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7328:
respect to a ban. I suppose it is possible for people to "reform" and change their attitude, so leaving the door open in the future is not wholly unreasonable. I would not oppose Jtkiefer's proposed solution (listed above), specifically with respect to the one year voluntary ban from FPC and RFA pages. I am uncertain whether the 6 month ban on "generic" non-article/user pages is necessary, and do not consider it required for a reasonable solution. As Jt's objectionable behavior appears to have been limited to FPC and RFA pages, I have no problem with the punishment being confined to those pages, especially if he continues editing on a known account (User:Jtkiefer, for example, with no socks). Based on a brief check of Jt's additions to the article namespace, it does appear that his "problem" is limited to administrative tasks, and that he would probably be capable of making useful contributions to the 'pedia if they were limited to the article/user space. I maintain my position that his behavior with respect to seeking authority is absolutely unacceptable, but acknowledge that he has contributed outside of that capacity and should probably be allowed to continue to do so. --
9806:
overly date linked, but context is everything and many date links can be considered relevant. Bobblewik's latest bout of editing just removed all linked dates when encountered, at a speed that clearly would not allow sufficient examination of the context in which each date was linked. There is wide disagreement on this issue between editors and no clear consensus that these edits are acceptable. Bobblewik has been asked by numerous people, including Jimbo apparently, to stop this. After expiry of each and every block what happens? Boblewik returns and starts delinking dates, and I repeat en-masse because that's what is happening. Articles edited today with a non preference linked date were changed at at around 2 per minute initially. All linked dates were changed - blam, onto the next one - that is en-masse date delinking without consideration of the context in relation to the article.
3855:. He is continuosly reblocked by the same small number of admins, most who had conflicts with him, or have made their opposition towards him more than clear. As such, neither of you is uninvolved, and neither of you should block him. If the community is so fed up with him as you claim, there should be sufficient number of uninvolved adimins who want to block him. Your accusation that I encouraged him is beyond the pale, but I have gotten used to your wrath by now. I suggest that you finally proof your accusation that I am to blaim for the breakdown of the RfM, you have made the accusation now so often without any evidence. And I suggest you stay away from homeontherange completly, because it is very clear to me that your continued emotional involvement causes the situation to escalate time and time over again. -- 8601:
another article or something else besides a merge. I do not know about legal requirements, but it does seem dishonest (claiming you (generic you) wrote it) and like stealing (denying recognition to the authors) not to give credit to the authors of the original content. They found all of the sources, identified the relevant information and presented it in an intelligible and possibly persuasive manner, depending on the type of content. All you are doing is reverse engineering it. It would be even worse if you are rewriting their words and crediting their sources instead of them. I had a tenured English professor who would insist on it being disclosed if even you just read/watched a work and did not use it as a reference. This would be a much greater usage of a work, so I think it should be noted. --
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disputes, made them a thousand times worse than they would otherwise have been, and destroyed the remaining trust that some editors still had for him. Then you scuppered the formal mediation which might have saved him. What you forget (or never knew) is that I have known Homey a lot longer than you have, and he and I used to be very supportive of each other, so I didn't particularly want to see him go down the tube. It was in order to save those long-term editing relationships, which you neither knew nor cared about, that I tried to arrange mediation. I asked your permission to reproduce your e-mails — in which it is clear that you scuppered the mediation — for the first ArbCom case involving Homey. You refused, and said not only could I not reproduce them; I should also not mention their existence!
3379:
than "lost the confidence of": he is strongly disliked and not trusted by them. Even you, his staunchest ally, are forced to admit that his behavior is "unnecessarily provocative." Therefore, his editing of those pages is going to cause misery and trouble. That is a fact that nothing will change now, because he went too far, and there is now no way to repair those relationships. I tried very hard to get formal mediation started in order to avoid that total breakdown in relationships, but several others, including Homey initially, scuppered it, and then his sockpuppetry (or whatever you want to call it) started, and things went downhill from there. Therefore, in a case like this, it's not a question of deciding whether someone has lost the confidence of the community. He simply has. It has gone.
4095:"Numerous content disputes with HotR prior to the "sockpuppets" controversy?" Hardly. I barely edited his Israeli apartheid article, and we haven't been in "disputes" in months. There was no "conflict of interest", and you and Homey constantly claiming this will not make it true. In addition, I can't understand why you talk about "not supported by the facts", when you are completely unaware of them. The evidence (which you have not seen, and therefore should not have commented on) points specifically and solely to Homey (or perhaps, the aliens that took over Homey's computer) being the sockmaster of "Barbamama" or "Fluffy the Cotton Fish" . 9376:
This includes taking to steps to prevent conflicts from escalating. Sometimes it even means backing down and letting a matter drop. However, instead of picking your battles wisely, you seem to want to fight every battle to the bitter end. Just in this section, you've managed to argue with every editor who's posted an opinion. Is it really the case that you're right and everyone else is wrong? My advice is back away from the template for a while and edit your favorite articles. Also, it wouldn't hurt to reread your RfC with the understanding that the majority of these editors are raising valid points.
7284:
admin. This is not a matter of us failing to Assume Good Faith, you've PROVEN (more than once) that this community cannot trust you and that you do not care about the opinions of the people who make up the community. If you want to be an admin, you go ahead and convince a sizable majority of people that they can trust you. Now, I doubt you'll be able to do that, but you are entitled to try... OPENLY. I would also like to make a special request that someone who's a regular on the WP:FPC page be made aware of Jt's secret identity, as there are concerns about his behavior on that page specifically. --
4918:
the crux of it. My version would be "in the absence of policy, we make an article look like all the others and do not use graphical elements in links, whether the links are good or bad." We can, in text body, say, "See Linktext for more information," or, in the links, "Linksite: An excellent review of the subject," but I would suggest that inserting graphical elements is a bad idea. It is a bad idea for a variety of reasons, but the chief one is the one the questioner brought up: it makes the link special on a universal basis and without explanation.
2334:: I'd say let the user keep it. The edits have been harmless and/or helpful, many people have various political statements on their user pages, as long as the user continues to make useful edits we shouldn't be too worried. I'm more concerned that the user initially claimed it was a concidence and then acknowledged that it was deliberate. Lying and taking up our time as a result is disruptive and will inevitable make further work with the user difficult. If the user becomes a serious POV pushing problem then we will deal with it then. 7170:
like dante's "oppose indefinitely" make me weary of disclosure since I feel that I will never be able to get a fair chance again for adminship due to people who will infinitely oppose even after I've earned trust again, also I am not sure if the community will accept anything short of the arbcom and even though I am trying to assume good faith I do not have faith that this won't be done then I'll end up being perm banned by some admin who can claim that this isn't a "community wide decisions". Jtkiefer 18:18, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
9675:
rarely useful to the reader and reduce the readability of the text". At one stage there was a suggestion that one should not edit articles specifically to remove date links. It looks to be that today Bobblewik has been finding articles with units to tidy up and then delinking years when he saw them too. This obviously has not placated the opponents! Personally I support delinking but I wish BW wouldn't do it because it gets some people so upset. Can't his tremendous number of valuable edits allow room for a bit of leeway?
5873:
disagree with my choice as to the particular title, you can discuss it on that articles talk page. Or, you can even revert me--but at least we don't end up with the totally unacceptable position which prevailed before. If you do revert me, the redirect will remain. That means that someone who sees some word or name of a person or place in an English language newspaper or magazine story will now at least have a reasonable chance to find the Knowledge article on the subject, if one exists. That wasn't the case before.
2839:. This user has made over 35,000 edits in a period of several years. This is not a user you block through a community ban, this is a case that requires the arbcom. Homeontherange has already indicated that he will appeal a community ban, and I support him in that. People claim the many abusive sockpuppets, I would like to see the evidence for the many abusive ones, and equally about the remaining accusations. As the tenstions between groups have gone to high, I think this needs to get away from the discussion boards.-- 7308:
of course would be enforced not only by myself but the community at large I guess since I can assume that from now on all my contributions will be gone over with a fine tooth comb, this is not my first choice for a solution and the conversations above so that you do not have a legitimate excuse for a community ban as the community by and large is split over possibly banning me but I'm willing to abide by it if it will appease Taxman, Dante, and the community. Jtkiefer 00:35, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
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knows, in the future (granted, it would take a lot more time than "usual"), you might even arrive at a point where the community will we willing to trust you with Admin tools again. But if you up and leave now, nothing gets resolved, and the last memory of your participation in the project would be this debacle. Would you say that's fair? Be patient; accept responsibility. And don't get angry because people are having a hard time digesting what has happened, since that's not fair either.
281::::::Since when is asking someone to stop being a dick a personal attack? Is asking someone to stop being confrontational a personal attack? If it is then why does ] exist at all? Obviously since refering to it is a personal attack. And I removed the report because it was taken here; notice the edit summary and how many times I've done the same for other reports that are taken to AN/I? I never warned about removing reports, I warned about removing warnings. ] 19:05, 16 August 2006 (UTC) 274::::::Since when is asking someone to stop being a dick a personal attack? Is asking someone to stop being confrontational a personal attack? If it is then why does ] exist at all? Obviously since refering to it is a personal attack. And I removed the report because it was taken here; notice the edit summary and how many times I've done the same for other reports that are taken to AN/I? I never warned about removing reports, I warned about removing warnings. ] 19:05, 16 August 2006 (UTC) 13006:
page is evidently not that of a newly registered or weird user. I closed the discussion a minute after I moved the article, not a big deal (closing before would solve this sort of problem, but there are, perhaps pedantic, reasons why I haven't in the past). The article was moved based on support of the nominator and myself in light of strongly prevailing reasons, when all expressed opposition was contingent on corrected problems or was vague and not relevant to this particular move. —
3783:
name, and after his treatment, I can't blame him. It is better to know who your enemy is, rather than not knowing, there is nothing to gain from his ban. If he chooses to change the template of his banned accounts, so be it, I do not feel there is any harm done. I feel as though the Admin who revert those User page edits, are just spiting him, and incorrectly asserting their power. I think the behaviour of most the Admin invlovled here, really looks poorly on Knowledge.
6415:
seems to be altogether fine, and I don't think there's any risk of disruption relative to work on articles. I'm not certain that a year-long ban from RfA is in order—his only sockpuppeteering at RfA seems to have been relative to his own RfAs, and I can't imagine that he'll be requesting adminship anytime soon—since he may have particular prescience apropos of the judgment of prospective admins, but I don't think such a ban would be particularly wrong.
81: 10491:) of 'playing a silly little game' and denies that it is vandalism. Well, tell you what, it is whim who is playing a silly little game and committed vandalism here. A very childish form, which makes it even worse than gross vandalism, in my eyes. This was done merely to annoy, to harass another user. There is no explanation possible, the only thing fitting is an apology by Oiboy77 and a promise to never, ever, do this again. -- 3134:
interfere with the election to the medcom of another; he pretended to be another banned user in order to cause confusion; etc. It has been the worst disruptive behavior from a former regular user that I've encountered in my time here. Anyone who wanted to create a new account simply in order to contribute to the encyclopedia could have done so without interference, and would not have engaged in any of this behavior.
4969:) including icons. This spewing of Musicbrainz icons might be an example of BEBOLD but should be reverted as BRD. They are a departure from existing practice that's existed for a good reason. There's nothing wrong with a VPP policy discussion but the initial state of that discussion should be with the icons gone, not with them presented as a fait accompli to possibly be reversed. 292:::::::What is all this bickering? Are we forgetting the bigger issue here? ] has been abused!!! ] is in pain!! Can no-one provide succor? "Is there no balm in Gilead? Is there no physician there? Why then has not the health of the reporting board been restored?" ]<sup><small><font color="DarkGreen">]</font></small></sup> 19:12, 16 August 2006 (UTC) 6009:
problem, because we only made an invisible semi-fix to one particular article, then that is missed. One of the problems, of course, is that a single character can be transliterated differently in different languages, so there is not any one size fits all solution, even if I were to bother even trying to learn all those silly rules for each of the thousands of possible characters.
5507:, since I would suggest that this also applies to editors venturing into a new area. Obviously, informing people of what's happening via leaving them a message in their talk page would prevent so much hassle - with a polite enough notice, people would probably appologise and move it themselves. And once people have been warned once about this, there is better ground to stand on. 4058:, that is, a content dispute. Were it not so, we would constantly have to rotate admins in dealing with a conduct problem, which is burdensome to the project because of the time it takes to understand the history behind a particular individual, as well as the very human tendency of admins to give second chances to anyone whose misconduct they have not witnessed personally. 11830:
POV. What I am doing is required in order for these articles to maintain a NPOV status. There are very, very few academic sources that call Rand a philosopher, and most "reliable sources" given in articles come from Rand's supporters, almost all of whom have no academic credibility. Consensus isn't needed when the facts say that calling Rand a philosopher is POV. --
3941:
homeontherange. This is very troublesome because of your strongly expressed opinion that admins that, when they are involved even marginally in a dispute, they cannot make decisions. Apparently, you use two standards for that and that is a clear indication that you should take a step back and think some things over before telling other people not to be involved. --
2681:
and engaging in deceptive and abusive editing with sockpuppets. Knowing his recent history, I think blocking his accounts and forbidding editing outside arbitration pages is prudent. Preventing future disruption in the face of his past disruptive editing should be our purpose. I think limiting him to the arbitration case pages is the only way to make it happen.
3225:
editing with him so much, which I can only hope was a recognition on your part that he had gone beyond the pale, so please don't start up again. That Homey denies something is no reason not to believe it. He is disruptive, malevolent, and disingenuous, and is thoroughly enjoying causing this fuss. If he had wanted to edit the encyclopedia quietly,
3842:
was needed was formal mediation and a complete end to wikilawyering in order to get Homey back into the fold, as it were. In your wisdom, you forced the situation in the opposite direction, and now the editing relationships are beyond repair. If you want to stop making things even worse, you might consider staying out of the situation completely.
5254:
tired of getting hit with collateral damage from YaR GnitS so I created a template, someone didn't like the template, so block, and delete, nothing about that is sockish. If you care to do a checkuser you'll see I wasn't even logged in from an AOL proxy range, rather from a 172, which is not the least bit anonymous. So, if you wouldn't mind....--
8979:
unaware i had to ask permission, but if you notice Ed went and made a real major change 5 minutes later (bolding text, recoding and aligning to left -- which also happend to break the ifbx) he did not ackknowledge this as major at all and it took him time to fix it, the fact that he thinks he does not him self have to ask is bias.
5400:
structures. Use the process, Luke. Use the process. When we don't use the policy, we establish a two tier site, where admins do what they like, and regular users are at their mercy. That's not our structure, it has not been our structure, and it should not become our structure, lest we empower all the administrator-paranoiacs.
265:::::Paul, is this you abusing a reporting board to accuse Jay of abusing reporting boards, just as you made a personal attack while warning about personal attacks, and indeed removed a report while warning about removing reports??? ] <sup><font color="Purple">]</font></sup> 19:01, 16 August 2006 (UTC) 258:::::Paul, is this you abusing a reporting board to accuse Jay of abusing reporting boards, just as you made a personal attack while warning about personal attacks, and indeed removed a report while warning about removing reports??? ] <sup><font color="Purple">]</font></sup> 19:01, 16 August 2006 (UTC) 6898:
consequences for you actions. For you to ever seek adminship again, it must be done in the public light. I have no problem with you returning to edit quietly, but I have a big problem with the possibility of you using that secrecy to try to get adminship once again. As for who could be trusted to know your new account,
10254:
always denied it is him, edit warred to get rid of the tags, etc. I don't believe that Eddie would announce on his fourth edit the account is one of his. And I don't believe he would voluntarily tag his own account as "a sock puppet of Eddie Segoura." This person's MO is, in my opinion, completely different to Eddie's.
7718:
reply to any comments, questions, or accusations on this page sockpuppetry then I guess I would fall under that definition this is no different than a ban on an editor editing anything except for user talk and his/her arbcom case except in this case it's not an arbcom page it's this set of threads and subthreads in AN/I.
12881:
I also concur with the indefinite block of Suffolklaw in the particular circumstances where it looks like this account was created just to make such comments here. I don't see that as banning someone solely for their personal belief. But if the sole ground for banning someone was a known extremist or
12336:
As I read that, 2 of the article bans were rescinded, so I don't think they count. I see two blocks and one article ban. Since he hasn't violated the article ban to earn another block you can't hold that against him either, If you block him for recreating a copyvio, I think you're limited to a week
12291:
There is a big diffrence between deleting an article and deleting of some of the content. Not all the article was based on fair use. Some of it was based on not copy righted material and yet El_C have dleted the article in a way that the history is no longer available. This is edit war and mis use of
11952:
I'm going to put my two cents in here real quick. Attic Owl has behaved in an uncivil manner towards Kelly Martin and Cyde Weys. Now Cyde did in my opinion make a boardline uncivil comment on A.O.s page about becoming a member of Esperanza. Cyde Weys was in my opinion as a Non SYSOP to be justifed
10393:
This is an encyclopedia, and we are here to write encyclopedic articles from a neutral poinit of view, so just your comment of 'Pro-Israel faction' is ridiculous. Cut the crap. Do not put words in my/others mouth. I have not even once insinuated anything like that. This does not involve any 'false or
10360:
template. What is so incredulous is that IP is registered to London, England, and it is a well known fact that I am in the US. Oiboy, you are either completely clueless about wikipedia templates or, and I am afraid this is more likely, based on your knowledge of vandalism templates and RfAr's, guilty
9782:
This discussion needs to be held here for maximum community exposure. This is a recurring pattern of editing from Bobblewik. You make reference to "restrictions imposed on him", but from what I see, that was some informal comment by some editors regarding the speed of his edits (and whether or not he
9375:
When this matter spilled onto ANI, the focus shifted from the template itself to how you reacted to opposition. With the huge number of editors we have, disagreements over changes (major or minor) are inevitable. It's essential that editors are able to handle opposition in a rational and calm manner.
8962:
I appreciate your intentions, and I fully understand your logic in wanting to make the changes. But the problem is that you are failing to acknowledge the logic of those opposing you. You are automatically assuming that those who disagree with you are vandalising, or disrupting Knowledge. This is not
8564:
I think the point Uncle G was trying to make was that you cannot delete an article if you have merged any content from it. It must remain as a redirect to the article the content was merged to in order to preserve attribution, even if it was a POV fork (I have no idea). Pointing you to the policy was
8401:
You're pretty much taking the proper action now. If someone is serially uploading unfree images, then a short block with progressive durations is generally in line (by that I mean 24 hr, 48 hr, 72 hr, and then ArbCom in an RFaR action). It depends upon whether the user is misunderstanding copyright
8040:
Whoa, balls. Big ones. I think that while Karmafist has the potential to be a good editor again, if he keeps getting bird-dogged by the same people we'll very rapidly spiral into another indefinate block. The most recent block for incivility was stretching a very long bow, for instance. So, is it
7307:
A possible other solution, since it appears that I risk being banned if I don't give into being railroaded, what if I edit only as Jtkiefer and do a 6 month voluntary ban on all spaces outside of article/user/and user talk with a one year ban from FPC and RFA and all subpages and related pages, which
6773:
been distressing, the person most hurt by Jtkiefer's behaviour is almost certainly Jtkierer, himself. And the fact of opposing his sockpuppet's RfA suggests that this is not a straightforward case of duplicity for the motive of gain, but that the user may have been going through problems that we know
6662:
I think that Jtkiefer could be a good article editor again but should not be given any positions of trust, or allowed to comment or vote on them, until maturity has been demonstrated. I'd rather see him restricted to his current account with some curbs in place (no standing or running for admin, arb,
6300:
I am in the strange position of having some good memories of Jtkiefer (and incidentally, bad ones of Pegasus). At this time, and based on this evidence, I would not yet be willing support an indefinite block. While there is evidence of abusive sockpuppetry, and the puppets should be blocked, so far
5011:
I am only very concerned about the Pandora box of those little spam icons that keep getting added to external links, and thus make some sites look special and endorsed. And the templates just make it easier to spam (the spam icon on the MusicBrainz template stayed for 10 days until I reverted it, and
4861:
We should get rid of these even if the MusicBrainz project wants to keep them. We would not insert Apple logos all over Knowledge even if there was an Itunes project that wanted to keep them. Yeah, Musicbrainz is a .org and releases some stuff under free licenses, but the interesting stuff is under
4120:
Readers should note that HotR and JayJG were involved in a bitter dispute on the New anti-Semitism page shortly before the present controversy began. I'm standing by my comments as to the existence of a conflict of interest. To Jay's second point, I'm not certain that seeing the evidence would make
3940:
If you are so affraid to make things worse, I suggest you take a few steps back yourself, and let uninvolved admins deal with the issues. You are very deeply involved now in this extended conflict, but you still try to maintain that you are not, resulting in making admin decisions even with regard to
3324:
My intepretation of recent events is that Ex-Homey's decision to recategorize the "Sockpuppet" pages may have been unnecessarily provocative under the circumstances, but it was not disruptive (ie. it did not jeopardize the integrity of the project; designating these alt. accounts as "Sockpuppets" was
2562:
Strongly opposed to allowing him to edit any place but arbitration pages. I blocked his original account for abusive sockpuppets because of his involvment in the WordBomb case. Additionally, Ex-Homey mistated the reason you unblocked him in his statement on RFAr that he has against me. I'll post more
2447:
Well, PEAR hasn't done any harmful edits, but (s)he just did a number of edits that are not constructive, leaving a "Hi" on a number of seemingly random user talk pages (possibly found the users to target from recent changes). I assume he's doing this to quickly get to 150 or 200 edits so he can keep
1869:
Regardless of the actions of Spike I see no excuse for this behaviour. There is never an excuse for threatening someone off wikipedia regardless of what they've done. You stop talking and report it on the proper pages if you can't remain civil and within the policies. I don't know the history but the
12941:
I gave a warning to him, but as so often happens with these things you don't seem to be have been completely civil, either, in dealing with people involved in debate about Catullus. I don't see anything from you as egregious as what he has said, but it's hard from a quick look to sort out the rights
12214:
If El_C feels she want to chenge the text and remove some parts of it she can always edit the article but to delete a complete article is pure vandalism and mis use of admin powers cause the history (including her vandalism) can not be traced. El_C again misused her admin powers in a place where she
11994:
Incivility that is provoked is understandable. Occasional incivility is forgivable. Constant incivility is the only thing worth bothering this noticeboard with, and I don't see that here. If Cyde's occasional snarkiness has contributed here to outing a chronically disruptive sockpuppeteer, then that
11859:
And you are trying to keep an academic term in articles involving an anti-academic and her pseudoscientific ideology. Her work is only "philosophy" in the sense that intelligent design is a "theory". It only counts as such in the vernacular sense, which a responsible and accurate encyclopedia should
9674:
Certainly a lot of people object to Bobblewik's year delinking, and a lot of other people support it. The MOS says "There is less agreement about links to years. Some editors believe that links to years are generally useful to establish context for the article. Others believe that links to years are
9158:
Ok I'm moving from finding your behaviour "bizarre" to downright disturbing. AMIB Quite clearly says he opposes your changes, you QUITE CLEARLY state that you take this as support ". This now goes beyond wiki-lawyering (which you have been accused of in the past), you seem intend on creating a false
9021:
There is a particular element of this I find quite bizzare. Reading the talkpage for the template, AMIB tells you in quite explicit terms that he does not support your changes and wishes you to stop, other editors share his point of view. You tell those editors that you take this as SUPPORT for your
7697:
I do not see how there would be any basis for that, I have dealt with all policy violations including allowing myself to be monitored and the connection to be revealed should I go up for adminship again, I have also abandoned Jtkiefer except for user, user talk, and the noticeboards the former would
7649:
It will not just be one admin, he will tell people he trusts, including probably the arbcom and a couple bureaucrats and maybe even a few other admins he trusts, I honestly do not know nor should I probably know who knows but I trust taxman to pick good people, and if he wants to tell you who he has
7564:
I am going to email taxman with the username of my new nick, after that I will leave it up to him how he uses that information and who he tells, I trust that he'll let a group of people he knows and trusts about it and will reveal who I am should I run for adminship. Other than that I will stick to
7492:
and you will all have to trust me when I say that I will follow the guidelines laid out here in terms of FPC, one account, and RFA though I will not rule out doing any of them in the eventual future. I'd appreciate being left to my edits but if you really feel the need to continue this then I am as
6821:
I don't have a crystal ball, of course, but if I had to guess, I'd say you are not likely to be banned, but you are equally unlikely to become an administrator, or to hold any kind of special position in this community. If you can settle for being an editor (and doing it from a single account), who
6008:
One of the major problems with that is that you miss out on the knowledge of those people who know when a letter is often transliterated as two letters rather than one (dj, dz, aa, ou, etc.), and can thus also create redirects from the other spellings as well. If their attention isn't called to the
5928:
Furthermore, many of these articles are accompanied by another problem--not being indexed properly in the categories. It isn't a one-to-one correspondence; some of those missing any connection the the English alphabet form have already been indexed properly (and in most cases, appear as they should
5455:
Cyde: Maybe if you took your time and didnt rush into things, they would end up so complicated? Whats done is done I suppose? I'm asking for them to be undeleted as well. If you feel so strongly that so many templates need to be deleted, maybe you should request for a speedy be added to CSD, or some
5253:
Excuse me, why did you tag my account as a sockpuppet? Just becuase someone decided that creating a sockpuppet tag with an autoblock feature was 'disruptive' doesn't mean that I'm a sockpuppet of anyone, and I wasn't removing sockpuppet tags, I was replacing them with the now deleted template. I got
4917:
Respectfully, Dab, we priviledge the good ones by inclusion or by classification within the article. The question raised here is, I think, wider than a particular article, as it is asking for policy on the use of graphical elements with links. In the absence of policy we do what? That seems to be
4171:
The above statement by Moshe about getting into conflicts with every administrator who touches articles he frequences is incorrect and misleading. There are a select number of administrators he had issues with - SlimVirgin, Jayjg and Humus Sapiens. These administrators came to the table with views
3809:
What do you mean by "where Homey often edits from?" I graduated and left Kingston in 2003 and have been back only once. It's quite the embellishment to refer to a single day out of the past three years as "often". Sorry Jay, but I've never met Pete Peters or even heard of him prior to the above post
2680:
Seems like your buying into Homey false assertion that his block is punitive when in reality it was preventative. And you therefore look like you are giving him a get out of jail free card. In reality Homey was blocked for refusing to follow dispute resolution by instead fake leaving and coming back
2580:
I feel I should wade into this mess since I missed most of the earlier discussion. I am strongly opposed to considering Homey to be under an indefinite community ban. He has unquestionably gone way beyond the pale of acceptable behaviour in recetn weeks, but this does not negate the fact that he has
2406:
Oh, for goodness sake. As things stand, there is no disruption of Knowledge being caused by the Userpage, the contributor's edits are constructive - so where exactly is the problem? That s/he chooses to make a political statement on the Userpage using the first 5 edits in a witty and original manner
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I suppose this claim is more rediculous than the claim that a bullet could go through two people multiple times without even being scratched or having blood on it? Or the claim that the 3 first (and only) large buildings to collapse due to fire all did so on the same day at the same place? What I am
13005:
I am not accusing you of a bad faith revert, but immediately threatening anyone with administrative reports does not help anything. Regardless of whether a user is an administrator, it is not appropriate to assume bad faith, especially when the move had a reasonable edit summary and the user's talk
11783:
Don't resign. If you think you might be using the tools incorrectly, then be more conservative with them until you gain more confidence. From my 15-second glance at that PAIN page, I'd have advised telling both of those guys to cool down, but you did ok. If you get stressed out dealing with that
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That's exactly the problem, my boy, no one can postively state what her reasoning is for the tags because she hasn't provided any evidence. Admins should put forward a credible reason before they smack on a sockpuppet tag. It certainly is improper, and a violation of AGF, to slap on a tag accusing
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No, the only page I am editing with this account that I could not contribute to were this account blocked is this one so I hardly consider that sockpuppetry, this account is totally inactive except for replying on this page and replying to anything on my talk page. If you consider me being able to
7487:
Community ban isn't really on the table actually, since the above conversations show that there is strong dissent against a community ban, probably due to something your forgetting, like my 2 years of editing productively, since I am still convinced that I cannot and will not ever get a fair chance
7421:
And therein lies the rub, the unfortunate side-effect of the arbcom rejecting the case is that means that anyone can reject this "solution" and block me in an instant and this is not binding in any way, shape, or form, beyond those of us involved in this thread or indeed really between you, me, and
7351:
You're not being railroaded. You just don't want to deal with the consequences of your actions. But from my perspective you don't need to agree to any namespace bans as long as you agree to edit from one known account and to have that be enforced. You'd be free to e$ it as you please and build back
7245:
I agree. It sounds like you want to create a new identity, rack up some edits, promptly apply for adminship again, and a month later for bureaucratship. I can sympathize with you wanting a blank slate for editing, but your constant need for more power is very suspicious, and any future applications
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I thought I did, anyway yes I do take responsibility for what I was doing was wholly innapropriate and wrong and I apologize for violating everyone's trust, in my defense of Pegasus1138 though that sock was actually known and permitted by both Jimmy Wales and the arbitration committee in respone to
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Indeed. Jt, I don't believe you would dispute that your actions have been less than appropriate. People are responding to them differently, and at this point the community has not come to any kind of decision -- and I don't suppose that it would be reasonable for you to expect that all of this be
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Doc is, I think, quite right, and his suggestions seem roughly orthogonal with those of Cyde infra. Jtk should be limited to one account, of course, with the provision that his creating a sockpuppet for the purpose of disrupting projectspace will be strongly disfavored; his mainspace participation
5516:
Additional - surely Cydebot could be made to automate the entire process of notifying authors, changing templates on userpages and moving the userbox? Since then their pages will be without red text, most people would be non-the-wiser, and the author would understand why. That way Cyde can continue
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that he used "Barbamama" as an alternate account, and has also indicated that a housemate was the primary user of "Fluffy the Cotton Fish" (although he also posted from that account a few times). Unless Jay has some magical device that can distinguish housemate from housemate and alternate account
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I was responding to your comments on my talk page, but as you wish. I do not agree with your assessment of this situation: I've worked with HotR on Knowledge since 2004, and consider him to be a knowledgeable and productive contributor to the project. I acknowledge that he's made some mistakes in
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Not an admin...but...As the goal here is to create an encylopedia, as long as that is what a user is doing I don't see a problem with it. I am sure you guys know better than I since I haven't followed this all that closely, so if you feel that if he is unblocked he wouldn't be helping to create an
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exist at all? Obviously since refering to it is a personal attack. And I removed the report because it was taken here; notice the edit summary and how many times I've done the same for other reports that are taken to AN/I? I never warned about removing reports, I warned about removing warnings.
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Just because you disagree with a claim, does not make it a strawman. Let's use terms properly if we could. Someone doesn't have to be "academia approved" to be a philosopher. Please. We've gone over this for months and months. No one is going to be unduly influenced in favor of Rand by seeing
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The problem is that even at his newly reduced editing speed there is clearly no scope for full consideration of the relevance of any date links to the context of the article he edits; THAT is where I believe the majority of opposition to these edits has stemmed from. I agree that many articles are
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I do ackknowledge them, but it needs to be there until at least the discussion is over as it is being used in litteraly HUNDREDS of articles. I've even volunteerd to remove all instances my self after the discussion is over if its decided they should be gone. Also about teh discussion part.. i was
8600:
Just to be correct ;-), nothing was said about putting things in your own words and I said "merge" not using information (as opposed to content) that is in one article in another article. In that case it would not be a merge, anyway. It would be using the article as an example or template to write
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Not acceptable..."unless used directly in connection with the publication of this image." As such, this one seems kosher, since the relevant section of the article in question discusses Hilton's article within the magazine and the magazine's decision to use an actress portraying Hilton rather than
8064:
I've always managed to keep Karmafist at arm's length, but I'm not hopeful on his prospect for improvement. He bears grudges against the project as a whole and boasts of vandalism. If I thought that he was likely to go back to editing, I'd welcome Tawker's unblock. As it is, I'm worried that it
7707:
You've seriously violated the community trust in the past, going so far as nominating sock puppets for Admin. I don't see any good reason why you can't continue contributing under you existing user name, or have a conventional name change. If I understand your words correctly, you are using a sock
7637:
This compromise keeps changing. Yesterday Jtkiefer stated he'd stick with that account, and not use any sock puppets. I'd object to him using a sockpuppet. Watching his edits should be the responsibility of the whole community, not one hand-picked admin. I don't see any reason why he should have a
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Jt, the only reason it seems that people will hold permanent grudges is because they do. You burned a lot of bridges, did you really think that people would just ignore it? Your actions have consequences, and one of those is that you don't get a free pass to have a secret identity so you can be an
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Sure, in many cases it really doesn't matter all that much which of the various spellings and forms appears in the article title, as long as you can find the article by slapping on the squigglies after I have moved it to the English form, or whatever. What is totally unacceptable is not to have a
5872:
So, according to the very valid points you are making--no determination has yet been made as to the proper English Knowledge title in the articles I am moving. Therefore, no one has any real grounds for complaint against my moves. The unaccented form has not yet been considered by anyone. If you
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I don't like templates very often. I don't like userboxes at all. I don't like tags, except procedural ones. I don't even like categories all that much. All of that, and yet I've been surprised and unhappy to see the way some people have been speedy deleting these things without using existing
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Also, FYI your post on the talk page is incorrect, all my info is pre-set, so I just add a suffix, and I'm good to go. For clicking "create a account" to submitting my ICP post, on an edit it takes less than 2min., often less than 1. On a create-a-page, it takes less than 3min. I'm pretty sure the
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a meatpuppet. HotR has said that the account was used primarily by someone else in his co-op, and that he made use of the account a few times. Neither of these assertions strains credulity -- and since HotR had stopped using the HotR account at the time, neither 'puppetry charge is applicable to
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First of all I really don't see how you can state that the evidence doesn't support Barbarama and Cotton fish being socks of Homey. They edit in similar ways (although the negative characteristics of Homey are even more pronounced in those socks), they either seem to carry grudges or edit the same
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Please read my post above. Homey could be unblocked a thousand times, he will always be reblocked eventually, because the confidence of the community has gone. KimvdLinde, you are in large measure responsible for this total breakdown in relationships that occurred, because you encouraged him. What
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If I may interject, I have watched this situation looking from the outside. My personal belief is that this is a clique war, and Homey became the casulity. Putting that remark aside, I see no point placing Ex-Homey under a block. This only encourages Homey to re-enter Knowledge under an assumed
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I suspect we're not going to reach full agreement on this matter. In any event, I should clarify that I said his recent behaviour "may have been" unnecessarily provocative, by which I mean that it rekindled animosities that might have been better left dormant for the time being. I do not believe
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I don't know how you distinguish between "unnecessarily provocative" and disruptive. Using your def of disruptive, almost nothing would meet that standard. Look, the situation with Homey is sadly very simple. He has lost the confidence of almost all the editors who edit the pages he inhabits. More
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CJCurrie, please don't post here and on my talk page. I don't want to waste a lot of time discussing Homey. You used to engage in what Homey would call "tag teaming" with him (note: this would be Homey's term for it, not mine), so you're well aware of the trouble he used to cause. Then you stopped
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Why should it be closed? Crossmr brings up some excellent points. Regardless of the situation, what this user did was not something that can be swept under the proverbial rug. Doing nothing sends the message that this kind of behavior on Knowledge is okay in certain situations. Is this the message
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This is not an isolated incident. El-C have done this to me as well (removal of my attempts to resolve disputes with her). She has hard time dealing with critism in a comunicative way. She either drop the whole subject of try to remove her opponent - this at least have been my expiriance. It seems
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WR actually does seem to have a useful purpose. It's where the trolls go to troll and attack each other. Today's big blowup thread is especially fun for me ... it's like watching Hitler's car wreck in slow motion, you know exactly what's about to happen and you wouldn't want to stop it anyway.
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Nice try with the strawman. The dispute is actually leaning towards my argument, not away from it. There is not enough proof that Rand is a philosopher, as only a very rare few academics back this claim. Rand-related articles are currently skewed in her and her followers favor, making all of them
7582:
This shounds mostly workable to me. Someone who knows Jt's new identity just needs to check from time to time to verify that he's keeping to his new promises. Also, obviously, if Jt does decide to run for Admin at some point, I believe that full disclosure would be appropriate AT THAT TIME. Other
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Note that I have no special weight here, other than that I have been especially vocal in my disapproval of Jtkiefer's recent controversial behavior. As such, Jt has referenced me by name above, and accordingly, I am responding. I will grant that "permanent" was perhaps a bit harsh on my part with
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We're at a bit of an impasse then since disclosure while not originally unacceptable to me has been made unacceptable by comments by people who will hold a permanent grudge against me and to answer the accusation that I might do something suspicious that would warrant another checkuser, as I said
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Yes, we reallize that you want to be able to reapply without having to disclose the situation, but that is unacceptable. Many RfA's pass with some opposes and some with a significant amount. If significant time passed where you were able to demonstrate an exemplary edit history and some patience,
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I agreed to use one account and continue to agree to however I do not agree with mandatory disclosure should I request adminship and that's holding me back from full agreement from this. I understand the community has an interest in knowing if I ever go up for adminship again, however statements
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The issue of non-English-alphabet names needs to have a clear policy -- something to be decided from above. I have made it my rule so far to create articles with the native name, creating redirects for all the Anglicized versions. I agree that Gene's policy of anglicizing article names (without
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had requested via IRC that the template be restored. I checked the category linked from DRV, for admins who will undeleted, so long as it is in good faith. So I contacted AmiDaniel. And in turn, AmiDaniel undeleted. I have never previously discussed the matter with any other admin, so I hope this
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Ok, what? I recreated it because I thought that it had been deleted by mistake, since I had received no notice, and there was big red link on my page; I commented as such. I didn't go behind your back. It had nothing to do with you. And yes, I think that "abuse of adminship" is a correct term. ~
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My reading of this situation is a bit different. JayJG had been involved in numerous content disputes with HotR prior to the "sockpuppets" controversy, and his actions have created (at minimum) the appearance of a conflict of interest. To your second point, I don't believe there is a widespread
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These arguments would hold more water if the majority of the new accounts and IP addresses had done anything remotely disruptive. Even if you look at his ArbCom case, which tries to bring up every poor decision over the last several months, I have to agree with CJCurrie that "most of the evidence
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I don't understand why this is even being raised, at this point. He's created all sorts of sockpuppets, many for the purpose of harassing, deceiving, or confusing other editors. He's still pretending some of the sockpuppets aren't him, and he's using his active sockpuppet to try to spread as much
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has been banned, and quite properly so. This person has shown a sick mentality, and I understand the extreme provocation; I just don't think we should ever be too quick to dismiss statements of intention to interfere with someone's personal life as being mere jokes. There have been too many cases
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After advice from other admins, Azskeptic has already removed that threat, and rightly so, making threats such as this sets a poor example for other users. However I will not take any further action; Azskeptic was not acting out of malice, but (over)reacting to the most despicable trolling that I
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The only part on my userpage that mentioned 'rogue admins' was not added by me, but by OiBoy. I did document several very insulting and inappropriate personal attacks such as the one above made by you. Obviously the people catalogued were not proud of their behavior or the page would not have
1576:
There is no unqualified right to hand out warnings at will. Many people consider removing warnings inappropriate, but not in all circumstances. AFAICT, this was an ongoing dispute about the contents of your userpage, and there was existing discussion about it here on AN/I (which seems now to have
7539:
so there's no policy basis to block or ban me either. I hate to wikilawyer and usually avoid doing so but I just had to say that. I don't see how blocking me would be productive either and I suggest that we just drop this and get back to writing an encyclopedia which is what Knowledge is really
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Well, sorry, but then I think the only option is forced disclosure or community ban. Restriction to one account with disclosure if need be was just a compromise to allow you to edit. If you are unwilling to disclose the situation should you choose to try for a position of importance, it would be
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Actually, I would not call it "Shot Down". Mackensen said there were no "extant accounts" other than the 3 we already know of. (And he deliberately did not reveal the new account, if it had been created before the check) I read this as check performed, nothing found beyond the known ones, and
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As for the e-mails, I asked you why you needed them (Fred Bauder was cc'ed on these second series of e-mails), and I even provided you with the diffs at wikipedia that provided the same information you wanted to use the e-mails for, so there was no need for them to become public, as people write
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SonofZion turned up as soon as Homey was blocked for 3RR and started reverting to his versions of articles, then edited articles Homeontherange had edited a long time ago under different names, and the check user evidence was consistent with it being him. SoZ claimed he knew about these articles
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Attempting to dig up dirt on me (not the subject of complaint) is not going to distract from the fact an Administrator bypassed all procedure and deleted a warning tag, completely against the rules (above). This Admin was blanking my userpage and I was not informed of this incident board until
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has a personal vendetta against me. In the past he has blocked me for archiving my talk page, claiming I deleted it. He later unblocked me at the request of another admin. Posting an apology on my talk page. I urge you to look at the topic of the edits posted my him and the others here who will
10308:
It's you. No...just kidding. It was me. (Actually, someone probably does know, but server load fluctuates with server health. A certain amount of this is to be expected, and donations are always gratefully accepted. It has been occurring very little recently, and some of us old timers were
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is really Eddie. I believe it to be a (very bad) imitator. Firstly, the account's edits are not typical of edits I've known Eddie to make (he is relatively consistent in tithe type of edits he makes and general type of article he targets). Also, Eddie has always been very offended by sock tags,
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I have taken the liberty of unblocking him provisionally on that he will not touch dates and he'll come here to discuss this. This is not an unblock I have a stake in -- if in the judgement of anyone this is not kosher or he does something to abuse that trust, I won't be offended if you undo my
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I agree. I'm one of the biggest fair-use complainers around and this image seems perfectly reasonable to me (though missing detailed fair-use rationale). It's a magazine cover used in an article that specifically discusses this cover. The license is correct. It really needs a blatant source
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is not dealing with this honestly in which case consensus for the ban would not be met). I'm sure many editors wouldn't be given an option (b), yet this isn't good enough for you, as above you seem to want to avoid dealing with the consequences of your actions. I can't speak for anyone else but
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Not sure. His actions convince me that he should never be an admin, and any future RfAs should be speedily closed. He should also be limmited to one account. But aside from that, I think probation rather than a ban is in order. There is no evidence (that I know of) that he's been a particularly
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I agree with Sam that a community ban is probably too hasty, but this recurring pattern is definitely disruptive - perhaps ArbCom is the correct way forward. This needs to be resolved one way or another. In response to Megapixie, I am prepared to unblock Bobblewik to allow him to respond here,
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It should also be noted that blocks are meant to be preventive and not punitive and treating my refusal to tell you what nick I am going to be using even though I have sworn to obey policy from now on as a blockable offense would be a big mistake and blatantly against blocking policy, as would
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Good point, I was just making sure I understood your proposal. I'm not entirely certain how CheckUser works (not having the bit), is it only done on comparison of users, or does it reveal all users at a particular IP? I ask because it would make a difference in my confidence of all socks being
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I've had similar problems, so I can endorse this (minus the incivility). Cyde has spent alot of time deleting templates without discussion, without a TfD, and with no better reasons that unclosed polls such as GUS. When questioned, Cyde barely says two words. Since then, a template I use for a
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CJC, perhaps you haven't been following this closely. Homeontherange used the accounts for the purposes of deception and harassment. He turned up at articles his "opponents" edited a lot and tried to start trouble on them; he filed at least one false 3RR report against one of them; he tried to
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I think you may have been mistaken Pilotguy, I was informing a more broad area of Knowledge to inform you of my block to see it was justified or not. Wasn't attempting to break WP:SOCK, but I don't think an IP is really you're sockpuppet, no? And no Cyde, I'm not leaving Knowledge, blanking a
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I have no emotional involvement. All I know is this: things around Homey were always tense, because he got into a lot of conflict. But they were manageable. Then you came along with your craving for trouble, your insults, your wikilawyering, and your process fetishism. You got involved in his
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IIRC a ban was mooted on this page a month or two ago, and I said at the time that it would be very unlikely that I would oppose a community ban on a user whose last articlespace edit was over 4 months ago (at time of writing it would have been 2 or 3). Nothing's changed to alter my opinion.
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I notice that you have informed Jtkiefer about this discussion on his talk page. I suggest that, if he should want to continue editing under a new account, he should contact a bureaucrat and disclose his username. It doesn't need to be generally published, as long as it is known within the
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And the request for checkuser was shot down as a fishing expedition, I have already created my single use account btw, and as per the community imposed terms (and I don't think anyone will disagree if I say that this is the probation version of a community ban decision} of the single account
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That gave it all the apperance of the psycho stalker Wordbomb. Instead it seems to be an ex-admin who has a vendetta against some other admins, and knows how to manipulate the system in what appears to be some kind of malicious game. "Wordbomb" has been actively trashing myself and SV on the
13141:
W.marsh, if you're referring to me, no, I actually wasn't joking. At one point, Moe Epsilon said something on his user page to the nature of (and I'm paraphrasing from what I remember) "I'm leaving, but I'm not going to do anything to get myself blocked because I want a spotless block log."
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The regularity with which this user has attempted to gain "authority" over others here (and the underhanded tactics utilized) indicates (IMO) that he/she should be banned permanently from the Knowledge. There is no place in our community for someone with the mindset that this user displays.
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Given the contentious nature of this controversy, we should be especially wary about jumping to conclusions not supported by the facts. I do not believe it's appropriate to list "Barbamama" or "Fluffy the Cotton Fish" (for instance) as socks, when the evidence clearly points in a different
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I moved this request to the bottom as it seems things in the middle of the page get forgotten. There is definitely some POV pushing and incivility coming from these IP addresses. A rangeblock on 66.239.212.0/24 for 24 hours should act as a wake-up. Unfortunately I can't throw it myself.
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Given that there is widespread consensus that Homeontherange has edited with a considerable number of sock puppets, thus making it difficult for the project to track his activities, there is no need for proof or even necessarily strong evidence that any particular sock puppet is either (a)
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for adminship under a new identity should include your past history in this area. If there has been sufficient time and good behavior then I'm sure people can overlook your past deceptions, but it's not going to happen in 2 months like I think you expect. If you don't agree with the terms
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I would agree to this, on the one additional proviso that, if you ever want to seek RFA on the new account, you must publically reveal the link in the process. This may result in it being impossible for you to ever get adminship back, but I'm afraid that that would have to be part of the
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That is completely unacceptable. Being poncy and condecending is one thing, but calling another editor who's scarcely even been involved in the discussion "a liar or dumbass or both?" I haven't blocked because I'm been involved in the dispute, but this person clearly needs a break. --
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Hilton herself for the cover. The passage you're citing is meant to prohibit the use of magazine covers to illustrate the cover model for articles that don't discuss that model's appearance on/in the magazine, a completely different kind of usage, and one that's obviously not fair use. -
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he can agree to having only one account, there's a possibility he can still be a useful editor (though not an admin or anything with additional trust, apparently). Very sad to see this occur...I think Cyde has an acceptable compromise here. Are you actually intending to forbid him from
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Vary, I would block if I was an admin; is that enough endorsement for you to do it anyway? I am now thinking of a 48-72 hr rangeblock but allowing logged-in editors to edit. That prevents the anon attacks but allows Reneec to edit in her own name if she wants to. Alternatively, try
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Threads on AN and AN/I directly about me would be exempt from this as would RFAr's and RFC's against me of course since even though I don't forsee ever having to use it again I should be able to take part in the dispute resolution procedure if needed. Jtkiefer 00:44, 15 August 2006
11582:
I agree with JohnnyBGood as well. I believe that it does give out persoanl information (though it doesn't give out real names) which could lead to harrassment in the future. Also, an IP has re-added the link. The IP comes from ontario, exactly where Nathan comes from. Coincidence?
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I see 36 links right now). User should be warned with spam1,...,spam4 templates, and blocked if spamming persists, if not for the POV crap. Links should be reverted. I'll see if I can do it tomorrow if they're still there, I have to go offline soon and am not up for it for now.
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Total BS. I have actually contacted the organization and they do not claim any copy right this list of events. You (and El_C) have problem with content that you think is "pro-Israel" . that is all there is to it. You havwe a political agenda and pushing it by claimng "bad edits"
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User has sent me a mail requesting unblock with at best misleading argument. It'll be available to whoever is interested. I am not planning to make a detailed explanation of the multiple issues with this user's editing, as the last thing we want is a harder to spot Leyasu. more
2904:
More to it than that, but based primarily on SimonP's position I am relieving Ex-homey from the condition I imposed on him. He says he may create another account to edit with quietly. Should it be found using checkuser, please leave it alone unless it is doing something wrong.
12045:
Actually I do. I'm chasing EddieSegoura/The Exicornt vandal around at the moment, that's exactly his style, and and... trying... trying... nyyyyyyyrghhhhhhh ah I can't stretch my ABF far enough right now to believe Karmafist is him. Although it is tempting, given the timing.
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Per policy and common practice, the userpage may be blanked, deleted and protected; the talk page may be blanked as a courtesy but will not be deleted, to retain the history of comments, warnings, etc. Even at a blanked/deleted user page, the contribs link will still work.
7447:
Lets get this straight, you were found using sockpuppets abusively, abusing your previous admin powers and you are now presented with two options (a) A community ban (b) And alternative which still has a risk of a community ban (though it since I have no reason to believe
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staying away from closing anything or running for RFA for awhile and I hope that will be satisfactory to everyone. Unless anyone else has any other conditions for me to agree to as soon as I send the email off to Taxman I don't see why this wouldn't be resolved for now.
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mean that the admin is somehow "tainted" and not permitted to deal with user conduct problems with the same user in the future. This is a misconception that comes up frequently in the project's dealings with tenacious troublemakers who game the system. Policies such as
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As usual, there is currently a backlog on AfD, with some articles from August 5th waiting to be closed. Someone may close that AfD anyway, but normally it would be one of those that a lot of admins would quietly pass by on the other side of the street rather than close.
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Its been userfied, if you bothered to read my comment. And this is exactly what I mean. If you bothered to read GUS, there is more of a consensus to leave WikiProject user boxes in the template namespace. Mind if I ask under what criteria you are using to delete these?
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good, particularly when they have valid concerns. You are the one who changed the template without discussion, so it's unfair to play that card! You need to be at least acknowledging the validity of those opposing you are saying, and not automatically dismissing them.
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be available to any blocked or banned editor and the latter will stop as soon as this thread ends, I have also fully rectified my mistakes as best as possible and have apologized for violating policy, I do not see why there would be a benefit to blocking my account.
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in the matter. Whenever I've gone to a longtime problem user's page, it has been lit up like a pachinko board with boxes, and having more than one "joke" box stops being funny and crosses into juvenalia, but we don't have the bones yet for doing anything about it.
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as he possibly can, including making various false and arguably defamatory claims. When faced with an ArbCom case, a responsible editor would not pretend to leave Knowledge, then create a dozen sockpuppets and harass other editors with them. This is just disruption.
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Also, I think letting him freely edit now sends the wrong message to him and other disruptive editors. Why should they bother involving themselves with the arbitration case against them. Just leave and come back with different user accounts and do the same or worse.
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I consider article bans to equate a block (the blocks were rescinded, too); I encourage you to seek clarification from the Arbitration Committee if you dispute this apporach, as I intend to implement it and caution against wheel warring (i.e. without such efforts).
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been censored. Quoting two news sources and excerpting from logs gets twisted into a "manifesto" and a "conspiracy theory." Rather than address the vandalism, which is the subject of the notice, opponents smear me personally to distract from the real complaint.
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Unlikely there socks, both naems are common ("mark", "taylor") and both seem to be good standing users. Likely Mark Taylor was taken so he subst. with Mr, which to me is acceptable as "Mark Taylor" is likely also his name. I dont think anything should be done :)!
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asking that the results of a check user Fred evidently ran be posted. Perhaps Mantanmoreland believes he's entitled to a double standard? As for Zeq, his writing is often unintelligible, if Mantanmoreland really believes my edits were out of line he should go to
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later by an entirely different user. Again, if Admin disagrees he is vandalizing then there is a procedure to remove the tag which does not involve deleting it himself 17 minutes later. Don't attack me because HE broke the rule which is very explicit above.
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possible to take information from a deleted article and put it into another one. GFDL doesn't protect facts or sources. So if someone takes (for instance) a single paragraph, goes and looks up the source, and types it into a new article in their own words we
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in the same place in the list whether the accents are included in the article title or not), and some with the article title in an unaccented version have improper use of diacritics in the indexing sort keys. But quite often the two problems go hand in hand.
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How are you supposed to know who wants the box userfied without a TfD? Are you psychic? You are NOT above the rules. You ignored procedure. Plus, the box was in use by several people, including myself. Or do you not consider me a person? If not, say so now. ~
8542:). His last image upload was October 1, 2005, so I don't think it can be classified as an ongoing problem. In general, however, repeat violators should first be treated gently and advised of the policies, and if they persist, bring it here for investigation. 9895:
I agree that date delinking is often justifiable but the problem is Bobblewik's rapid "carpet bombing" method of doing so. I think some form of mentorship might have some merit as you suggest M62. We await some input from Bobblewik, now that he's unblocked.
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There is certainly an element of community exhaustion of patience at this point, but the arbcom ruling says enforcement of bans may be by blocking, so it's hard for me to see how being banned from an article also counts as a block for enforcement of a ban.
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I support arbitration to examine the entire history and all areas of potential abuse by the editor. For the record, I was seconds from blocking him for his utterly unacceptable attack of JDG , only to find out this was his (not his 1st) "I'm leaving" note.
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I have deleted and protected the talk page. I would ask that it remains that way, unless there is a clear consensus of arbs to do otherwise. The existence of this discussion is not in the interests of any party involved, or of wikipedia. Let's move along.
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or 'crat, and no commenting on other candidacies, not commenting/voting on anything else either) instead of his setting up another identity which then has to be managed/monitored somehow (and without fishing around it might be hard to do that anyway...) ++
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With the caveat that this is indeed the wrong place for this, I'd be against any sort of icon propogation in links. It's decoration (which is avowedly against fair use, as we all now know), and even if it's a free-use image, it's tacky and prejudicial. --
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I'm not saying dont use them, i'm saying the objectionists dont need to use them . I've jus had an idea tho.. would it be possible to have some css so those who dont wish to see colours see teh default and all they have to do is paste css to m-b.js?
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Further, he is not much used to wikipedia, and hence his reverts are to a very old version, which might be stored in his PC. He is just deleting and then copy-pasting the article from his PC, which contains several spelling mistakes, and fabricated
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is not reason for hysteria. The subsequent edits suggest to me that this is an editor who is probably here to do positive work. Let's not alienate someone over a non existent "problem" that is being imagined for no good reason. Whatever happened to
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it's not as simple. We privilege competent and important sites for being competent and important. This is a content dispute like any other, to be addressed both on a case-by-case basis and by policy debate (what sort of icons do we want, at all?).
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You can click on the history tab at the top of the article to see all the times it has be edited, and clicking on a particular date and time will show you what that version looked like. You can certainly fix it yourself if no one beats you to it.
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impression of a situation when anyone reading the talk page for the template can see what you actually said. I am baffled why you try such a gambit. I am going to be blunt, I no longer assume good faith and I consider you a danger to Knowledge. --
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Gene claims on his talk page that he moves the pages (rather than creating the necessary redirect) to make a point to the original page creator that they should have created a diacriticless redirect earlier. As mentioned by Martinp, this breaches
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Sounds fair to me, I'll only edit via this account without any namespace restrictions, though I think I'll for now just vote on FPC's and not close them, and stay as far away as possible from RFA for the most part. Jtkiefer 02:08, 15 August 2006
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where it has actually happened. In the circumstances, I'm not saying any action should be taken against Azskeptic, who obviously realised quite quickly that s/he'd done the wrong thing - just making a general observation to my wise colleagues.
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Cyde's comment, while I found it funny, probably did go a bit too far (but if this is indeed a sockpuppet, I couldn't really care less). Still I don't see the point of a block except to slap him on the wrist... not really what blocks are for.
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Actually, we should only delete links that provide personal info. Nathan should think twice about what he writes about his imaginary Wikipedian love life but he doesn't quote any personal communications or give out personal info on that page.
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No, of course not. I am, however, suggesting a compromise. I'm quite sure that although the lack of due process would still irritate, a fair ammount of upset would be reduced if the authors were kept informed and no-one's userpage was broken.
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Second of all, Homey has gotten into multiple disputes with almost every administrator who touches the articles that he frequents. I really don't think we disqualify all these people based on your notion of "perceived conflicts-of-interest".-
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was in response to a ridiculous allegation by another user, who invoked the Bible in his support. Aknorals could possibly have been more restrained, but under the circumstances it was mild; this is certainly not worth taking any action over.
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When I saw that comment of his, I realized Karmafist was up to no good. Either he was attempting a malicious use of sockpuppets, or he was lying about it, possibly to see if he could get the checkusers to violate a bunch of users' privacy.
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you know. He's jocular, although angry, and saying that the fellow needed psychiatric help. That's help, not incarceration. It's still inappropriate, and it's well removed, but let's take it easy with this "everything is a threat" bit.
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That's the insidious thing, the rationale for these icons is that Musicbrainz has made the icon itself GFDL. All we need next is for Discount Viagra Spam dot Com to make some GFDL icons and start spewing those in the encyclopedia too.
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before this account is only being used to respond to these threads and to notes on my talk page and on my undisclosed I'm going back to my basics and trying to get some article editing done in peace. Jtkiefer 18:46, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
6464:(should have been RFCU). I definitely feel there should be consequences over this, but a community ban seems a bit much. So ArbCom to get official status of some consequences/limits, and RFC to find any other current problem socks. - 6216:
I have indefinitely blocked Pegasus1138 as an admitted sockpuppet engaged in devious activity. I would support a long block -- even an indefinite one -- on Jtkiefer, but will not impose it myself, given his history of hostility to me.
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As usual, you just assert things, with no evidence linked to it. You even now claim that some unpublished e-mails will provide the evidence to that accusation. So you want to continue the claim that my involvement was essential for the
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I should note that I am suggesting a compromise until such a time as this matter is properly settled, rather than a compromise as the solution. That is not to say that the compromise cannot be a solution, but such a think is doubtful.
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Actually you are mistaken, nothing she did was inappropriate. What was inappropriate was for you to post something here saying she placed the tag purely based on intuition when in reality you had no idea if that was really the case.-
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I have left a message on his talk page as well. Regardless of his motives - and I believe, from long experience, Gene has the best interests of the project at heart - this is not the way to go about things, and only inflames people.
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I just blocked the above IP with Karmafist's above threat and then immediately got my user page vandalized. It is a reasonable assumption that this occured from Karmafist. Based on this, I have no choice but to endorse an indef ban.
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As an outsider looking at this I also agree with this interpretation. I don't see anything overly like vandalism being done by Oiboy77. Also I would question users he's in obvious conflict with placing, "warnings" on his talk page.
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SimonP. Could you give me some idea what you think the proper sanction is for abusive sockpuppets made to break rules, harass perceived advocacies, and avoid sanctions being handed in several arbitration cases on Homey's main user
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Agreed. This guy is a master of double standards. In that 'manifesto' he blatantly implies that I am an Israeli government agent, but doesn't say it outright, obviously in a weak effort to avoid being blocked for personal attacks.
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I'm not gnetworker, I guess this is another example of your intuition misfiring. I found out about it by looking at your recent edits, how else? Please don't say you're above scrutiny, the special contribs function is there for a
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bureaucratship. If he doesn't come forward within a month or so, I guess we assume he's not interested. If he is then detected at some time in the future (due to problematic behavior) then we'll deal with that when it arises. --
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Then why was the checkuser result "likely" but not "confirmed" Jayjg - you never did answer my question about whether checkusdr showed "same system" or not? And yes, there was a poster from Sweden who signed himself "sonofzion"
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Tada, and we just bagged one of those sockpuppet accounts that Karmafist claims was "ready to go up for adminship". LOL. He's not going to have too much success with these if he can't resist slandering Kelly Martin and me.
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I wouldn't care if it were Feed the Children.org, personally, as that's them, and we're us. We don't priviledge links, and putting an identifying graphic in front of a link is priviledging or deprecating. We don't do that.
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Well I hope it isn't, but this sounds a bit like Karmafist to me. Karmafist was bragging on WR about how his socks voted for Phaedriel, which this user did. I hope its just a coincidence that they both live in New Hampshire.
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I've had quite a bit to do with Eddie, right back to the original Exicornt article; reverting his edits, helping compile the Eddie sock category, etc. He has also emailed me a few times over the last year. I do not believe
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This is also my view. Looking through the edit histories of his alternate accounts they, for the most part, have done little disruptive and almost all the contributions have been totally legitimate. If another account like
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so an admin can take a look and leave the appropriate warning? I'm not sure if there's much else regular users can do, but I'm not really familiar enough with that sort of thing to be able to help too much, unfortunately.
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So wait, you're suggesting that Cyde's bot can continue to ignore process now? I'm still waiting for another admin to tell me that what Cyde is doing it correct. That admins can ignore consensus and do what they please.
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I really don't know how you can positively state what her reasoning is for the tags. Anyways, they were suspected and not confirmed which means that Slimvirgin did nothing improper even if your accusations were true.-
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necessity of leaving more descriptive edit summaries or talk page messages on your delinkings (with reasonings on why you removed a particular link) and throttl the number of such edits down to something below 6 in a
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The process works. If someone wants it userfied, it is. If no one wants it userfied, it stays deleted. There's no point in userfying hundreds of templates that no one cares about and that no one is going to use.
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To the specific point, there seems to be some disagreement as to whether or not these alternate accounts can be described as "Sockpuppets" -- Ex-Homey has acknowledged using some of them on a per-day basis, but only
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Not true. If anyone has a way to create the article as it was you are welcome to check if the first sentence apear anywhere on the web - It was not. There for it does not qualify for speedy delete as per section 8.
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Before registering, he edited for a few hours as an IP user 140.203.12.4 and 193.136.242.251 . One IP is an open proxy from Moscow and the other is an open proxy from Portugal, using open proxies is a trademark of
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Did you notice that the pages he edited, when read as a sentence, suggest that the Bush family is responsible for the September 11 attacks and John F. Kennedy assasination? That cannot be construed as coincidence.
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I asked them all to leave it till dispute was over however they all ignore. I can only think there nitpicking, the fact remains that: its useful, does no harm and serves a purpose. Also no one makes users use it.
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The usage of the cover is correct in this case; the cover is being discussed in an entire paragraph and is not just there for pure decoration. But I might suggest to scale the actual image down just a little bit.
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ArbCom is probably a cleaner way of going about this than a straight ban; but the various sockpuppets should be blocked outright. There's no need to risk having some of them slip under the radar at this point.
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What about the fact that this is not the first time this little trouble has arisen? There should be something definitive done to resolve this, whatever it is. It doesn't seem right to keep letting this happen.
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are not wanted, just that certain behavior is not wanted. All discussion here seems to be related to project-space problems; can you handle being "just" an article editor for a while, to re-establish trust? --
13060:, and there's no diff in the block log to explain it either. So I'm inclined to call this an unjustified block, but I don't really know the circumstances. Surely we don't block users with no explanation? 6955:
probation I have created my secondary account, and as of now am limiting this account to this AN/I thread, my user, talk, and subpages, and the pending RFAr against me. Jtkiefer 18:18, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
6365:. I agree that his potential future RfAs should be speedily closed and he should be limited to one account, but I don't think an indefinite ban is necessary - I'd say ArbCom. Sorry if I'm out of place... 6360:
Hi, everyone. I must say that I disagree with a community ban. I know I'm not an admin, but I have just finished looking over the situation out of my own curiosity, and I don't believe that he's actually
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CJCurrie asked me a question. I answered it. There is no need for YOU to get involved in everything. Please stop responding when I discuss issues with others. I want to have nothing more to do with you.
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You sadly miss the point of the Israeli apartheid articles. They were simply a part of Homey's disruption, not the cause of this situation. He has been editing and behaving disruptively for a long time.
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I think that's a good solution, though it might be prudent to use CheckUser periodically to make sure no account other than the known one is being used. Given his past history with socks, I don't think
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Yes. Given his use of sockpuppets to get muliple votes on at least three previous RFAs (that we know of), there need to be some consequences and provisions to ensure the integrity of the process. --
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of people back Rand because she claims to be a philosopher; in fact, most Randists do. It's not until they learn that they are dealing with a pseudo-philosopher that they stop backing her ideology.
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disappeared?) in which several administrators were already involved. Given these circumstances, the appropriate course of action would have been to engage in the discussion here, or initiate the
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How is "please don't" either uncivil or threatening? The "ambiguous" part is because you said there were 4 support / 0 oppose when it was clear there wasn't universal support for the idea. --
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I've left a warning on his user page. If he continues I think a 1 hour block would make sense (I don't want to block for longer because this is minor and Gene is a generally good contributor).
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I wish they did not have to, and i my self have honestly tried to stay out of disputes but said users are not helping by messing up pages when the variable is being used in hundreds of pages.
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Fluffy the Cotton Fish, but insists it was an "alternate account" (i.e. one not being used for the purposes of deception) and not a sockpuppet account. How do you square these various claims?
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about. I will retain access to this account for a little while but won't use it other than to reply here or on my talk page if needed then I plan on scrambling the password and leaving it.
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I'd support either an indef block or if consensus fails that, a new, longer block than last time, as there's no evidence of any desire to work within the concerns that others have raised. ++
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the same people, just using "alternate accounts". In fact, he claimed every single one of his sockpuppets was an "alternate account", except the one he tried to pawn off on Dervish Tsaddik.
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This whole thing only proves that there are many sad lonely people spending whole their lifes in front of their computers - and wikipedia is now what public web-based chatrooms used to be.
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So, try this. Put "Taniko" in the box on your Knowledge page. Then click on either "Go" or "Search". Do you find an article dealing with a weaving technique? As I write this, you won't.
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Paul, is this you abusing a reporting board to accuse Jay of abusing reporting boards, just as you made a personal attack while warning about personal attacks, and indeed removed a report
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Deleted by Doc for now. I'm afraid that neither Nathan nor his friends understand the first rule of holes. The more he writes, the more it appears he was not so misunderstood after all.
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I further note that the Airport Vandal's history of subtle vandalism to airport/airline articles and destinations is consistent with karmafist's admission to committing subtle vandalism.
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and wrongs of the history. Try to be polite to everybody even if you feel provoked. Let me or another admin know if you encounter any further attacks like this, but don't reply in kind.
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If CAD6DEE2E8DAD95A creates a new account, other block reasons may come into play: he's Swedish and amuses himself by making "Swedish" jokes such as beginning an otherwise civil post at
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We've already seen interesting allegations of Karmafist being or being associated with the airport vandal. It wouldn't surprised me if there was a vandal cabal somewhere out there. --
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Mathew, I think you're still failing to see the concerns of other editors. You added the "Colour" and "TColour" params to the template. Why did you add them if not to use them? Thanks/
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I have contacted the original banning admin to see if he can lend some insight. However, since you made a broad sweep of switching the sock tags on the socks of YaR GnitS, and since it
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I do a lot of RC patrol, sometimes anons come and point out my mistakes (I do make them, from time to time). Anyway, I'm home now. Thank you to everyone who helped keep my page clean.
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presented in the case is extremely dubious." Certainly any account that is being disruptive should be blocked, but blocking one that is only making goods edits is purely vindictive. -
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by saying Hi to random users. It seemed like a good idea. Since I recieved complaints that it might confuse people, I've decided to instead put my efforts towards welcomming new users.
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Please point me to the edit where AMIB says "I support your change" or words to that effect - if he said it, it must be in the edit history. So all I require in response is a link. --
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does not justify the deletion of anything except resulting redirects. The deletion of userboxes in templatespace that are not divisive and inflammatory is not justified without a TfD.
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Yes, we e-mail, already from the beginning that I was at wikipedia. So? You e-mailed me too several times, and I am sure you e-mail with a bunch of other editors as well, so what? --
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Slimvirgin, please stop bashing people. I have read your post, and for me, likely is not equivalent with consistent with, especially not when Swedisch IP's sign of with Sonofzion. --
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More to it than that, but based primarily on SimonP's position I am relieving Ex-homey from the condition I imposed on him. He says he may create another account to edit with quietly.
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Charles, I'm pretty sure that Matthew wasn't saying that he thought MIB and co. supported his idea -- he seems to have been complaining that someone else deleted his "Oppose" heading
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Correct. Now if you check his talk page, you will see that this is not the first time he has broken the rules. Also his total denial of anything having happened is very weird. See
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for the 3rd or 4th time by CyberSkull who just sneaks it in every time he works on the template, and just shrugs that MusicBrainz is nonprofit when called on his sneaking it again.
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I understand, and I'm no more enchanted with these things than you are, but, pending an injunction or something clear about what they can and cannot be, we really don't have much
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I wonder if he speaks English at all. In any case he has not responded to a single warning so I'll block him long enough to wake him up to the fact that he is not being helpful.
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changes! I will assume good faith and assume you have some form of learning difficulty that affects your reading comprehension - the only other explanations involve bad faith. --
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I don't get it. How is "don't run sockpuppets and you can edit in any namespace" a compromise? As far as I'm aware every Wikipedian is operating under exactly these constraints.
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Additional data point: Although I was previously aware of the Airport vandal, I'm pretty sure I have never reverted it, blocked it or in any other way attracted its attention.
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Gene, how many other people need to tell you to stop? Or do we need to get in the business of blocks and RfCs? No one wants that, everyone thinks your intentions are well, but
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Neither of these statements constitutes a falsehood, and the worst HotR is guilty of is not adding "... although I posted from the account a few times" in the first instance.
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Interesting coming from someone with only three contributions. Obviously you are either from another IP or a user who does not want to post these messages under their name.
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Is there anything in their edits that makes you think it is meant to be an impostor and not a n innocenet user name? It might in any case be blockable for being confusing.
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My thoughts exactly. I was on the verge of defending him until he posted through a proxy. But now I know better and knowing is half the battle (queue the GI Joe music).
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I'm going to give him a 1 week block. This is beyond a joke. I have been giving people blocks for fraudulently switching "votes" on RfA, AfD and also faking signatures.
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The userbox was simply deleted, not substed or userfied. It was just GONE, leaving a red link. I had to recreate it myself on user space. Now do you see the problem? ~
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Just to clarify: Barbamama was created for the sole purpose of stalking and harassing me and Zeq but mainly me, as can be seen by reviewing its seven hours of existence.
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hateful belief I'd need to think about it, and would like to see community input first. That's not the case, of course, with either of these accounts. Good riddance.
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is in pain!! Can no-one provide succor? "Is there no balm in Gilead? Is there no physician there? Why then has not the health of the reporting board been restored?"
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Hm, I actually don't know how to deal with repeat offenders, but I imagine a warning of some kind might be appropriate. Perhaps you could try leaving a note on the
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using yet another sockpuppet. I did not realise that it was an Admin closing the discussion. How on earth can he move the page without closing the dicussion first?
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Edwards suggestion is limited, however a template has been created for colours however it is not worth implementing when it will be reverted. Thus a waste of time.
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Al those things you mention in the numbered bullets would be correct if you made a simple redirect! And for the record, Gene moved 2 more pages after posting here.
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reason, it is the single Hungarian place in its category without the correct diacritics, and all the internal links point to a redirect. This is not a good thing.
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Since when is asking someone to stop being a dick a personal attack? Is asking someone to stop being confrontational a personal attack? If it is then why does
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Indeed, but I think it's an attempt at showing good faith on my part in me accepting using only one account if nothing else. Jtkiefer 19:10, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
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I am not opposed to the linking, since I have used template-links for FOTW, but the main issue for discussion is the little icon that appears next to the link.
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Hmmmm... A bit of a stretch. This is an obvious clique war in which Homey was out numbered. Is this the same Zeq whose perfect behaviour is illustrated here.
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Yes, Dervish Tsaddik pretended to be Sonofzion, in order to assist Homey in sowing confusion; however, Sonofzion never used a Swedish IP, so that's irrelevant.
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I oppose giving him free reign. Homey and his various incarnations have been a constant source of sockpuppetry, 3RR violations, ceaseless RFArs and disruption.
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justified in some circumstances. I think we need more input from the community on what to do with this user; I'd mentor him if anyone approves of this idea. --
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Not one of mine, sorry to burst the bubble of anyone who expects to find more socks, Pegasus and Thygard were my only two. Jtkiefer 19:35, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
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Then you don't know what "consistent with" means. Please stay out of this. Every single thing you get involved in ends up with people at each other's throats.
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because of a post on a discussion board for leftwing students, but he refused to say which one. It was clearly a sock or meat puppet and we don't distinguish.
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IP has indicated this has happened before, and I don't see any blocks on this person. That is something that seems highly inappropriate about this situation.--
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process, not issuing a warning. Labelling someone a vandal is not helpful, and will likely antagonise anyone who would otherwise be sympathetic towards you. --
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I'm not disputing that Barbamama and (sometimes) FtCF were alternate accounts of HotR. What I'm disputing is that they should be classified as sockpuppets.
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Also, not sure if the IP posted on the account's talk page is correct, but if it is, it wouldn't seem to be constant with Eddie's location and previous IPs.
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I think they are waiting for this thread to die, since blocking me would prevent me from responding here, once this thread is done by all means please block
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defamatory accusation'. Oiboy77 committed an intentional and in my eyes quite serious act of vandalism. Pure, plain vandalism. There is no justification. --
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forgotten at the drop of a hat: if you want this to be let go eventually, the first step is to own it, that is, accept responsibility for the mistakes made.
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The 'context' is that Sarastro777 is irate that his 'manifesto' was removed from his userpage, and is now working at a block for disruption and trolling. --
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What else should I call it? You have gone against a poll, which is not closed, and has current consensus to remain in template namespace. For reference:
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I've shortened it to a week. If it recurs as a vandal after that, then it's probably not a rolling IP and can be blocked for much longer (say 6 mo.).
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I don't know what you're up to, or what you hope to achieve, but this is the result, and I can only hope you'll stop before you make things even worse.
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First, may I say, please don't troll. El_C is a responsible admin and there is no evidence of vandalism, therefore your misusing the warning templates.
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WikiProject has been moved to another namespace. This leaves me with the notion that it was done so an admin can get his/her way, and be done with it.
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I have nothing against MusicBrainz, or against external links to MusicBrainz, or against templates for external links to MusicBrainz (and IMDb, etc.).
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So long as this involves pointing out gross policy violations on Zeq's part, I find great benefit in his participation outside of arbitration pages.
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Kim has made very significant contributions to the encyclopaedia, and to my mind, a noticeboard is not the place for two-way conversations. Regards,
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in 48 hour block. A.O. has shown that he doesn't understand Wiki Policy. How ever if this member is a possible sock then can we run a check user?
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is an excellent place to start for anyone who wishes to assess this situation. I would really appreciate some attention in this matter. Thanks! ·
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No, they're established fact, and that should be kept in mind. Sonofzion did not edit "from a Toronto area proxy", nor did it edit from Sweden. And
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Yes, I made them aware they where in the support section (patetntly obvious) also, thank you for adding more proof of his uncivility (threats etc)
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Actually, there are almost no places where you will even notice that the article has been moved, when it comes to finding information in Knowledge.
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You're referring to "Barbamama" in the third person ("him"). But that's you or Wordbomb--I personally don't care. Cyberstalking is cyberstalking.--
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There is no copyright notice on this article and under fair use it is prefectly fine to include this article in an encyclopedia such as Knowledge.
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FYI, at least one other (newly promoted) admin, whom I don't believe had any issue with KarmaFist, was also hit with airport vandalism yesterday.
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I don't see a big issue, I thought we have guidelines (see the RAN incident) that we name the article with the most common English spelling, e.g.
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I am strongly opposed to this as there is strong consensus for him to be under a community ban for his use of sockpuppets and other behaivor see
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I checked, confirmed that it was a damaging link, and deleted it. Although... I accidentally deleted a lot of revisions along with it... hehhhh.
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my talk page. The guy is as innocent as a bank robber in plain daylight with 1000 witnesses. Yet he accuses me, who discovered it first (as did
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Sockpuppets are amusing but you also have to deal with them. Better to have fewer disruptive sockpuppets and more people working on articles.
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trust with the community. That seems like a reasonable solution to remove the problems but allow you to continue the good editing you do. -
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I wouldn't block so quickly, I would wait to see if he is either willing to change usernames or prove that he is the same person as the IP
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It doesn't give out "personal information" in the sense that usually merits deletion, but Doc has protected it so I guess that's his call.
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Is there a certain posting habit you're noticing here? Are these IPs proxies? Because they don't seem to be in the same block or anything.
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This magazine cover image is not to illustrate the playboy magazine, but to illustrate Paris Hilton. So, once again. Let's get this fixed.
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f) the accounts were not being operated by a single person though they were using a shared semi-public IP in the computer room of a co-op.
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I'm aware that HotR has specifically denied most (if not all) of these charges, and that they remain unproven. In any event, Ex-Homey was
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I don't see anything wrong on that userpage; at it's current version, it is just listing his edits/milestones, which many Wikipedians do.
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It does to me too. At best, if the two usernames belong to different users, VandalismCorrecter should consider changing his username. --
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This statement is accurate: FtCF was a different user, although HotR has acknowledged that he also posted from the account a few times.
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the accounts were not being operated by a single person though they were using a shared semi-public IP in the computer room of a co-op.
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CJCurrie, in a previous post on August 4 to AN/I about his sockpuppetry, Homey explicitly denied being Fluffy the Cotton Fish. He wrote:"
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As you've been counselled by multiple editors, try dispute resolution. There's no administrative action that will help out here. Shell
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Notice the threats? Thats uncivil. He is giving orders saying i cant revert, now i'm not conscripted so i dont have to obey his orders.
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It qualifies for a speedy for copyvio/plagiarism; let's not play process games, especially when these are themselves, out of process.
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facilitate this pile on. It will be the usual suspects. Because two people have different opinions on topics one is NOT a vandal. See
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Ok, but we do not need icons, IMHO, to denote links to random websites. Just remove them. If there is any more problems, come see us.
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Given the fact that you have no problem in abusing reporting boards, I imagine you would also find warning yourself equally amusing.
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It changes !NOTHING! unless called!! Does nobody understand? The bland gray is !STILL THERE! and only changed if variables are CALLED
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He then proceeded to remove warnings from his talk page (3RR for his 3RR vio, WR0/1, 3RR and attack) calling my 3RR warning trolling
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Thanks for your help with my question, I am still trying to resolve the issue. When I went to tag the image (Playboy_March_2005.jpg)
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I agree. Where is the process? A large portion deleted by Cyde did not fall under the speedy criteria. Cyde says it goes against the
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his previous account was voluntarily blocked. This doesn't correspond with any definition of "sockpuppetry" that I'm familiar with.
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Actually I did. I just didn't realize that IP didn't belong to whom it had been tagged with. A warning is definitely in order here.
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board; now that it has been "abused", how will it recover without proper therapy? Do you know of any support groups that can help?
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Fred Bauder unblocked you so you could specifically participate in arbitration only, not edit war over notices on your sockpuppets
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I still fail to see how you can call this major. a) its optional b) no one forces you to use it c) it alters the design in no way
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I think that's a very accurate analysis of it actually, so hopefully that can be put to rest. Jtkiefer 18:28, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
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Your comments are certainly not out of place. (Particularly since you are agreeing with me - which shows your inate wisdom ;).) --
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The original cause Homey's conflicts were not "opposing views", but POV editing and outrageously aggressive behavior on his part.
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consensus that HotR "edited with a considerable number of sock puppets". He has acknowledged creating one-day alternate accounts
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is running an unauthorised bot), not some officially community sanctioned imposition. Those comments also made reference to the "
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so he can respond ? He feels that the block was unjustified given that he was operating within the restrictions imposed on him.
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CJ, how do you know which was a sock puppet and which a meat puppet? Also, as you know (and as Homey as an ex-admin must know),
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with the apparently meaningless phrase "Hey Jude", linked to the Beatles song. (In Swedish: "Hej Jude" = "Hi, Jew", har, har.).
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It's also a blatant indicator that this editor likely has little interest in stowing his conspiracy theories and POV issues. --
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Why does every dispute you are involved in have to esculate like this? This is what people are complaining about in your RfC.
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A redirect does not move a page to a name inconsistent with all the other related articles in its category, unlike your moves.
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and that the debate was getting peanut butter in his chocolate, or putting opposition in his support section, or something.
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What? Where have i said i took his comments as support? If you read the articleyou may notice i didnt even count him AT ALL!
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A redirect does not require a team of editors to waste their time reverting your contributions needlessly, unlike your moves.
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and harass others at their talk pages. Again, another opportunity from the community squandered. I've reinstated your block.
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Once a block is done it cannot ever be undone, at least in terms of the block log. This explanation doesn't make sense. --
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As mentioned, the Arbitrators have been informed of this (and other) incident(s), and they will render their decision soon.
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I support you both ethically and legally there, but that I would have said "theft." I was responding to the word "any" in "
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It's sad to see people calling each other "Fatck." When will they realize that being fatck is simply how some people are?
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The fact that an admin has taken action against an editor (through blocking, requesting checkuser, tagging socks, etc) does
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Meanwhile, Jtkiefer asserts that he has a new account; so why hasn't the Jtkiefer account hasn't been blocked indefinitely?
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It's an interest to me, though I'm not asking you to restore the conversation. Fredil Yupigo 02:32, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
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outlined, then I would propose that your other account be revealed and blocked, and you be restricted to editing as user
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Just talk about it politely with him, ask him to read WP:EL for extlink policy, and yes, dmoz.org is a good suggestion.
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Update: Looks like someone already got there while I was typing, although I'm curious what turns out to have happened.
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reading through this thread, this seems to wearing a bit thin and perhaps we should consider withdrawing option (b). --
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restricted to participation on the arbitration case and from a procedural standpoint he should not have been blocked.
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He never said he supported or opposed, nor did i say i said he supported or i say that AMIB supported it on the talk.
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sockpuppet can be confirmed by CheckUser. CheckUser is not a magic crystal ball, it's just another piece of evidence.
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was a Dervish Tsaddik sockpuppet, "using a Toronto area proxy" or anything else, and none of the posts by the account
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This seems rather minor a problem for an indefinite community ban. Has anyone thought of bringing an ArbComm case?
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After my moves, entering the English alphabet form in the "Go" box works as well, something that wasn't true before.
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and remove the cleanup notice I added and go to the request for undeletion page and request that the unencyclopedic
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A checkuser request isn't harrassment. Btw, readers might be interested to read Barbamama/HotR's first sentence in
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Btw, Jayjg, what exactly is your rationale for listing "Sonofzion" as a HotR sock, when this was never confirmed?
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I meant the entirity of your argument is one. You are trying to make a simple content dispute look like a holy war.
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No actually there was an oppose section which ed wiped (would it not of been better to put his comments in there -
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I am changing the other sockpuppet tags to "alternative account" tags, following the example of Mantanmoreland and
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Well, now they have verified that they are the same person (the User and the IP), so I think we can let this go. —
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User:Fluffy the Cotton Fish and User:4thright, for instance, were not the same person who used User:Homeontherange
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I would agree quite strongly. Being rude to a sock only encourages the creation of more disruptive attack socks.
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This is a picture perfect RFAR situation and the living example of a thing not to be done by head nods on AN/I.
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Just revert it like it was normal spam. Plus, it is a violation of fair use rules to use images in this manner.
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Fair enough. For the record: virtually all of the paragraphs were simply lifted by Zeq from the aforementioned
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What is the point of this comment? I have already sought clarification from the Committee, as I mention above.
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someone of being a sockpuppet without the necessary evidence. I'm sure if someone did that to you you'd agree.
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It is not acceptable to use images with this tag in the article of the person or persons depicted on the cover.
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I don't see enough evidence of the kind of persistent disruption that normally motivates an indefinite block.
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of GUS. I dont seem to see this under CSD either. This appears more like an admin's opinion rather than policy.
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and as engineering is a four year program the likelihood is he started going to Queen's sometime after I left.
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recent times, but I do not believe that anything he's done merits punishment on the level of a community block.
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Bobblewik, you have potential - anyhow, I've got a solution, leave a message on my talk page for details... --
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A redirect does not move the page does not move the page to an arbitrary transliteration like your moves do -
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Thank you for taking time to look at this. Again, I apologize for the complexity of my posts here so far. ·
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so I no longer have access to either account, nor is there an email address set for either account. Jtkiefer
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isn't removed from the list by Tuesday 08/15 12:00am GMT, YaR GnitS & co. will double its efforts daily!
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articles as Homey's "enemies", and as far as I know checkuser seems to all but confirm who the puppeteer is.
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And again you assume your statements are understood to be true instead of backing them with evidence. Yes,
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Why would you bring me up, and why would you even comment, if you don't know where my evidence comes from?
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Considering that Pegasus dissappeared with a very similar claim, I still think an RFCU would be in order.
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RFC? Maybe a straight checkuser would be more effective in actually finding out what his other socks are?
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always questionable). In any event, I don't believe that it's sufficient procedural grounds for a block.
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I think it was meant mostly as a joke. Accounts with spotless block logs go for more on eBay, you know. --
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No problem with the unblock - see below, just my slow typing speed (why was there no edit conflict ???) --
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Thanks for your note. You've been blocked indefinitely as a sockpuppet along with your proxies. Cheers,
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than that, I am content to let Jt vanish into the mists of anonymity providing he keeps his promises. --
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I think it would be quite irresponsible for us to Assume Good Faith on your part after your behavior. --
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remains a redlink, whereas if you had called it to the attention of someone who had actually edited the
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Which is more important: the disruption part or the point-proving part? And what point is being proven?
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Sigh. Checkuser is exactly what I meant. I just typed the wrong acronym. Sorry for any confusion. -
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A redirect does not cause multiple double redirects which you don't bothered to fix, unlike your moves.
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HotR wasn't FtCF, but he used the account a few times. This isn't a contradiction. (and see below).
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comment about taking matters off-wiki into users' real life has to be treated seriously in my opinion.
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I do find the irony of his making this post on this board amusing, but perhaps the irony escapes him.
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This user is almost certainly a sockpuppet. The name and subjects of interest really ring a bell... --
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I'm rather annoyed that you kept on recreating it behind my back hoping I wouldn't notice, by the way.
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just to get rid of them when they shouldn't have been created in templatespace in the first place. --
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What would be wrong with putting WikiProject userboxes as subpages of the WikiProject? That makes it
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After my moves, all links from forms with accents still work and still get you to the proper article.
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possible that we let someone unbloodied handle any potential problems with Karmafist from now on? -
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if you want it deleted. And please stop putting warnign tags on articles and article talk pages. --
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assuming you have community consensus for a community block as there is not widespread support and
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other more valid reason to one of the policies. Instead of what appears to be abuse of adminship.
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It is very, very important to note that I moved the page back because I thought it was vandalism.
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the RFA/RFB incident that happened between the two accounts. Jtkiefer 18:35, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
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http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Template:MusicBrainz_album&diff=next&oldid=41410972
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No, my only interaction with "Homey" was being harassed/stalked by his "Barbamama" incarnation.--
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Uhh, I said I wasn't inclined to block at all...even if they don't reply about being the ip. ;)
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I agree that it's not 100% certain, but the circumstantial evidence is too much to just ignore.
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Jayjg's accusations above are opinion, not established facts -- that should be kept in mind. --
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trying to say is, coincidences happen everyday. People need to be more understanding of this. --
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Well, currently its indefblocked by me...either its an impostor, or an inappropriate username.
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CC-NC, making it nonfree, and who knows what will eventually happen with it. This sounds like
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by multiple people at multiple wikis regarding pages that use a large number of templates. --
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Deleted copyvio, again. If Zeq is to continue to plagiarize, he will be blocked from editing.
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I would agree. The whole section starting with my request should be stricken from the record.
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He obviously doesn't care much about whether his edits are helpful so I will block him indef.
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and was concerned about a possible copyright infringement due to it's usage on Paris's page.
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I've always been uncomfortable with "Fagstein", as well, though he seems to be a good user.
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seem to be disrupting Knowledge. However, the user is most definitely gaming the system. --
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If you cant be botherd to read the talk dont bother, i made them AWARE i did not INTERPRET!
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Knowledge:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive125#Personal Attack by User:Sarastro777
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policy, as I pointed out on the user's talk page, but I've no great wish to pursue this. --
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and other similar claims, I would not object to a liberal use of RfCU to search for socks.
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is what I'm talking about. Twelve socks and counting, and this one's not even banned yet.--
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have ever encountered. Any rational user would forgive Azskeptic for this transgression. --
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Gnetwerker. This is your modus operandi: posting complaints on AN/I or AN about the users
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before for 3RR offences, and it seems that his intent is only to push POVs on articles. --
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But why did you pick on that IP address to highlight, and not any of the others? And you
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provided he gives an undertaking not to delink dates while this discussion is ongoing. --
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bunnies to care. If the former, we educate. If the latter, the person is a liability.
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Well, it kind of looks like a violation of USERNAME with the name... or is it just me --
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Diff of the latest insertion of an icon ad in the template for MusicBrainz external links
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that were in opposition to those of HotR and this was the original cause of conflict. --
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As a matter of interest, Gnetwerker, what made you notice the tagging of 207.118.11.38?
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After my moves, many former redlinks are now blue, and take you to the correct article.
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may be harmless, but the list of them on PEAR's User page are not. I would suggest an
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of attempting to pass someone else's comments off as mine. Which is contemptible. --
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I agree, I think that is a copyright infringement - you can nominate it for deletion
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editors asking him to stop or reverting his edits - a clear action against consensus.
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Knowledge is not a schoolyard, guys. Now shake hands and resume writing articles :)
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I'll put a warning on my Talk: page, and insist that I not remove it; will that do?
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sub-page doesn't always mean that. Let's just drop this since I'm unblocked now.. —
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You only think about yourself, don't you. Fredil Yupigo 01:08, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
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JohnnyBGood, did you actually look at what happened? Looks to me like you didn't. --
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in the same timespan. Just look at the contribs. It's The Airport Vandal, alright.
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article, they might have taken the hint and fixed others as well. But no one with
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Not to mention to arrogance of self-nominating a sock puppet for RfA four times. -
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and his IP addresses 203.199.213.66 and 203.199.213.67 to stabilaze the articles.
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Being 'of interest' to you and being 'in your intest' are two diferent things. --
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Good article editors are welcome always, but this user should never be an admin.
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Fluffy the Cotton Fish. How do you reconcile that with the current claim that he
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We do nopt ban people for this. Actually, it isn't quite speediable anyway, use
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It is useful in that it serves as a link to the contributions of that "user". --
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It's easy to say, very hard to do in practice. You want me to file 40 new TFDs
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I was just deleting the newly created userboxes, which go against the spirit of
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No personal information has been disclosed, and please stop vandalising pages.
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There was nothing on the Talk page to say that an Admin had closed the debate.
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For those of us "watching at home", can you clarify who apologized for what? -
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on their watchlists will even know that you had made any change related to it.
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Who me? What's a POV warrior? (I'm new here, I just finished my 100th edit) --
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strongly suggests that Karmafist is connected with (is?) The Airport Vandal.
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Besides, after all those putting back the spamicon, isn't there ground for a
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Knowledge Review website, so none of this is the slightest bit surprising. --
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later. I sent an email to the Arbcom list about this before you posted here.
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Untrue, and misleading. But I didn't expect anything else from the ultimate
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Why a new account just for this single (and long-winded, offtopic) comment?
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Well, Knowledge is not a link directory. He should submit them to dmoz.org.
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I was going to say. RFC in this case would just become a venue to bash him.
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RfAr statements about Homeontherange/Homey and alleged misuse of admin tools
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Nobodys been messing with text colours.. so what are you talking about? :\
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Both accounts are blocked indefinitely, so that's a moot point actually. -
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Jocularity about this sort of thing is not something we should appreciate.
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Don't see why anything should be done. Nothing to see here, move along.
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I think Bobblewik could be a good contributor, and the delinking of dates
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I am monitoring the situation carefully. I appreciate Ashibaka's backup.--
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kind of dispute, then just stay away from them and work on other areas.
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If anyone needs disambiguation on their userpages, it's Morwen and I ...
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maybe Dante if he feels so inclined. Jtkiefer 04:43, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
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possibly the new one. As such I consider the RFCU issue to be closed. -
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After my moves, entering the accented form into the "Go" box still works.
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This account has been used by Homeontherange but mostly by his housemate.
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his milestone structure in line while continuing his sentence structure.
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If Zeq recreates the copyvio article a 3rd time, he will be blocked for
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need. But I do think this is looking like an obvious enough sock, yes. —
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For what it's worth, he implied one or more of his sockpuppets voted in
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Don't do that, it's an anon IP. Unless it's a proxy, limit the block.
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I have indefinitely blocked Thygard for the same reason as Pegasus1138.
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things different, and sometimes are less nuanced in e-mails than online.
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Absolutely ridiculous to try to claim that's a coincidence, of course. —
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regarding this coincidence, which is nothing more than a coincidence. --
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you even admit you don't fully understand transliteration schemes above
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If the issue concerns a specific user, try discussing it with them on
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What is all this bickering? Are we forgetting the bigger issue here?
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you so aptly keep reminding me, not in a position to argue about it.
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Administrator help for the clear-up would be much appreciated, too.
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Perhaps you don't understand the situation. the problem is not with
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I see no indication that El_C explained the block on your talk page
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Or are you just interested in being a pest and disrupting things?
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article be restored despite the fact that the AFD page I opened at
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I support a ban for this user's edits, and a gibberish username.--
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In addition to the attacks at Talk:Memphis, the user has attacked
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Sure. If he stops doing what he's doing nobody will bother him. --
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Agree with finding his various sockpuppets, it would help over at
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Never mind... I've got it figured out. 17:07, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
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In which case, could someone with The Button shorten the block? -
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as much as anything. I shall retreat, bloddied but unbowed. ^_^
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will simply give him a further opportunity to spread ill will. --
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I think getting some background may be useful, from the folks at
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I strongly agree with the abouve statements by Kim van der Linde.
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Well, I couldn't think of any constructive edits I could make to
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Good, the "Nazist" userbox should have never existed. Tagged as
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They mean Knowledge Review, which you will have to Google for.
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I'd much rather we just RfCU again and block any other socks.
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Maybe my reading skills are less than yours, but I was reading
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Previous AN/I thread about Homeontherange/Homey and sockpuppets
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that wikipedia wants people to get about how to interact here?
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Despite several warnings, he is not complying to the policies.
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It looks like a dial-up ISP. Indef probably not a good idea.
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Just a status update, I have scrambled the passwords for both
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by adding commentary and his personal analysis into articles.
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are harassing, claiming they are wikistalking you or others.
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from sockpuppet, his evidence would seem to be superfluous.
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so I hope that's the end of this latest round of disruption.
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Felonious, please take note of Fred Bauder's comments above:
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I would add that he does not seem to look for a compromise.
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How does me asking for a review on AN/I disrupt Knowledge?
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You did not close the discussion before you moved the page!
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That and "blashemy" isn't a prohibited action on Knowledge.
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via anonymous IP, and spamming this message on that page.--
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I'm not bashful about listing my puppets, I'm dead serious
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And what is the relationship of the people defending him?-
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that being a clear WP policy) does more harm than good --
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homeontherange or (b) disruptive before it can be blocked.
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Needless to say, I have blocked Suffolklaw indefinitely.
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with substitution of the Romanian flag with Georgian flag
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Have taken on board above and posted accordingly at AfD.
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I have apologized for and rectified all policy violations
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another sockpuppet? A checkuser seems strongly in order.
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I think it's because Moe wanted a spotless block log. --
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Is he editing from his usual IP? That might explain it.
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I've deleted that and the associated pages as nonsense.
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Resent using the email user function which should work.
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Per Doc, I would suggest an RfArb over anything else. —
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Well, now it is. Next letter in the alphabet, I guess.--
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Good work. Any grounds to block Nazis is okay with me.
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Admins, please take impose immediate blocking upon the
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He later wrote the following message to the FtCF page:
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All Knowledge policies are applied according to context
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You can see his personal attacks in the talk pages of
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and his IP addresses 203.199.213.66 and 203.199.213.67
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The problem with redirects is that they are invisible.
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was met with a significant consensus to nix the page.
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I disagree. I think my account's block log makes it
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That's not proof, or at least it's not all the proof
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His signature is a copy of the signature of Romanian
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Concur. Attempt to educate, then escalating blocks.
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How do you reconcile that with what he's now saying?
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The user has expanded his/her attacks/incivility to
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would propose it for a username block automatically
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Delve deeper into the licensing statement. It says:
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is the kind of disruptive edit I was talking about.
12730:I've commented on your talk page; the bug has been 10045:I think a quick look will reveal that this edit by 8623: 8591: 8053: 7954:I think we can confirm it. The IP which vandalized 12768:I support an indefinite block for Nazi apologism. 12202:Glad to see that El_C is taking part in "watching 7488:under this username anymore I will be invoking my 4607:, for instance, were not the same person who used 4506:, for instance, were not the same person who used 4454:, for instance, were not the same person who used 4302:, for instance, were not the same person who used 3977:Thank you. I'll remove my comments accordingly. 12979:(apart from an IP sockpuppet of the proposer)? -- 12977:And why is he moving a page that has zero support 6682:One oppose vote by a new editor was odd to me in 6330:. Arbcom might be better than an outright ban. -- 5237:greater effort is on the admin's end. ~YaR GnitS 4549:No, you're picking the wrong quote. Homey said: " 4054:only discourage admins from intervening in users 3437:this behaviour was "disruptive" to the project. 2818:Knowledge:Requests for arbitration/Homeontherange 2714:Agree as per FloNight and SlimVirgin's concerns. 1933:I should point out that this is exactly why I am 13358: 12073:Oh silly me. I thought that that's what WR was. 11139:Actually catch is Khoikhoi's. The block is mine 10170:24 hour blocks for each. I'm looking to see if 8109:"Faggotstein" is not an acceptable username. -- 6037:and an admin to undo, unlike some of your moves. 5240:And he's now trying to remove the sock tag from 5076:Since I wasn't sure, I requested a checkuser at 2554:Category:Knowledge sockpuppets of Homeontherange 978: 12757:We don't ban people based on personal beliefa. 12549:He is not adhering to the Neutral Point of View 12356:Nevermind, I will seek such clarification now. 11840:that she's a philosopher. That's just insane. 11800:Do not resign. Do not even think about it, AY. 7928:The vandalism of your user page with text from 5887:search for the English alphabet version work. 2599:encylopedia, disregard this uniformed comment. 2107:hey he's a pov warrior anyone surprised?i am -- 1916:is that you're claiming this user is doing. -- 12544:He is attacking the editors with abusive words 12206:'s edits" which is also called "Wikistalking". 11860:not be using to describe a pseudo-science. -- 11506:Delete recent posts on User talk:Nathanrdotcom 9528:Don't think about us editors, think about the 7602:If jtkiefer follows through, that suits me. -- 7131:Well, you learn something new every day. ;) -- 5271:a few hours later. Just after the discussion 4965:I'm not aware of any of those templates (e.g. 4270:Knowledge:Articles for deletion/Zionist Regime 952:Do not report breaches of personal information 13072:There's now an explanation on the talk page. 12567:His editions and reverts are in the pages of 10485:User talk:Daniel575#Tagging_an_edit_Vandalism 8906:He then started changing the subject firstly 6169:It had no effect whatsoever on the fact that 4017:Fred has said he supports the current block, 2651:These are just some of his recent sockpuppets 2649:I'm also strongly opposed to any relaxation. 1643:she thinks that Knowledge is a zerosum game. 1545:Vandalism by Administrator(Removing Warnings) 346: 13212:Your complaint here strikes me as a case of 11824:LGagnon removing Rand philosopher references 10328:I must response to this claim, as I believe 8243:Firsfron and I have both left him warnings. 7878:, so that would be a good place to start. -- 6226:Support, way beyond anything acceptable. -- 5078:Knowledge:Requests for checkuser/Case/Leyasu 4309:Now, however, he seems to be saying that he 3629:You make no contribution to the encyclopedia 954:on this highly visible page – instead go to 153: 11438:Unexplained or phantom block, confused user 10582:Personal attacks at Talk:Memphis, Tennessee 10195:Verifiability issues in a Star Trek article 2800:SimonP, which Arb case are you discussing? 11148:Well kudos to you both in this case :) -- 8565:his way of saying this, in my opinion. -- 3794:What do you mean "from the outside"? From 2848:I would like to add, that even editors as 353: 339: 18:Knowledge:Administrators' noticeboard 13216:. Who is abusing reporting boards again? 9701:Could the discussion of this be moved to 7825:Unfortunate, but seemingly inevitable. -- 6188:is indexed correctly in its categories. 2530:RfAr brought against Homeontherange/Homey 13301:while warning about removing reports??? 11003: 10972: 10675: 10641: 10610: 8898:he then proceeded to wipe more warnings 8160:I support this block. This guy has been 7960:Phoenix Sky Harbor International Airport 5263:If someone would like to take a look at 5012:is already on display on 400+ articles). 1747: 993:Review of the RfA discussion-only period 13156:Oh okay, I stand corrected. Sadly... -- 11117:His style of discussion is very similar 10297:Eh?? Anyone know what's causing this?-- 9286:i never even counted them as suppoters 8612:if you have merged any content from it" 6531:There's a lot of ugly in that RFA, but 6432:Concur, for reasons enumerated above. 5226:Listen, this deeply offends me, and if 4765:This external links icon ad for Last.fm 3571:reading posts before responding to them 1599:FYI, the archived AN/I entry is now at 159: 14: 13359: 12278:Oh really? Well, show the email then. 11421:Moshe Constantine Hassan Al-Silverburg 11385:Moshe Constantine Hassan Al-Silverburg 10104: 9963: 9566: 9483: 9431: 9390: 9346: 9290: 9253: 9218: 9169: 9129: 9056: 8980: 8937: 8220:User continues to stalk and harrass me 7650:picked then you can ask him about it. 6445:for sockpuppet voting there as well. - 5908:A couple of other things to consider: 4712:I don't believe FtCF was a sockpuppet 4662:does not distinguish between the two. 4160:Moshe Constantine Hassan Al-Silverburg 4056:with whom they have an editing dispute 2891:Moshe Constantine Hassan Al-Silverburg 1752:This drops, and Azskeptic is forgiven. 914:these tips for dealing with incivility 871:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents 9658:but blocking has proved more popular 8758:, you know that's a state secret. -- 8182:That many links is blatant linkspam ( 6769:To be fair, while recent revelations 5503:is probably worth remembering, as is 2918:There is absolutely no evidence that 2351:Why did I ever say it was deliberate? 334: 231: 11167:Constant Forum spam on Pontiac Fiero 8476:I could go either way on this. Try 4927:I'm just saying, this is a case for 3718:Yes, I saw that she'd e-mailed you. 2548:RfAr brought by Homeontherange/Homey 372:discussion, request, and help venues 327:Revision as of 19:12, 16 August 2006 178:Revision as of 19:12, 16 August 2006 100:Revision as of 19:08, 16 August 2006 90: 56: 12701:It still violates two parts of the 11928:List of Bountyheads in Cowboy Bebop 11754:Nonsense sentence for Louis Jolliet 3960:CJC, I have done as you requested. 2240:My guess is that you couldn't find 238: 227: 192: 175: 168: 152: 109: 97: 23: 13258:I'm more concerned about the poor 8510: 8446: 8359: 8308: 6250:My apologies for top-posting, but 4445:That's hardly an answer. He said " 2220:, the third article I editted was 329: 45: 13378: 12724:Portal:Current events/August 2006 10557:Gotta love teamwork. GJ guys. :D 7708:puppet currently. Is that true? - 4866:all over again. Fool me once... 4823:Knowledge:WikiProject_MusicBrainz 10597:behavior modification specialist 10528:Say hi to another sockpuppet of 10376:Also see my talk page. Also see 8267:Next time report such things on 5044:(asked for it on the talk page)? 4784:Image:MusicBrainz Album Icon.png 4767:keeps popping up right and left. 4749: 2802: 2693: 2565: 360: 13130: 13104: 12089: 12062: 12034: 11983: 11600:Agree. This is just causing me 11198: 11111:is very similar to Bonaparte's 10997: 10966: 10669: 10635: 10604: 10560: 10108: 9967: 9570: 9487: 9435: 9394: 9350: 9294: 9257: 9222: 9173: 9133: 9060: 8984: 8941: 8281: 7930:Stapleton International Airport 6647: 6372: 5215:has no official affiliation to 1999:Please see my message to Yamla 856:Category:Knowledge noticeboards 13179: 12166: 12140: 11626: 11521: 11351: 11313: 11307:She responded on my talk page 11291: 11075: 10323:and blatant personal vandalism 10309:probably getting nostalgic.) 9897: 9825: 9745: 9655:Yes, Rebecca thought about it 8965: 8919: 8660: 8378: 8326: 8249: 7905: 7785: 6441:He should also be banned from 6239:that may relate to this case. 5588:clears up at least that much. 5040:(sneaked it 3 or 4 times) and 4070:after quitting the HotR handle 3227:there was nothing stopping him 2854:not indef banned by the arbcom 2412: 13: 1: 12737: 12591:Furthermore, he violates the 12533:He is continously engaged in 11954: 11668: 11588: 11552: 11445: 11040:requests for page protectcion 10591:, Reneec just suggested that 10451: 10410: 9993: 8728:Blocked by Freakofnurture. -- 8617: 8585: 8583:delete the source article. - 8515: 8451: 8364: 8313: 8047: 6493: 6279:What makes you suspect that? 6235:Some other strange goings-on 6184:You failed to fix it so that 5678: 5647: 5574: 5023:today again it was sneaked in 2809: 2700: 2572: 2276:because it's just a redirect. 476:Biographies of living persons 325: 288: 12912:admin. Cheers. /Bergerons -- 12792: 12740: 12584:He is continously violating 11150: 11128: 11113:Anti-Romanian discrimination 11109:Anti-Georgian discrimination 9341:}} compared to Eddys change 8879:A Man In Black being uncivil 8741:he didn't inherit Curpsbot? 8402:or simply too obsessed with 5673: 5642: 5569: 5517:to attempt to impliment the 4786:is supposedly GFDL, though. 3495:It was confirmed as well as 28:Browse history interactively 7: 13337:19:12, 16 August 2006 (UTC) 13320:19:05, 16 August 2006 (UTC) 13306:19:01, 16 August 2006 (UTC) 13294:18:59, 16 August 2006 (UTC) 13276:19:05, 16 August 2006 (UTC) 13267:18:57, 16 August 2006 (UTC) 13254:18:55, 16 August 2006 (UTC) 13245:18:53, 16 August 2006 (UTC) 13230:18:57, 16 August 2006 (UTC) 13221:18:52, 16 August 2006 (UTC) 13208:18:48, 16 August 2006 (UTC) 13199:18:46, 16 August 2006 (UTC) 13161:18:35, 16 August 2006 (UTC) 13152:18:33, 16 August 2006 (UTC) 13137:18:28, 16 August 2006 (UTC) 13120:18:25, 16 August 2006 (UTC) 13111:18:18, 16 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