177:, but it was unsuccessful. It stated: "article would not pass FAC in current state. Suggest waiting until 60th birthday (which is a more notable anniversary than 55th) to re-run the article as TFA, after which improvements would have been made." On the talk page, I asked for article issues, but no response was made in the past 2 weeks. Please take your time to review and I would like to address the article's concerns.
666:
it looks like all the subpar sources have been removed, and I've linked some more terms. Before I make additional changes with linking (or lack thereof) for publications used more than once (such as multiple MTV News or
Entertainment Weekly articles), does anybody know for certain whether it's
416:
1c, and probably others would take issue with 1a. There are some websites that aren't high-quality sources for a biography (or really anything) like TheThings, Fame10, Nicki Swift, Daily Mirror, Gossip Cop, Daily
Express, etc. Also, the most significant scholarly work on Carey
626:
I'll at least start work on citations within the next 24 hours, though with regards to linking terms, I thought it was common practice to only link the first one to use a term and that subsequent uses of that publication didn't need linking per WP:OVERLINK. From a glance at
836:
You're right. Let's think positive, not negative, shall we? I'm also planning to write major changes in the sandbox first before revamping it in the article itself. This time, I would also split Carey's cultural status to its own article: like
913:
The article looks savable to me, and there does not seem to have been any substantial change in Carey's career that would require it to go through a complete rewriting. Can you guys catch me up on what specifically still needs doing here,
773:
Let's not be so hasty; I've cleaned out lots of duplicate links from the article body and
Heartfox has helped me in improving citations. How much splitting would be adequate? In the meantime, I also have touched up some of the prose.
220:
As was noted in the TFA discussion, if there is to be an FAR for this article, specific concerns have to be identified on the article's talk page as a first step - I don't see that that was done?
751:. Improving while its FA status is active not enough. Would suggest removing the status first, then once the article meets the FA criteria, then the article can be ready for re-promotion.
743:
The sections too are very long, unlike the Regine
Velasquez and Taylor Swift articles, which are very concise and short. Consider splitting it into subsections in a similar fashion to
544:, the citations should be consistently formatted. The citations are not formatted consistently; some of the publishers are linked, while others are not. Also, there are many
593:
174:
83:
As of 24 September 2024, 01:30 (UTC), this page is active and open for discussion. A FAR coordinator will advance or close this nomination when consensus is reached.
768:
729:
613:
110:
105:
100:
444:
793:
528:
405:
346:
312:
287:
265:
1060:
898:
874:
715:
686:
658:
373:
87:
463:
1013:
985:
963:
500:, do either of you have any interest in trying to address the sourcing issues? If no one wants to take this on, it'll probably be delisted shortly.
824:
509:
573:
197:
95:
21:
229:
1091:
485:
935:
577:
569:
944:
Except for perhaps expanding on legacy (debatable how much should be added), I can't think of much else to do with the page now.
159:
1029:
Sorry about not being able to improve the article. I was busy working on other articles, but would agree with your decisions to
561:
432:
968:
Thank you. I will shortly do research for any stuff that needs adding there; in the meantime, I feel comfortable putting a
698:
It depends on what you choose. Would suggest that improvements should made in due time, otherwise its status will be gone.
1052:
871:
765:
712:
610:
401:
308:
261:
193:
364:, I do not see that you have posted to the talk page - are you still intending to move forward with the review process?
842:
425:
241:
There are some concerns in the article, like it does not follow some of the Manual of Style. Featured articles follow
132:
17:
565:
55:
50:
850:
59:
412:
For the benefit of reviewers, I'm going to copy
Heartfox's comment from the talk page here: "Mainly issues with
1007:
957:
892:
818:
787:
680:
652:
42:
725:
505:
440:
64:
846:
548:
in the article (as I've checked), which is also required by the criterion 2. Featured articles follow
205:
This FAR has been reopened and please take your time to re-review this featured article. According to
127:
879:
Not a bad idea at all. Before you implement the sandbox changes, please do show what they look like.
553:
76:
168:
1047:
868:
762:
721:
720:
There's no hurry; typically an FAR stays open as long as there are people willing to work on it.
709:
607:
535:
501:
436:
397:
304:
257:
189:
854:
588:
as two example for articles that follow proper FA guidelines. When you look at the article, it
557:
469:
1087:
802:
628:
481:
369:
342:
283:
225:
72:
8:
979:
929:
805:
is what the article looks like afterwards. Hopefully it's a step in the right direction.
1035:
1001:
951:
915:
886:
859:
812:
781:
753:
700:
674:
646:
598:
580:). For now, I am planning to rewrite the article and fix the issues. I advise you take
517:
458:
387:
361:
294:
247:
215:
179:
155:
151:
68:
545:
429:
422:
46:
581:
525:
1083:
592:
all of the standards for featured articles. Hopefully, the Carey article will be
477:
380:
365:
338:
279:
236:
221:
30:
1020:
974:
924:
541:
413:
1077:
1024:
995:
945:
919:
880:
831:
806:
775:
693:
668:
640:
497:
493:
453:
206:
585:
38:
31:
744:
522:
421:
by Andrew Chan) isn't cited, as are two recent academic book chapters (
596:
in a couple years from now when it meets all of the FA standards.
278:
Okay, but were these concerns raised on the article talk page?
209:, some of the article's sources are not high-quality reliable.
667:
expected to be a first-mention-only or all-instances ordeal?
748:
452:, it looks like the sourcing definitely needs some work.
137:
337:for the moment to give that a chance to happen.
111:Featured article review/Mariah Carey/archive3
106:Featured article review/Mariah Carey/archive2
101:Featured article review/Mariah Carey/archive1
1082:Have your sourcing concerns been addressed?
801:: I boldly went ahead with some splits and
540:From what I can see, per criterion 2c of
560:only follow five of the MOS guidelines (
88:Featured article candidates/Mariah Carey
14:
333:So let's do that first. This will be
841:. Title follows other articles like
385:You say so. This has been reopened.
96:Featured article review/Mariah Carey
27:
843:Cultural impact of Michael Jackson
28:
1103:
18:Knowledge:Featured article review
851:Cultural impact of Taylor Swift
839:Cultural impact of Mariah Carey
1092:17:43, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
1061:09:20, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
990:Sure thing, and I'll also say
13:
1:
1014:13:44, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
986:10:36, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
347:04:36, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
313:04:17, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
288:01:00, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
266:00:55, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
230:00:10, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
198:00:05, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
175:nominated the article for TFA
635:is just linked in ref#5 and
631:, it would for example mean
7:
964:17:40, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
936:04:58, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
10:
1108:
847:Cultural impact of Madonna
445:03:10, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
406:10:12, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
82:
899:11:58, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
875:11:08, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
825:03:22, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
794:01:49, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
769:01:03, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
730:03:13, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
716:12:21, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
687:15:28, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
659:13:17, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
614:12:10, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
529:11:41, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
510:08:27, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
374:03:06, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
629:this version of the page
486:16:36, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
419:Why Mariah Carey Matters
160:WikiProject Mariah Carey
464:23:38, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
855:Cultural impact of BTS
203:UPDATE March 23, 2024
722:Extraordinary Writ
633:The New York Times
578:list incorporation
536:Extraordinary Writ
502:Extraordinary Writ
437:Extraordinary Writ
245:style guidelines.
1059:
1058:
594:re-promoted to FA
433:978-1-5013-6825-7
164:
145:
144:
1099:
1081:
1055:
1050:
1045:
1044:
1041:
1038:
1028:
865:
862:
835:
759:
756:
706:
703:
697:
604:
601:
582:Regine Velasquez
539:
521:
393:
390:
384:
300:
297:
253:
250:
240:
219:
185:
182:
148:
117:
116:
80:
62:
1107:
1106:
1102:
1101:
1100:
1098:
1097:
1096:
1075:
1053:
1048:
1039:
1036:
1018:
863:
860:
829:
757:
754:
704:
701:
691:
602:
599:
554:Manual of Style
546:duplicate links
533:
515:
472:
462:
391:
388:
378:
298:
295:
251:
248:
234:
213:
183:
180:
171:
115:
84:
53:
37:
35:
26:
25:
24:
12:
11:
5:
1105:
1095:
1094:
1072:
1071:
1070:
1069:
1068:
1067:
1066:
1065:
1064:
1063:
939:
938:
910:
909:
908:
907:
906:
905:
904:
903:
902:
901:
771:
738:
737:
736:
735:
734:
733:
732:
661:
619:
618:
617:
616:
570:words to watch
531:
490:
489:
471:
468:
467:
466:
456:
447:
426:978-1538169063
410:
409:
408:
358:
357:
356:
355:
354:
353:
352:
351:
350:
349:
322:
321:
320:
319:
318:
317:
316:
315:
271:
270:
269:
268:
170:
169:Review section
167:
166:
165:
143:
142:
141:
140:
138:External links
135:
130:
122:
121:
114:
113:
108:
103:
98:
92:
91:
90:
34:
29:
15:
9:
6:
4:
3:
2:
1104:
1093:
1089:
1085:
1079:
1074:
1073:
1062:
1057:
1056:
1051:
1043:
1042:
1032:
1026:
1022:
1017:
1016:
1015:
1011:
1010:
1005:
1004:
999:
998:
993:
989:
988:
987:
984:
983:
982:
978:
977:
971:
967:
966:
965:
961:
960:
955:
954:
949:
948:
943:
942:
941:
940:
937:
934:
933:
932:
928:
927:
921:
917:
916:ScarletViolet
912:
911:
900:
896:
895:
890:
889:
884:
883:
878:
877:
876:
873:
870:
867:
866:
856:
852:
848:
844:
840:
833:
828:
827:
826:
822:
821:
816:
815:
810:
809:
804:
800:
797:
796:
795:
791:
790:
785:
784:
779:
778:
772:
770:
767:
764:
761:
760:
750:
746:
742:
739:
731:
727:
723:
719:
718:
717:
714:
711:
708:
707:
695:
690:
689:
688:
684:
683:
678:
677:
672:
671:
665:
662:
660:
656:
655:
650:
649:
644:
643:
638:
634:
630:
625:
624:
623:
622:
621:
620:
615:
612:
609:
606:
605:
595:
591:
587:
583:
579:
575:
571:
567:
563:
562:lead sections
559:
558:Good articles
555:
551:
547:
543:
537:
532:
530:
527:
524:
519:
518:ScarletViolet
514:Also pinging
513:
512:
511:
507:
503:
499:
495:
492:
491:
488:
487:
483:
479:
474:
473:
465:
461:
460:
455:
451:
448:
446:
442:
438:
434:
431:
427:
424:
420:
415:
411:
407:
403:
399:
395:
394:
382:
377:
376:
375:
371:
367:
363:
362:ScarletViolet
360:
359:
348:
344:
340:
336:
332:
331:
330:
329:
328:
327:
326:
325:
324:
323:
314:
310:
306:
302:
301:
291:
290:
289:
285:
281:
277:
276:
275:
274:
273:
272:
267:
263:
259:
255:
254:
244:
238:
233:
232:
231:
227:
223:
217:
216:ScarletViolet
212:
211:
210:
208:
204:
200:
199:
195:
191:
187:
186:
176:
163:
161:
157:
153:
147:
146:
139:
136:
134:
131:
129:
126:
125:
124:
123:
119:
118:
112:
109:
107:
104:
102:
99:
97:
94:
93:
89:
86:
85:
81:
78:
74:
70:
66:
61:
57:
52:
48:
44:
40:
33:
23:
19:
1046:
1034:
1030:
1008:
1002:
996:
991:
980:
975:
973:
969:
958:
952:
946:
930:
925:
923:
893:
887:
881:
858:
838:
819:
813:
807:
798:
788:
782:
776:
752:
740:
699:
681:
675:
669:
663:
653:
647:
641:
637:Toronto Star
636:
632:
597:
589:
586:Taylor Swift
549:
475:
470:FARC section
457:
450:Move to FARC
449:
418:
386:
334:
293:
246:
242:
202:
201:
178:
172:
149:
133:Citation bot
39:Mariah Carey
36:
32:Mariah Carey
22:Mariah Carey
745:The Beatles
639:in ref#27.
1084:Nikkimaria
556:, whereas
478:Nikkimaria
476:Sourcing.
381:Nikkimaria
366:Nikkimaria
339:Nikkimaria
280:Nikkimaria
237:Nikkimaria
222:Nikkimaria
150:Notified:
1021:MaranoFan
1078:Hog Farm
1025:SNUGGUMS
997:SNUGGUMS
947:SNUGGUMS
920:SNUGGUMS
882:SNUGGUMS
832:SNUGGUMS
808:SNUGGUMS
777:SNUGGUMS
694:SNUGGUMS
670:SNUGGUMS
642:SNUGGUMS
498:SNUGGUMS
494:Heartfox
454:Hog Farm
402:contribs
309:contribs
262:contribs
207:Heartfox
194:contribs
156:Heartfox
152:SNUGGUMS
128:Analysis
20: |
1037:Scarlet
994:as FA.
972:here.--
861:Scarlet
857:, etc.
755:Scarlet
741:UPDATE:
702:Scarlet
600:Scarlet
590:follows
574:fiction
552:of the
542:WP:FACR
414:WP:FACR
389:Scarlet
335:on hold
296:Scarlet
249:Scarlet
181:Scarlet
173:I have
120:Toolbox
56:protect
51:history
1040:Violet
864:Violet
799:UPDATE
758:Violet
705:Violet
664:UPDATE
603:Violet
576:, and
566:layout
392:Violet
299:Violet
292:Nope.
252:Violet
184:Violet
60:delete
1009:edits
959:edits
894:edits
820:edits
789:edits
682:edits
654:edits
77:views
69:watch
65:links
16:<
1088:talk
1031:keep
1023:and
1003:talk
992:keep
970:keep
953:talk
918:and
888:talk
814:talk
803:here
783:talk
747:and
726:talk
676:talk
648:talk
584:and
506:talk
496:and
482:talk
459:Talk
441:talk
435:)."
430:ISBN
428:and
423:ISBN
398:talk
370:talk
343:talk
305:talk
284:talk
258:talk
226:talk
190:talk
73:logs
47:talk
43:edit
922:?--
749:BTS
550:all
523:750
243:all
1090:)
1033:.
1012:)
1006:/
962:)
956:/
897:)
891:/
872:📝
869:💬
853:,
849:,
845:,
823:)
817:/
792:)
786:/
766:📝
763:💬
728:)
713:📝
710:💬
685:)
679:/
657:)
651:/
611:📝
608:💬
572:,
568:,
564:,
526:h+
508:)
484:)
443:)
404:)
400:•
372:)
345:)
311:)
307:•
286:)
264:)
260:•
228:)
196:)
192:•
162:,
158:,
154:,
75:|
71:|
67:|
63:|
58:|
54:|
49:|
45:|
1086:(
1080::
1076:@
1054:c
1049:t
1027::
1019:@
1000:(
981:Ø
976:N
950:(
931:Ø
926:N
885:(
834::
830:@
811:(
780:(
724:(
696::
692:@
673:(
645:(
538::
534:@
520::
516:@
504:(
480:(
439:(
417:(
396:(
383::
379:@
368:(
341:(
303:(
282:(
256:(
239::
235:@
224:(
218::
214:@
188:(
79:)
41:(
Text is available under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License. Additional terms may apply.