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5737:(I did not know it is allowed to comment here. Apparently it is). As shown in checkuser discussions, "all accounts" do not connect to internet from same place or using same provider. Why are you spreading flat out lies again, Dojarca? And we've shown quite a lot of times how checuser clerks can check that we are different persons. Not to mention that Alexia, Digwuren and I have our own websites, registered to our real-life names (I do not know if other Estonian editors have websites or not). We can easily prove our identity by uploading a file with required content to our respective website. These baseless referrals to checkuser accounts must end, how long do we have to listen how bad-faith users attempt to show us as probable sockpuppets. FYI, Dojarca, if you would have bothered even to look at 5668:(note that in the last three cases Dojarca managed to incorporate personal attacks against Digwuren and others into XfD nominations), and, last but not least, here. It seems to me that the checkuser procedure should only be used to make sure whether certain accounts are sockpuppets or not, and not for the purpose of long-term harassment. As is evident from the diffs, references to the checkuser case are routinely used to harass the users that have never been announced sockpuppets in this case (Digwuren, Sander Säde) and even some users who have never been nominated for checkuser and don't reside in Estonia ( 5004:("Spectie" on IRC) stated firmly that it was "an idiotic article that needs to be deleted". After a long debate with Francis Tyers, who pointed out the misuse of the word "occupation" in the title, the reliance on political resolutions of the US senate as if they were academic sources, the absence of scholarly sourcing, and the unencyclopedic tone ("whoever has written the article hasn't even attempted to make it NPOV"), Digwuren concluded that Francis Tyers was "trolling" him rather than trying to be helpful, and wasn't worth talking to. Digwuren nominated the article for Good Article status, 2910:
it.Cleverly. They circumvent WP:NPA by not attacking the person directly but through for example their nationality(see above for a sample). They attack anyone daring to contradict them(evidence presented above) or try to dicipline someone they agree with(see ProhibitOnions and RJ GC block) and make the environment on Knowledge near intolerable. So I'm off for a wikibreak. No doubt I will find that the case is closed and again Irpen's, Ghirlas and their comrades activities allowed to continue unhindered proving that Knowledge is broken beyond repair and
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edit. His third was also a factual correction; There was no dedication, simply a re-opening. His fourth edit was, once again, a factual correction. Under the previous form, the article claimed the city performed a legal action, which was impossible under Russian Law at the time, as cities weren't legal entities. The fifth was replacing an irrelevant link with a relevant one. The fourth was the removal of a false and unsupported claim of police violence in Estonia. All are fully justifiable, and even though they constitute a violation of
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magnifying effect and is perfect for block shopping, and they make liberal use of that. As a result, I stopped editing Estonia-related articles altogether: now I know there are people discussing and insulting me behind my back, following my contributions and copying the appropriate diffs to IRC, peppering them with malicious or misleading comments. Since I am denied the opportunity to disprove these allegations of misconduct, Suva's and Digwuren's activities on IRC are more than enough to make me keep away from this case.
4421:: "FayssalF, thank you for demonstrating that block shopping on WP:ANI is so efficient these days... Given your prompt "reaction", you will see tons of forum shopping on this page from the same accounts. This is both a token of the admins' ineptitude to handle a rather complex editing dispute and a potent signal to the trolls what they are expected to do in order to have their opponent blocked from Knowledge for a considerable period of time. It was not Petri who started flamefests on this page." 4385:: "You have been ill advised to bring every petty dispute to this page hoping that your opponent will be blocked. The view that block shopping is efficient has some currency in the project (see Piotr's message above), but I assure you that no amount of ANI bickering will resolve your dispute with history and fellow wikipedians. You are mistaken in believing that regular abuse of this page (look how the heading is phrased) will result in character assassination of your opponents." 5052:, plus the usertalk pages of Digwuren and Dihydrogen Monoxide, makes it pretty obvious that such abuse has taken place here. While Dihydrogen Monoxide rather than Digwuren appears as the instigator of the mutual-aid reviewing scheme, Digwuren is only too eager to fall in with such ill-judged buddy reviewing, and in his case it's in favor of railroading through GA status for what consensus points to as a very poor article. (See for example the shocked remark by GA regular 2483:
current case perhaps warrants an exception to the rule. I was informed recently that Digwuren, Alexia, and Suva took to using #wikipedia for spreading Russophobic propaganda and block shopping. After checking the appropriate logs, I found a plethora of xenophobic or racist remarks ("you roll a vobla into pravda and drink vodka"), but that does not disturb me as much as their abuse of the magnifying effect of IRC to misrepresent and persecute their opponents.
4598:: "Now compare that to what happened at that AFD: 3 of the Korp! members seem to have suddenly changed their signature, Alexia Death the Grey being the third member concerned. Digwuren even changed in the middle of the discussion. Unless Digwuren has started work on Chinese Knowledge, I fail to see any other reason for that change than the fact that they want to avoid being associated with that RfAr, or with disruption elsewhere on Knowledge". 5741:, you would know that my involvement was inserting one source when it was asked for. Suva, Alexia and others who are accused by you have not done even a single edit to the article. Guess you didn't really care, as long as subjects that you hate can be nominated for deletion. Now would you kindly revisit your AfD nomination so it would at least cursively reflect truth and not your private fantasies? And please stop stalking Digwuren. -- 35: 6166:(note that I am not commenting in any way on the content of articles or template). In all three deletion submissions he fails to give any reason for deletion, other then that they are created by "a user with the long history of disruption". In all three he brings checkuser cases as a proof that they are created by "a number of closely associated accounts, based in Estonia", who "created a mob" (all are direct quotes), despite that 2747:. These events brought out many previously dormant people to see that the coverage of events is neutral. It was a moment of controversy and I decided to register, since being just an IP is not most reputable. Or nationality is the reason we became registered users at that moment. I personally had done a couple of minor edits before may as an IP but did not see the need to register. I believe it was something similar for others. 5196:
day and what the odds are that on one particular day, three of them join; then imagine how many days there are, the conclusion is self-evident. One must then wonder, if both Suva and Alexia exist solely to second Digwuren's opinions, why Suva joined before Digwuren. This is not a definite refutation, but if they were recruited by Digwuren, how did he have the foresight to get one of his friends to join first?
1312:). It seems the articles mention the controversy, and state that a complaint was made to a "senior administrator" (meaning me, they seem to have got my role slightly confused) to fix the article. Since then, I have taken an interest in the article, attempting to act as a neutral party with no inherent point of view on the article, to ensure it does not violate BLP and remains NPOV and properly sourced. 6175:
template there is no involvement by any other Estonian editors except Digwuren. In case of "Denial of Soviet occupation" AfD, article was created by Digwuren as a total rewrite, even as noted by closing administrator - and yet Dojarca portrayed it as recreation of deleted material. He has been repeatedly asked stop personal and etchnic attacks, by several different users (
1076:, which was presented as evidence of incivility. This I believe, is an example of one's cultural background making a difference in interpretation. This statement is apparently derived from a famous quote by the late US Senator Pat Moynihan: "You are entitled to your own opinion. You are not entitled to your own facts", thus it wouldn't be generally considered incivil. 5963:"I'm not sure that our coverage of WWII atrocities in Estonia should be based on "research" (or rather lack thereof) commissioned by a government that is at pains to cover up the entire story", "On the other hand, Estonia maintained a bunch of concentration camps where virtually the entire Jewish population of the country was exterminated." 5982:. "Digwuren, Suva, and the related Estonian accounts misrepresented their clash with the wider community as an "Estonian-Russian ethnic conflict"". None of Estonian editors has ever represented this as an ethnic conflict, quite the opposite - all of us have been very strongly in a position that this is a clash of ideologies. 4652:
channel on two occasions, under different names, to check whether they really engage in block shopping and taunting Bishonen as a "b-witch" (as I had been told they do). I found the logs of the first episode when I browsed the web for "ghirlandajo" and "digwuren"; it appears that they have been posted by someone
1019:. In the subsequent discussion on the talk page, Otto characterised the opinion of the European Parliament that Soviet rule was "occupation" as, rather incivilly, "Estonian nationalistic" POV without knowing the personal politics of the Estonian editors, so justifying the deletion of the referenced material. 5059:.) By "buddy reviewing", I don't mean that the editors were friends—I don't believe they'd had any previous contact—but that they were drawn together by seeing an opportunity for exchanging favors. After the fact, they joined aggressively in defending against criticism and attempts to reverse the status of 4002:
The user, who replied to each rude outburst with addition and discussion of neutral sources for his edits and, as he expressedly states on his talk page, refused to activate e-mail lest he be accused of cabalism, eventually fell a collateral victim of an ANI thread mentioned below and was blocked for
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The case of RJ CG is highly instructive in illustrating how effectively and ruthlessly the Tartu trio discredits their good-faith opponents and turns them into revert warriors. Unlike his opponents, at first RJ CG did what a wikipedian involved in an edit conflict was supposed to do: provided sources
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editor: "I have to point out that not only complaints from number of different users are almost identical, but accounts listed in those complaints are almost identical too. I guess admins have a choice between believing many unconnected users who complain about identical destructive behaviour of same
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diff that Irpen presented as grossly unjust Digwurren explains nicely his reasoning justifying the claim. Even to me the nomination seemed fishy because the search presented as evidence of neologism had a an unbalanced quote in it rigging the result and because there was reason to assume that Ghirla
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Looking through the logs, I see Alexia, Suva, and Digwuren regularly pasting to #wikipedia links to my edits pertaining to the subject of this case (there are not so many of them) and asking a familiar admin: "can you add a remark to his talkpage that it is a bad idea?", etc. They know that IRC has a
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Be aware that Arbitrators may at times rework this page to try to make it more coherent. If you are a participant in the case or a third party, please don't try to re-factor the page, let the Arbitrators do it. If you object to evidence which is inserted by other participants or third parties please
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Francis Tyers is quoted above with permission. I have asked Dihydrogen Monoxide for permission to quote a few words by him also, but haven't had a reply yet. I may return and make the above narrative more concrete if he says yes. Since Digwuren seems capable of trolling me indefinitely on #wikipedia
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as a stub, and immediately listed it as within the scope of Wikiproject:Soviet Union, Wikiproject:Estonia, Wikiproject:Latvia, and Wikiproject:Lithuania. Three hours later, after working to expand the article greatly, he initiated a #wikipedia discussion of it, asking for help to make sure it was in
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For the last two month I have been the largest foreign contributor (I am Finnish) to Estonia related articles. During this time I have created 11 new Estonia related articles (one in DYK) and significantly contributed to one In-the-News article. For my contributions I have been under constant attack
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Meatpuppetry is a serious claim, and I see a lack of evidence to support it. Initially, Irpen presents the fact that three Estonian editors appeared on Knowledge nearly simultaneously; this is hardly an unlikely event. One must imagine how many Wikipedian editors from any given country join every
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One of the primary motivations for people contributing to Knowledge is because they want to do something good and be rewarded for it with recognition from their peers. Hence, nonconstructive criticism, and especially personal attacks and flaming can drive editors away. Intentionally or not, certain
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Consider the originator of this RfA. This is a clear pattern with Irpen, Ghirlandajo, Grafikm_fr, to lesser degrees Petri Krohn in a campaign to encourage baiting of Baltic and Eastern European editors, then pillory them and tie them up in these endless actions when said editors respond. Digwuren's
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In addition to my concerns about the trio's abuse of IRC above, I may note that the channel was definitely exploited by them for recruiting supporters who, after a brief conversation with them, were known to step into the Estonia-related conflicts on their side. As for incivility, I logged into the
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The editor commented: "Would it have been bannable offence, neither of you guys (Korps! Estonia) with your repeated POV-pushing and false accusations of anyone who have misfortune not to share your POV would survive on wiki past mid-May". Also: "I tried to be nice and quiet with you, just patiently
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or discussing the matter on Knowledge. An ill-considered block was the result. This practice of block shopping is nasty, considering that I am technically unable to monitor IRC all day long. When I log in occasionally, I see people discussing my edits and referring to me as a "little paranoid loon"
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One fact that Irpen fails to realize is that people from similar regions often share similar beliefs. Especially in the case of Estonia's beliefs regarding Russia and its actions towards Estonia. Just because three people from that region believe similar things does not mean they have to know or
4066:: "As an example we might look at the contributions to User:Digwuren/Petri Krohn; if that page does not result in an actual user conduct RfC in short order, I suggest that it be deleted as an attack page, because right now it seems like a forum for a group of editors to complain about Petri Krohn." 6344:
he accuses me of attacking mediator Jacroe after the case was closed, however, decision of the mediator was to close the case as unsolved. As far as I know, there is no rule to continue "the descussion" in closed mediation cases, unlike in AfD's. And since he accuses me of personal attacks on the
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Ghirlandajo's favorite tactic is to make provocative edits - slurs, borderline personal attacks and so forth - presumably in hope that his opponents will react in a way that allows Ghirla to go block shopping in AN/I. He does nor believe that any Knowledge rules apply to him - and I am sad to say
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As for Digwuren's six edits, the first of which was merely a re-addition of a section removed by another person believing that Digwuren performed original research. This re-addition was justified with the accompaniment of sources. His second edit was a factual correction to a different person's
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To be honest, this would worry me, except for the fact that you present no evidence to confirm your claim. It's so for an unverifiable and because of that, a rather salacious claim. I can't say it's untrue, however with the lack of evidence, and having edited with some of the mentioned editors, I
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Your horrific slurrish attack on my character where your expressed "surprise" hints that I hold the xenophobic views on my own does not even warrant a response, especially since making such attacks have become your trademark (I count 5 of the top of my head.) Those attacks are especially unworthy
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One of the most annoying tricks practiced by Digwuren and Suva is block shopping on ANI, without bothering to notify their opponent about the discussion. This leads to longish sterile threads, of which there have been a number. Let me highlight the following ANI threads started by the Tartu-based
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Irpen-Ghirla tagteam is a veteran of many arbcoms with much evidence persented against them and yet, nothing has been done... Perhaps their constant disruptions allone are not enough to warrant action, but his past of antagonizing users and generating disruption in as a pattern does. So before my
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has within recent history displayed a consistent pattern of disruption regarding articles on topics of Soviet history, apparently out of either nationalist or patriotic feelings towards that now-defunct regime. Often, he does not even attempt to mask his goals, instead opting for making baseless
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and keep responses as short as possible; a shorter, concise presentation is more likely to be effective. Please focus on the issues raised in the complaint and on diffs which illustrate behavior which relates to the issues. If you disagree with some evidence you see here, please cite the evidence
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is irrelevant. He tried to associate totally uninvolved editors with creation of the articles and template - such as in case of Czechoslovakia, my involvement was inserting one inline source - already present on the page - when it was asked for, Suva and Alexia have no edits at all. In case of
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Now, Good Articles are supposed to be reviewed by "someone other than their editors". It goes without saying that they ought not to be reviewed according to a "you scratch my back and I'll scratch yours" system, either. It's a corruption of the GA system if editors A and B agree to review each
4931:) shows how links to ArbCom workshop proposals by Ghirla and Irpen that did not made it to the official proposed decision page are used in discussions in an attempt to add an illusion of ArbCom legitimacy to their claims ("look, it has been raised during an ArbCom case so it has to be true").-- 4697:
along with a denigrating edit comment not to repeat the "mantra" again--a "mantra" which is 100% factually and historically correct, not to mention the Waffen SS units were formed long after the Nazi Holocaust had already claimed its victims and had nothing to do with any allegiance to Nazism.
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As to name changes... Well, I altered mine first and did it because i wanted to show my appreciation for True Neutral Heroes like Gandalf the Grey... I like LOTR(The books not the movie). So? Suvas and Digwurens signature changes I think were sort of humor, but thats their choice. Its not like
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I know that technically ArbCom cannot issue rulings based on IRC evidence, but it is no secret that some arbitrators are also operators of the IRC channels and, in this capacity, it is well within their means to put an end to the misuse of the channel for one's personal ends. The nature of the
5713:. It was corrected after an advice from Irpen. I also want to note that all the accounts connect to Internet from the same place, through the same provider. I makes technically impossible to determine whether they are sockpuppets of one person or a number of different interconnected persons.-- 2909:
As this list shows, these editors are constantly involved in Arbcom or RFC/U cases, they have the experience on their side and they use it to bite newbies because they know, nothing will touch them. Just because they contribute so much. The know that they can get away with murder and they use
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by Digwuren and his buddies (Suva and Martintg just to name those two) to bully out people who dared voting "delete" out of the discussion. Now, I know that xFD results are discussion based and not count-based, but still, this kind of attitude is very representative of Digwuren's approach to
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editors involved in this ArbCom have mastered the art of harassment and driving their opponents away from this project. Such a level of disruption cannot be tolerated: no matter how active one editor is, if he drives others away, eventually the loss of their potential contributors (
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Place argument and diffs which support your assertion; for example, your first assertion might be "So-and-so engages in edit warring", which should be the title of this section. Here you would show specific edits to specific articles which show So-and-so engaging in edit warring.
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Place argument and diffs which support your assertion; for example, your first assertion might be "So-and-so engages in edit warring", which should be the title of this section. Here you would show specific edits to specific articles which show So-and-so engaging in edit warring.
3897:", hails from Sweden and has not been known to edit USSR-related topics at all. Other major participants on the supposedly "Russian" side also have very little Russian about them; what they do share is the anti-Fascist sentiment. Let's take a look at their take on the situation: 1571: 1406:, and because he violated 3RR. So far, RJ_CG has not contested the block, and has acted in a civil manner towards me, and this I respect. I do not believe he is simply here to cause trouble, otherwise he would certainly have contested the block (Note that I'm not saying that in 4035:
used the precedent of the first (and very questionable) block to issue another 48h block for "edit warring", while absolving a bunch of RJ CG's opponents from any reproach whatsoever. He flatly refused to explain his rationale for singling out this particular editor, and
5015:). Dihydrogen Monoxide was asking for articles to review for Good Article status, a kind of work he had done before. I don't know why he asked on IRC rather than pick one from the GA queue. More urgently, I also don't understand how Dihydrogen Monoxide could say, a mere 4688:
This is totally not about Irpen calling attention of untoward behavior by Digwuren to Knowledge authorities, it is about waging an ongoing campainn of POV pushing and editor discrediting. In this case, to get Digwuren censured leaving RJ_CG to push pro-Russian POV, from
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comment, cited by Irpen as first offense, is fully supported by an examination of pertinent edits. Are all Baltic and Eastern European editors supposed to just roll over and stand for continued abuse? The double standard is abysmal, if you are Petri, you can call people
5725:. Dojarca, you are not a checkuser clerk, so you don't know how the accounts connect to the internet. Neither do I. It is, however, very telling that you fail to acknowledge that there is a possibility that they (or even we?) are neither sockpuppets nor interconnected. 4892:- on at least weekly basis - I can well understand why various editors are pleading for ArbCom to put an end to such harassment campaigns. Let me join the chorus: how many editors need to leave this project before some kind of civility parole or block demonstrates that 3475:(concerning Petri Krohn): "I do have to admit, that I have, do and will "stalk" some editors whose edits are on the suspicious side to monitor the factual correctness and NPOV... I think many if not most wikipedians use other users contribution logs from time to time." 1300:. The article has seen edit warring between Estonian editors (such as Digwuren, for example) and Russian editors. The edit warring has been based primarily around the birthday party controversy. There have also been news reports in Estonian newspapers about the article 5211:
The fact that none of the accounts made any sort of article for their first month is completely irrelevant. Making a new article does not absolve one of meatpuppetry, nor does not making an article imply meatpuppetry. Their first article, which has been preserved on
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nicely illustrate how Irpen is editing "courteously and cooperatively". I have created over 140 DYKs for this project, but Irpen is making me rethink if I should continue to contribute to a page where I can be slandered in such a fashion. PS. Another interesting diff
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As to not producing much in the first month... Is being a newbie and taking it slow a fault? What happened to not biting newbies? And I still don't produce much, I just don't have time with all these accusations flying around. Should I be kicked off the project for
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and just ignoring your libelous and overblown accusations. It did not work". He also asked the blocking admin to "be so kind as to point out any sequence of events when I initiated edit wars", but was ignored. These developments may be traced on his talk page.
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is just a pipe dream. Yes, I am bitter about all this, because as it seems, you can not get any relief even if you do everything right and the only way to succeed is to be a productive asshole never admitting to a fault, and I just haven't got that in me. So
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and blocking revert by creating a dab page. This resulted in a move war where multiple people were reacting resulting in a redirect mess and an admin assistance request on #wikipedia and a report on AN/I, witch he subesquently replaced with his own complaint
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Place argument and diffs which support the second assertion; for example, your second assertion might be "So-and-so makes personal attacks", which should be the title of this section. Here you would show specific edits where So-and-so made personal attacks.
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As long as your POVed versions of history are on the backburner, I try to stay away, because I try to not edit articles you create. But I can't (and won't) tolerate your pushing them to the mainpage through FAC, DYK or trying to give them prominence through
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for using the word "schmutz" admonishing me (in an article talk section created just for that purpose trumpeting "Using offensive language at the ArbCom's probational article") that I would be "banned" if I kept up my offensive behavior. Meanwhile, Irpen
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believe your claims are false. My basis for this is as strong as the evidence being presented here. I would suggest this request for arbitration be suppressed until any evidence to confirm (or to the contrary, for that matter) is able to be presented. --
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Balcer in the above link you brought up my "surprise" was about your action seemingly amounting to an act of academic dishonesty. Unpleasant and unflattering, this is a whole different ballpark than subtle accusation of xenophobia that we are discussing
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as a Good Article a mere couple of hours later. (Let me apologize preemptively if I've gotten confused by the three-layer timestamp system I'm working with here. I'm fairly sure I've got the time relations right, though. I've stared at them very hard.)
4671: 4467:: "I am suprised with the block duration of a week. The user may have wanted to rewrite the deleted article into something more civil and neutral, and we should not assume bad faith that he was attempting to be disruptive by recreating afd article." 5227:
Interpreting two people who share a common language talking in it as their doing so to "prevent other users from understanding what is being said" is the exact opposite of assuming good faith, and borders on looking for anything to accuse him of.
4044:. The Estonian editors dismissed the thread as an "odious slur", and, within a week, their opponent was blocked again, this time for a week, based on IRC communications. The blocking admin did not even bother to inform the blockee about the block. 1238: 5464: 4075:, with the locus of the dispute alleged to be "long-term pattern of attempts to represent private fantasies as historical fact coupled with hostile attitude towards any criticism, regularly leading to ethnic insults against Baltic editors". 6341: 1651: 97:
cite the evidence and voice your objections within your own section of the page. It is especially important to not remove evidence presented by others. If something is put in the wrong place, please leave it for the Arbitrators to move.
631:, the nominator makes a number of baseless accusations, including offensively claiming I and the Estonian editors hold extreme nationalist views and claiming we were collectively responsible for creating the article under discussion. 2850:
the first was deleted by Neil, as speedy for being a WP:POINT, went through a deletion review, and was undeleted and proven not to be pointy at all, the later is stuck as a controversial redirect that both I and Irpen have protested
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Alexia's account is relatively benign compared to the other two, but the fact of their simultaneous appearance is important to keep in mind when analyzing this case. While clearly distinct personalities, the accounts do fall under
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As to me misspelling Ghirla, Its a name that I cannot pronounce, and thus cannot remember properly and a speller is not much help with names. Sorry. I misspell Digwurren too sometimes and typos are something of a personal quirk of
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Digwuren's presence on WP has been extremely disruptive to a whole sector of Knowledge. Indeed, as the ArbCom is probably aware of, Digwuren already has a lengthy record of blocks made by several admins for various disruptions
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As such, it is extremely important that you use the prescribed format. Submitted evidence should include a link to the actual page diff, or to a short page section; links to the page itself are not sufficient. Never link to a
4141:"It relates a version of events, ascribed to another user, which is then mocked for being wildly inaccurate. It's not a good faith compilation of any sort of evidence, and is quite plainly a personal attack on Petri Krohn" ( 1674:, and attaching tags to that effect to articles not in such violation. Having made such vacuous claims, he tends to avoid expressing any specific concerns, or citing any actual sources to support his (implicit) assertions. 1646: 4766:
attempting to influence them while claiming not to. Irpen's protestations of "good faith" are nothing more than that. This is all so tiresome, utterly counterproductive, and a total perversion of the mission and goals of
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It has all been said before, will be said again. There was a time I had respect for Irpen as an editor. Unfortunately his campaign against Baltic and Eastern European editors appears to be his major activity now. He even
3163:{{PAGENAME}} may be written from ] and as such may not be compatible with one or several historic propaganda campaigns. If you feel you are biased by any such propaganda campaign, please refrain from editing this article. 119: 5216:
was in fact deleted for POV issues, but this fact isn't relevant to the accusation of meatpuppetry. Upon reading the article, any person who assumes good faith would realize that Digwuren's intentions were benevolent.
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I vehemently disagree with the assessment of the conflict between a group of Estonian editors and everyone else as an "Estonian-Russian ethnic conflict". This is what the trio wants everyone to believe, and that's what
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whew I sate that Petris dellusion of Korp!Estonia is anoying. Petri's unfounded belief into existence of Korp!Estonia is a persistent, annoying delusion(i dont know a better word), and I hope this ArbCom cures him from
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As to our first page getting deleted., Please read the whole AFD, there were keep voters with strong arguments, but the title was not the best and well, theres no shame in trying and failing, even more so if it is your
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Basically, what he's trying to do is to bully other editors to make them stay out of "his" articles so he can plague them with POV pushing. These edits are only a sample (albeit a representative one) of his warrying.
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Ironically turning a blind eye to Petri's own documented cases of incivility, Otto asserts the behaviour described in Krohn's RFC are unfounded and therefore acceptable, despite the extensive evidence to the contrary
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other's articles, and it's blatant abuse if they pass low-quality articles rapidly after such agreement. A look at the #wikimedia log, or even, disregarding the log, merely a look at the talkpages of the articles
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to avoid incivility and personal attacks. Coincidentally, he is the only party who has shown no remorse or regret of his actions whatsoever and is currently trying to turn this serious ArbCom case into travesty.
4846:, chief contributor to WikiProject:Geography of Poland, a spotless user who has never been blocked or convicted of any misbehavior on Wiki, requested deletion of his userpage and made his last edit to Knowledge: 4196:: "This case seems to be yet another phase in Petri Krohn's ongoing vendetta against a group of editors for no other reason than they happen to be ethnic Estonian". // Participants: Martintg, Digwuren, Colchicum 2755:
As to using Estonian in talk, I personally have avoided it, but if something was to be hidden, they would take it to email, as Petri's babel box claims understanding of Estonian. Nothing displayed publicly is a
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exactly as per above. (Arbitrators need to understand the grave vileness of these words. In ex-Soviet context being called a KGB-man is much more offensive than being called the undecover CIA or FBI agent.)
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being disappointed with the decision of a mediator, inserted comments to an already closed mediation case, attempting to continue the descussion. These comments included personal attacks on the mediator
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Irpen first arrived on the article only a day after its creation, and his first deed was to edit war over definition in the article — incidentally, with obvious intent to violate MOS guidelines on lead:
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Digwuren responded in kind and called Otto's view "quaint". Otto had taken offence at this "incivility", without even realising his initial comment of "Estonian nationalistic view" was equally uncivil.
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Particularly nasty, (and which I am not only offended on behalf of the Estonian editors here, but also the victims of the Holocaust), is his portrayal of Estonian editors as Holocaust denying neo-nazis:
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For instance, when I moved a page several times, Digwuren popped up on IRC asking for an admin to look into the matter and screaming: "has Ghirlandajo broken 3RR?", without bothering to apply to
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in an attempt to purposely inflame the debate, the aim being to bait a response which he then follows up with a report to ANI, in an attempt to shop for admin intervention against his opponents:
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he subsequently supports an action not just against Digwuren's alleged incivility, but unjustifiably against a whole group of Estonian editors who were never party to Otto's little edit war on
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Frankly, this is amazing. After this sequence of administrative actions RJ CG effectively retired from active editing, leaving Digwuren and Co without their last opponent in content disputes.
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Although I am not a directly involved party, I have been privileged to have access to all the relevant information including IRC chat logs to present my opinion as a neutral third party.
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you are playing the extremely intellectually dishonest trick... Please stop this tricks and stay on topic. Your behavior in these two examples has been plainly unfair, if not dishonest.
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and Knowledge without actual contact or notice from me, I choose not to make any permission request of him. In any case, he has merely prevaricated about a similar request from Irpen.
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was what prompted it. If hinting that some nations(the nation of some editors involved in the debate) exist just because of "sheer luck" isn't ethnic slurs then I don't know what is.
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I am also independent and arrived while surfing at a heavily biased page about an Estonian politician. An attempt to unbias it failed on revert warring and insults from Digwuren.
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with the following advice: "Rather than bring this case here, Alexia, did you try asking nicely for Petri to strike his inappropriate comment? That's the normal first step".
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for his edits and attempted to discuss them on talk pages. By way of response, he was summarily reverted as a "vandal" and unvariably treated to a range of hollow threats (
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despite that it was removed by several different editors, as Dojarca failed to give any valid reasons for the tag (for a long time, he gave no reasons whatsoever). Diffs:
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This attitude is not only incredibly inflammatory, it is also constitutes an incitement to ethnic hatred against Estonians in an environment that is already heated by the
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with the concept of creating nonsensical articles. This is all the more problematic because the defamation is formed in a way that makes it particularly hard to find:
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These diffs along with others' posted above is only a part of the pattern. Unless arbitrators rush to the proposed decision immediately, I will be adding more ASAP. --
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and failing to apologize when it became evident that nobody supports their interpretation of the event). Faced with such harassment on sometimes daily basis, and for
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When I enquired if Balcer is coming back, he replied that it is unlikely, as he simply sees no point in contributing to the project in exchange for such harassment.
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Update2: I believe such comments classify as harassment - on the very pages of this ArbCom, with the intent to drive away editors who disagree with certain party:
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I imagine it was fun to prepare this attack in the cool of the Tartu classrooms, so as to launch it on June 22, the day when Nazi Germany invaded the Soviet Union
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In regards to the deletion requests by Digwuren, one must note that two of the articles legitimately were deleted and he was fully justified in nominating them.
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is it. Accusing ones government of racism and telling one that this person is trolling the board where people are supposed to get help is not an acidous insult?
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Several admins were trying to explain Digwuren that his attitude was not fitting with WP policies, but to no avail (see comments by El_C, Bishonen and Cowman).
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mediator, I will bring here my only comment there: "Guys, please stop attacking Jacroe. It is not his fault that he landed in the middle of a difficult case."
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has drastically ceased his involvement in this project since late last year. And Irpen and Ghirla keep attacking other editors; just today Irpen told me that
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I haven't followed Digwuren's editing and article creation extensively, or really at all, so far, but stumbled on an example of it yesterday when reviewing
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Granetd, typoes happen. As long as it can be reasonably believed they're just typoes, with no intended malice, they can be forgiven under the principle of
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As far as the Bronze Soldier is concerned, any attempt of mine to keep the words "fight against fascism" in the text was summarily reverted within minutes.
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attempted to modify Irpen's TFD statement, which is against the very basic rules of Knowledge, and then edit warried to remove part of Irpen's nomination:
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is another reversion of the same hateful bigotry. I regret that I wasn't paying enough attention, leading to this particular revert remaining incomplete.
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appears to dislike this finding, but instead of commenting it directly, he's attempted to disrupt the article — which, I would say, constitutes a clear
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was disqualified despite the serious issues contained in it, has provided a model of behaviour that may have been emulated by less experienced editors.
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Anyone, whether directly involved or not, may add evidence to this page. Please make a header for your evidence and sign your comments with your name.
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Following this exchange - in which he was accused of "sneaky attacks", "xenophobia", "academic and intellectual dishonesty" - on 7 September Balcer,
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any sources from the Baltics should be excluded also because there are many state-sponsored researches containing bias and falsifications of history
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by the ringleader and his puppets. Most of my contributions to Estonia related articles have been summarily reverted, usually in under ten minutes."
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An IP editor inserting irrelevant content and does not bother to talk will be reverted. This reverting was followed pointy removal of other material
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from the editor who allowed the filthy Zydokomuna theories to stay for about a year in the article on his watchlist until I found and removed them.
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Generally, this kind of abuse is so trivial that, in my estimation, about 80% of Digwuren's edits in his first month or two of editing Knowledge
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All in all, I believe the accusation of meat puppetry to be grossly baseless and nearly constitutes a personal attack, and is at least uncivil.
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accordance with Knowledge policies and would not get deleted (as its predecessor had been). One user responded that it was "rather biased", and
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signature lets you hide who you are... Signatures on WP seem to be expressions of ones individuality. Harrasing others for them is a bit odd.
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Additionally Irpen accuses people on Knowledge for things that were said on #wikipedia in behalf of Ghirla and replacing Ghirla's statement
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and effectively sheild him by deleting the RFC, some editors now think it's okay to continue to tendatiously edit Estonia related articles:
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case, thus exposing Otto's personal bias against Estonians generally whom he apparently profiles as "Estonian nationalistic POV pushers".
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Knowledge:Requests_for_arbitration/Digwuren/Evidence#Inserting_additional_comments_with_personal_attacks_into_already_closed_discussions
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Otto, burning with anger that Digwuren does not agree with his view of history, enters into an anti-Digwuren alliance with Petri Krohn
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Commenting that somebody has a mind block is not uncivil. It is perhaps, now that I look at it, a bit attacky, but I was green then...
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RJ_CG is blocked for 119 hours, and Digwuren taunts the user on their user talk page, by using a mocking version of the DYK template:
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of their editing practices, followed by incessant revert-warring to keep the compromised version of the page, lamenting the years of
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and the following Soviet aggression, and commonly lets this get in the way of the need to discuss topics in a calm and civil manner.
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I don't understand why some of the biggest trolls here are still throwing fæces around and not spending their time on being blocked?
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was closed "nonconsensus" despite the strong majority voted "delete". the TfD resulted in template's being moderated by other users.
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baselessly accused other editors of racism and ethnical hatred against Estonians in cotext disputes to justify his point of view:
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Digwuren: "You should refrain from disruptive editing in the future, lest the Mighty Hammer of Wikipedian Justice fall upon you"
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attempted to circulate around; since it's without merit, it's nowadays only found in old sources or Russian media publications.
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Digwuren's attitude was extremely disruptive on a number of pages, where he engaged in heavy edit warrying. Examples include:
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several of which with "vandalism" edit summary. Brought about a two-week block, later lifted based on off-wiki communication.
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It is worth noting that prior to my involvement in this particular part of the dispute, every single one of RJ_CG's edits to
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while he was not around. May it be pointed out that public logging is not allowed on the channels so how come this happens?
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pushing his political POV in inappropriate places. Latest examplew was when that user continues trolling on AfD page," etc.
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In Baltic countries and Poland there are functioning state-sponsored institutions, opened especially to create new history
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1 June, Digwuren: "Cmapm has repeatedly reverted Estonian SSR into a former, less detailed and less sourced version", etc.
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Both WP:POINTy templates were added to contentious articles further disrupting the discussions in search of the solution.
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Don't pay too much attention to Petri Krohn, a known weaver of alternative theories, when he's merely saying weird things
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to stop templating the regulars: "This is clearly baiting that can bring nothing but inflaming the conflicts further".
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and a few hours later returned to IRC, where this time he had the luck to make contact with a less critical editor,
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may I point out that this user has in the very recent past ended up on this very board already twice, here and here!
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into his goons so they could do the POV-pushing that he agrees with, but wouldn't want to dirty his own hands with".
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stating: "I, Knowledge user {{{1}}}, do not like this article or section. Just thought you might want to know".
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in a disruptive manner, attempting to push a Russian POV on the article, and using inflammatory edit summaries.
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As I am involved, the selection is biased to some extent, but there are undisputable episodes; please examine:
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wikibreak, id like to reitterate all the cases they have been a party to with evidence presented against them.
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Dojarca submitted two articles and one template for deletion - all within one month, all created by Digwuren:
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Fayssal F blocks RJ CG for 48 hours for "tedious editing" and Petri Krohn for 72 h. for "provocative comments"
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that in my opinion, of all editors involved in this case, he is the only one without any hope of redemption.
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accuses Fayssal of "admin abuse", demands his admin rights to be suspended for a week and Digwuren unblocked.
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reverting of witch was retaliated by removal of the same background information he revert wared over before
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was initiated by me, as requested in this very arbitration case, in response to my proposed finding of fact
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False claim that the Estonia denies the right for a church to practice religion, with comparison to China.
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the former version is superior; there is no need for additional Russophobic slant on this delicate subject
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Balcer's case is not an isolated example. Similar harassment has resulted in withdrawal of other editors:
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Ghirla's concerns of block shopping are unfounded, evidenced by the statements made by the blocking admin
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should also be blocked in order to maintain some semblance of objectivity, and points to Digwuren who was
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that "Ghirla's vandalism and continuing slander has once again escaped again without any consequences".
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the username is (recognisably) misspelt, making it unfindable through searching for the word "Digwuren".
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These are the examples of distructive behavior of the accounts from Baltic states covered by the case.
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continued the disruption even after the Arbitration Committee had placed the article under probation.
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Modern sources from Baltic states and Poland are intentionally fabricated to serve political purposes
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group on very different topics and believing this very group, as nobody came forward to clear them" (
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correcting your distorted statements and being very attentive about supporting my every edit with a
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has engaged in extremely disruptive conduct regarding articles concerning Estonian-Russian relations
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The fact that you personally have a mind block in seeing history as it was does not mean others do.
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for his "good deeds". If ArbCom is interested in the details, I will forward the logs on request.
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Claims of the existence of "hate groups" and "irredentism" on Knowledge on Jimbo Wales' talk page
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RFC/U on Irpen opened in June 2006(and still open for some reason) and its talk shows tagteaming
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Piotrus-Ghirla Arbitration(Dec 2006-Feb 2007) dismissed, because of Ghirla's sudden inactivity
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in hope to derail the discussion. And any lie is good for the holy purpose of trolling, right?"
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Irpen plainly disregards with an antagonizing edit summary a warning about edit waring on a FA
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I'd like to demonstrate one particular example from a early/mid September (so certainly after
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Prove the accusation - or apologize; you expect your editcount to carry you through everything
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Knowledge:Administrators'_noticeboard/IncidentArchive272#User:Petri_Krohn_blocked_for_72_hours
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Despite being asked repeatedly to give examples and sources, so far he has failed to do so.
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Latest bout of disruption started with unilateral and undiscussed moving and re-tasking of
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or "fucking whiner". When I ask those people to explain the background for these comments,
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Up to the moment of the block Digwuren was indeed happily editing Estonia related articles
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Claims that one party to a content dispute "are in fact a hate group" with Nazi sympathies
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But I'm willing to e-mail the relevant logs privately to any arbitrator who requests it.
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Discussion threads are not allowed here. This is to be transferred to the talk by a clerk
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Alexia calls Petri "insane"; Jehochman to her: "maintain civility or you will be blocked"
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with the politeness, possibly wanting to be treated in an uncivil manner. Subsequently,
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where it is rather obvious that he has no proper explanation why it should belong there.
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Compare and contrast Digwuren's one week block without warning for his single revert on
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Please note that this evidence is not complete and will be continued at a later time.
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However, similar odious accusation as the those made above, have recently been made:
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in your own section. Please limit your main evidence to a maximum 1000 words and 100
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Inserting additional comments with personal attacks into already closed discussions
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NOTE: Ive limited myself to two diffs per issue, so this evidence is not exhaustive
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and provide counter-evidence, or an explanation of why the evidence is misleading.
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my ArbCom reminded of the need to edit courteously and cooperatively in the future
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The spree was culminated by attaching nonsense doubt-inducing tags, in this case,
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on Petri Krohn's talkpage, accusing him of inserting weird fantasies, of being a
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of the week, please, kindly, use the sandbox, your own userspace, or preferrably
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Dojarca has repeatedly stated that Poland and Baltic States fabricate history:
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I did not want to present any evidence, but am now reluctantly forced to do so.
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Knowledge:Miscellany for deletion/User:Digwuren/Petri Krohn's Story of Estonians
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behaves as though he's been offended. Consider, for example, the discussion at
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on techniques to mask his edit warring activities and dealing with Korp!Estonia
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before using the last evidence template, please make a copy for the next person
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Suspected bad faith assumptions, incivility and personal attacks by Ghirlandajo
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There are many more diffs from this page but they're too many to list them all
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engaged in stalking the anti-Fascist Finnish User:Petri Krohn on his talk page
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My every attempt to improve (the article) triggers a spree of reverts from you
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deleting entire article sections on Soviet versions of "political correctness"
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FayssalF blocks Digwuren for a week for "tendentious editing and edit warring"
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Immediately after Ghirla's block Irpen posted an accusatory note of injustice
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Thanks to the failure of the community to deal with the behavioural issues in
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We write an encyclopaedia in English, not in some obscure dialiect you quote.
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Ghirla's RFC/U on Piotrus is part of the same pattern as nottet in his reply
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even after several admins and other uninvolved people had endorsed the block
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Much evidence is contained in the deleted pages, to which I have no access (
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Ghirla engages in disruptive editing and removes AN/I reports about himself
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has explained the significance of five sources used for the article, after
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attempted to mislead the Arbitration Committee with his supposed "evidence"
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Just one point in regard to his evidence, concerning Digwuren's statement:
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I blocked RJ_CG for 96 hours with the summary "edit warring on Rein Lang"
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Casualties in this successful campaign of smear by a core group of editors
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tags in attempt to remove them from a number of havily disputed articles
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Rollback of Petri's attempt to keep discussed in one place as "vandalism"
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enforced fairly and equally and almost, that did happen. But not quite...
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Obviously, Digwuren's disruptive attitude did not end with that unblock.
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is often strongly opinionated, especially in all areas having to do with
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When placing evidence here, please be considerate of the Arbitrators and
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and are set upon by Irpen and company for "utterly offensive" comments.
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When you don't present facts, tag articles and discredit editors instead
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Their activities started with a flurry of revert warring. Digwuren made
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I should point out that due to time concerns inappropriately invoked by
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This is the sequence of events leading up to Digwuren's one week block.
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Apart from editing Russia related articles, spends time edit warring on
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In a tactic that is becoming sadly common, Ghirla revises his statement
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The checkuser case is bogus and is abused for the purpose of harassment
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to Estonian editors who may have been offended by his uncivil comment".
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Knowledge:Administrators'_noticeboard/IncidentArchive297#TfD_disruption
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reverting almost the same stuff over and over in an attempt to POV it:
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ended up by being deleted, Digwuren immediately started the articles
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to insult and start a fight, or just phrasing yourself very poorly?"
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Repeated attempts to represent his opponents as pro-Nazi (AN thread
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Just a few past samples of actions where lines are similarly drawn:
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has already made good progress regarding some of the wild claims by
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joins in to continue to harrass the same admin for earlier blocking
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as "our favorite Estonian-hater with his silly conspiracy theories"
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Any mention of Nazis in Estonia (1941-45) is removed as "vandalism"
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Addition of Holocaust-related categories is reverted as "vandalism"
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I am not interested to hear your further attacks on the sources...
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Digwuren is sometimes unnecessarily confrontational and disruptive
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On September 22, Digwuren created the highly non-neutral article
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which can be launched against him by the accounts in question.--
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Predominantely edit wars Estonia related articles, initially as
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I have repeatedly made point that such childish expressions of
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attempt to paint Estonian editors as bad faith meat puppets in
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in defence of an anonymous IP reported on the 3RR notice board
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removing the fact Estonians were concripted into the Waffen SS
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doubts that Digwuren's address was aimed at dispute resolution
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as "somebody with that many delusions and borderline paranoia"
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Digwuren responds to the checkuser case on him with hostility
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I expected better of you, to be honest, but we learn as we go
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Reverting to restore edits by a sock of permabanned Bonaparte
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the username is not wikilinked, making it unfindable through
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Neo-Nazi flavoured revisionism or the heroization of Fascism
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that he can not speedy delete it because he is in fear of a
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Latest event in this chain, a few hours ago today: Digwuren
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Digwuren misuses the Good Article process to further his POV
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where I was accused by Digwuren of "smearing people I hate")
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of posting a "hate-filled pile of lies" on the Workshop page
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of "racist opinion towards Estonians" and "fantasy pushing".
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Vassyana dared to recommend Ghirla to not be this aggressive
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Digwuren writes an unnecessarily confrontational message on
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with impunity. If you are Digwuren, you essentially call a
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Knowledge:Articles for deletion/Moderated nuclear explosion
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Digwuren about Ghirla: "trolls don't have specific genders"
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Another sourced anti-Fascist edit rollbacked as "vandalism"
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Knowledge:Articles_for_deletion/Moderated_nuclear_explosion
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Hard on the heals of his latest 96 hour block of August 31
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Inserting false/unsourced information and fraudulent edits
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Digwuren taunting his opponent as "an one-purpose account"
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posting baiting claims to lure others to uncivil remarks.
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Ghirla and Irpen harass and antagonize people contrary to
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as a more profitable way to promote Russian historiography
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His fourth nomination of an article created by Digwuren (
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On august 7th he tries to insert the same content again:
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A particularly nasty form of this behaviour appears when
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Arbitrators may analyze evidence and other assertions at
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Please make a section for your evidence and add evidence
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Here we can't block someone relying on vague accusations
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Rollback of a stub notice added by Ghirla as "vandalism"
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Creation of inflammatory templates and disruption on TFD
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Numerous instances of disruptive behaviour on behalf of
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regarding some odious remarks that were grossly uncivil.
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Dojarca removed three times the speedy delete tag from
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You'd have been blocked by now as per my message above.
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Rollback of Ghirla's good-natured and appropriate edits
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and calling other editor's actions "vandalism" to boot.
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had blanked the article and made it into a redirect to
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have no interest in preserving the image for Estonians
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asked about them. Note the general extra-polite tone
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immediately begins disrupting the same articles again
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Several accounts were engaged in revert-warring over
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he has knowingly made a false nomination for deletion
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User:ProhibitOnions vs. anti-Fascist editors (redux)
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prior to being subjected to TfD the template said: "
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Creation of inflammatory templates for article space
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edit within the evidence section of any other user.
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See Grafik's post above for additional detail. 2903:Piotrus Arbitration(Apr 2007-Aug 2007) evidence: 2517:Ghirla's concerns of block shopping are unfounded 4785:Harassment of editors: an ongoing success story? 4639:, but immediately started a list, Molobo-style, 4480:points out to incivility on the part of Martintg 3930:as "Ghirla's compatriot" on the Evidence page): 3630:"Petri Krohn is spewing nonsensical accusations" 3585:After the Ghirla-nominated article was deleted, 1800:in this matter, as judged by their comments and 1595:claim regarding a block of me following editing 1534:controversy, have been documented in the RFC/U. 1097:13:18, July 16 - Alexia Death files a complaint 108:. Only Arbitrators may edit /Proposed decision. 5710:Here is the final version of th AFD nomination: 4567:Digwuren's new rant, this time against Bishonen 3810:, thanks to Petri for "providing entertainment" 3804:of "some personal petty hatred against Estonia" 3433:Removed personal attack restored as "vandalism" 3376:A chunk of sourced text deleted as "propaganda" 2586:at Ghirla's user page and they refused to stop 1876:for possibly ill-thought word choice, to which 6209:Occupation of Baltic republics by Nazi Germany 5513:Knowledge:Requests for checkuser/Case/Digwuren 4844:1266st most active Wikipedian with 12675 edits 4641:advertising plans of further tendentious edits 4403:Dbachmann supports blocks for Petri and Alexia 4361:Ghirla suggests to remove the offensive remark 4131:User:Digwuren/Petri Krohn's Story of Estonians 4090:. Starting a blog is not a bad idea, either." 3767:of "definite hatred towards Estonian editors". 3012:Knowledge:Requests for checkuser/Case/Digwuren 1454:Knowledge:Requests for checkuser/Case/Digwuren 1144:"happily 'at work' on his 'new' masterpieces: 886:. Here he attempts to encourage fellow editor 883:, to put a "Estonians are Nazis" POV to them. 691:Talk:Estonian_war_crimes_trials#Requested_move 5406:Accusations in racism and ethnical hatred by 5303:re-creates the article under another name as 3556:"trolling is working out rather well for you" 3386:Rollback of a sourced addition as "vandalism" 3319:with a generic "no personal attacks" template 2430:, which was again brought on TFD. This time, 1410:cases, contesting a block = causing trouble) 6170:was rejected by checkuser administrator and 5662:by Dojarca along with other uncivil remarks 4884:- bringing up two year old incident despite 4851:You will not hear from me again for a while. 4251:Ghirla provides links to Digwuren's trolling 3981:Digwuren: "you will be blocked from editing" 3587:Digwuren obliquely referred to the nominator 3308:"You will be blocked from editing Knowledge" 2794:AS to "Troll ignored", it is a reply to this 2743:The contexts to our simultaneous arrival is 2209:edit made 26h after those 3 - how curious... 2056:unblocked Digwuren stating explicitely that 1978:is trying to associate the concept of being 1933:and without comments in only four minutes. 1352:- "Explanation where Russia are coming from" 3648:of "hateful views" and "pet troll grooming" 3371:Revert warring with Ghirla on his talk page 3237:and Speedily deleted at 07:42 the same day. 3128:Category:AfD debates (Fiction and the arts) 3069:accusations of a bad-faith deletion request 2450:-(this time he simply blanks the statement) 2426:created yet another inflammatory template, 1138:. He points out that atleast one member of 893:to promote the view that the Estonian town 4551:: "When you're trying to troll, you mean". 4073:Knowledge:Requests_for_comment/Petri Krohn 3979:) and revolting anti-vandalism templates ( 3491:(concerning Ghirla): "Make sure you avoid 3196:Inflammatory templates created by Digwuren 2784:Claims of my Incivility are poorly founded 2770:As to "your ethnic slurs are noted", this 2646:Source of revert waring and disruption is 2617:, this was responded with a counterattack 2407:, clearly falling under deletion criteria 1927:answer complete with all evidentiary diffs 1512:Knowledge:Requests for comment/Petri Krohn 1108:blocked for 48h for tendatious editing of 853:Knowledge:Requests_for_comment/Petri_Krohn 803:Knowledge:Requests_for_comment/Petri_Krohn 710:Claim of "yet another example of Estonian 661:Knowledge:Requests_for_comment/Petri_Krohn 6215:, despite consensus against creating it ( 5519:, read to the end, with the talk pages). 5517:Knowledge:Requests for checkuser/Case/DLX 3562:"Put up or shut up, as the gentlemen say" 3350:in the form of DYK-template notification. 3122:), with the deletion debates grotesquely 3016:Knowledge:Requests for checkuser/Case/DLX 2326:- calling others' edits "vandalism" again 1691:On influence of propaganda to reliability 1443:, which redirects to his checkuser case. 1130:that in essence FayssalF wrongly blocked 652:Behaviour of experienced editors as model 5011:(previously, and still on IRC, known as 4794:) render his contributions meaningless. 4535:Digwuren seconds these anti-Ghirla rants 4278:Wanna bet no explanation will ever come? 4108:After prolonged bickering on talk page, 3428:The same category removed as "vandalism" 3130:. Even in English Knowledge, they would 3020:limited to seconding Digwuren's opinions 2108:- with an offensive edit summary to boot 1029:. After some discussion on the approach 926:disputing with an admin over a block on 699:Claiming Estonian editor is engaging in 6122:instructive image for Holocaust deniers 5342:When the new article was deleted again 5284:Re-creation of already deleted articles 4904:and related are enforceable policies?-- 3544:Digwuren's general attitude to civility 3526:urged Digwuren to stop harrassing RJ CG 3448:More rollback abuse against Petri Krohn 3348:leaving him a message about this ArbCom 2862:Ghrila-Irpen tagteam has a long history 1223:User_talk:Ghirlandajo/Summer_2007#3RR_2 1089:'s successful block shopping of July 16 14: 6358:Evidence presented by {your user name} 6203:Tag warring, incivility and disruption 5630:) (also known as Pan Gerwazy) on AN/I 5322:several months later under a new name 4960:Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 4935:Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 4908:Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 3265:as of 07:24, 26 September 2007 (UTC). 3147:Inflammatory templates created by Suva 2321:- removing POV tag without consensus: 2131:after another editor tries to NPOV it. 1685:For background, let me point out that 5274:and refusal to follow the decision.-- 4355:Jenochman endorses Alexia's complaint 4233:Grossly misleading retort by Digwuren 4038:the subject was extensively discussed 3985:Digwuren: "this is your last warning" 3674:Digwuren labels another opponent an " 3599:Another accusation to the same effect 3528:on his talk page, lest he be blocked. 3519:personal information concerning RJ CG 3271:As of 07:35, 26 September 2007 (UTC) 2761:As to bad faith accusations, in this 2667:. This IP editor later registered as 2611:were subjected to similar treatment. 1758:. As we shall see, this is a common 1168:Looking at the short edit history of 1116:blocked for 72h for uncivil comments 3989:another "last warning" from Digwuren 3889:, is an ethnic Ukrainian. Bishonen, 3589:as a "die-hard "You nazi!" screamer" 3298:another last warning for "vandalism" 3136:prevent the comments from being read 3002:. How credible is this coincidence? 2639:Context to Grafkim_fr-s evidence on 2464:(and counter-reported by Digwuren) ( 1104:16:56, July 16 - FayssalF announces 749:, for which he earned a 3 day block. 29: 5651:) along with other uncivil remarks 5019:after Digwuren suggested he review 4923:Update: I think that comments like 3963:one of his first edits in Knowledge 2253:removing POV tags without consensus 1995:Special:Whatlinkshere/User:Digwuren 1285:article a major point of contention 677:Claim that Estonian editors have a 623:The smear continues in other forums 27: 6279:Newspaper is not a reliable source 5362:Revert-warring over article's tags 5299:. Just 6 days after the decision, 4148:"Delete, this is an attack page" ( 3883:even ArbCom apparently bought into 3609:has started to blatantly push pet 3077:"clearly bad-faith AfD nomination" 2802:As to "insult filled reply", this 2507:Evidence presented by Alexia Death 1815:'s long-term pattern of uncivility 1804:'s harassment of anybody opposing 1172:, Digwuren only actually reverted 947:with this odious accusation here: 835:, being blocked for this activity 757:Claims presenting sources such as 28: 18:Knowledge:Requests for arbitration 6394: 5914:Evidence presented by Sander Säde 5183:Who am I and what is my relation? 5136:A note on quoting #wikipedia logs 5095:Talk: Denial of Soviet occupation 3893:of being an "associate member of 3671:that his "judgement is blemished" 3652:Digwuren's diatribe against Irpen 3603:theory of Petri Krohn's existence 2765:had prior knowledge of this term. 2414:What followed was (and still is) 2284:Also note heavy edit warrying by 1634:ought to be considered a form of 910:give encouragement and advice to 6273:He removed section from article 5349:re-created the deleted article: 4080:addressed Petri on his talk page 4051:Attack pages against Petri Krohn 3816:of "bad faith slander and lies". 3104:revert with a misleading summary 2825:Response to Ghirla's accusations 2547:that had been deleted by AfD as 2456:The whole thing was reported on 2422:Only a few days later, the same 2171:- stopping 1 edit short of 3RR: 1189:Talk:Anti-Estonian_sentiment#RfD 33: 5607:, 19.06 by Petri Krohn on AN/I 5460:Evidence presented by Colchicum 5221:act in tandem with each other. 4985:a current request for adminship 4637:blocked for tendentious editing 3997:a vandalism warning from Sander 3714:", wikilinking the latter with 3355:Digwuren's revert warring spree 3112:Republic of Estonia (1990-1991) 2998:although Suva claims that they 2988:Alexia Death 17:02, May 1, 2007 1796:, who may have coöperated with 6238:as stated by Knowledge rules. 5703:- 11:30, 5 October 2007 (UTC) 5318:), and has been re-created by 5153:12:54, 26 September 2007 (UTC) 5129:19:31, 26 September 2007 (UTC) 5106:12:52, 26 September 2007 (UTC) 5080:Dihydrogen Monoxide's ongoing 5025:pass the article for GA status 4946:17:48, 29 September 2007 (UTC) 4919:07:14, 24 September 2007 (UTC) 4775:03:15, 23 September 2007 (UTC) 3863:18:47, 22 September 2007 (UTC) 2920:13:40, 23 September 2007 (UTC) 2620:and more sweeping accusations 1894:17:15, 29 September 2007 (UTC) 1647:15:38, 17 September 2007 (UTC) 1530:, many of them related to the 1506:Evidence presented by Digwuren 1269:20:50, 19 September 2007 (UTC) 1234:00:28, 13 September 2007 (UTC) 930:for his tendatious editing of 792:20:51, 10 September 2007 (UTC) 646:21:11, 29 September 2007 (UTC) 13: 1: 5246:Evidence presented by Dojarca 5118:being considered for deletion 4780:Evidence presented by Piotrus 3885:. The initiator of the case, 3081:"your ethnic slurs are noted" 2731:Responses to Irpen's evidence 2526:and several unrelated admins 2497:Piotr's award to the offender 2066:Edit warrying and POV Pushing 1948:has completely ignored this. 1562:02:33, 9 September 2007 (UTC) 1539:18:56, 3 September 2007 (UTC) 1196:04:57, 5 September 2007 (UTC) 1081:23:46, 2 September 2007 (UTC) 6241:Dojarca inserted repeatedly 5610:, 19.06 by Ghirlandajo on a 5533:) was eventually blocked by 5455:01:22, 16 October 2007 (UTC) 5178:Evidence presented by Liempt 4596:Paul Pieniezny's observation 4431:offers his sincere apologies 4411:. Alexia is not blocked for 4274:Wait a sec... Please explain 3654:: "Irpen is trying to groom 3063:after an acrimonious AfD as 2495:and immediately followed by 2319:Soviet occupation of Romania 1490:regarding a Russian editor, 1439:, which contained a link to 897:harbours Nazi collaborators. 7: 6377:{Write your assertion here} 6368:{Write your assertion here} 6311:), he once again moved it ( 6275:Occupation of Baltic states 6270:(with edit summary "rvv"). 6253:Occupation of Baltic states 6213:Occupation of Baltic states 5909:01:26, 9 October 2007 (UTC) 5748:07:33, 5 October 2007 (UTC) 5730:10:54, 5 October 2007 (UTC) 5718:05:42, 5 October 2007 (UTC) 5701:22:51, 4 October 2007 (UTC) 5601:, 18.06 by Petri Krohn on 5445:Template:Soviet occupations 5430:09:57, 9 October 2007 (UTC) 5401:03:41, 3 October 2007 (UTC) 5357:01:24, 4 October 2007 (UTC) 5338:02:33, 3 October 2007 (UTC) 5324:Denial of Soviet occupation 5312:Soviet occupation denialism 5279:01:58, 3 October 2007 (UTC) 5172:04:33, 5 October 2007 (UTC) 5114:Denial of Soviet occupation 5061:Denial of Soviet occupation 5046:Denial of Soviet occupation 5021:Denial of Soviet occupation 4997:Denial of Soviet occupation 4971:21:00, 4 October 2007 (UTC) 4647:Note on off-wiki activities 4465:steps up to defend Digwuren 3634:Digwuren refers to Petri's 3592:Digwuren accusing Petri of 3453:six (!) reverts in 13 hours 3294:"this is your last warning" 3057:Soviet occupation denialism 2993:Digwuren 11:33, May 1, 2007 2925:Evidence presented by Irpen 2545:Allied occupation of Europe 2229:removing referenced content 2027:{Write your assertion here} 2022:19:12, 7 October 2007 (UTC) 1958:07:30, 6 October 2007 (UTC) 831:, and also edit warring on 668:04:58, 28 August 2007 (UTC) 10: 6399: 6150:Lies and disruption in AfD 5696:)). This is over the top. 4578:speedily closed the thread 3820:Sander/DLX accusing Ghirla 3814:Sander/DLX accusing Ghirla 3310:, apparently for starting 3116:Estonian SSR (independent) 3000:have never seen each other 2983:Suva 10:16, April 30, 2007 2830:Block shopping: This diff 2739:accusations are groundless 1450:Knowledge:Big Sock Fishing 1441:Knowledge:Big Sock Fishing 890:to act as his meat puppet 879:since June , particularly 725:is common among Estonians 721:Claim that dismissing the 84:simple diff and link guide 5958:(about Estonian language) 5314:has been deleted in May ( 4764:shops on arbitrator pages 4721:Piotrus+Ghirlandajo (RfA) 4490:Deskana unblocks Digwuren 4057:User:Digwuren/Petri Krohn 3790:Sander Säde/DLX chimes in 3623:Digwuren describing Petri 3605:, a former entity called 3567:Digwuren's comment on AfD 3513:In flagrant violation of 3071:leveled against Ghirla: " 2745:Bronze Soldier of Tallinn 2293:Bronze Soldier of Tallinn 1532:Bronze Soldier of Tallinn 1437:Template:Big Sock Fishing 1006:Apparent double standards 5577:User talk:Paul Pieniezny 5435:Accusations in Stalinism 5009:User:Dihydrogen Monoxide 4383:Ghirla appeals to reason 3317:Alexia threatening Petri 3235:07:35, 26 September 2007 2936:Three related accounts 2097:Estonia-Russia relations 1666:claims of violations of 1611:constitute reversion of 1597:Estonia-Russia relations 1365:were reverted by either 1185:Estonia-Russia relations 1134:who was merely opposing 1110:Russo-Estonian relations 6351:your mob of POV-pushers 5345:, less than in an hour 5305:Anti-Estonian sentiment 5296:. Later it was deleted 4863:see his goodbye message 4623:Anti-Estonian sentiment 4576:At this point, someone 3796:Sander describing Petri 3646:Digwuren accusing Irpen 3479:Digwuren to Petri Krohn 3205:Insufficient propaganda 3132:communicate in Estonian 3010:. Two checkuser cases ( 2848:Anti-Estonian sentiment 2093:Anti-Estonian sentiment 1755:, onto the article, in 1202:Anti-Estonian sentiment 1170:Anti-Estonian sentiment 1146:Anti-Estonian sentiment 4976:Evidence presented by 4664:Evidence presented by 4371:resumes block shopping 3928:fraudulently described 3868:Evidence presented by 3708:Digwuren calling Irpen 3521:'s IP address. Later, 3517:, Digwuren publicized 3138:by other wikipedians. 2405:Template:Notpropaganda 2036:Evidence presented by 1274:Evidence presented by 1179:before being blocked. 989:, changed identity to 112:Evidence presented by 5082:Request for adminship 5017:one minute and a half 4471:Erik expresses regret 4429:Blocked Petri Krohn " 3839:Erik bewails Ghirla's 3802:Sander accusing Petri 3734:Alexia about Ghirla: 3594:"weird manipulations" 3493:user space harassment 3287:Template the regulars 2917:Alexia Death the Grey 2493:my request is deleted 2288:in the same article. 1772:Occupations of Latvia 1687:Soviet historiography 1680:Soviet historiography 977:User:Beatles_Fab_Four 851:to study the rejected 739:Estonian irredentism 6349:Labelling users as " 5447:"Stalin glorifiers" 5292:has been created by 5214:Digwuren's userspace 4605:Digwuren admits his 4571:Cartel USSR Forever! 4477:User:KillerChihuahua 4317:Fayssal's reaction: 4025:relevant NPOV source 3895:Cartel USSR Forever! 3704:Petri of "vandalism" 3697:"an anti-me crusade" 3601:: "According to the 3560:Digwuren to Ghirla: 3554:Digwuren to Ghirla: 3489:Bishonen to Digwuren 3461:consisted of reverts 2214:and here we go again 2052:. Since last block, 1844:Talk:Adam Lazarowicz 1452:, redirecting it to 1397:while reverting him 1038:, with the infamous 991:User:Beatle_Fab_Four 6292:After the template 6283:Wall Street Journal 5945:Racism/ethnic slurs 4873:and explained that 4549:Bishonen's reaction 4376:Fayssal to Alexia: 4312:Digwuren recommends 4084:alternative history 4033:User:ProhibitOnions 3920:User:Paul Pieniezny 3891:accused by Digwuren 3776:Suva about Ghirla: 3771:Suva accusing Petri 3765:Suva accusing Petri 3483:stalked by Digwuren 3306:Digwuren to Irpen: 3292:Digwuren to Petri: 3183:deleted through TfD 3096:revert using popups 3079:(DLX/Sander Sade); 2475:Concerns voiced by 2428:Template:POV_Russia 2403:created a template 2247:Congress of Estonia 1988:Talk:Ghetto ławkowe 51:in your own section 6168:one checkuser case 6128:Dojarca's behavior 5264:Pēters J. Vecrumba 5002:User:Francis Tyers 4771:Pēters J. Vecrumba 4711:Durova (Mediation) 4521:19 September, Suva 4456:endorses the block 3970:The hunt for RJ CG 3939:User:Otto ter Haar 3910:alerted the sysops 3740:Alexia to Ghirla: 3693:User:Alex Bakharev 3691:Digwuren accusing 3342:Digwuren taunting 3333:Digwuren cautioned 3323:Digwuren cautioned 3124:placed by Digwuren 3088:a sterling example 2641:Monument of Lihula 2608:Others like Maxim 2075:Monument of Lihula 1861:. Paradoxically, 1826:'s involvement in 1787:Soviet occupations 1617:Russian Federation 797:Disruptive editors 683:Talk:The Holocaust 106:/Proposed decision 6297:Soviet occupation 5376:original research 4751:Petri Krohn (RfC) 4746:Irpen (checkuser) 4706:Ghirlandajo (RfC) 4453:User:Tom harrison 4389:Suva about Ghirla 4194:19 June, Martintg 4115:as "uncertified". 3754:on this very page 3728:Alexia to Petri: 3702:Digwuren accusing 3669:User:Ypetrachenko 3666:Digwuren accusing 3573:is doing here is 3100:revert using UNDO 3059:, was deleted by 2541:Soviet occupation 2286:User:Alexia Death 2224:- edit warrying: 2169:Soviet occupation 1944:'s talkpage, but 1448:Digwuren created 1435:Digwuren created 1316:RJ_CG has edited 1213:Soviet occupation 1122:18:37, July 16 - 996:for edit warring 763:is "hate speech" 620: 619: 61: 60: 6390: 6301: 6295: 6250: 6244: 6237: 6231: 6056: 5987:Personal attacks 5745: 5417: 5310:Another article 5268:User:Sander_Säde 5169: 5164: 5050:I Don't Remember 5037:I Don't 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