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which didn't match the sources, and went through them clearing out the misinformation. This came to to the attention of a
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African election articles tweeted about it, which started edit warring about infoboxes across over a hundred articles. Like the January incident, it included widespread blind reverting to French
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I am uninvolved in the dispute, and I don't know the facts in the dispute. However, I would like to address the possible remedy for off-wiki canvassing, if any. Here, protecting the article page and the talk page might be sufficient to deter the majority of new editors, as they hopefully would have
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Place argument and diffs which support the second assertion; for example, your second assertion might be "So-and-so makes personal attacks", which should be the title of this section. Here you would show specific edits where So-and-so made personal attacks.
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