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In some cases, such as when editors are suggesting multiple retargeting options, it may be best to close the discussion as "no consensus, disambiguate" with the disambiguation page listing the various options as applicable. Other times, it may still be appropriate to give a simple no-consensus close.
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In some cases, there's broad consensus against an existing redirect, but editors disagree as to whether it should be deleted, retargeted, or another action taken. Although an outcome of no consensus usually means no change to the status quo, this can be nonsensical when there is broad consensus that
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The practice of redirecting a user page to the user's own talk page is not uncommon. User talk pages themselves should always primarily be a way of contacting that user. So while a user talk page may redirect to a current page from an old username, or to another Knowledge where the user is primarily
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to another have historically been controversial. Arguments for and against them are available in the essay linked above. Especially at RfD, the tendency has been to delete cross-namespace redirects (CNRs) which were recently created, although what qualifies as "recent" may have to be decided through
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covers "likely alternative capitalizations." While Knowledge's search function is generally case-insensitive, these redirects aid linking from other articles and external sites. When there is a connection between the subject and an alternative capitalization, it is usually kept. However, if the
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are usually kept, except in template space, where consensus is that typos in template names should be corrected. These can include spelling errors, and extra or missing punctuation. However, if a single redirect contains multiple typos, it may be considered an unlikely search term and deleted.
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As the above essay states, "Redirects from other languages should generally be avoided unless a well-grounded rationale can be provided for their inclusion." This means redirects in languages other than English are usually deleted. The major exception is for redirects where the language of the
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Treatment of pseudo-namespace redirects (PNRs) is not as straightforward. A redirect from "P:Foo" to "Portal:Foo" is technically cross-namespace, so some editors believe a PNR should be treated like any other CNR. But because some PNRs are widely accepted, others feel PNRs need to be weighed
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The default outcome of any request for change which receives no other discussion is to approve the request. Thus, a redirect nominated for deletion in good faith and in accordance with RfD policy will always be deleted if the nomination is unopposed, even if no one else participated in the
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Redirects containing a mixture of Latin and non-Latin characters are often implausible search terms because characters from different scripts generally never appear on the same keyboard. A common example is the substitution of a Latin letter with an
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There are many pages of essays, policies, and guidelines about determining notability. RfD doesn't have a similar focus, so there's not much documentation available to guide redirect discussions. This page is an attempt to address this deficiency.
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Though this results in a final outcome of retarget, it is still useful to record the close as "no consensus, retarget", just as we would say "no consensus" rather than "keep" in a typical no-consensus close with no change to the status quo.
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are intended for readers, for example, so redirects from article (main) namespace to portal namespace are often kept. Conversely, a redirect from article namespace to a template or Knowledge page is usually deleted.
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This page simply attempts to summarize Knowledge's common daily practice in redirect debates. If you feel that a common outcome for the type of redirect you are discussing does not apply, then give a
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Editors should be aware that emojis are often rendered differently on different systems. Titles that contain multiple emojis or mix emojis and other characters are usually deleted.
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can be useful to help resolve these debates, but editors are not bound to follow past practice. Furthermore, for most examples on this page, counter-examples exist. This page
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and the titles of creative works originally published in another language. It may also be appropriate to keep such redirects if their use is discussed at their target page.
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to avoid reader confusion. An editor who specifically wants their user page to redirect to an article might be allowed to do so; this does not occur frequently.
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If the redirect has a title that suggests an article, whether it is kept often depends on whether the target is intended for readers or editors.
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discussion. Long-standing CNRs, or those that are frequently used, are more likely to be kept. Some CNRs may be speedily deleted under criterion
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This page summarizes the typical outcomes of past RfD discussions for some commonly nominated types of redirects. This page is not a
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One common type of redirect is from a subject which could be expanded to its own article in the future. The template
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This is especially true when there is no scope for disambiguating and/or there is some appetite for the status quo.
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This page provides additional information about concepts in the page(s) it supplements. This page is not one of
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capitalization difference is implausible, unnatural, or novel, it may be considered unhelpful and be deleted.
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Don't rely too much on these "common outcomes" when stating a case at Redirects for Discussion.
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process, in which even a mainspace article can be deleted without objection after a week.
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Recently created redirects from typo may be subject to speedy deletion under criterion
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active, user talk pages should never redirect to another namespace.
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characters. When there is an article on an emoji itself (e.g.
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Index

Knowledge:Redirects for discussion
Knowledge:RTYPO
explanatory essay
Knowledge:Deletion policy
Knowledge:Redirect#When should we delete a redirect?
Knowledge's policies or guidelines
thoroughly vetted by the community
Shortcuts
WP:RFDO
WP:RFDOUTCOMES
WP:RFDCO
Deletion discussions
Deletion today
Undeletion
Deletion review
Deletion log
Request a copy of a
deleted article

Articles
today
all
sorted
closing
log
Templates and modules
today
all
closing
holding
Files
today

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