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talk only the 'notability rules' and that is the reason I posted other factors related to the article too. I am still not sure the place to discuss those points. Only on the article discussion page and not on an AFD page? Coming back to the lengthy posts, yes, I did a fairly good research on the matter. That was done for few months actually. I know people may consider this as something negative but I do not think so. I think the efforts people put to create or maintain an article get equal importance to the efforts put to investigate, research and finding facts which are against the article too. I believe that then only we will have quality articles in Knowledge. If we keep on adding new articles entirely based on 'Notability Rules' and nothing else, and completely ignore the research and facts against them, I do not think that will be a good practice. But again, that is just my opinion and I know it may be an inappropriate place to discuss it here.
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clear on the last three AFD discussions too, as the 'Keep' decision was not explained well in those three. You very clearly mentioned it in this case and thanks for that. I fear the conclusion you reached after the AFD discussion was not completely correct, based on the same reason above. The debate didn't reflect the 'notable vs not notable', rather it was based on other factors. Personally I feel this is one of the biggest flaw of the system, but then that is strictly my personal view. We all know how easy to get published in the local newspaper and how these small reports help us to get us more publicity in not just printed media but other media too, especially when the media people are not experts on fields as in this case. And just based on the 'Notability Rules', all those can get a Knowledge entry is something beyond my thinking of the system. But then, that is just me.
568:. They enable other editors to understand the reasoning behind your edits, and make it less likely that your work will be casually reverted. (Not coincidentally, they also would have made my job a lot easier in reviewing this situation!) You also need to accept that unsourced or poorly-sourced material can and probably will be challenged, and act less defensively when it is. I appreciate that you're trying to make the encyclopedia better, but you need to make more constructive arguments for the retention of your material, rather than simply claiming to be in the right. It might also be wise, if such issues arise in the future, to start a discussion on the article's talkpage, rather than the other user's; that way more editors can get involved and the conversation is slightly more transparent. 3550:
my current sporadic internet access I can't easily commit to the lengthy, major edits that are needed (I'm spending most of my time at the moment dealing with admin backlogs). That said, if you want a neutral perspective, I'd say (I'm afraid) that there still seems to be a bit of work needed to balance the article - at present, there appears to be a definite slant towards the anti-government position, with sections like the "State sponsorship" (even the header there is POV, implying that the government financially backed the rioters) having substantial allegations balanced only by a couple of lines pointing out that Modi claimed innocence and was exonerated. Having looked at some of the earlier versions, though, you have made
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Corporation's website where it is made perfectly clear that: "The text of this website is available for modification and reuse under the terms of the Creative Commons Attribution-Sharealike 3.0 Unported License and the GNU Free Documentation License (unversioned, with no invariant sections, front-cover texts, or back-cover texts)". TREDIC Corporation is not undetakng illicit marketing of a person or business, it is an establised international real estate development & investment busienss with 5 international offices. We strongly suggest you undertake further research and rescind your blocking of our entry, with immediate effect and issue a full apology.
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count as the number of votes can go in any direction. But my thinking was, facts, proofs and other supporting materials get importance as well. I was wrong. As I mentioned in the discussion, anyone with a few local newspaper articles about them get a Knowledge entry and the article will remain there forever. As we all agree, this seems to be a flaw in the system, at the same time I understand that Knowledge has limitations as well. I wish there would be some 'trusted members' locally to verify the claims, facts and supporting documents. But then, that will be a major policy change.
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through to the end. I can certainly say I've seen some admins close some heavily contested AfD's not out of argument merits but simply out of !Votes regardless. Yunshui best described my overall argument over the course of the 4 AfD nominations -- in that this one particular article does not necessarily add a lot of value individually, but rather the policies that allow this article to be included are the same policies that make Knowledge one of the most powerful resources. It is in that reason I argue to protect articles like this and not so much the indiscriminate subject matter.
2164:, however Musicfreak7676 has been reverting all my edits to when it showed that Hope and Liam were married. Can you explain to me how Hope is considered married to Liam? They married in Italy I understand that, but once they came over to America the marriage was invalid because the wedding papers were not signed. Hope ripped up the wedding papers and did not sign the papers, therefore Hope and Liam are not married. Regardless of European Law, if they are not recognized as a married couple in the state of California, how can they be considered married on this website? 940:. After a few days to check it doesn't make anything explode or die, we'll be sticking up a big notice and sending out an additional newsletter inviting people to test it out and give us feedback :). This will be followed by two office hours sessions - one on Tuesday the 14th of August at 19:00 UTC for all us Europeans, and one on Wednesday the 15th at 23:00 UTC for the East Coasters out there :). As always, these will be held in #wikimedia-office; drop me a note if you want to know how to easily get on IRC, or if you aren't able to attend but would like the logs. 3088:. I added about 25K words of prose (phew...). I'm not one of the better ones when it comes at copy-editing perhaps if you can lend about 5 or 10 minutes for the article and improve where possible. I don't know that if you are still interested in content work or not but I just need your help buddy here. Since you'd worked with the article about my city, I was hoping that you might also be interested in what had happened in my city 10 years ago (I live close to the spot where the massacre had taken place). Cheers mate! 2599: 31: 2698:. I agree with you, it's unfortunate that articles on topics like this generally end up deleted. Sadly our notability requirements, in their current form, tend to allow more weight to be given to popular culture phenomena and far less to minor historical figures and incidents. (It's even more difficult when you start looking at historical information from other cultures (Japan, in my case); if sources aren't available online and in English you're pretty much out of luck.) 1372: 2495: 420:
airdate. Do you have any sources that give you info like I do? Do you even read the magazine CBS Soaps in Depth? It says right in there on page 13, that Davidson's last air date as Ashley is Friday August 3. Not to mention, the countless number of previews that have also mentioned that August 3 is the last day Davidson is on Y&R. So please do not discredit me when my information is absolutely correct. Colton hockey11 (talk) 16:46, 1 August 2012 (UTC)"
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exceptional skill to be get an entry in Knowledge or any similar platform. I have nothing personal against the girl or the people who are actually behind her, but I have proof (which I already explained in the discussion) for every statement I make. I still believe we need to discuss it further and yes, beyond the 'Notability Rules' limit, and I promise this is for making Knowledge a better place and not for any personal attack or wasting people's time.
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not air until tomorrow afternoon in the U.S.A., and just to clarify, I would like to be shown where it says this cannot be updated until aired in the U.S.A. Once again, as soon as I updated Nikki's page to reflect the marriage to Jack, who do you think was right up my rear to undo it less than one minute after the fact.
2794:, this looks like a bad call on my part. I've restored the deleted article, and removed the copyvio segment (the licence quoted by Offender9000 above is not compatible with Knowledge's CC-BY-SA licensing (the last sentence specifically prohibits derivation), so we cannot use the text). Sorry for the inconvenience. 3904:. The article exists (among over four million others), it's sourced, it has been deemed worthy of inclusion. Further attempts to delete it could and probably would be seen as disruptive, and there are a vast number of articles out there that could use your talent for research. However, if you're determined... 3948:
Thank you. No, I am not going further on this. And no more deletion review too. You explained it very well, much appreciated. And the link you sent (do nothing) make sense. As long as we rely on the 'Notability Rules' to a great extend, there is no use in further discussion on this. I will sure spend
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Another point I would like to mention in this discussion. Yes, based on the 'Notability Rules', it can be be kept and nothing wrong in that. But based on my research, findings and facts, this is purely an un-ethical way of self promotion and boosting and projecting a normal girl who does not have any
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Hey, I noticed you forgot to sign your name when you declined the request for Confirmed permission. I went ahead and signed it for you. If you feel that there is an administrative need to retain the signature, or that my unsign template was unnecessary, please don't hesitate to revert and tell me! :P
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Hello mr Yunshi, the orga .in is a seo trick , just to get their website up the google search ranking they have put this , any one can create a domain under .in command it can be (india.ind.in or briney.spears.in ) and same as been done above, so the whole thing is kind of real but i see it as a haux
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I thought I had done the needed change, had added the references and was feeling it was reasonable fort a first ever entry. It it seems to be now available on line. So I have no idea what this message is all about and need help in explaining. Are my changes OK or not? Please explain more. I do ntom
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Ok, this guy is getting absolutely ridiculous. Y&R airs an episode ahead in Canada, where does it say under any circumstances on Knowledge that I cannot update a page a day ahead? Just curious, because Nikki Newman and Jack Abbott married on the episode of Y&R today in Canada, however it does
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Yunshui, after you said it was perfectly fine having Eric Braeden in the Comings and Goings section with an Exit Date as TBA, based on SoapCentral. Musicfreak once again went around your authority and undid my post stating that it wasn't a reliable source. Every little thing I do, this guy makes sure
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Thank you very much for looking into this Yunshui. And yes I have an early subscription to SiD, so I get my information from there, and I also have sources that contact me whenever an immediate change is in the near future. I will do my very best to use edit summaries from now on, and look for actual
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Hey TSU. I'm sorry I haven't done more with the article. Truth be told, I'm not sure I'm the right person for the job - the amount of background reading I'd have to do just to get to the same basic level of knowledge that you and Vaibhav have on the subject is more than a little daunting, and due to
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I'd be glad to, but I'm on holiday at present and have only very limited internet access (this response is pretty much the only thing I'm likely to have time to post today). If Guðsþegn's cool with waiting a couple of weeks to kick off, then all's good; otherwise, he might be better off with someone
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I would like to commend the two of you for resolving the AfD in such a way that shows the best merits of editors co-existing. This easily could have turned into a heightened situation, and has done so in the past even. Everyone presented their arguments and Yunshui, took the time and care to see it
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Your research was considerable, and I commend you for it. However, what you say is correct; it is quite possible for a subject to get coverage in comparatively minor news outlets and thus warrant an article. Let me reiterate again: for Knowledge purposes it matters not one whit whether the coverage
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Regarding the first point, I am not very familiar with the Knowledge deletion process and I never knew that AFD discussions should be related to and based on 'Notability Rules' of Knowledge and nothing else. I guess it is the same with many others participated in the discussions. This point was not
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in the past, and no major changes have been made to either the article or the policies, then renominating it is almost certainly going to be a waste of everybody's time, especially since you didn't advance any policy-based reason for deletion. However, you did make the nomination in good faith, and
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have written about him. So far, the only sources mentions which are not by Schofield himself are simply used to verify background information (such as the laws regarding homosexuality and the work of people who have been influenced by Schofield). At present, there are not enough independent sources
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Now, regarding the long text I posted. Yes, some others also mentioned that. And I know it is a pain to go through the entire content that I posted. I wanted to explain my points with maximum details and proof. I didn't want to talk based on guesswork. As I mentioned above, I never knew we should
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While I respect the decision completely, I still didn't get few things. 'Notability rules' are the sole justification for a Knowledge entry? So anyone who get their details published in few newspapers will get an entry in Knowledge? This question is not to mock the system or to make fun of anyone,
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Thanks for your reply. I think the RFC was unnecessary, as there was already a discussion ongoing at Wikiproject Film, but I hope that it can result in something positive. The best result, in my opinion, would be a rewrite of the plot, which is nearly incoherent. My concern, though, is that the
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To be honest, I'd suggest not deleting it at all - we have individual articles on just about every sura of the Qu'ran, and deleting one of them apparently at random would open a seriously huge can of worms. Whilst Knowledge isn't an indiscriminate collection of information, we are an encyclopedia,
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had deemed acceptable. I, myself, am a fan of Soap Central, however, per the guidelines and consensus reached at the WikiProject, Soap Central is not deem able on cast lists. Several editors prior to me who've held much more history within the WikiProject have also reminded me that said website is
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Incidentally, I'd also just like to briefly dispel the idea that Musicfreak7676 edited "around my authority": I have no more authority here than anyone else, and I can't dictate whether something is "allowed" in a particular section or not. I'm just trying to offer a neutral third party opinion to
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Yes, I know it is a US soap, but I do not see anything that says it cannot be updated based on the fact that the episode had aired. I should see no reason now as to not editing Davidson's Comings and Goings section for her exit on August 3 (for US viewers) considering today in Canada was her last
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Yes, it was nice discussing with Yunshui as he very well explained the system and the rules behind AFD. That also in a nice manner. I never knew (and many others too I guess) 'Notability Rules' are the sole thing which leads to decision making in an AFD. Yes, I knew that the votes alone will not
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I've left a message on his talkpage asking him politely to give it a rest until the RfC concludes. For the record, I too think the section he's adding has no place in the article (fascinating though it is; I'll have to re-watch the film tonight with that information in mind), but don't intend to
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I understand your reasoning for declining protection. My intention was to maintain the integrity of the article while we attempted to reason with Inedible, which has consistently failed so far. Would you mind keeping an eye on things, in case he returns? He has already been warned for his 3RR
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Dear Yunshui! I need help from you with the behavior of another wikipedia editor. Santurman is steering into an edit conflict without improving the article itself, just claiming his version to be "written in stone". He even deleted the "multi issues with this article, refimprove etc.. tags"! See
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Hi, I am sorry for the confusion but I did not just attack Musicfreak. Every little thing I say he takes as an attack, the message I just sent to him that he just deleted was this "Oh Musicfreak, would you give it a rest already. I don't understand why you continue to edit Eileen Davidson's last
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This article is currently a good article nominee.Please review this.I'm pretty sure it gonna be failed once again.Because there is lots of issues like dead links, unappropriated references,POV etc.Though i've notified nominating user that not to nominate that without solving issues.Please check
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based on US airdates. If it were a Canadian soap, it'd be OK to update. I only undid it because I checked "My Watchlist" and it showed me changes had been done. It had nothing to do with you. If somebody else made the edit, I would've undone it for the same reason. You're making this a personal
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I was going to comment on your page Ryulong but since you moved it here - my apologies for reverting your talkpage when he added that, I had just finished commenting and was away from the comp for a few mins when it appeared and just hit undo when I got back. I was off to drop him a warning but
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First, you'll note that all the project titles have now changed to the Page Curation prefix, rather than having the New Pages Feed prefix. This is because the overarching project name has changed to Page Curation; the feed is still known as New Pages Feed, and the Curation Toolbar is still the
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pages because of their political beliefs that Hong Kong should revert to British rule or become its own sovereign nation, and believes that means anything because of it, is going to be a nuisance on this project for some time to come. I find it weird he prefers the crown colony flag over an
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What are your grounds for deleting a perfectly viable wikipedia entry (TREDIC Corporation) and wasting my companies extremely valuable time? Please take the time to thoroughly investigate prior to deleting valid entires next time, this includes visitng the privacy policy settings of TREDIC
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moved the page to Retina Displays, then you deleted G8 (at which time the main page, and not the talk page, had been moved back to Retina Display. I'm pretty sure this is what happened but I may have it wrong (without being able to see where the deleted content is it's difficult. Thanks,
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to your claim. I mean to say that if they are not officially married, we can have a way of adding it but there must be a reliable source out there which says that they are not officially married. Sources such as press releases or books or official website would be great. Once you've got a
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which you should take a look at. Knowledge isn't a crystal ball, which in short means it doesn't tell the future. Nikki and Jack's marriage has not aired in the US yet, where the series is set and is centered. You can't update until hatafter the marriage airs on the east coast of US.
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From what I've been told by other editors who have years more experience than I have, the edits cannot be made since the soap is not a Canadian soap. It goes based on the country it origins. That's what has been told to me by several editors, who got their claims from
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vendetta when I've never made it personal until you personally attacked me on my wall. I've kept everything Wiki-related. This is how it's been getting done for years, and now you think you can just come in and do as you please, and that is not how Knowledge works.
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What a mess. After wading through all the arguments (on the AfD, the three previous AfDs, and the talkpage), I finally closed it as Keep. Again. I'm half-inclined to issue a warning to the nominator for disruptive editing... Thanks for drawing my attention to it.
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reliable. Musicfreak7676 is a highly experienced editor in this area and so I don't doubt for a moment that I've simply missed the appropriate discussion of SoapCentral; if you could link it for me that would be handy, just to clarify it for Colton
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until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
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until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
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have said it isn't a third-party, valid source. It's a "Scoop" anyway, it isn't a news breaking that anyone else has reported. And I did not see this posting until after I had done the edit. SC has been deemed by the community as not fitting
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Cast lists in soaps change all the time, and so it's important to try to reflect the most up-to-date information. Colton hockey11 is to be commended for trying to keep the article current. However, any information added to Knowledge must be
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Musicfreak7676, would you be able to link to a discussion or policy that shows that information on US soap plots can only be sourced to their US showing? I'm not aware of such a consensus, and it seems contrary to the usual requirements of
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issue with Colton's exits if (s)he had just sourced it from the magazine and/or website in the correct format. Erasing a TBA with sources for a date with no sources isn't acceptable. I don't see how I didn't keep it directed on the topic.
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TSU has a point - what you need is a source showing the correct surname, not a claim surmised from in-universe events. Taking a position on her surname based soley on whether or not events on the show mean that she is legally married is
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but I find it very strange. And second, " I'm half-inclined to issue a warning to the nominator for disruptive editing" - you meant my nomination? If so, would you please explain it? I mean what disruptive editing that I have done? --
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I hope you're having a nice vacation, but your enrollee seems to be inactive. I would remove e from the status page and let them know that if they become reactive they will need to re-enroll. At your discretion, but my suggestion.
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indef him already. He's a nationalistic editor who's only here to push his own personal propaganda. Why he chose to take out his beliefs on the Amazing Race season pages is beyond me. Also, the fact he assumes I'm Japanese is
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does), they should, in theory at least, be somehow available to the general public. I would therefore suggest holding off on adding this information until the magazine is published and can be correctly cited in the article -
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I do not understand how that is an attack, I am just giving him information that he does not know. He then goes to delete my comment to make it look like I am leaving him a personal attack, which is not what I am doing.
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before reverting and reporting to AIV. The lack of edit summaries and aggressive messages on your talk page might admittedly make that difficult, but try to see past such things to the other editor's actual motivation.
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Hi Yunshui, could you please take a look at this IP user's contributions and block log. I'm thinking about using mass rollback (given that there are so many and the history) but I just wanted to get an admin's opinion.
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Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article.
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Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article.
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of coverage, not its content. I actually agree that there are some flaws in the current policy (it gives far too much weight to modern popular culture, for example), but an AFD discussion is not the place to change
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plenty more on Google News archives and web search. With over twenty references it's a shame this Berkley pilot, veteran, aircraft manufacturer, and businessman was considered not notable and had to be deleted.
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That was quick. I'm trying to steer clear of any POV issues and just focus on grammar and readability at the moment, although I've found myself neutralising the more hyperbolic language from time to time.
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I see you removed the tag for help. Great...no prob. New editor will or won't ask. Question: I noticed that you put a ""t"" in the link. Is that the way to do an easy no link instead of using <wiki:
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of significant coverage in multiple, reliable, independent sources is sufficient to warrant an article. As I said above, it's arguably a flaw in the rules, but that's the way it currently stands.
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you'd waited a decent length of time to tag it again, so warning you for disruption would be overly harsh (which is why I didn't). I apologise if you felt at all threatened by the above comment.
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Thanks for that, Acroterion got in first. I had checked a few and found some to be okay, but I was just about to do it when I noticed that it had already been done. I was a little too slow :).
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As far as the disruptive editing comment goes, that was somewhat glib on my part (I was rather frustrated after wading through all your walls of text...) If an article has been taken to AFD
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weigh in on the RfC for fear of making my talkpage message appear somewhat hypocritical. I'm more interested in preventing the edit warring than in whether or not the section gets included.
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which you semi-protected on 3 August 2012. Hope you are enjoying/enjoyed your holiday (I'm going to leave a message on RFPP that I believe you're on holidays - sorry if I'm wrong. Regards,
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Hi Bailey Chipping, and sorry for the late reply; I've been away. The main problem I can see with the article is that almost all of the references are to Schofield's own work. Knowledge's
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Yeah, good call, actually. After that post on your talkpage I've slapped a 48hr block on him; should have just done so earlier and saved you having to endure that little tirade. Sorry.
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Hi Kudpung. Is there a specific section you're suspicious of? I've copy-pasted a few bits and bobs into Google and found only Wikimirrors, but I'm not sure which part(s) to focus on.
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Yunsui! You have deleted my webpage User: RcSihag/R.C.Sihag. Kindly restore it. I will soon get the information on tripod deleted. I wish to keep this information on wikimwdia.
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It's still a beta version - bugs are expected - and we've got a lot more work to do. But if you see something going wrong, or a feature missing, drop me a note or post on the
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Just having a look at the history, it seems they do some good ones to start with the move onto doing it every article they see. Hopefully they'll lose interest after a month.
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he is there right away to undo it. Which I don't understand considering you said that Eric Braeden leaving Y&R was allowed in the Comings and Goings section. Thank you.
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Finally, kindly let me know how to proceed from here, how to nominate for a deletion review or what is the next step to follow up in this to continue the discussion. --
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Regarding the second point above, no, it is alright and it didn't sound like threatening. I was new to the terms and I was curious. Thanks for explaining that too.
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Yunshui got there first. I have to say though, he cannot actually be from HK can he? I dont know anyone from there who uses 'Hongkongese' or wording to that effect.
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I'm having a crack at it now; afterwards I'll take a look at the lead. May not get finished today; if I suddenly stop editing, feel free to carry on without me!
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I will be keeping an eye on that address once the block expires - hopefully the person behind it will have found something better to do with their time by then.
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as their is no subject or article to write about anything. do i have to go it in long AFD for this ? or again putting this to speedy deletion would be fine ?
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for possible copyvios and/or close paraphrasing. I seem to have stumbled on something but I'm not sure if they are mirroring WP content or not. Thanks.
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Thank you for explaining it. I am not sure whether this is the right place to discuss it, if not, please let me know where to and I will continue there.
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was about to be announced so was intending to start work on my subpage for it. In the meantime, I saw that someone did create it and it was looking like
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independent one, though. And Only in death, it is weird that he's decided to use "Hongkongese", considering they tend not to use that phrase themselves.—
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The issues brought here are addressed perhaps can you leave few comments there if it is warranted and fix the POV in the lines of the article. Thanks.
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Yunshui, I never made any of my comments towards said user personal in anyway. I always keep things directed to the topics at hand when I leave the
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The curation toolbar, our Wikimedia-supported twinkle replacement. We're going to be deploying it, along with a pile of bugfixes, to wikipedia on
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I hope to see a lot of you there; it's going to be a big day for everyone involved, I think :). I'll have more notes after the deployment!
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Hello chaps, sorry to have missed most of this conversation. Regarding SoapCentral as a source, I did only have a short look at it, and if
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Hi Yunshui! I see that you've been busy of lat doing all those admin stuff and you are doing great. Do you remember our collaboration for
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I have full access to Highbeam, and having run a number of different searches, can find no mention of the subject in the archives there.
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Regarding the edits, yes, as the deletion discussion is closed, I will try to make few edits in the article, not in an attacking way.
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I think that may be someone to watch in a month, because right after their 1 week block expired they started the same thing again.
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sources - whilst Schofield can be used, with caution, as source for information about himself, it's more important to cover what
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tags work as well, of course, but have the disadvantage that they don't provide a link to the template content. A useful trick!
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Just got my access. Dissapointing the search only goes back 25 years, the Dole Air race got national coverage and newsreels.
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deems it unreliable then their opinion definitely trumps my own. That said, the only discussion of it I could find there was
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Once I have added reliable citations (under way: e.g. newspapers), how do I resubmit the article for moderation? Thanks :)
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Blocked. I see you already mass rollbacked them; I approve and would have done so myself if you hadn't gotten there first.
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issue, because the show has aired. I can understand if it was a week in advance, but it is not, as Yunshui has clarified.
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for the content you want to add up. I tried to find but I didn't get source to things you added thus few facts may be
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You need to check for deleted edits. A few of the ones you suggested had no edits, had some but they were deleted.
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and it's edit history. Many article statements are clearly disprooven by quick search and multiple ext. sources.
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and coverage like this is appropriate. If you're determined to get the page deleted for some reason, I'd suggest
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I've clarified myself above. He is not here to edit constructively and in 2 days he's just going to be angrier.—
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GA? You had helped a lot there and I'm in need of few touch ups again. I came across the news that verdict of
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was incorrect, but that I made an error in assessing the arguments put forth) then you can open a case at
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Hi, I thought A1 wasn't the best criteria, but I couldn't find anything better. What would you suggest?
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In April you warned user Thirtyonecookies about vandalism. Since then he has vandalized the entry for
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which has its 4th AFD with just the process stretched can you have a look into this and close please
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I have no interest or patience in devoting myself to Knowledge. If anyone cares they can report it.
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Shows what Google translate knows. Never trust a translation robot... Anybody there speak Kannada?
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Hey all. Some quick but important updates on what we've been up to and what's coming up next :).
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help the two of you resolve the issue. You can both take or leave my suggestions as you see fit.
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Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know that you did something silly.
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can you write it so that it summarizes the article? Three or four paragraphs would do great :)
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It is simple to re-submit the article. Once you are done with the fixes you want to do, place
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Hi Colton and thanks for your contributions! Instead of changing the text, why not provide a
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Thanks for accepting the RPP decision, and please let me know if the disruption continues.
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Alright then, if that's the case I won't bother. It just seems so short and insignificant.
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You can put "tl|" before the content in the template. In a help me template, you replace
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No worries, I saw it on my watchlist then had a look at them and did a 'what the heck'.
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Stepping back now to let Vaibhav have a crack at it; I'll take another look tomorrow.
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the sole (or at least primary) justification for an entry. If a subject has received
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Thanks for looking and confirming. I also concluded that they were mirrors. Cheers,
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articles, rather then using my source/SiD, when it is not available to the public.
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Colton hockey11; I'd advise a couple of things. Firstly, you need to start using
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Thank you for your professionalism Yunshui. Hope this issue gets rectified soon.
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Hey, one more request. The lead is in the state as it was when created, so per
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Fine, I'll be taking. We'll give you someone in September. Enjoy your Holiday!
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at the top of your submission and it will be up for review again. Cheers!
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That is precisely what I thought. Thank you for clearing it up Yunshui.
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