73:"Weak keep -- there's this bit on the high school's page that, if expanded upon, might lend the school some notability IMO: Sam Houston has Texas' oldest high school newspaper, the Aegis, started in 1889. In addition, the world's first girls' Military Drill Squad, formerly known as the Black Battalion, but now called the Tigerettes, originated at our school. It's not much, but it's something. - KeithTyler 17:25, Oct 5, 2004 (UTC) But nobody wants to do that work -- they just want to have tens of thousands of high school articles that have nothing different between them and no potential for notability. Lazy, cowardly, and presumptuous. - 19:22, Oct 8, 2004 (UTC)"
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connection to the fact that CED Videodiscs were the same as
Selectavision discs. And finally, the grammar and typing (not spelling) errors were very minor, due to my re-writing the page very quickly, but you made it seem like it was illiterate. The entire tone of your response on my talk page did not conform to wikiquette, which expects courteous and constructive comments from contributors, and you did not follow the proper guidelines when you put the page up for deletion. I am still fairly new to wikipedia, and it would be nice if people with more experience like you could be more helpful and constructive.-
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I don't really agree with your assessment. Yahoo! Mail uses CAPTCHAs only in its web interface. Web and E-mail are two different things, despite the fact that you can create gateways between them to access one via the other. That turns Yahoo! Mail into a website that serves as an email client. I can
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CAPTCHA in e-mail would require a multi-message transaction. You'd send an email to a mail server, the server would respond with an e-mail containing an attached image, and you'd email the server back with your response to the CAPTCHA challenge. This is conceivable, but is not what Yahoo! Mail is
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