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Discovery, Crossfire and The Next Generation (mentioned on the page) are just part of. Thank you.
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project were of a similar quality. Anyway, keep up the great work. I hope to see many more articles on
Malaysian novels and TV. If it was just a one of dont' worry. Your work is exemplary for how articles on video games/popular culture should look. If only we could have a similar quality for all articles..
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Freelancer is currently alive only because of a number of high-quality mods and tools developed within the community. When all other moddable games not only have those sections, but also have multiple wikipedia pages dedicated
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Ok, what is your criteria for notable composers? If it is a greater work ratio, then your listing is off. Takahiro Nishi was the game's sound director and, along with
Kenichiro Fukui, composed and arranged more than half the soundtrack. Junya Nakano and Kumi Tanioka should not be included, as they
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English that I didn't to be accidentally insulting anyone by calling Singaporean comics "manhua," and wanted to make sure I understood how things stood organizationally. Thanks again!
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Jappalang. What's the difference between Sfn and Harvn? Is the difference merely in the edit window (the former is more compact), or is there a difference in the viewing window? I believe you should have asked me prior to making such a major change to the citation style. I prefer Harvn because I
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Oops, didn't realize you already had it. I know the guy who owns Albion Armory, where Jody used to work. They were the company selling the only licesnsed reproductions from the movie, it's possible that they might have one...although I don't think the swords were actually forged. I believe they
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I have to keep looking, I think most of the printed/published stuff went to a knifemaker buddy who is just starting out, most of what I have in the office is his work on the butterfly knives for
Benchmade and his obit from January 2011's Blade Magazine, there's a long piece on the movie swords and
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Hi. I'm extremely impressed with your articles on the TV series and book. It just goes to show that even obscure topics to most people can be very resourceful. It is greate so see a well sourced article with wide reading on such articles. If only more articles related to the Japanese anime/manga
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Thanks for the reply. Actually I thought it would be relevant. If I could more details about Adrian Lim's other "clients", I would have made it a whole section by itself. Unfortunately most of his "clients" were either not named nor infamouse enough (with the exception of his 2 wives and Amutha
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after reading the first developer look back. It would be nice to see some company articles on here be quality ones, but I barely have time to do what little I'm doing now. :-\ Computer Gaming World issue 45 and Antic volume 4 issue 3 fill in some blanks about the company and the founder,
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personally (living in Russia) so I can't verify such sources personally. I'll be trying to find any sources that could work, but this will take some time. For apparent reasons, though, we cannot expect that any of the newer mods for a relatively old game get high-profile media attention.
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Fair enough. The Google Books was not for copy vio, rather that's just the impression I got from some editors. I was unaware Atari Magazines had permission to publish the content. Since that's the case, there are a few links I need to add to articles. :-) Thanks for the heads up.
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Here's a source from a bookwritten by 2 professors from Pace University on the film's depiction of making the sword:{{Cite book|title=The medieval hero on screen: representations from Beowulf to Buffy|chapter=The Hagiography of Steel:The Hero's Weapon and Its Place in Pop
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Unfortunately I've only got the abstract via my library as well. I put in an ILL request, generally they're fairly quick with sending copies and it's free, so give it a week and we might get something back (I'll also check the other school databases when I have a chance.)
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move onto GA status. Once that's over, I can reevaluate it for A-class. Ask around on how to nominate. There are three others that are supposedly active for the Wiki Comics Project -- Luminum, Fram and Emperor -- and it's time for them to start earning their keep!
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Hi, I must congratulate all who have worked on this excellent article. I have made of few edits today and left one in-line question regarding "fugitives" in phrase in did not understand. The article is beautifully written and a joy to read. Graham.
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A topic could be a possibility. I must admit though, this article was my first exposure to the company. So I don't see myself working on the rest either. :-\ Who knows though. I'd help out if time permits and I can find sources.
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Ok, I was directed to a source. There is a page on Freelancer mods in PCG194. (page 102) It featured: Freeworlds, Battlestar Galactica: Exodus, Discovery Freelancer, Shattered Worlds, and the Mod Manager. Will try to get exact
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Cosmo was promoted today, after a looooong hiatus. My final thanks to you for help over text and images. I hope I can return help to you in the future. Please ask if you need copyedits or similar help.
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did not contribute enough to be 'worthwhile' by your definition. I'm going to remove both of them and add Nishi as per the guidelines 'you' enforced. Consider doing some actual research beforehand.
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