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represented in an article ( in this instance including the view that the British won the war). Eventually the mediation cabal corrected this. If you look at the article discussion page, there is still a warning by "the editors" that the conclusion that the war was a draw (and the British didn't win) is the prevailing viewpoint of the article.
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I like this idea. Then the Civil War was a draw. Maybe the South lost because they didn't burn Washington. Perhaps the South won if you look at the current makeup of Congress. How about World War II? Did pre-war Germany include Czechoslovakia? How about the borders of Vietnam? By the way, it is
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I will also note that with the War of 1812 article, the opinion that the War of 1812 was won by the British was continously blocked from being included in the article, by mainly US editors. This was against Knowledge policy WP:Undue Weight - which says that all significant opinions should be fairly
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Just noticed this. I've been to Ireland, but I'm not the Irish columnist. I have a rather different interpretation of the outcome of the War of 1812 than Mr Myers the columnist, based on, I suspect, much more detailed knowledge of the conflict. But I'll pass over our differences in deference to his
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Mr Myers does have a point, there is a connection between what Wikipidia says in this regard, and the nationality of the editors. If you read the lengthy Mediation cabal, the most fanatical editors supporting the US win are often more likely US. In the Cabal, I was the main person pushing for a
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to Canada, but "Knowledge's US monitors" instantly correct "every attempt by Canadians to put it into the historical record." He provides no supporting evidence, but was likely referring to controversy at the War of 1812 article and an ensuing
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Canadian/British win to be recognised, and I'm not from the US (I'm Australian). There are some Americans that see it as a loss for the US as there are some US historians who see the war as a loss, however Mr Myers definitely has a point.
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Erm...The United States lost to Canada? At the time of the War of 1812 Canada was still a part of the British Empire. The U.S. failed in its objectives relating to Canada, but it lost the war with Britain, not Canada. –
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by John Schwartz about the conflict between different countries' free speech and privacy laws as they relate to content in Knowledge articles.
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Definitely not the same person. He is always getting to trouble in the Irish media, so I wouldn't take his comments too seriously. —
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opinion column on 25 February that tangentially accused Knowledge's contributors of idealizing America's fortunes at the time the
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that the name could be found on the newcomer's Knowledge page, and offered a prize to the discoverer.
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What is the matter with this Mr. Myers? Why pick on Knowledge, instead of historians? —
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agreed that the two side would return to their pre-war territorial lines.
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announced its new co-host (or "curator") via Knowledge on 26 February.
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Classroom edition for students published a January cover article,
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was penned. Myers contends that the US essentially lost the
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i think the war was actually a 'draw' in any case, the
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