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of saying something, you are in fact obliterating carefully qualified distinctions. This has annoyed me in the past, and I probably have let too much slip by without challenging you. This has resulted in some detriment in the articles concerned, though you have improved them in other ways. You seem to be here for the long haul and your copyedits focused on the language are generally good and appropriate. So I would like to get on a good working relationship with you. But that means getting real about what does not work from my perspective. I am not happy with
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to spell the state name consistently without the ʻokina but keep it for the island names. Otherwise it tends to attract purists who rewrite it "in
English" by removing all diacritics everywhere. My thinking is that the majroity of English speakers probably know about the state "Hawaii", but most do not even know there is more than one island. The GNIS also uses "Hawaii" for the state name but "Hawaiʻi" for the Big Island. We will see how long they last this time. Have you read the
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with the widespread disorganization of many such pages. Is there an existing model to emulate (in the spirit that there is no such thing as a new problem?) If not, is there better/broader forum than an article talk page for such a discussion (and what do you think of the outline?) Organizational changes do have a broader impact than the more typical "add a fact" edits made by most contributors. But if the content survives, perhaps organization is less of an issue.
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likely to miss such subtleties without spotlights. I think conversions are useful, but WP needs a better means of presenting them. I'd much rather hover over a number to see alternative units (with appropriate links) than to see them embedded in the text, but fixing that is over my current pay grade. I add templates in the hope that someday they'll work better. It'll be a great day when Web 2.0 shows up in WP.
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single point made by people who promote BHRT has been criticized by the mainstream medical community for being disingenuous. It's not a simply defined or definable term since it has no medical meaning and its actual definition varies according to who is using the term. There's a series of overlapping definitions which combine to include aspects of treatment, but there's no "one definition" that can be used.
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partial to BP's point of view than others, which has made for an agreement to be careful to avoid drastic edits and explain edits fully. While I do feel that the way you arranged the clean-up into 3 sections works well, you have deleted the information about oil reaching any shorelines in that section and shoreline clean-up. Was that an oversight, or did you not feel it to be important?
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origional edit page. I am not an experienced editor and what may take editors familiar with editing only a few minutes can take me hours, and success is not at all assured at that. Then I was unsure about where to add it, even if I could find the references. Since you are the one who deleted it, perhaps you could find a way to put it back?
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leis. In fact, there is so much information on this subtopic, we could create a new page. There's a lot to do, but right now we desperately need geographic and geological information describing the formation of the island, its relationship to the main chain, the islets, and more about the demographics of the locals.
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Not sure that makes sense. If the category were named "xxx endemic to Hawaii" it would, but it isn't. This way if you're trying to learn about Hawaii, the category is helpful to you. Is there another way to easily find the things that live there? Is your principle applied to analogous categories for
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Hi! You did a great deal of much-needed reorganization in the article and included most of the information that I feel to be important. I was unhappy to see some of my edits go, but that is to be expected. As you can imagine, some of the editors for this article have tended to appear to be more
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Thanks for the feedback. You're certainly the author of record on this as on many other articles. As is obvious, I have little knowledge of Niihau, but always work on the text as I learn about a new subject. I tend to like my paragraphs to have a single main idea, but I take your point and will work
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Hi, I noticed your edits to this article; please note that the code for adding alt text uses a '|', not a '.' (the preview function will help in catching this), and also, I prefer using the {{convert}} with the abbr=on tag, so as to avoid favoring of
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areas (no more than 100 m deep) that is vital to normal walrus foraging - and the increased recent retreat of the ice off of the shelf that is driving recently documented stresses and behavioral changes in the walrus populations. While your efforts are, again, largely beneficial, I would ask you to
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even defined. These are issues discussed at length in the body, it's a controversial intervention with no real medical meaning but a lot of marketing baggage and little science. It can't be simply defined as "a medical treatment" because that's plain old hormone replacement therapy. Nearly every
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rather than paragraphs to contain the main idea. I agree that the paragraphs need to flow more easily and connect (or thread) back to the main idea, so obviously more work is required. I noticed, for example, that we have enough information (in the sources that is) to start a new section on shell
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Noticed you made a fairly substantive edit to this article, and went to look at it as I actually suspected it to be some unsourced conspiracy theory. Needless to say I was dead wrong. That issue hasn't been covered in U.S. media at all. My only suggestion is you may want to find some additional
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Thanks for your reply. Actually that was what I had planned to do, however when it came right down to it, it was not so easy at all! I looked at the history and found info regarding the spread that was gone after you had finished your edits (Spill area), however I do not know how to find the
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Hello. There was a reference error in one of the edits you made to the page. I have replaced the broken ref tag with {{cn}} and maybe you can go back and put in the right source. If you do, maybe you can check my cleanup of the Blue-Spotted
Grouper entry on the same page. Thanks.
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Wasn't trying to remove content. I moved stuff I thought belonged elsewhere. The article covers spill damage in great detail. I tried to focus the cleanup section on activities. Please feel free to put any shoreline cleanup info in/back in, and thanks for opening this discussion.
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strongly associated with pharmacy compounding, blood or saliva testing, efforts to reach a targeted level of hormones in the body (as established through blood or saliva testing) and exaggerated, unfounded claims of safety and efficacy.
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Oh! An edit was just done and I realize that "Spill area" is not disappeared at all! Perhaps I missed it because it was moved up in the article. At any rate, I am embarrassed. Please accept my apology and continue with your good
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Didn't know about that discussion or about the manual of style. Thanks for the heads-up. I guess all the other now okina-addled articles I've worked on are out of step, too. I'm kind of surprised nobody pinged me before
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OK, Thank you for letting me know you are finished for now. But what is this "NAVSTAR" link you put in the
Geometric Dilution of Precision Computation section. It seems to just link back to the GPS article?
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