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1069:) you made the rather impolite comment "What does a US court case have to do with opinions of people who think Taiwan was integral to ROC?" I suppose that any college student could reply that "Some people may also think that the world is flat, but that does not make it so." More to the point, the judges in the case mentioned analyzed the international legal record, and conferred with the US State Dept., and came to the conclusion that Taiwan is not a part of ROC national territory. Hence, as qualified legal professionals, their opinion should carry some weight. Again, please provide some solid references for your alternative viewpoint. 970:. I'd like to draw your attention, in case you're new to the topic, to the fact that the entire field of climate change on Knowledge is under general sanctions imposed by the Arbitration Committee. Please don't use the talk pages, edit summaries or article space for inappropriate comments, in particular attacks on other people or "us and them" style discussions. Stick to the content and discussion of how best to represent the topic, please. Take up interpersonal issues on user talk pages, and so on. If there is a glaring instance of inappropriate behaviour, please take it immediately to 643:.) are not members of a Country Club, or a Gentlemen's Club, be it in London or in New York, and we ought not to "just take HIS word for it", what it ultimately boils down to, without question. In the spirit of democracy, a fair amount of doubt and scepticism ought to be allowed. The word "claim" do not upon (on) its own usually infer a meaning of uttering or writing an untruth, or a lie, although its use is often liable to attract the accusation thereof; the word "purport", however, does, at least in the modern usage, and certainly the word "pretend", for quite some time indeed. 414: 111: 1556: 647:
progeny are not of note (notable) in their own right (whereas they would had been if Derbyshire were, due to reasons best explained at a different forum, at a different juncture), especially given their relative minority (young age), and they definitely have not yet made a name for themselves, not even trades or occupations of any sort to speak of. It might had been different if the either of them had authored or published any works of literature, such as what
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going to individual user's talk pages but there were so many users engaged in such behavior. I did consider taking J. Johnson dispute resolution but my initial request for a third party intervention was ignored and I decided I could probably just to ignore him. I have been pondering whether this something that should be brought to the group that deals with Systemic Bias but I'm not sure this fits there either.
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States of America". In all other cases, we are using the city name and a location that serves to clearly disambiguate the city from other cities that may have the same name. "Taiwan" clearly disambiguates "Taipei". Further, it avoids any POV complaints from fringe beliefs that Taipei is part of the PRC. Whether you believe Taipei is part of the ROC or the PRC, no one disputes that Taipei is in Taiwan.
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to not use a loaded word like "claim". It sounds like you are from the UK. If that is the case perhaps this is a difference in dialect. Words may have a different connotation in the UK than in the US as I'm sure you're aware. A more neutral phrasing ("According to John Derbyshire, ...", "John Derbyshire writes...", "John Derbyshire says...", "John Derbyshire has stated...", etc.) would be better.
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necessarily a reality matter. Knowledge deals in reality and when there are questions it deals in significant views of what the reality is. Legal decisions are certainly a significant view of reality, but they do not alone define reality. There are other viewpoints including the significant views of people who live in Taiwan and support or control the Kuomintang government.
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which has been in the article for awhile (about Taipei for over 1.5 years). I think I understand your deletion of the added Nanjing entry, but the text should've been restored. I've gone and re-added the deleted text, because I think it can/could be useful to the reader unacquainted with the issues.
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I've shifted the above posts to this page instead of the talk. I still very much disagree that the IP was attempting to contribute, because of the combination of content and writing style. I also disagree that removing such a post is uncivil. Still, per your post I'll leave it there in good faith and
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article, in particular in relation to your assertion that Taiwan is a part of ROC territory. Could you please verify what international legal documents and/or scholarly articles you are referencing in your assertion? In the Revision History of Government_in_exile, in regard to the US court case of
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had supposedly done during her minority. This might be the 21st. Century, but I do not see how they could be included into an encyclopaedic, or encyclopedic article, without having been first mentioned or published in Derbyshire's notice of death or obituary. If something was not fit (good enough) to
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Decent response to the whole thing too (as in, one mostly agree with...), which is really well within WP:LAME territory. One nit though—my own entirely unscientific observation is that the pro-independence media tend to use "China", whereas the pro-(re)unification media tend to use "the mainland" or
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As for the court case - there is the question of whether a US court has jurisdiction over Taiwan. Even if a US court were to rule that it does, would that invalidate ROC and PRC courts that say it doesn't? And even all the courts around the world agreed, that would still be only a legal matter, not
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Hi I saw you changed the Taiwan disambiguation page! Thanks for contributing. The argument you gave, that "sovereignty is POV" regards the article in the list is mistaken. While any actaul claim (by the encyclopedia itself) as to the sovereignty of Taiwan might be disputed, the fact is that PRC does
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As for his wife and children. I don't care much whether their names are included in the article or not. They were originally included as he has frequently referenced them by name in his writings. If you do include them, or any other information that comes directly from Derbyshire, it is good form
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Rather than argue point by point, I think we can go straight to the solution. "Taipei, ROC (Taiwan)" or "Taipei, Taiwan (ROC)" would be acceptable, though the latter is preferable because "Taipei, Taiwan" is far more common usage and clarifies the information most people use to identify Taipei. The
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Aside from injecting "Republic of China", the only other state name being used is "United States", presumably because some people believe "America" might be confusing because the Americas are sometimes called simply "America". And even then, "United States" is not the full name of the state "United
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when I went in there to post a reply. I thought perhaps this user was making unintentionally disruptive edits but in good faith, but judging by the edit history the user seems to be intentionall disruptive. I'm not sure of their political persuation but their tactics seem to be stealthy at best and
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At the risk of offending yourself, John Derbyshire, after all, ultimately cannot be said in good faith to be (or, he is not really) a man of much note, or, much notability, perhaps even in his adopted land; other than being an emigrant originally from the Southern shires and provinces, he certainly
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Now having a bout of influenza, or cold, amongst other things, personally, I am not really too "worked up" with the removal of the COI-tag, which is perhaps to be expected, eventually; but, and this is a matter perhaps too delicate, if not inflammatory, but probably not libellous, for the article's
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It is also the policy of Knowledge to provide references for statements and assertions made on its webpages. Knowledge is involved with verifiable facts, and not speculation. In regard to what the people of Taiwan and China believe, much of it is also falls in the realm of myth, fable, parable,
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It seems that his wife's name was, or is, not "Changhe", after all, being more of the name of a Chinese-made car. I shall be intrigued to know as to whether Derbyshire's marriage certificate, presumably Chinese, was deposited (in contrast to "registration", a distinction they are at pains to make)
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that the IP was unaware of the meaning of "colony", but that can be corrected easily enough. I agree that he clearly has a strong POV, but we all have POVs and it is quite common for new editors to have to learn to suppress them. There is also a guideline that says to be gentle with new editors.
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Knowledge demands civility. When someone makes an attempt to contribute we supposed to be civil even if we completely disagree with that person. As for your accusation that he's just making an attack - one of the guidelines of Knowledge is that we assume good faith. I agree with your assessment
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If you're repeatedly finding people expressing disagreement with your proposals and even dismissing them out of hand, that in itself isn't a sign of hostility. It's a sign that you have failed to build consensus. There are appropriate ways to tackle this. It's up to you to read about the editing
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Thank you for the information. I am new to the topic. What do you mean by "under general sanctions". How do such sanctions that apply to the numerous personal attacks that were directed toward me? Is there a page where problematic behavior related to the topic can be directed? You mentioned
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I'm a bit late to this party (been travelling for work recently) but I noticed your comment on the Taiwan talk page that there's no rule about signing posts. If you're interested, the following line is in our signature guideline: "Any posts made to the user talk pages, article talk pages and any
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The names of the son and of the daughter (or even that of the wife) ought not (do not really) belong to the article. John Derbyshire is not e.g. a gentleman (with a "coat-of-arms"), a knight, a baronet or a member of the peerage back in England, or in Scotland or Ireland, and the members of his
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Nah, you've lost me there completely. I didn't take the dispute anywhere. Midcent did, and didn't even advise me. I only ever responded, AFTER he had posted his unsigned bullshit in about five different places across Knowledge, and after I had noticed it, sometimes by pure chance. If you cannot
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I would like to seek your view as to whether we should eliminate from the lists of diplomatic missions by sending/receiving countries all references to representative offices of sending states that do not have formal diplomatic missions with the host states. This would affect a large number of
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ROC (Taiwan) is also to be used "When identifying nationality (eg. "Lee Teng-hui is a citizen of the Republic of China (Taiwan).")" - Adding "Germany," "Honduras," etc. unavoidably invokes nationality, even if your intention is just to show geographical location. Sister city relationships are
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tongue, means, besides a surname, amongst other things, "love", "loves", "loved" or " love", &c., regardless of the tense, absent in Chinese; and I don't think that her wife's real and legal name, if she is still supposedly a Chinese subject, or a citizen of China, and somehow not yet a
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It says "Guatemala", not "Republic of Guatemala". It says "Mexico", not "United States of Mexico". It says "Honduras", not "Republic of Honduras". It says "Colombia", not "Republic of Colombia". It says "Spain", not "Kingdom of Spain". It says "Brazil", not "Federative Republic of Brazil"
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was a wholesale deletion of about half the article but was marked "a minor edit". That user's post on my talk page said it was due to "unicode control characters". It would probably be a good idea to keep an eye on this uer's edits on Taiwan-related articles if you come across them.
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By having it as "Taipei, Taiwan" without mentioning the ROC and while having other countries mention their states, it inadvertently introduces the POV that Taiwan is not a part of China. (Especially with the ] link) - But it just seems strange when pairing it with the obviously ROC
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It does us little harm to allow the text to remain on the talk page for a few days to give the IP a chance to read the comments and maybe even respond to them. After that closing the discussion should be easy as it appears that the three of us agree on the outcome of the
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Before you teach me, why don't you wait until there are significant agreement first then move? Not only no one have agree with your proposal or even settled the problem yet you move first? Like I said, if you would like to make a new template, you're welcome to do so.
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In summary, as long as country flags are shown and as long as other non-disputed countries are named "Republic of China" is unavoidable here - If you don't want the ROC to be mentioned, then other country labels should be deleted and the flags should be removed.
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I'm not as in touch with happenings in Taiwan as I was even just 5 years ago, so things may have changed. I know I used to find it surprising to hear so many pro-independence folk use "mainland". I'm glad to hear they're not doing it as much anymore.
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has to be included because every other entry on the list has its country/state identified. If ROC is to be removed, every other country must be removed too. Our China guidelines say that PRC and ROC must be used when referring to political divisions.
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BTW - the language I use in those situations that so offends you is language I hear many times daily where I live and work. Different places, different cultures. Whose culture should decide what's acceptable here is an interesting question
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It's not an assertion that Taiwan is part of ROC territory. The assertion is that there are people who do believe Taiwan is part of ROC territory. One particularly significant example of this is the government of Taiwan. Another is
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Looking back through his contribution history, every edit I checked was eventually reverted, and it was done by almost as many different people as there were articles he edited (i.e. it wasn't just one or two editors reverting him
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etc. Hence, my insertion of a "Citation Needed" is certainly reasonable, because the readers are entitled to know about FACTS and not just propaganda. Again, please provide some solid references for your alternative viewpoint.
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When discussing territorial claims or even claims of possession ("China claims Taiwan", "he claimed his inheritance") the word is pretty neutral. But when used for simple statements of truth or fiction the word is loaded.
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I'm not quite ready to call it vandalism since it looks more like POV pushing and he did at least make an effort to talk with you. I put a comment on his page encouraging him to read up on some of policies such as NPOV.
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You will see that enough other editors realised where the real fault existed. My firmness and frankness led to that editor clearly showing his true colours and doing even more stupid things, and ultimately being blocked.
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You said: "rv "Taipei, Taiwan" is enough to identify city. "Taipei, Taiwan, ROC" could imply misinformation (use of ROC implies political jurisdictions; while Taipei is in Taiwan, it is not in "Taiwan Province""
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naturalised, or naturalized, American citizen, really is "Lynnette Rose". Is "Changhe", or "Chang-he", or "Chang He", the given name of her wife? That was not in fact you, however, I sincerely hope. --
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There's nothing in original post here that is remotely constructive. The IP doesn't know what a colony is, and is simply making an ill-informed attack on countries with large immigrant communities.
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imply "something that he does not have, but ought to have", nor "something that he did not do, but ought to had done". A strange analogy in many ways indeed, and probably an ill-placed one as well.
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Anyhow, if it is "uncredited", then naturally it is unverifiable. We and Derbyshire (perhaps the "Mr." title can now be safely dispensed with, lest it appear any more pompous; this is after all not
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All I wrote, and intended to say, was that John Derbyshire is not of such note (or with such a notability), and probably never will, as to warrant the inclusion of the names of his children,
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page as you suggested. That page seems to be for reporting a breach of a ruling that has already been made. I don't know of any rulings that have been made that have been breached.
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In addition to the guidelines, it makes sense to give this person a response and a chance to read the response because doing so will make him less likely to start edit-warring.
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latter is definitely preferred if using the spelled out "Republic of China" instead of "ROC" because the longer name will tend to obfuscate the identifying information.
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acceptable shorthand for Republic of China, so "Taiwan" and "Republic of China" is not analogous to United States and United States of America - I will repeat:
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Okay, I read the links. I can see why you wanted to keep that in, that portion is a mess. I'm trying to sort it out and see if it can be written better.
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underhanded at worst - the initial edit by an anon (whose edit pattern seems to indicate they may be the same person as Quickbest5t6) on
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It's not removed. It's in the 2nd paragraph. There's actually no reason for it to show up twice. To state and restate the same thing.
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has not yet made a name for himself back in his native land, and probably never will, unlike even the likes of
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back in the year nineteen-hundred and eleven, then probably it is not fit (good enough) for inclusion today.
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That's one brilliant turn of phrase. I hope you don't mind if I nick it. :P
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Taiwan Province. I.E. I meant Taipei, Island of Taiwan, Republic of China.
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Taiwan alone is not an acceptable shorthand for the Republic of China
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User talk:Rjanag#Leehom Wang's Nationality
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Cape No. 7

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