3038:. That infobox provides a vast amount of statistical data, consistent with the reality that her career has been a very long one, and it would be utterly ridiculous to list every tournament she'd been in, even the Grand Slam ones alone would put undue weight on the article narrative. It appears that the classical music project has a problem with them, big time, and some of the literature topics don't like them. This issue has been to Arbcom once already and back for clarification a couple of times. Basically, the ArbCom ruling was, to paraphrase, "infoboxes are decided on a case by case basis and everyone should discuss the matter politely and in good faith." So good luck with all that...
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useful and helpful, but would totally bog down the article narrative, particularly when it's technical data. Most infoboxes are developed on a project by project basis, and within that project, while some infoboxes may have relatively little information, thus in a short article they are a bit unbalanced, they are there to provide consistency across all articles in the scope of that project. Similarly, a navbox at the bottom may also unbalance the article. However, BOTH have the option of being collapsed if the technical details threaten to overwhelm the article. For example,
1807:" I think you've just refuted your own argument there. The icons are well understood, but are also marked as abbreviations. Their use, occupying just one character of screen-space, in intended to meet likely objections that the full text is too prominent or obtrusive; but I'd be happy to switch to that if it were more popular (which I doubt would be the case). If yo can't see the point, I'd be happy to explain or answer any questions you have; but that's not a sound basis for describing them as "ridiculous".
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of them took over the business - but some would be quite pertinent - a pope's infobox should almost certainly make note of this fact about their life. In other words, if you have a specific instance where you think it should be but isn't, please bring it up, either here or at the appropriate wikiproject; but if you are trying to impose a universal standard, I would argue against it.
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committees looked at it, major votes on the bill, etc. It's easy to add that data, it's all strictly factual, and it adds value to the page to readers. I hope that any decisions made about infoboxes wouldn't negatively impact cases like this one. (I do agree that some infoboxes need better documentation...). Just my two cents as a fairly new user.
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location. Although, I can see there can be a problem generally if there's not much stuff in them. Projects such as
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infobox looks ridiculous). Neither should they contain any information which is not in the body of the article. I've seen too many biographical articles with the individual's dates, place of birth etc in the infobox but not in the article text. They are a quick reference supplement, not a replacement for article text. --
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unless it's a really, really poorly written article. Vanisaac's comments above are also relevant ā many sportspeople have played multiple sports or are better known for other things, but only have an infobox for a single sport. Overall, I just don't think it's much of an improvement in its current format.
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and avoid any kind of 3RR violation. Yeah, it's a damn dramafest, and I actually agree with you, but the last round of this exhausted me and wound up with two other damn good editors placed under restrictions and yet more admonished to be civil. Ask
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As I indicated, I'm likely over-thinking the intent here. For example I can not imagine a more gender neutral manner of describing a person than to accurately reflect their gender. My endeavors where gender neutrality seems appropriate involves things like a position; for example I would not describe
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In my view, the relevant guidelines here are WP:BB and WP:BRD. Infoboxes ARE a default for many wikipedia projects, especially in the sciences, and are routinely added without any objections at all. And yes, did ArbCom drop the ball? I think they did. But I'm also exhausted and discouraged by the
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could take an inordinate amount of time better spent elsewhere. I am genuinely concerned about this as I don't want to add boxes willy-nilly, and neither do I want to revert unexplained or sparsely explained deletions of boxes without being reasonably sure of my ground. I would like some indication,
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that listed three different years for construction. At least some users are only going to articles to see a basic bit of information like that. Placing "see text" under year constructed explicitly tells readers that "when was it built" is not a simple question to answer. This would have applications
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American federal legislation. In this case, a good infobox provides a quick bite of helpful information about the bill the article is about - who introduced it, when, what
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for an example of the infobox war from hell) you could add an infobox to one or two that you personally are working on and where you have an active interest (as opposed to a "drive-by" edit) and see what happens: If you are reverted, keep to a 1RR and immediately go to talk and discuss. Likewise,
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that any removal of an infobox should be taken to an article's Talk page first, with the infobox-adding editor, and major contributers being invited for discussion. Other projects have the facility whereby the removal or proposed removal of content under its wing is flagged up to project members to
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successfully. If it weren't a world heritage site, where this sort of thing is so common, they just made it part of the infobox architecture, you would need to take a look at all the parameters of any appropriate infoboxes and see which one works best for the subject, and then just manually add any
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My opinion on infoboxes. They can be useful, but should not be added if they (a) have virtually nothing in them (an infobox which only contains the info listed in the first line of the article text is utterly pointless) or (b) completely unbalance the article (a very short article with a very long
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provides no heading but the person's name. It has occupation and genre fields that are almost never empty in my experience. They are used flexibly. Beside flexible/inconsistent/undisciplined format: each sometimes lists unlike values (occupation=Author, screenwriter); occupation in one biography
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Hi all, I wonder if there are any efficient way of including a collapsible section within an infobox? By collapsible section, I mean a button next to a header text, and that button can hide or show all following label/data rows. I have seen some earlier attempts in the following list of infobox
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That is, however, a Catch-22: They shouldn't be sparse, but they shouldn't be long. And, more to the point, it is NOT the way that the real wiki-world works. First off, statistically, over half of all wikipedia articles have infoboxes in them. Many infoboxes contain summary material that is
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and will be made abundantly clear within the first few sentences in 99% of articles. And even if gender is considered essential for all infoboxes, the ā and ā are far from universally understood, and must be violating MOS:ICON in some respect ā what's wrong with "male fooer" and "female fooer"?
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label of "Scientist", but the facility to override that with another value, such as "physicist". (I have already suggested on that template's talk page that separate parameters for honorifics (pre- and suffixes) should be created, as with other biographical templates. I also plan to draft
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high school teacher, or corporate attorney who happened upon an important discovery in their backyard lab. What they did is far more fundamental, and most importantly, there really is no default occupation. So certainly make sure that if an editor puts
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have some infoboxes with gender-specifying parameters) WP:GNL does not prohibit us from doing so. We deal with BLP issues and vandalism in the usual way, not by hiding citable facts. And please avoid hyperbole like "polluting".
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We have many {infobox writer} completed with complex occupation, analogous to Gould's Field. Eg,
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The discussion regard a proposed change to infobox guidance is still ongoing. Editors are
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Not a fan of the proposed style ā something along the lines of the header used in
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now uniformly displays the word 'Pirate' in the box header linked to the article
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and elsewhere, - it would be nice to treat the topic with less emotionĀ ;) --
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Thank you for both of your suggestions, and they are what I wanted. ā
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widen discussion - is there a way of doing this hereĀ ?
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