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399:, all the entries for DDG-85 to DDG-112 have a note "c", and the entry for DDG-127 has a note "d". These two notes use the Havard citation, but they are in brackets without ref tags, (wasn't that deprecated?) Anyway, the first note has, in full size text, the author's last name and publicatiom year, while the second note, again in full size, has the publisher name and publication year, (isn't the preference to have a small superscripted alpha-numeric digit?) These notes are hyperlinked, but they do not work. At least for me, on desktop mode on my mobile, clicking the link doesn't take me to the full entry below. (But, hovering over the note/link 682: 21: 574:(with the previous two still there), and in that is the cite with a link to the ref. I'm now wondering why we even need these harvnb style cites here. I'm sure they work well in other situations, but here it just seems like it would be simpler to swap them out for regular refs. Maybe it's just me, but they don't seem particularly helpful here, (unless I'm missing something, and I'm totally willing to admit that I may be, as I not completely familiar with this particular markup). Cheers - 104: 448: 494:
If I hover over the or I get the popup box; if I click the same two I go to the appropriate note at the bottom of the section. Whichever method I use, if I hover over the blue link it shows a further box giving the full ref; if I click that blue link I am taken to the full ref. This is as it should
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Thanks for looking, and the reply, but does that mean the full cites are only available to you when you access via the little box as you hover over them? If so, that doesn't seem right, does it? Also, these notes have brackets instead of ref tags, wasn't that set-up deprecated a few years ago? Thanks
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Thanks for all of that. I took the url as I found it in the article, though I vaguely remember finding that book with a web search years ago and linking urls based on that. I probably never would have found that https://quod.lib.umich.edu/p/...etc. urls. I'll probably revisit this in the article and
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like what I was trying to set up by swapping the parenthesis for ref tags. Except now, if you click on "d", there is a hover box with the note and a superscripted "". You click on the "3" and get second hover box with the "Dept of Defense 2017" link. You click on that link and get a third hover box
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shows me the full ref in a hover box. Is that the goal here?) I played around with it a little, trying to get these harvard notes to look and behave like other refs, but... nada. But this is why I'm sure is this is a problem or not. Perhaps someone here more savvy with this particular markup could
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are not expected to be used as article references. Move those sources out of §Further reading into a separate section: §Bibliography or §Works cited or some such and leave §Further reading to hold actual 'further reading'
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converts semicolon-separated page-number lists to comma-separated page-number lists. Unless there is some overwhelming reason to present readers with the 200%-size page, use a better url:
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take a look, determine if there is indeed a problem, and if so, hopefully fix it. Thanks (sorry about the length) -
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at the bottom and no attempt to use LDR, it should then be possible to use non-parenthetical refs. See
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Yeah, because editors will separate multiple individual pages with semicolons instead of commas,
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is. I suspect that harvnb has been used here because the four notes are in the form of
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with an externally-linked pageno or pageno range, so I did not make the change. With
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article, changing a one-page citation to cite two pages, changing
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I ran into a problem trying to make a change in one cite in the
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Just had a look, (thanks for doing all that, by the way), it
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where a broken harv-link reporting scheme is proposed.
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