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290: 258: 153: 202: 184: 1138:"In the Introduction to my ratings database, I wrote: I've been accumulating records since the mid-1970s, and have sporadically written about popular music since then. . . . The database evolved from simple lists just to keep track of stuff -- originally records that I had listened to, then it grew to include records that other people think are worth listening to. . . . The grades probably say more about me than about the music." 1127:). Not sure about grades divorced of prose, though--even Strong, Larkin, AllMusic, have bio/prose entries attached to their ratings. Thoughts? There has been some recent removing/adding back of TH list grades, so best to ask. Or maybe I'm missing where TH wrote about all these albums elsewhere. Part of the issue may be that "subject matter expert" is kind of thrown around too often, but I'd feel the same way if 1219: 762:
also seems to suggest that you could use Spotify/Apple Music metadata to verify such things, although a more academic source would be preferred. ("inline citations may be allowed to e-commerce pages such as that of a book on a bookseller's page or an album on its streaming-music page, in order to
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info-filled pages due to "Buy Album" links--even when those are the original issuing labels--but Apple and Spotify (and Amazon) run rampant. And many editors have noted that Apple is often incorrect about original song lengths and release dates for older albums.
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I personally would not use services like Spotify or Apple Music to glean information, as I've certainly seen errors listed on those platforms. Same with YouTube Music, which is possibly the worst of the lot in that regard.
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I love ratings and grades, have never understood the idea that they trivialize either art or criticism, and, most importantly, notice that RS books still write about them--recent books include Questlove's
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Anecdotally, it seems like I've read that editors don't find it reliable. I can't recall the discussion(s) though. Hopefully someone else can chime in with something more concrete.
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If you're listing the information under track listing or personnel sections, a citation may not be needed, unless you want to bring the article up to GA or FA status. See
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Although each has its own controversial incidents, at least KKBox only has one infringement incident, but it won’t affect its credibility too much, right?
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So what other websites can replace them and prove the records released by other recording artists and the songs included in the records?
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Talk:Amazing Things (Runrig album) § Proposed merge of The Greatest Flame and Wonderful (Runrig song) into Amazing Things (Runrig album)
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Doubts as well--they're purely commercial vendors. WP has never handled this well; I've seen longtime editors remove links to
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Talk:The Bonnie Banks o' Loch Lomond § Proposed merge of Loch Lomond (Runrig song) into The Bonnie Banks o' Loch Lomond
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Everything Violetstork outlined is consistent with how I've done it and observed other experienced editors do it.
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Citations are also necessary if you're listing information that isn't explicitly included in the liner notes.
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Talk:The Cutter and the Clan § Proposed merge of Protect and Survive (song) into The Cutter and the Clan
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Talk:The Stamping Ground § Proposed merge of Book of Golden Stories into The Stamping Ground
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Talk:The Big Wheel (album) § Proposed merge of Flower of the West into The Big Wheel (album)
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a reliable music publication that includes information about the record and its contents
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Talk:Searchlight (album) § Proposed merge of News from Heaven into Searchlight (album)
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Physical liner notes, either in your possession or a scan/picture of them (cite with
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OK, thanks. Will be interested to hear other viewpoints on That Grapejuice. net
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Talk:In Search of Angels § Proposed merge of Maymorning into In Search of Angels
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Talk:Mara (album) § Proposed merge of Things That Are (song) into Mara (album)
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It is not reliable, because it is written by its users, see the guideline at
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I have doubts, too, so I'd wait for a more experienced editor to weigh in.
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Talk:Proterra (album) § Proposed merge of Empty Glens into Proterra (album)
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Can this be used as a reliable source for music related matters? Thanks
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such things as titles and running times.") You might also check out
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are no longer available, what credible websites can replace them?
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that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject.
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There are several proposed merge discussions regarding
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singles that may be of interest to this WikiProject:
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There's been some recent discussion of the above at
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