2978:"By the 20's and 30's, when the breed really hit its stride in this country the breed had pretty well become the "sorrels and roans." Now there are a few roans and even the odd bay now and then, but for all practical purposes, it is a chestnut-sorrel breed today." "This has long been the preferred color by Americans . . . the Cadillac of colors being a chestnut or sorrel team with snow-white manes and tails, with a white strip in the face and four white socks. This is the ultimate in draft horse style." "The fact that Belgians are by far the most numerous of all draft breeds in this country, plus the fact that they are pretty much a one-color breed, makes it easier to mate a horse when you need to and offers you a much bigger market when you wish to sell."
2831:. He seems to really be pushing an agenda with his edits. He makes assertations about working dogs living miserable lives in cages when they aren't in the back of a patrol car which is not very accurate. I know lots of police and military dog handlers whose dogs reside with them and their families when they aren't at work. A well trained GSD can switch from a work environment to a non-work environment. And the part about them being euthanized at the end of their working careers is blatantly erroneous. I have two 12 year old GSD's retired search and rescue dogs living out their old age in my house as proof. Anyway thanks again and sorry to vent--
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mean to, but that is how people get judged here. Think of it this way, a failed RFA wipes the slate clean. When you go up for RFA again, which I hope you do, the comments that you made previously will be discounted. Your slate is clean and now you know what people are looking for. Prove everybody wrong and when go for for Admin again let me know. I would love to support you! I do think you'll be a hell of an admin---the transgressions were just too recent. I know you think 3 months is a long enough time, but most people believe 6 months to a year is more appropriate.
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dumped a fair bit of effort into this. In particular I'd highlight Giano's input to you... if he thought you were irredeemable he would have acerbicly cut you off at the knees and been on his way to write more featured articles instead of returning here afterwards. But he did not, he has invested considerable time in counseling you, even though he opposed you. Take all of this on board. You have the potential to be a remarkable editor and admin here and I wish you all the best.
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heavy feathering on their lower legs. The photo you used does appear to have something to do with
Belgium, based on the caption, but the horse doesn't look like a purebred Belgian. (For one thing, I've never seen a Bay Belgian, and compare leg feather on the two horses. Photographer captions aren't always accurate) By the way, though, I DO appreciate the eye you cast on these articles and much of what you have to offer is very helpful.
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American Belgian, but bred in a different direction; I honestly don't know. The Belgian association site in the US says, "Along with these changes in conformation has come a color change. The original imports came in many color coats with a predominance of bay. About half of the first imports were bay and bay-brown, followed by roan, chestnut sorrel, black, and even a few greys. There was no particular Belgian color at the outset."
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secret with you, you can get away (just) with being rude about another editor but never insult their work. It is their baby - their creation - there is always something positive to say before the "but" and even them temper it. Never criticise work unless you are able to effect and/or advise on the solution yourself. You've probably learnt one of the most valuable lessons of your life today. So move on, it can only get better.
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1989:. You might take that as an insult, but it isn't intended as one. I know from personal experience that there are a number of extremely contentious issues out there, and that it sometimes helps to have a helping hand give one an idea how to handle them. I know that the backlog right now is pretty big, but you might be able to find someone listed as a coach who might be willing to offer a hand. It couldn't hurt, anyway.
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refs you have identified as not academic enough (12, 13, 22, 23), I should be able to find alternatives like BWP for the first three - pity about the airspeed calc though, that won't be in an academic journal - What can I do about the swallow tattoo bit, it's clearly true and oft-repeated on the web, but is never going to be in an academic journal - do I just take it out?
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2369:...for your participation, criticism, and support in my recent RfA, which succeeded with a final count of 90/1/1. I appreciate all of your kind words, criticism, and suggestions. I extend a special thanks to Acalamari for his nomination, and Dihydrogen Monoxide and Husond for their coaching and nominations. If you need help in any administrative matters, please contact me.
2710:. The trust bestowed upon me by the community is one of the most touching honours that I have ever received, and I vow not to let you down. Whether you have suggestions for ways in which I could improve, a request for assistance or just need someone to listen, my talk page and my email are always open. I pledge to do what I can to help this project, in the words of
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haven't been through an RfA, but I had a conflict a while ago where an editor chose to go through my life with a fine-toothed comb and draw all kinds of outlandish conclusions, and I remember the sick feeling in the pit of my gut that followed me around for a few days. So I can relate, but I can also tell you that if you have that, it will pass. All the best, -
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1623:" then you probably are a dick. Writing an encyclopedia is about content and knowledge the information and the facts are the important things that must be encouraged - putting them into acceptable English is also a talent - but trust me, the editors that can do both are few are far between. So wise up and get real and you may be an Admin yet.
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if you do take it on board, you will do fine in your next RfA. It takes a very deft touch to be a good admin here, for reasons that are complicated, and I think that's where you need most to focus. The advice you get sometimes will come from people who themselves could benefit from it, to be sure. But it is valid advice just the same.
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alone. I think it would be best if the entire domestication of the dog section was merged over to the domestication of the dog article, and in the process purged of hopeful speculation. In fact, what would be good is a
Speculation section where each myth about the domestication events was labeled a speculation. What do you think?
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Hi VanTucky. Apart from the general stuff about my dour writing style, I think I've addressed the other points. Per what I said on
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I'd say that it needs to wrap things up better. Right now that section is very fragmented and needs to be combined into coherent paragraphs. One thing that might help would be cutting some of the longer quotes short. Also, quotes under four lines long are often best combined with the text rather than
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Without being able to read Dutch, or
Flemish, or whatever language those commons photos are in, I don't know what they really are, but none of them could be considered a registered Belgian in the USA, they may be a different breed native to Belgium, or horses derived from the same foundation stock as
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Do you have any suggestions on what I can do? I liked your review because I felt you were holding the article to a high standard, which is what I aspire to. Just so you know, I'm not asking for a GA review, or comments on the writing/formatting (it's under construction once again), just suggestions
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Thank you for the card about your RfA. I know that you're probably feeling discouraged right now, but please keep in mind that this RfA isn't meant as a condemnation of you as a person, although it probably feels that way right now. It's merely the opinion of interested editors about your suitability
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as our admin coaches and would recommend him... But in all honesty, I think what you need most isn't coaching but time... you have the skills/knowledge. I think you have the trust of everybody (including those who opposed you this time) their concern was that you recently had a major transgression.
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This RfA shows one of the major problems with the process: those who keep their heads down, and avoid controversial articles have a simple time at RfA, while those who dive into the deep end of the pool, editing articles many won't touch get brutalized. Unfair? Probably. But perhaps for a few months,
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It's also easier for non-qualified editors who have edited for a few months and who have stayed under the radar become administrators than it is for highly qualified editors who have rustled a few feathers in the process of editing highly controversial articles. I get kind of weary seeing editors who
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I trust you. You seem to be running into the same problems that I did at my RFA. People opposing you either based on comments made months ago or opposing based on other peoples oppositions. Some of the supposedly "rude" or "incivil" comments that are cited are nothing compared to some of the comments
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Welcome and thanks for signing up at WikiProject
Agriculture. Please take a look around our project page and talk page for things you can do and add ideas of your own. I notice you have an interest in livestock, please let me know if you think a Work Group or Task Force for livestock makes sense at
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The majority of birds are not as well studied, and do not have the wealth of literary associations of Barn
Swallow - is there a minimum recommended length for GA? I'd like to work up some of the other bird articles to GA, and it would be helpful to know whether I should stick to species where I know
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OK, I've dumped the gallery (kept images though, I hope that's OK), replaced ref 12, used the UMich suggested citation for 13, fixed 14 and 18. I've moved the predators and brood parasites to a more sensible place, and tightened the text. I don't know what to do about
Estonia or tattoos. If they are
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Hello again. I'm still thinking about getting the CJ article up to GA. The main hurdle in the last review was the "Hippies" section, because you thought it wasn't NPOV, or possbily offensive. I understand what you're saying, so I renamed the section, but I haven't found a word to replace the word
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Sorry about that ā I speedy-deleted GAList3 after making GAList2 the exact same thing. If anyone else was likely to use GAL3, I would have done a redir, but I think you're the only person who even knew about it (and GeoGuy, but I doubt it). Sorry for the confusion! I fixed the page of your review by
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bad news you are delivering, such that your colleagues here are glad that you took the time to write them, glad that you and they have interacted. That is a touch I myself do not always have, I am quick to take offense and speak harshly sometimes, but I know that touch when I see it. Our best admins
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VanTucky: I am sorry you did not succeed on the first try. You have received some very sage advice during this process, and here on this page... as I said during the process itself, I sincerely believe that you will take it on board. You are clearly an intelligent and competent contributor here, and
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Heya Van, just want to echo what's said above. It got kinda brutal over there, but it looks like you may have been gaining some insight even through all the negativity, into what the community wants. Hopefully it ends up being a net positive for you, even though it probably really sucks right now. I
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I see your point Giano, and it might be a good one. But in practicum, the line between constructive criticism of work and an insult is often non-existent when it comes to the feelings and subsequent reaction of editors. Playing politics with bad writing isn't something I care to do, and I'd honestly
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time, but I've tended to try to help bird articles in particular to GA/FAC status, not review them - basically on this occasion it was a case of fools rush in. I see now that what I should have done was add the lifespan stuff and the tweaks (int units first, sex not gender, bird species capped etc)
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really only refers to outright reversion wars and impending future events (like elections). Personally I wouldn't quick-fail it just yet, I'd wait and see what happens. It doesn't seem to contentious at the moment. Do you really want it? You can have it if you want, I just barely started my review.
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Thanks for taking on the review, especially after my transgressions! I did think of double columning refs, wasn't sure if there were enough to justify. The predators were listed, but in a silly place (status) now moved to breeding. I've fixed refs 18 (and 14, which pointed to the wrong source). The
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You mentioned removing the section, but I've lived in CJ off and on the past 34 years, and the hippie influence is really important to the town. More important than even the refs I found indicate, though I only included what can be reliably refed. Basically, it's more important to me that it be a
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You have an opportunity in your work at GA to interact with lots of editors, far more than most editors do. Some are poor writers, and some are great writers, but all are participating in GA because they really want to make better articles and make this remarkable project better. Never forget that.
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Damn. I had stopped watching your RfA while I was on holiday since I thought it was sure to be successful. To be honest I'm a little flabbergasted that it was not. I still have 100% confidence in your good judgement and must apologise for persuading you to attempt such an disheartening exercise. If
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is partly correct it is "all too easy for teenagers are more easily able to become admins than adults, as if the whole process has been designed for them" but that is not the reason your FA failed. One of the interesting things I have learnt here (actually it is a fact of life) and I will share the
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Okay, I know for sure there are things people could quibble about that I've done. Sometimes I get hot headed, and three months ago I was blocked for violation of 3RR on Mike Godwin. I honestly think this (other than me not being smart enough to not revert) was a simple confusion over the difference
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I've been poking around in the dog domestication section of the Dog article, and have come to the conclusion that it is has collected a lot of pure speculation and breed-hyping. People are referencing sources that say the opposite of what they are claiming. Fixing all of it is too much for me to do
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I think you should stick with it, and I'll sorta watch from the sidelines, and maybe chime in if I see the opportunity. It will be good to see one that I'm not too involved with. I have probably edited
Hillsboro too much to take that one on, but I'll keep my eye out. Thanks! Will I see you Friday?
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My take on the existing photo is that while the horse is not stood up and the background is less than ideal, it is at least an animal which is representative of the breed standard, prepped and conditioned for show and has reasonably decent conformation. Better might be out there, the Flickr photos
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Yeah, there IS a difference between the official "Belgian" breed of horse found in North
America, and a draft horse that happens to be in Belguim! (grin) As for the Flickr shots, yes, those ARE "real" American-style Belgians, though the last one, labeled "Nephron's profile" might be a crossbred,
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Even though we did not always see eye to eye I thought you should be trusted with greater responsibility. There is a paradox here: people young enough to be willing to take on more work are likely to be more fiery than we might like, but those mature enough to be more level-headed are likely to be
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Hey there Van Tucky, I just wanted to wish you good luck on your next RFA. I think you are a great contributor and asset to this community and hope that this one doesn't prevent you from coming back stronger in a few months. I know that it is easy to loose your cool and say things that you don't
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Van Tucky, just a moment before this wallowing in self pity and talk of water becomes a mass drowning in tears. Amongst the opposition were some very long standing editors and Admins all held in high repute on the encyclopedia. I think the conversation here could be a little more introspective.
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VT...next time you are up for RfA, please drop me a note. I've given up looking over the applicants because they're mostly not worthy of the admin tools. You are. Your transgressions were minor and irrelevant. You are a credit to this project. Semper fidelis. (No, not a Marine, but it's apt
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Wanted to let you know that the photo you swaped out doesn't show the breed characteristics of a Belgian horse so I reverted it. Not that the other photo is perfect, if we did find a better one, I wouldn't complain, but in this case, nearly all Belgians are chestnut or roan, and they don't have
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very good advice, those telling you that the system is flawed, that you were robbed, that you need not change... they are doing you a disservice, I am afraid by glossing over the things that need attention. They are correct when they say you have many virtues, though. That is why some of us have
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Remember, being an admin isn't the be-all and end-all of being a valuable contributor. You have certainly been the latter, and I and I think everybody else hope that you don't let this example of criticism, which is known to get rather brutal toward several people, influence your future actions.
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This shows all the worst traits of Rfa and shows the clear need to reform it. It seems like teenagers are more easily able to become admins than adults, as if the whole process has been designed for them, and that concerns me, as indeed do certain implications of the whole 2-tier system. Thanks,
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I've had a look through that discussion and I think people are generally sympathetic towards editors who try to insist that bio articles are carefully referenced. With an otherwise clean block log in over a year of editing I think if you note this specifically and discuss it in the nomination in
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First off, you flatter me! Actually, I removed it not long ago. I've tempered in my attitudes towards adminship, and understand that it really is no big deal. Keeping that in mind, I'd totally let you nominate me. Though I'm not sure if I really need admin tools for what I do. What do you think?
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Well, yer too durn quick, I was going to do my first GA. Actually, I was going to quick-fail, because of the multiple questions about bias and neutrality that have surfaced on the talk page. It's not technically an edit war -- way too polite for that -- but it's clear that there are significant
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was a proud homosexual (have you even bothered to study his writings and letters?) and the homosexual movement is likewise proud of him as an icon. But by deliberately keeping this truth out of the spotlight in Knowledge you are depriving future readers from knowing the truth! "Neoconservative"
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I agree completely that people get too worked up about it, with partly that in mind I'm in the middle of a modest recruitment drive to expand the pool of admins a bit - I think any reliable editor should have the tools, even if they will only use them occasionally. I do think you would be an
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OK, first time I've done a GA, better make it the last too, since I seem to have trodden on too many toes. I misinterpreted your comment and thought you were just waiting for survival data to pass. Please delist it if you're not happy with the GA status, I won't interfere again. Thanks,
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Thanks to both of you. Alison, I just went to your navbar page and stole the click template format. Seems to work. Thanks again for the tips! You're now both my a party to my aesthetic anal retentiveness (ala the completely ridiculous userpage I forced Phaedriel into slaving over).
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As I said in my last (which will be my final) note to him, I'd never interacted with you before this RfA. I just never like to let good editors like yourself get smeared with unfair criticism at RfA. There are definitley some RfAs worth opposing--mostly those that are
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rather never be an admin if it means I have to be falsely complimentary of poor work. That said, I'm usually harsher than most people (maybe it's because I write and copyedit for a living, or maybe I'm just a dick), so making an effort to be extra nice couldn't hurt.
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No, no, not for each theory. What I would like is your input on the changes I make. How about I make a few changes at a time, paring down the domestication section, and then wait for dissent? For example, what did you think of my adjustments to the DNA evidence bit?
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K. Scott Bailey, a clarification: I was actually on your user talk page having followed your signature links from an RfA, and saw the bottom thread. I linked it to Alison because it was about her, who has since replied here. She isn't stalking you, I don't think.
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Interesting. Yeah, I can't think of a much better animal for silvopasture than goats. They'd love it. Apparently pigs free-ranging in fallow orchards used to be quite popular, but I can't particularly see them being as useful as goats in naturally forested land.
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So, given that this IS English Knowledge, and that the Belgian horse, as understood by English speakers (at least in North America) is the slick, no-feather sorrel (chestnut), I think we'd best stick with that standard. Check out these URLs for more info:
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good article than a "Good Article," but I would like to make it both. It's kind of like writing the New York City article; you may have many things you can add based on refs, but a knowledgable editor needs to make decisions about what to include.
542:. If you accept the nomination, you must formally state and sign your acceptance and answer the questions on that page. Once you have answered the questions, you may post your nomination for discussion, or request that your nominator do so.
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I feel honored to be trusted by so many of you. Knowledge is such a large community, that my acceptance in the face of such large numbers truly is humbling. I will use my new tools to continue the tasks for which you entrusted them to
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Maybe you misunderstood what I said. I'm not suggesting that the line between them actually is thin, but that people sometimes react badly whether it's constructive criticsm or an outright insult. Do some GA reviewing and find out.
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VanTucky, thanks for your vigilance on go articles, especially, go shape. With this years experience you have blossomed into a fine editor. Perhaps we can play go some day. I am variable in fighting strength, between 3Q and 1D.
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I completely agree. It's difficult to keep from jumping back in as I see some of the opposition, but I think it's better to simply let it ride, and if it becomes clear that it will not result in promotion, gracefully withdraw.
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Sure. One other point to: my total edit count is like 17,000, but at least a 1,000 of those are to my own userspace (before I learned to use the preview button). It may be better just to give counts for mainspace, xfd, etc.
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to be there, if it actually had ANY helpful information at all, it would have every right to stay there. But it doesn't. All it says is that Banksy's British and likes to stencil. Big deal. It shouldn't be there at all.
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Thank you so much for suppporting my RfA. I was promoted with a total of (44/1/0) - a vote of confidence from the community that I find humbling and motivating. I will not abuse your trust. Look forward to working with
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changing the 3 to a 2. (Also, it's a good idea to sign inside the template, at the end of the 7com line. Otherwise, if you leave a space after the final }} symbols, it will show up as pre-formatted text.) Cheers. ā
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VT is not my wikifriend (though he may be after this mini-ordeal). I had never met him on WP before this RfA. I have simply judged him to be a GREAT editor, and a superb RfA candidate, and defended him as such.
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Do I remember correctly that you used to have a note saying that you never intent to accept a nomination for administrator on your userpage? If that is not true, would you consider allowing me to nominate you?
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Excellent. I'll write up your recommendation. A point people are sure to make is the proportion of your edits without an edit summary, could you turn on the "Remind me if I forget" option in your preferences?
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Yes, it is a shame you had to withdraw:-( Big deal, you were uncivil to someone back in July! That was a isolated case. We all make misstakes. All that matters is if you learned from it. Have a nice day:)--
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Perhaps you ought to cut your teeth writing and commenting on FAs before becoming a one man GA reviewer. FAC can be a pretty tough and hostile place, but generally the criticism is constructive and helpful
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link, and leave it at that. At the most, a sentence or two about "a proliferation of various minority scientific and popular theories on the domestication of the dog and breed development" would suffice.
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are worth uploading to commons, maybe plop the two conformation shots onto the talk page for the article along with the existing photo and we can compare them side by side. Lighting is better, anyway...
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Hi there, I have enhanced the general idea you had by finding more anecdotal type evidence about his life that would dilute the emphasis on statistics and the bottom line . Please take a look. Thanks,
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If you have uploaded other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on those pages too. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "
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I don't criticise this comment but the use of "win" kinda makes it clear that it's a contest (a beauty contest?). As I see it, that's not what consensus should be about. But you dealt with some heavy
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this point. I tend to think the earlier we start such sub-project areas the better organized the entire project could eventually be. I look forward to editing with you in the area of Agriculture.--
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have been here 4 months and made a few edits become administrators but editors who have been here for over a year or two but have said a few things that upset people here and there never make it.
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Hey man can you please remove that banner you put on my page? I don't think it is neccessary as people just forget to remember things. I do know how to sign my posts and fill in the edit summary.
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hippie within the section. I looked for synonyms, but only found "beatnik, Bohemian, drop-out, flower child, freak, free spirit, freethinker, and yippie," which don't really work. I looked at
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I wanted to thankyou for your review of Batwoman. Despite my best efforts, there are certain resources I simply do not have or cannot find for the article at this time. Thankyou again.
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RE. Alright man, I thought you were having a go at me. I just guess I like to learn things myself! But thanks for your help, I had a quick read of the links you provided me. Peace.
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Accepted. Please understand that I'm not stalking you. Please also, in the interests of your friend, back away from this nonsense. I'm done commenting, suggest you do likewise -
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Yours was the best counsel he received during the RfA (some were simply "oppose because he was mean/incivil/cursed/whatever"), and this post continues your great advice for VT.
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Hey, I didn't know you were a breeder. Not to pry, but I'm interested in it myself somewhat. I recently devoured all the literature on it I could find. What breed do you keep?
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You're very welcome. It's a shame you had to withdraw. I'm sure that, if you take note of all the pointers left down by other voters, you'll be more successful next time.Ā :-)
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This RfA thanks inspired by VanTucky's which was in turn inspired by LaraLove's which was inspired by The Random Editor's, which was inspired by Phaedriel's original thanks.
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I certainly think our journeys through wikipedia are full of life lessons, really that is what has kept me here through the dark times (of my own experiences here). Thanks,
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I remember reading about the environmental_issues/trade_routes subject, especially the oil slicks in maritime routes and such, so I'll try to and get to that soon as well.
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