delaware, Lackawanna and Western Railroad
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were studying a proposal to create a passenger rail line between
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In 1958, as part of the consolidation of operations between the
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The EL discontinued its last long-distance passenger train,
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Taber, Thomas Townsend; Taber, Thomas Townsend III (1980).
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for use as commuter cars. At least one coach ended up with
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Company Main Line Timetable showing such famous trains as
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valleys. The fast train stopped only at principal cities.
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Until spring, 1969, the nighttime counterparts to the
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Limiteds, Locals, and Expresses in Indiana, 1838–1971
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continued to run as #3. However, since the signature
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On November 15, 1949, the DL&W inaugurated a new
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Muncy, PA: Privately printed. 1396:out of Chicago, and several were sold to the 1287:, on January 6, 1970, about 16 months before 316: 1647:"The Phoebe Snow: on The Road of Anthracite" 1425:315/1315 and 317/1317: Formerly part of the 1234:On November 27, 1966, the EL terminated the 2081:Named passenger trains of the United States 2041:Passenger rail transportation in New Jersey 1641: 1639: 1637: 1635: 1613:Erie Lackawanna timetable, October 27, 1963 1942: 1928: 1777: 1763: 1723: 1604:Erie Lackawanna timetable, October 8, 1962 1567: 1552: 1548: 1546: 1544: 1542: 880:(DL&W) and, after a brief hiatus, the 323: 309: 1788:Delaware, Lackawanna and Western Railroad 1628:. Erie Lackawanna Railroad. June 9, 1968. 1400:. As of 2012, surviving coaches include: 996: 993:, killing 29 and injuring more than 100. 878:Delaware, Lackawanna and Western Railroad 189:1-31 (westbound), 2-32 (eastbound) (1963) 124:Delaware, Lackawanna and Western Railroad 1632: 1563: 1561: 1148: 1136: 1000: 1698: 1592: 1539: 2033: 1369: 1323:On January 25, 2008, New York Senator 1255:service: a service that ran until the 2076:Railway services discontinued in 1966 1923: 1758: 1558: 1329:New York Department of Transportation 900: 16:American passenger train (1949–1966) 2071:Railway services introduced in 1949 1474:None of the sleeping cars survive. 1132: 1029:ran on a daylight schedule between 13: 1502: 1484: 14: 2102: 2091:North American streamliner trains 1743: 1382:were split up; most were sold to 1319:Proposals for service restoration 1908: 1531: 1492:"Famous Trains of North America" 821: 801: 781: 761: 741: 721: 701: 681: 661: 639: 603: 602: 580: 560: 540: 518: 482: 481: 459: 437: 415: 393: 371: 349: 29: 1674: 1660: 1339:train, which terminated at the 876:which was once operated by the 1616: 1607: 1598: 1586: 1455:, they were later acquired by 1421:Great Smoky Mountains Railroad 1327:announced that Amtrak and the 1: 1477: 1471:awaiting a full restoration. 1436:318/1318: Privately owned in 1404:310/1310: Kept in the former 1110:diesel-electric locomotives. 822: 350: 1568:Zimmermann, Karl R. (1975). 1429:, they are now owned by the 1398:Delaware and Hudson Railroad 103:November 15, 1949 (DL&W) 7: 1555:, pp. 146–148, 169–176 1094:consists were built by the 802: 782: 762: 742: 722: 702: 682: 662: 640: 581: 561: 541: 519: 460: 438: 416: 394: 372: 217:(when operating to Chicago) 10: 2107: 1692: 1625:Erie Lackawanna time table 1514:The Democrat and Chronicle 1311:in the twentieth century. 1197:(a merger renaming of the 1088:American Car & Foundry 916:Its route traveled across 895: 1960: 1906: 1795: 1390:where it was used on the 1278: 1229:New York Central Railroad 1205:Susquehanna, Pennsylvania 1175:After the EL merger, the 830: 815: 810: 795: 790: 775: 770: 755: 750: 735: 730: 715: 710: 695: 690: 675: 670: 655: 648: 633: 611: 596: 589: 574: 569: 554: 549: 534: 527: 512: 490: 475: 468: 453: 446: 431: 424: 409: 402: 387: 380: 365: 358: 343: 298: 293: 289: 258: 236: 231: 221: 206: 198: 193: 183: 175: 167: 159: 140: 135: 117: 109: 99: 89: 71: 63: 53: 48: 28: 1707:Indiana University Press 1705:. 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Hoboken Terminal
Inter-city rail
New Jersey
Pennsylvania
New York
Delaware, Lackawanna and Western Railroad
Erie Lackawanna Railway
Hoboken, New Jersey
Buffalo, New York
Chicago
Roomettes
Double Bedrooms
diner-lounge
Rolling stock
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E8A
Tavern-Lounge
Track gauge
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Legend
Hoboken
Newark-Broad Street
Brick Church
Summit
Dover
Blairstown
East Stroudsburg

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