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see in the links below, I have made almost the double of total edits during our stay in
Knowledge, and almost to eightfold unique articles. That does not mean that I’m better or worse than him, it just mean that we work in Knowledge with different approaches. It also means that neither of us is a novice or newcomer. And there’s a detail that should be considered: all those featured articles that he wrote are about obscure topics for the English-speaking world, and hardly anyone besides him is interested in working with them. I’m not saying that on a derogatory sense: the same thing goes for almost all South American related articles (including the ones that I have created or expanded). All those articles have been made by Lecen and other users supporting him with copyediting or working with images. I’m saying this to point that, despite of his number of featured articles, Lecen has little experience in working toguether with someone pointing flaws in the content of his articles. His approach has been rather poor: instead of trying to work toguether, or talk about things, he tries to get me out of the way, to work alone as he always done. I have pointed that in my initial post: Lecen began to ask for mediation
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to such heroes, such as monuments, national days and even his face in currency banknotes. Is there fascism involved? No. First, Rosas himself was no fascist, fascism did not even exist back in the 1830s.Yes, there was an attempt by fascists revisionists to promote Rosas as a national hero, but it was a complete failure. They succedded in pointing the flaws of the history of Rosas as it was understood so far, but failed to change the popular perception of Rosas. Lecen detailed it himself at the "How was Juan Manuel de Rosas seen in
Argentina?" section. As of 1961, Rosas was not seen as a national hero: the acceptance of the work done by the 1930s historians was limited to the academics in their ivory towers. The popular acceptance of Rosas came in the 1970s, part of a different and unrelated movement. Both movements saw Rosas as a role model, but for completely different reasons: in the 1930s it was mainly because of his conservatism, religosity and strict observance of the law. In the 1970s it was mainly because of his economic protectionism, his popular support and the victories against the British and French blockades.
3403:"it was the Argentine national equivalent to Nazism (in Germany)..." Stop. Hold the phone there. Argentine and German nationalisms are in no way comparable. In 1930, Germany was a world power, with centuries of history and a clear and defined idea of nationhood and national identity. Argentina, on the other hand, was only an emerging power, which had only one century of history, a century with ever-changing national limits during a long civil war, and most of the population died during that conflict and the void was replaced by a great immigrantion wave of Europeans. Argentine nationalism was a very weak ideology, it was more whishful thinking than something with tangible effects. Just compare the results: the 1930s German nationalist began the highest genocide and the biggest war in human history. The 1930s Argentine nationalism began the coup d’etat of José Félix Uriburu... that only lasted for a year and half, before having to call to elections and hand government to his political enemy, Agustín Pedro Justo.
3470:. Lecen claims that those articles are biased "to reinforce the appearance of legitimacy" of revisionism, but have a closer look. Except for Pepe Rosa, whose book is used as the source of a quotation, all the authors cited in those articles or sections and all the important claims are made by foreign authors, or by non-revisionist Argentines, such as Félix Luna or Fernando Devoto. If it seems as if revisionism has been accepted and incorporated into the mainstream history, is because that is precisely what has happened. Note that the quotes that Lecen took here talk about the political ideas of the 1930s historians, but they never actually say that their research was faulty or flawed, or that it was rejected. Perhaps because that is beyond the scope of David Rock’s book, which is about the 1930s nationalism and not about the historiography of Argentina.
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could be resolved by the community. I'd like to see the day when ArbCom is no longer needed because the community's dispute resolution procedures are working efficiently. We can assist that process by identifying situations which the community can handle, and rejecting those requests. Too much this year we have been accepting cases which can be dealt with by the community, and that erodes the community's confidence and ability to tackle cases themselves. I am also uncomfortable that we would consider accepting cases on a hierarchical system where concerns raised by FA contributors are taken more seriously than concerns raised by other members of the community. We should accept cases based on a judgement of the disruption to the community because of an inability for the community to resolve the matter, rather than on who is raising the concern.
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on last
December, but keeps pointing to things that happened 4 years ago during a good article review. He loves to say that things have been going on for years, but that is false. I’m amazed that he has hold a grudge for so much time about something that even I had already forgot about... and worse, a grudge for a discussion that actually ended the way he wanted it to end. To keep things shorter, I will avoid the outdated discussions (but I can explain them if so required). And third: the name "History of Argentina" was selected as a better name than one with users, to avoid the confrontation tone, but the discussions have always been specifically about Juan Manuel de Rosas and related articles (check the links in "other steps" at the begining). We have never discussed about articles on other time periods of Argentina.
3421:). For example: the revisionist and fascist Leopoldo Lugones wrote "The Hour of the Sword" ("La hora de la espada"), calling for a military coup against president Hipólito Yrigoyen, setting a comparison between it and the military victory at the battle of Ayacucho. Reprovable. Should we consider Lugones an unreliable author because of having such reprobable political ideas? Perhaps. But even if we agree on that, why should we extend the concept to Emilio Ravignani, who warned that history should not be used for apology of modern dictatorships, or to Gálves, who rejected the coup of Uriburu? Or to make it closer in time: Lecen has mentioned as well the author Pacho O’Donnell, author of a recent best-seller biography of Rosas. May I ask for a source that
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point where what start out as content issues become conduct ones. We can't yet decide whether any editor's editing has reached that point here, but the situation is worth our taking a look at. To all concerned, please note that our voting to take the case is not a criticism of or adverse finding as to any editor; our acceptance of a request for arbitration is the beginning, not the end, of a process. The
Committee would benefit from informed participation by uninvolved editors with subject-matter expertise at the evidence and workshopping stages, on the question of whether the allegations of use of highly disreputable and unreliable sources, quotation of Spanish-language sources incompletely or out of context, and the like appear to have merit.
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key words are "assuming
English sources of equal quality and relevance are available". Juan Manuel de Rosas, an Argentine governor of the XIX century, is not a topic of universal interest, but local interest. In topics of universal interest (such as astronomy, biology, medicine, chemistry, etc) it makes complete sense to give priority to English-language sources. Only Argentines are deeply interested in the details of the history of Rosas, so it is not surprising that the bulk of the historiographical work regarding Rosas comes from Argentina. Lynch points so in the prologue of his book: Rosas is all forgotten in the English-speaking world. His bibliography at the end of the book seem to confirm it: most authors mentioned are Argentine ones.
1081:, said: “article currently contains virtually no mention that many historians consider him a dictator, so some white-washing has been definitely been going on”. He also said: “User Lecen provided very strong sources showing that mainstream historians do consider him a dictator, so using the encyclopedia's voice seems warranted. The other editors (MarshalN20 and Cambalachero) claim that the "he is not a dictator" viewpoint is equally well represented by historians (and thus that the encyclopedia's voice should not be used per WP:ATTRIBUTEPOV) but when pressed for sources, they tend to obfuscate and stonewall (TLDR, etc)”.
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to show how
Cambalachero has been working all along. Proposing a mediation won't work. He won't accept it. He didn't accept it the first time, he won't do it now. He may even say that he will, only to drop out again. The Arbcom has to decide whether or not someone is allowed to ruin Knowledge's reputation. All I'm asking is to have the request accepted. Once that occurs, if the Arbcom decides that Fascist sources are acceptable to corrupt several articles across Knowledge, then it's fine. I won't bother anyone any longer. But the Arbcom cannot clean its own hands and ignore such a grave matter.
916:(1793-1877), for example, has become in the hands of Cambalachero a democratic and liberal leader. In this instance, the problem has been compounded with the creation and expansion by him of sub-articles to reinforce the appearance of legitimacy to a minority and politically motivated viewpoint. Biographical articles about the aforementioned fascist-linked historians have even been created that give the false impression that they are reliable authors with views that are respected and reflected by mainstream historians.
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are conduct issues. There has been a suggestion that Lecen is gaming the system to get what he wants, though when a user is raising a concern and not getting satisfaction, it is entirely appropriate to go to the next level. I note that
Cambalachero became inactive at the start of the mediation request, and became active again when the request was closed. That is an unfortunate coincidence, but it happens. As Cambalachero is active again now, perhaps another attempt at Formal mediation could be tried?
3449:, a report of deaths that took place during Rosas’ rule, written by a political enemy of Rosas. A lot of time ago, it was accepted as a legitimate source, and even republished and used as school textbook. Lecen says that, according to Lynch, there were 2,000 deaths and that I’m downplaying that by citing authors who say that the Blood Tables are not reliable. The link to the book is below (it breaks the "hidden" template if placed here). Go to page 117. Let me quote: "
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3356:. The huge block of text that Lecen has just posted surely goes way beyond the pair of points requested. So, I will halt the discussion here: if a member of the Arbcom requests me to answer to that huge text, I will do it. If they consider it to be too long, dispersed or focused in content rather than user misconduct, I will wait for Lecen to fix it, and then answer. By the way, I'm still waiting for an apology for calling me an Holocaust denier.
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reliable sources that state something like: ‘Contrary to what some historians say, Rosas was not a dictator because blah blah ..’? My ‘obfuscate and stonewall’ comment is accurate, because the prior 4 times I've asked that same question, I've received lengthy replies that did not respond to the question. Most recently, immediately above in
Cambalachero's reply (where he lists five sources that do not even mention the word ‘dictator’.”
3504:), the existence of such a consensus must have a specific source that says so clearly and directly, it can not be decided by assesment of Knowledge users. When requested and insisted for such a source, Lecen tried to derail the conversation. And here... once more, he tries to answer to that question cherry-picking quotes from books and proposing his personal assesment, evading to bring a source as those that policies require.
1162:). Hugh M. Hamill called it an "lready classic biography of Argentina's most significant caudillo." Daniel K. Lewis regarded it "n outstanding work on the dictator and his historical significance". Michael Goebel said that it is "a classic work about Rosas in English". Donald F. Stevens called it "he essential biography of Rosas by a distinguished historian". Ricardo Piglia regarded it an "excelent account" or Rosas' career.
3260:. In both cases I provided scans from the book to prove its acual content. Requires Spanish, but it’s there, visible, you don’t have to "trust" me. There are several other examples within Knowledge: note one right here, he blames me for the expansion of the article on Manuel Gálvez, when if you check the edits you will notice that my edits are minor and the actual writer of most of the article was
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1022:. Cambalachero dismissed the killings and according to him the people executed under Rosas' regime were petty criminals, mutinied soldiers, spies and traitors. According to Cambalachero, the allegations of executions of political enemies were originated from a fake list paid by the French firm and was no more than a fabricated excuse made by European powers "to justify a declaration of war".
3462:: that the report is biased and unreliable. Smith and Rosa do not say that there were no deaths, they say that they were not the 22,404 claimed by Indarte, and Lynch agrees. How many deaths were then? Nobody knows for sure: Lynch speculates a number, and the others prefer not to speculate. The same thing goes for most other things pointed by revisionists. The whole thing is detailed in
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disagree about the weight of particular viewpoints in reliable sources, it is not the role of the
Arbitration Committee to settle such good-faith content disputes among editors. However, editors may not assign to a viewpoint a weight that is either so high or so low as to be outside the bounds of reasonableness; such actions violate the neutral point of view policy.
3692:: Both editors need to work out this problem on their own. Lecen needs to accept that Knowledge is a group project (which, at times, will involve him working with people of different viewpoints to his). If Cambalachero does have nationalist intentions to whitewash Argentine history, the best way to overcome his position is by using better sources in the article. The
4060:: @Lecen. Could you please supply some examples of contentious claims referenced to Spanish sources available online ... ? Ideally, this would be as an English/Spanish parallel text. Once that's done, it would be good to get Cambalachero's comments. As a further thought, isn't the suggestion here that the sources have been cherry-picked rather than misrepresented?
3458:". As you see, Lecen is openly misquoting sources here. He mentions 2,000 deaths as a confirmed fact supported by Lynch and that those deaths are being denied by revisionists authors at the "blood tables" articles, but it happens that (according to Lynch himself) the blood tables listed 22,404 deaths, a difference of 20,000 deaths, and says
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sentence in the article you cite (‘There are divided opinions on the topic: Domingo
Faustino Sarmiento ... while José de San Martín ...’) presents the opinions of two of Rosas contemporaries (politicians from the 19th century). The proposed compromise is suggesting adding material based on the analysis of modern, objective historians.”
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Differentiation between sources that meet the standard (e.g. different academic viewpoints, all of which are peer reviewed) is a matter for consensus among editors. When there is disagreement or uncertainty about the reliability of particular sources, editors are encouraged to seek broader input, for example by turning to the
3109:). He created a huge report at the talk page, talking about details from all the myriad angles he could conceive (no single edit to link, but it’s still visible at the talk page), named "About the lack of neutrality, the biased view and arbitrary choice of facts added into this article". He said "done"
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article. My attempt was to serve as a mediator to both parties, but (along the way) drifted towards Cambalachero's position. I have continuously attempted to help both editors productively focus their work on the article, but (for the most part) they spend their time having tedious discussions on the
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The policy says "Because this is the English Knowledge, English-language sources are preferred over non-English ones, assuming English sources of equal quality and relevance are available". Lecen reads it as if that means that non-English sources have no space in Knowledge. Which is not the case. The
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The word "dictator" is not absent from the article: the "second government" section already points "There are divided opinions on the topic: Domingo Faustino Sarmiento compared Rosas with historical dictators, while José de San Martín considered that the situation in the country was so chaotic that a
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The other approach of revisionism was trying to promote Rosas as a national hero. That is not a topic of historiography, but a topic of culture, it uses history but it is not history in itself. Rosas is currently considered a national hero of Argentina, and have most of the homages usually associated
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It is impossible to quantify the terror under Rosas. Contemporaries attempted to do so, but the results were flawed by bias and error. The so-called tables of blood compiled by the journalist Rivera Indarte listed 5,884 victims of terror and 16,520 killed in military action. These opposition" figures
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As for the idea itself of revisionism, there are two aspects to it: the academic and the cultural. Don’t mix them. The academic aspect was: the historiography of Rosas written so far was not reliable because of ignoring important primary sources, and using others without taking the biases of the time
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Thirty and one years later, in 1961, Rosas’ image had not improved at all, according to the same The Hispanic American Historical Review: “Rosas is a negative memory in Argentina. He left behind him the black legend of Argentine history-a legend which Argentines in general wish to forget. There is no
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Insistence on presenting an unrepresentative view is counterproductive and harms the credibility of such articles. We are not talking about a Wikipedian who has been arguing an alternative point of view backed by legitimate authors, but rather about PoV being zealously promoted and maintained through
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Content disagreements are not addressed by this Committee; user misconduct, which may include disruptive editing and misrepresentation of sources, is addressed, when other dispute methods have failed. We could use some input here from previously uninvolved editors with subject-matter expertise as to
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As for Lecen’s featured articles, it was already pointed that having a number of featured articles does not give a special status of an editor over another. I do not have that many featured articles because I edit articles on a broader scope: history, politics, geography, television, etc. As you can
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As for the slaves, I don’t really understand which is the problem. Lecen pointed that Rosas owned slaves when he was a rancher, I accepted the point and added it to the article myself (see below the template). I told at the talk page that I added that mention, and the discussion ended. So what is he
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use only English-speaking sources or Argentine sources wich are not revisionist (except for minimal things such as quotations). All the claims contained in those articles can be checked in such sources. And I told several times in the discussion that I had no problem in working with all sources (for
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that neither of us was willing to "give up on each other's view". That's not my case, I would have no problem in working with him as adults and rational people (but if he thinks that I would be "butchering" his work, it's his problem, not mine), but the message actually points his own motivation: he
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and find out that the U.S. South fought for freedom and slaves were happy to be slaves. Or that Hitler was a democrat and that no Jews were killed. What Cambalachero is doing it not presenting an alternative point of view. He is pushing an agenda. If the Arbitration request is accepted, I'll be able
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in terms of evidence on the case pages once opened, so that what you have said can be fully discussed. But (depending on the length of what you eventually end up saying) you will need to either reduce what you have said, or ask for an extension to the evidence limits. To all: please don't add large
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article since 2009, and there is disagreement over the content, and the two parties have been discussing the matter. Sometimes it can be difficult to reach a solution; however, it is not ArbCom's place to make a decision on content. ArbCom looks into conduct disputes, and I'm not seeing where there
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is a different story. Lecen blatantly manipulated the first move request (that got the article's name changed to "Paraguayan War") with false Google Books results. I noted the error on the talk page, then moved it back to "War of the Triple Alliance". When the move was challenged, I made a request.
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is itself a tool of historiographic studies, part of its scientific method, which can be misused or used correctly (in the neonazi case, misused, if even used at all and not taken as an excuse). Each case must be considered separately. And another thing: check the dates. Lecen began this discussion
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As the case was accepted, I will reply to the things Lecen has been saying. It will get a bit too long, but don’t say I didn’t warn you. As it has not been selected which of all the points raised by Lecen will be mediated, I will answer all. It may be helpful if the administrators propose to narrow
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Writing in 1930, The Hispanic American Historical Review said: “Among the enigmatical personages of the ‘Age of Dictators’ in South America none played a more espetacular role than the Argentine dictator, Juan Manuel de Rosas, whose gigantic and ominous figure bestrode the Plata River for more than
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All that Cambalachero could say was that we were “running in circles here”, to which Noleander replied: “No, we are not running in circles. (1) Despite being asked five times, you still have not provided any sources that rebut the numerous modern historians that claim Rosas was a dictator; (2) The
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Rosas owned slaves and he "was severe in his treatment of slaves, and he favored the lash to keep them obedient and preserve social order." And more: "Yet in the final analysis the demagogy of Rosas among the blacks and mulattoes did nothing to alter their position in the society around them." But
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given recent developments and comments. Aspects of this dispute may still turn out to be too content-based for us to resolve (based not only on the scope of the Committee's "remit" but equally importantly on our lack of subject-matter expertise), but our decisions establish that there does come a
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indefinitely from all articles, discussions, and other content related to (A) the political, economic, and military history of Latin America prior to December 1983 and (B) any other aspect of the history of Latin America that is directly related to geopolitical, economic, or military events that
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Reviewed and reaffirm decline. Until the claims of deliberate fringe pushing are 1) affirmed by an examination of the claims by the community, and 2) the community then finds they are unable to make a decision as to what to do, this is not an ArbCom case. Too many cases are coming to ArbCom that
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Cambalachero has been systematically distorting historical facts in several articles by using as sources Argentine Fascist historians (the so-called in Argentina "Nationalists/Revisionists"), to skew articles toward that viewpoint. The result has been whitewashed takes on the subjects of several
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any actual discussion or article editing took place, began threads on article content only as an excuse to request mediation and left them at the second or third reply, focusing on the "get Cambalachero out of here" focus, and moving to other venues each time he could not get consensus for his
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describes Pacho O’Donnell as fascist or nazi? Or, in the other direction, Adolfo Saldías wrote the "History of the Argentine Confederation" in 1881. Will we call him a fascist too... a fascist from 3 decades before fascism itself existed? To make it clear and to the point: I have no problem in
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Cambalachero gave a lengthy reply. Noleander said in return: “I asked you to provide your 3 or 4 best sources that asserted that Rosas was not a dictator, and you did not provide a single one.” When met with silence Noleander asked: “Once again, for the fifth time, I ask: Can you provide a few
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As for the move requests, I have all South American wikiprojects in my watchlist, and check for any automated report about things going on with some article, and say something when I can help. This rationale that "he has never edited the article" seems completely novel, move requests are made
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What was the Argentine Nationalism’s main goal? It was to establish a national dictatorship: "In Rosas and his system, the Nationalists discovered the kind of state and society they wished to restore. Rosas had ruled as a military dictator..." Rosas and his regime served as models of what the
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at this stage, per the comments below. Particularly at this stage, an arbitration case is not the best way to resolve this dispute. I generally agree with the comments below, and I also still think this issue could benefit from the participation of some additional, knowledgeable editors with
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as Cristiano points, neither did Lecen. He had edited Jon VI only 2 times before the move request (january 2011) and only 18 times the Revolution one (but, in a closer look, most of those 18 entries are just vandalism revert, move logs and trivial corrections, he hardly added any substantive
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Cristiano's awfully long analysis seeks to invent a "problematic behavior" that does not exist. These different events took place over months, during which all users spent time doing different things. That we meet every now and then in South American history articles (more specifically,
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However, what Cristiano fails to note is that none of these "discussions" take place when each of the editors are involved in their respective regions (Lecen working on solely Brazilian matters, Cambalachero working on Argentina, and me working on western Andean articles or the
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I brought to Cambalachero’s attention the existence of the aforementioned biography, but he never took it seriously. He said that the “historiography of Rosas is a topic in itself, with books about that specific topic, and none of them considered Lynch even worth a single
4089:. Having looking through the additional material, this is primarily a content dispute though a very convoluted one. Any remedial action - say interaction restrictions or topic bans should they prove necessary - can easily be handled by one of the usual noticeboards.
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ensues. Lecen tried to derail the discussion, but I insisted time and again that he pointed sources with the alleged consensus he claims. He never did, and dropped from the discussion, until today, until I pointed some flaws of an article he nominated for FAC.
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As for the other editors that joined the arbitration, The ed17 and MarshalN20 have mentioned their previous involvement in it. Astynax forgot to do so: he is a supporter of Lecen in this discussion, and even helped him to draft the report that Lecen gave. See
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He also removed any mention of the Platine War from other articles (removed: "Rosas also declared war on Brazil in late 1851, starting the Platine War, which led to the defeat of the Argentine Confederation by coalition of Entre Ríos, Corrientes, Brazil and
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the use of dubious (sometimes spurious) sources that often promote a political agenda. This is serious: it's the reliability of Knowledge at stake. I ask the Arbitration Committee to do something to resolve this serious matter. If possible, with topic ban.
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Reply to SilkTork: We are not talking in here about two legitimate points of views (even if opposing point of views). We are talking in here about a user who has written several articles based on Fascists authors. It would be the same as if we look at
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First things first: I’m aware that, in English casual speaking, "revisionism" is usually associated to the denial of the Holocaust in nazi Germany. Lecen’s constant mentions of nazism may reinforce the idea. But no, that’s a misunderstanding.
1121:(1941-). All of them are Argentine Nationalists/Revisionists. And four out of five are dead for over 35 years. The only one who is alive (O’Donnell) is not a historian, but a doctor of psychiatry and psychoanalysis, a writer and a playwright.
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that, according to policies and guidelines, the existence of such a consensus must have a specific source that says so clearly and directly, it can not be decided by assesment of Knowledge users. If there is no such academic consensus then
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to work on a talk page draft and and move it to article space when we were all satisfied: Lecen never made any comment. He dropped the whole discussion, almost a month ago, and restarted it when I made a comment at a FAC of another article
3744:. Lecen did not approve of my proposal, and Cambalachero also did not support it beyond a statement explaining how the new name could help resolve the naming issue. Most oppose votes came from mostly random (some not) Brazilian editors.
3454:". The 2,000 deaths that Lecen cites are in the following page: they do not come from a specific primary source that Lynch trusts, but from a speculation: an educated speculation, but a speculation nonetheless. Lynch even points that "
934:(Nationalism) was a far-right wing political movement that appeared in Argentina in the 1920s and reached its apex in the 1930s. it was the Argentine national equivalent to Nazism (in Germany), Fascism (in Italy and in Spain) and
3430:, I don’t even have his books anyway). But on a case-by-case basis, and with specific discussion. A rationale "everyone who did not say that Rosas was a monster is a nazi/fascist/nationalist/neonazi" is completely out of place.
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indefinitely from all articles, discussions, and other content related to the history of Latin America, broadly construed across all namespaces. This topic ban may be appealed to the Arbitration Committee after one year.
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Mediation needs to be tried (again) before arbitration. It would help if others as well as Lecen and Cambalachero helped to assess what is going on here, to make this less adversarial than it seems to be at the moment.
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reporting? As I said in my answer, those were 2 different stages of Rosas’ life. If he wanted more clarifications, he should have continued the discussion and say why didn’t he find my addition good enough.
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and without input from any other editor (especially an editor who holds a distinct point of view from his). For example, after Cambalachero edited parts of the article that Lecen had previously edited (see
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because of being taken by communists. If they have a sound point, it is accepted regardless of other contexts. Let’s put an specific example: Lecen mentioned the
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into account. Did they do that with a political agenda? It does not matter, not for the scientific approach, same as we did not reject the first photo of the
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Lecen: best to keep it as brief as you can but it would be good to see some actual examples (say, four or five) to help us all in deciding what to do.
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twenty years. So despotic was his power that Argentine writers have themselves styled this age of their history as ‘The Tyranny of Rosas’.”
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ask the enforcing administrator to reconsider their original decision;
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In fact, it is Lecen that continues to have behavior problems, mainly
3642:: I participated in the dispute between Cambalachero and Lecen in the
2337:. University Park, Pennsylvania: Pennsylvania State University Press.
1267:)"; "Throughout the Rosas years... the government made liberal use of
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This area is used for notes by the clerks (including clerk recusals).
3680:); I disagreed with Lecen, restored the article and improved it (see
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5017:. If the editor is blocked, the appeal may be made by email through
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As you can see, we have barely began to talk, and Lecen has already
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I die with my country: perspectives on the Paraguayan War, 1864–1870
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Juan Manuel de Rosas. Rosas ruled Buenos Aires from 1829 to 1852..."
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authority, investing him with the 'plenitude of the public power' (
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All of Cristiano's statement is a well-crafted lie. Here is why:
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said that he will not give up his point of view. In other words,
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4708:) has engaged in tendentious editing and battleground conduct (
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Thanks. I think so renaming this case request is for the best.
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Knowledge:Requests for mediation/Argentine history on Knowledge
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procedure for the standard appeals and modifications provision
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To the bitter end: Paraguay and the War of the Triple Alliance
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1513:"Rosas was re-elected as Governor on 13 April, this time with
435:
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changes both he and Cambalchero had done on the article (see
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banning nazi authors with a confirmed nazi ideology (such as
2479:
World Literature in Spanish: An Encyclopedia: An Encyclopedia
1289:"It was no ordinary election, for the new governor was given
2027:
1364:"...drew in Juan Manuel de Rosas, dictator of Buenos Aires."
1117:(unknown birth and death, books published in the 1950s) and
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Neutral point of view and role of the Arbitration Committee
3006:. Vol. 1. Lincoln, Nebraska: University of Nebraska Press.
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Based on a True Story: Latin American History at the Movies
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Argentina, 1516-1987: From Spanish Colonization to Alfonsín
2499:. Albuquerque, New Mexico: University of New Mexico Press.
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2015:
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How has Rosas been seen in the past 25 years by historians?
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adopted 3 May 2014, this provision did not require a vote.
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adopted 3 May 2014, this provision did not require a vote.
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Passed 5 to 3, with 1 abstention 04:13, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
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Passed 5 to 3, with 1 abstention 04:11, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
3683:), and then Lecen again decided to remove everything (see
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2003:
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Knowledge:Identifying reliable sources#Academic consensus
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Juan Manuel de Rosas#Criticism and historical perspective
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Juan Manuel de Rosas#Criticism and historical perspective
2898:. Minneapolis, Minnesota: University of Minnesota Press.
2607:. Lanham, Maryland: Rowman & Littlefield Publishers.
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regime. Backed by the army and his own police force (the
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Motion: MarshalN20 topic ban suspension (September 2015)
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MarshalN20: tendentious editing and battleground conduct
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attacks on Cambalachero and the sources of Cambalachero.
2880:. Berkeley, California: University of California Press.
1859:
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What was the Argentine Nationalism/Revisionism movement?
2754:. Jefferson, North Carolina: Macfarland & Company.
2533:
An Argentine Passion: María Luisa Bemberg and Her Films
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3686:). This "incident" went on for a couple of more edits.
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Americanos: Latin America's Struggle for Independence
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1403:"The first, written by Rosas himself, shows an angry
854:
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4927:) is reminded to conduct himself in accordance with
4674:) whose reliability they themselves have disavowed (
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process needs to take effect prior to anything else.
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Juan Manuel de Rosas' attempt to conquer Uruguay..."
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5336:, each other anywhere on Knowledge (subject to the
5271:, each other anywhere on Knowledge (subject to the
3498:
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2916:. Estover Road, Plymoth: Rowman & Littlefield.
2772:. Stanford, California: Stanford University Press.
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to debunke the allegations of political executions.
5365:Amendment request: Argentine History February 2015
2531:King, John; Whitaker, Sheila; Bosch, Rosa (2000).
2445:. Norman, Oklahoma: University of Oklahoma Press.
2387:Clayton, Lawrence A.; Conniff, Michael L. (2005).
1883:
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5373:is permitted to edit all content on the articles
3769:came up on my watchlist for WP Military History (
3556:User talk:Astynax/Archive 11#Juan Manuel de Rosas
2790:. Durham, North Carolina: Duke University Press.
2718:. Guilford, Connecticut: The Globe Pequot Press.
2530:
1901:
1328:"The United States did take sides in Argentinian
5413:, together with a rationale supported by diffs.
4959:procedure for the standard enforcement provision
2713:
2076:
1477:"...the era of the nineteenth century Argentine
1449:"...costly intervention in Uruguay by Argentine
1407:using force and terror to impose his authority."
1386:and propaganda checked all signs of resistance."
641:Once the case is closed, editors may add to the
2896:Captive Women: Oblivion and Memory in Argentina
2862:. Los Angeles: University of California Press.
1209:How was Juan Manuel de Rosas seen in Argentina?
1175:the opinions given as “mere political analysis”
4372:Following further statements, am switching to
3980:which side of the line this dispute falls on.
3515:strong authority was needed to create order".
2934:. Los Angeles: University of Californa Press.
2842:Politics and Education in Argentina: 1946-1962
2386:
2050:sfn error: no target: CITEREFLaRosaMejía2006 (
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1349:"In Buenos Aires, Rosas demanded and received
3409:Misuse of the term "fascist" and similar ones
2569:An Atlas and Survey of Latin American History
2567:LaRosa, Michael J.; Mejia, German R. (2007).
1014:Did Cambalachero attempt to white-wash Rosas?
465:
5081:(ii) a passing motion of arbitrators at ARCA
3800:), even while working on Brazilian articles.
3399:Argentine nationalism vs. German nationalism
3004:The Paraguayan War: Causes and early conduct
2661:. Vol. 3. Boston, Massachusetts: Wadsworth.
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1460:of Buenos Aires province from 1829 to 1852."
1446:, Rosas made himself master of the country."
1342:"This group was headed by Rosas, who became
1025:Cambalachero also created an article called
3304:Repatriation of Juan Manuel de Rosas's body
3281:Talk:Juan Manuel de Rosas#Arbitrary break 2
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2459:Herb, Guntram H.; Kaplan, David H. (2008).
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1510:), Rosas managed to hold power until 1852."
5432:Remedy 2 (MarshalN20 topic banned) of the
3258:File:El maldito de la historia oficial.jpg
2641:Argentina: A Primary Source Cultural Guide
2625:. Westport, Connecticut: Greenwood Press.
2477:Ihrie, Maureen; Oropesa, Salvador (2011).
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655:Knowledge:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement
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5348:, and then to the Arbitration Committee.
5283:, and then to the Arbitration Committee.
5137:Not withstanding the sanction imposed on
4866:Passed 10 to 0, 04:13, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
4798:Passed 10 to 0, 04:13, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
4720:Passed 10 to 0, 04:11, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
4684:Passed 10 to 0, 04:11, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
4640:Passed 10 to 0, 04:11, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
4616:Passed 10 to 0, 04:08, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
4601:Passed 10 to 0, 04:08, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
4585:Passed 10 to 0, 04:08, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
4569:Passed 10 to 0, 04:08, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
4549:Passed 10 to 0, 04:08, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
4529:Passed 10 to 0, 04:08, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
4510:Passed 10 to 0, 04:08, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
4466:Passed 10 to 0, 04:08, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
4314:NW's point is well taken. I can go with
3602:Featured articles do not give priviledges
2988:. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press.
2808:. Lincoln, Nebraska: Writers Club Press.
2682:(2 ed.). Wilmington, Delaware: SR Books.
2427:. Liverpool: Liverpool University Press.
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2319:. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press.
2117:sfn error: no target: CITEREFJaques2007 (
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1435:, Juan Manuel de Rosas, had a natural..."
1396:"...In the city he demanded and received
848:Knowledge:Dispute resolution noticeboard
5196:Notwithstanding the sanction imposed on
3476:Argentine Caudillo: Juan Manuel de Rosas
3232:. For the following section, I proposed
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2680:Argentine Caudillo: Juan Manuel de Rosas
2643:. New York: The Rosen Publishing Group.
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2549:Kraay, Hendrik; Whigham, Thomas (2004).
2373:. Chicago: Fitzroy Dearborn Publishers.
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1748:sfn error: no target: CITEREFLewis2001 (
5019:Special:EmailUser/Arbitration Committee
4305:per same lines as SilkTork and Risker.
3974:Vote key: (Accept/decline/recuse/other)
3647:article's talk page (more similar to a
3597:Lecen's edits to the Farroupilha Revolt
3125:and jumped to Dispute Resolution again
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2700:. Santa Barbara, California: ABC-CLIO.
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2639:Link, Theodore; McCarthy, Rose (2004).
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2481:. Santa Barbara, California: ABC-CLIO.
2463:. Santa Barbara, California: ABC-CLIO.
2443:Caudillos: Dictators in Spanish America
2409:. Santa Barbara, California: ABC-CLIO.
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5098:functionary blocks of whatever nature.
4332:Risker's thoughts match mine exactly.
3481:Acceptance of Rosas as a national hero
3464:Historiography of Juan Manuel de Rosas
3386:the discussion into specific topics.
3300:Historiography of Juan Manuel de Rosas
3216:. This led to full article protection
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4256:based on more recent developments.
3825:As I wrote in NY Brad's talk space (
3659:Why this case should not be accepted
3593:Lecen's edits to John VI of Portugal
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2659:Societies, Networks, and Transitions
2407:Argentina: A Global Studies Handbook
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5267:) are indefinitely prohibited from
5004:arbitration enforcement noticeboard
4442:All tallies are based the votes at
2553:. Dexter, Michigan: Thomson-Shore.
1531:"...temporarily eclipsed by Rosas'
1495:Juan Manuel de Rosas and became..."
907:Summary of the problem as I see it:
880:for my statement with evidences. --
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5334:interacting with, or commenting on
5269:interacting with, or commenting on
5235:Cambalachero-Lecen interaction ban
5013:submit a request for amendment at
2970:. Wilmington, Delaware: SR Books.
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5478:
4929:Knowledge's behavioral guidelines
4667:), including by citing a source (
2716:Argentina: The Bradt Travel Guide
2389:A History of Modern Latin America
2294:Bao, Sandra; Mutić, Anja (2008).
1474:of Juan Manuel de Rosas in 1829."
1286:and violence to impose his will."
978:Changed "Dictator" to "Governor".
5450:at 01:49, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
5300:MarshalN20-Lecen interaction ban
5133:Topic ban exemption: August 2013
5071:For a request to succeed, either
5025:
4897:at 01:51, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
4888:on 00:20, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
4808:at 15:37, 4 February 2015 (UTC).
2912:Saeger, James Schofield (2007).
2589:. New York: Palgrave Macmillan.
1378:, political allies..." and "The
568:on 01:49, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
535:on 00:20, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
152:
5422:at 15:35, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
5038:Modifications by administrators
2351:Chasteen, John Charles (2008).
1902:King, Whitaker & Bosch 2000
1470:"...until the beginning of the
557:on 15:31, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
5399:Cristina Fernández de Kirchner
5359:at 00:50, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
5294:at 00:50, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
5192:Topic ban exemption: July 2014
5186:at 06:05, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
3332:calling me an Holocaust denier
2752:Latin American Popular Culture
2333:Centeno, Miguel Angel (2002).
1463:"...thanks to the policies of
1374:"During Juan Manuel de Rosas'
1278:"...Juan Manuel de Rosas, the
1178:and accused it of “plagiarism”
1050:The author given as source is
522:on 00:50, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
509:on 06:05, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
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4990:Appeals by sanctioned editors
4877:, 06:05, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
2824:Christianity in Latin America
2517:. Nottingham: Foundry Books.
488:on 21:57, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
5229:at 11:49, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
4976:0) Appeals and modifications
4562:reliable sources noticeboard
3113:and requested third opinion
2768:Needell, Jeffrey D. (2006).
2317:Argentina since independence
2077:McCloskey & Burford 2006
1573:References and Bibliography:
546:on 11:49, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
496:on 04:15, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
376:Conflict of interest reports
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5411:Argentine history case page
5102:discussed at another venue.
5008:administrators’ noticeboard
4947:Enforcement of restrictions
4477:Unseemly conduct, such as
4432:Temporary injunction (none)
3919:... which I basically just
3673:), Lecen decided to revert
3618:Edit count for Cambalachero
3456:these were not mass murders
3002:Whigham, Thomas L. (2002).
2966:Stevens, Donald F. (1997).
2952:. Lane, London: Routledge.
2948:Sondhaus, Lawrence (2001).
2822:Prien, Hans-Jürgen (2013).
2750:Natella, Arthur A. (2008).
1367:"...the federale Argentine
1325:of Juan Manuel de Rosas..."
649:, any general questions at
205:Search archived proceedings
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4007:subject-matter expertise.
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3911:05:11, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
3901:It could easily be called
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2932:The Invention of Argentina
2844:. New York: M. E. Sharpe.
2840:Rein, Mónica Esti (1998).
2657:Lockard, Craig A. (2011).
2495:Johnson, Lyman L. (2004).
2034:Clayton & Conniff 2005
1199:16:49, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
890:18:09, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
574:Watchlist all case pages:
250:Arbitrator motion requests
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4967:Appeals and modifications
4770:Cambalachero topic banned
4646:Cambalachero: POV-pushing
4276:per SilkTork and Risker.
3054:Statement by Cambalachero
2732:Meade, Teresa A. (2010).
2585:Lewis, Daniel K. (2003).
2571:. New York: M.E. Sharpe.
2513:Hooker, Terry D. (2008).
2405:Edwards, Todd L. (2008).
2371:Encyclopedia of the Essay
2369:Chevalier, Tracy (1997).
1172:full of “contradictions”,
827:Talk:Juan Manuel de Rosas
4487:assumptions of bad faith
3665:the article and edit it
3587:content). Links below.
2950:Naval Warfare, 1815-1914
2930:Shumay, Nicolas (1993).
2786:Piglia, Ricardo (1994).
2736:. Blackwell Publishing.
2621:Leuchars, Chris (2002).
2587:The History of Argentina
2441:Hamill, Hugh M. (1992).
2423:Goebel, Michael (2011).
2298:(5 ed.). Lonely Planet.
2296:Buenos Aires: city guide
2271:Ihrie & Oropesa 2011
2022:Kraay & Whigham 2004
2010:Link & McCarthy 2004
1542:Juan Manuel de Rosas..."
1538:"Some of these, such as
1481:Juan Manuel de Rosas..."
1453:Juan Manuel de Rosas..."
1424:"Juan Manuel de Rosas's
1371:Juan Manuel de Rosas..."
1355:la suma de poder público
1293:powers..."; "Rosas used
1148:Knowledge: Verifiability
5438:arbitration enforcement
5346:arbitration enforcement
5281:arbitration enforcement
5113:In accordance with the
5092:
4957:In accordance with the
4813:MarshalN20 topic banned
4499:disruptive point-making
3776:on it is not an oppose.
3631:Comment from MarshalN20
3085:will be controversial.
2984:Tilly, Charles (2007).
2894:Rotker, Susana (2002).
2603:Lewis, Paul H. (2006).
2046:LaRosa & Mejía 2006
1417:"Juan Manuel de Rosas,
1314:"...but never with the
1156:Encyclopædia Britannica
609:redirects to this page.
5002:request review at the
3584:Farroupilha Revolution
3492:Modern academic vision
3460:exactly the same thing
3392:Historical revisionism
3274:battleground mentality
2804:Posturee, Bad (2002).
2788:Artificial Respiration
2696:Marley, David (1998).
2163:Herb & Kaplan 2008
1549:Juan Manuel de Rosas."
1309:terrorist dictatorship
1304:Juan Manuel de Rosas."
1265:suma del poder público
867:Preliminary statements
3612:outlandish request.
1077:, who volunteered as
446:Track related changes
306:Arbitration Committee
146:Knowledge Arbitration
18:Knowledge:Arbitration
5387:Adolfo Rodríguez Saá
4633:Juan Manuel de Rosas
4456:Purpose of Knowledge
4126:Juan Manuel de Rosas
3867:Preliminary decision
3765:The FAC request for
3752:The number of votes
3644:Juan Manuel de Rosas
3621:Edit count for Lecen
3443:far side of the Moon
3328:played the Nazi card
3248:at least two times,
3105:(immediately closed
2876:Rock, David (1995).
2858:Rock, David (1987).
2199:Bao & Mutić 2008
1491:"...of 19th-century
1431:"Argentina's gaucho
972:Juan Manuel de Rosas
914:Juan Manuel de Rosas
829:(for a general view)
821:Requests for comment
255:Enforcement requests
183:Guide to arbitration
115:Drafting arbitrators
5338:ordinary exceptions
5273:ordinary exceptions
4607:Tendentious editing
3580:John VI of Portugal
3538:Language of sources
3510:The word "dictator"
3436:Academic acceptance
3415:association fallacy
3378:Additional comments
3293:Note about sources:
3244:I have spotted him
1602:, pp. 104–105, 119.
1428:saw land grants..."
899:Additional comments
5418:Passed 13 to 0 by
5383:Fernando de la Rúa
4535:Consensus building
4522:appropriate forums
4516:Casting aspersions
4444:/Proposed decision
4376:for this request.
3534:I added the info.
3030:American Civil War
2515:The Paraguayan War
1515:dictatorial powers
1442:organization, the
1300:"...the Argentine
872:Statement by Lecen
862:(failed mediation)
856:(failed mediation)
636:/Proposed decision
277:Contentious topics
175:Arbitration policy
5446:Passed 8 to 0 by
5434:Argentine History
5213:Argentine History
5154:Argentine History
5108:
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5006:("AE") or at the
4505:, is prohibited.
4503:gaming the system
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3903:Argentine History
3738:Battle of Caseros
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2760:978-0-7864-3511-1
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1849:
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1837:
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1775:Stevens 1998
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1533:dictatorship
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1027:Blood tables
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944:misogynistic
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932:Nacionalismo
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5465:, not here.
5010:("AN"); and
4942:Enforcement
4882:Amended by
4871:Amended by
4804:Amended by
4041:Newyorkbrad
4023:Newyorkbrad
4009:Newyorkbrad
3982:Newyorkbrad
3872:Clerk notes
3790:Falklands).
3734:Platine War
3199:tag bombing
2676:Lynch, John
2247:Goebel 2011
2223:Hooker 2008
2113:Jaques 2007
2101:Saeger 2007
1926:Rotker 2002
1878:Marley 1998
1830:Shumay 1993
1818:Shumay 1993
1794:Piglia 1994
1763:Goebel 2011
1732:Hamill 1992
1504:dictatorial
1398:dictatorial
1351:dictatorial
1291:dictatorial
1261:dictatorial
968:Platine War
936:Integralism
876:Please see
494:Case Closed
486:Case Opened
210:Ban appeals
188:Noticeboard
5306:MarshalN20
5198:MarshalN20
5139:MarshalN20
5128:MarshalN20
5123:Amendments
4985:Committee.
4843:MarshalN20
4820:MarshalN20
4696:MarshalN20
4575:Talk pages
4495:harassment
4483:incivility
4451:Principles
4397:Carcharoth
4378:Carcharoth
4360:Carcharoth
4320:Courcelles
4307:Courcelles
3887:Guerillero
3853:MarshalN20
3832:MarshalN20
3807:MarshalN20
3803:Regards.--
3704:MarshalN20
3700:Regards.--
3653:ad hominem
3640:Background
3224:. He said
2283:Prien 2013
2235:Meade 2010
2144:Hodge 2008
2132:Tilly 2007
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