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31: 803: 501:(please see Archive 1, "Misrepresentation of sources" downwards) where you cannot find another single editor to agree with your position. Band's own talk pages are not relevant here, as the intro already reads "have been described as nu metal by professional journalists". We have already had an inconclusive RfC, but another may be useful. However, until you can point me towards a consensus for 274:
think is real) you can not remove them because they are sourced. I don't think Evanescence, Tool, Puddle of Mudd, etc. are nu metal, but that doesn't mean that I'm going to remove them from the list. And the source for Kid Rock does actually state that he is nu metal. You can even see the book on google books. Have a nice night.
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We have multiple books and sources from MTV and Rolling Stone. Your opinion that these are not reliable is just that, a point of view. And we have an established consensus. In layman's terms: Nu metal should stay in the infobox. Plain and simple. Thank God almighty that the page was protected. Also
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hi. according to the page "WikiProject African diaspora aims to improve all articles related to the cultural contributions of people of African descent all over the world. " this seems to apply. if it really does not belong in the project i would appreciate that someone involved in the project would
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Very recently there was a death in my family and I really don't want to have an argument here, so can you please keep this civil? The bands you keep putting "dubious" next to all have sources next to them stating the bands are nu metal, even if you feel they aren't nu metal(something you don't even
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Again, the sources do not say what the person who added them claims they say. Opinion can run two ways. You can't add bands that you feel are nu metal to the list, and I can't remove bands that I feel aren't nu metal when the source says otherwise. But, in the case of the sources cited, nothing is
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besides, these users are massively different in their general attitude on wikipedia, and they have massively different styles of editing. Also, I can't see where these users would have violated 3rr if they were socks. For those reasons I fail to see a link between these accounts, and archived the
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312:" Are you freaking kidding me? Do you not hear the irony in that statement at all? That's all you have been doing and you are putting dubious to bands that are sourced because you don't want them associated with the "useless catchphrase." And read the ref for Kid rock. 552:
As I said in the archive, this is essentially a case where two users have the same opinion in a content dispute, as J.delanoy has said. The evidence presented by you in the SPI case fails to draw any thing else against these users other than their edits on the page
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You're currently arguing against six sources and six editors, and you've claiming that a direct cite saying Incubus is nu-metal, by perhaps the top music magazine ever, is not legitimate. Just accept that they're going to be listed and move on.
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Hi, well thank you for ask me for review the article, but the problem is my english is not as good for pass or fail any article. Of course, I can review it and comment on the talk page some changes could be done.
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You are not multiple editors. You are one editor. Multiple editors say that the nu metal inclusion is absolutely justified and yet again may you please take this to the article's discussion page and not mine?
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as you saw it was something that should be in the project. please try to make sure of things before you undo peoples changes in the future because if you dont it is a big waste of everyones time. thanks.
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I will certainly look at the suggestions and work on the article. Unfortunately, I've had a lot to do recently and won't be able to spend much time on it until tomorrow or Saturday though.
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You're one to talk of "irony" when you scream at me to stop doing the one thing that I'm not doing - the one thing that you are doing. Why don't you stop POV pushing, and contribute? (
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mocking me. I don't see how you can justify stating that you weren't, considering that you fed back to me something that I told you, which, by the way, still holds true. (
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Please stop mocking me. There's no consensus to justify your actions, or the inclusion of poor sources, such as a book that was not written by a music expert, and a
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If you don't trust them as a source, then it's up to you to file a complaint or whatever and to have them removed as an RS. 18:21, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
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I did that, and all I got back was "you're just trying to ruin the article because you hate Kid Rock and nu metal". And, seriously, you
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I guess that's the reason why my talk page has a pile of warnings over neutrality-based edits. Oh, wait, no, it doesn't, that's
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I've commented on the deletion of Blaze's albums. I'll begin some work on the articles now. Also, I've looked over
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is currently a Good Article nominee, but is on a long backlog. Would you be interested in reviewing the GAN? (
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I see no consensus there... where is there a consensus of editors agreeing on how we are going to proceed?
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I posted my review of your behavior on the Wikiquette alerts page. Feel free to add your comments.
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You are aware that "someone said it was well sourced and written" and "it gets a lot of hits" are
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As far as contributions, there's always new page patrol , redlink projects, new page patrol, and
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No, I won't cease telling people that they're POV-pushing, but thanks for the suggestion. --
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for these issues please see the article's talk page and not individual editor's talk pages.
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case. If you have any new evidence to present, then let me know on my talk page. Please do
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do not add dubious to sourced bands on the list and do not remove referenced bands
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If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the
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and I don't believe there is anything else to add to Carnival of Carnage.
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Guidelines are just that, not rules and actually you do against a wikilaw(
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As always, we have a problem. The consensus is indeed quite clear on the
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I've cleaned up the sources and the article. I've also added the genre
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Now take this to the Kid Rock talk page not my talk page.
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doesn't say he isn't nu metal. This is getting hopeless,
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remove it rather than you. doesnt this seem reasonable?
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for eventual comments about the article. Well done! ––
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User talk:Sugar Bear
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PeterbrownDancin
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07:18, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
Diannaa
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16:56, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
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03:00, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
January 2010 issue
Nehrams2020
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00:20, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
January 2010 issue
Nehrams2020
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00:20, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
Aisha9152
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22:12, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
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