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ever you want as long as you make it clear to the readers that it is an ahmadiyya mosque or thing relating to it , not in such an ambiguous way as you did in the greater London article, as if you want to lead some readers intentionally towards the idea of ahmadiyya as being the authentic Islam . yes they proclaim islam but they are not approved by muslems in general, even if they are right in there claim ( which they are not ) they represent less than %0.005 among the muslem world. Hence by doing so your the one targeting muslems depriving them from their right to name themselves and name who ever share there believes as muslems and their places of worship as mosques . the realm of islam began more than 1400 years ago compared to 120 years the age of ahmadiyya . if this is a your way to invite people towards ahmadiyya then your deceiving them by taking advantage of the fastest growing religion in the world especially in the west, and it proves that you donāt have enough trust in your believes .
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Hello You edited my post about the largest mosques.Do you know that Al Azhar in Cairo and Mosque of Rome are much bigger than bait ul futuh in London.You may like to review what I stated but I request you to make amendments accordingly as there are 100s of mosques larger than this.
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Please can you explain why you would consider removing my factual update on the Mirza page. My family are direct decendents of the Mogul empire and I can trace our lineage back to
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relations between various nations/empires that happened to follow a certain faith. Now such articles also contain relationship between the teachings of the two faiths concerned. Here we have two very different topics which I think can be seperated into two articles titled
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I removed it because the point of talk pages is to help us to discuss ways to improve wikipedia articles, i.e. not about people's personal lives...but thanks for your suggestion - maybe you could apply this to yourself so not to waste your own time vandalizing pages
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personal attacks on you or your work. There's still so much you can do and help out on, and article creation isn't the most important thing compared to helping out with editing and adding content. Thanks so much,
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