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have been working so hard to just edit in peace and get along and do what I'm supposed to in order to be a valuable editor and then you pull this charge about my archives out of the air. And for what? Are you going to police everyone's archives now to see if they, too, have made an infraction they weren't even aware *was* an infraction? It's stuff like this that makes me wonder why in the world I'm even here at
Knowledge. Not only have I been a decent editor, I've made a number of good contributions with photo downloads, article creation, and watching pages for vandalism. And then, of course, there's the sizeable $ $ donation I just made to Knowledge...but who cares? No one remembers the good stuff - just the bad - and *then* they have to make sure they jump on the persecution bandwagon with everyone else so they can put in their two-cents as if it's the most valuable and most important opinion for the most important decision in the world. But, hey - as long as some people get to use Knowledge as their own personal battleground that makes them feel as if they own their own little kingdom within the encyclopedia (I'm not suggesting you are one), I should be happy, right? Whatever. It's just the internet, right...? Feh. --
662:
communication having to be reinterpreted...no. Language is a code that needs to be interpreted by the receiver, however, what you are doing here is interpreting the code and then adding your own definition of what the code really means. You're interpreting the words but then adding to the meaning. That's dishonest and it's unfair to the one trying to communicate with you. I realize that in today's world there are people who no longer speak plainly or with clear meaning - but I'm not one of them. Why do you seem to think that in what I say I have mal-intent behind my words - even if my words on their face don't convey that at all? You did the same thing with tearing apart my reasons for having my talk-archive they way I did. I had them the way I did for the reasons I stated: they were there to keep chronological evidence of a chain of events in case I needed them for future reference. That was all. There was nothing more. There was no "list of wrongs". It was what I said it was. But you refused to believe me, inserted your own prejudices into what I really must have meant, and wouldn't take my word for it. That is wrong. It's unfair to me and it's actually doing a disservice to you in the end.
522:
particular accusation doesn't surprise me (nor will it surprise me when Skag accuses me of something as a result of this posting)" is just not necessary, not NPOV, and downright wrong. The comment you made about me at Rschen's talk page was out of line and POV as well, "She generally chooses to pump accusations back at them instead of arguing the issues, so this particular accusation doesn't surprise me (nor will it surprise me when Skag accuses me of something as a result of this posting)". Was that really necessary? As far as the sockpuppet report, why can't you just let those who investigate sockpuppet reports investigate? Making comments is one thing, but taking it upon yourself to provide information that they probably already have discovered and then adding your editorial comment, "Aside from which the case was very thin to begin with"...you think they can't decide for themselves whether a case is "very thin" or not? As it so happens, I realized myself that I either looked at
Wildhartlivie's posting information incorrectly or incompletely late last night (actually very early this morning) after the report had already been filed. There was not obfuscation or dishonesty involved.
878:. What in the world is that supposed to mean? Are you of the belief that I suggested you take a break because I would see it as benefitting me and my activities in Knowledge? Dude - seriously, you need to get over yourself. My suggestion for you to take the break you keep saying you're going to take had everything to do with you obviously needing to take a break from your compulsion and obsession with Knowledge and the apparent belief that the place just can't do without your assistance. Whether you are still around or not is neither here nor there to me. I'm an established editor who didn't even know you existed here until what? A month-or-so ago? And somehow, prior to a month ago I've been able to actually function without you all that time...go figure. (yes, that was intended sarcasm)
346:
could have been done sooner than after you nominated the page for deletion. When I brought this to your attention, you blew me off with something along the lines of, "I didn't know I needed to state the obvious to you". Yes, indeed, try to assume the best - did you do that with me? I don't think so. As far as a "smidgen of humility" goes...please don't suggest something that neither you, nor anyone else (save the one keep voter) in this whole mess has really taken time to demonstrate. IMO and experience, Knowledge's notice boards have become nothing but kangaroo courts that
Knowledge hypocrites utilize and where they lay in wait to pounce according to their own agendas. Like I said above, no one notices the good, but by golly they are sure there to notice punish the bad. --
310:
and MfD is the appropriate process. The fact that the person who created the page happens to be dealing with personal issues doesn't factor in to how those pages get dealt with. I certainly sympathize with your plight in life, especially when it comes to recent deaths. You seem to have brought that frustration here though. Not that I can really blame you, but still, there's going to be some resulting unavoidable unpleasantness from conducting yourself in a less-than-ideal state of mind. If
Knowledge adds undesired stress to your life, I'd suggest taking a break from it. I've definitely had to do that myself in the past. Knowledge should not be such a priority when you have too many real-life things to deal with already.
3856:]. Since you know the editor, I thought you might be interesting in giving them an idea about what is going on around this editor too. Being a bit cryptic I know but I don't want all the heat that usually follows. It just seems like these administrators could use the full understanding of everything that you are aware of. I've got to go and thought since I've been a target of some of it, that it would be better for someone like you who have only tried to mediate situations to clarify things if you feel this is needed. If not interested, please feel free to ignore. I just think both editors contributions should be looked at to be fair. Hope you are well, --
682:
and viewing them as an annoying presence that doesn't belong in the debate. I've felt like telling people to go mind their own business too on occasion, but on
Knowledge, you've gotta take it all, from everyone. People insert themselves into situations that don't involve them all the time here. That's the essence of the project. It's a collaboration, and we all volunteer wherever we feel like we have something to say or offer. Again: Telling someone to "just stay out of it" or that it's "none of your business" (not direct quotes) is a completely irrelevant, ridiculous and inappropriate gesture on Knowledge, and will never accomplish anything.
2293:
pages, I think it's a good idea to retain the style they set. So in this case, you posted on my page, then I on yours, which set a style, which is "each message on the respective talk page". By moving the entire the thread to mine, you effectively set another, more awkward, style, which is "move the entire thread to each talk page to keep it together." The best would have been for you to just respond on my page, and let me respond on yours. This way we both get message alerts, and the communication is most efficient. Also, posting a comment about an editor "hiding mistakes" is uncivil, even if you think it's true, because it violates
792:. Wrong again. I have learned in my near half-century of life when to speak, when to listen, and when to just completely shut up and/or walk away. There have been plenty of times here in Knowledge (as well as IRL) when I haven't even responded to something someone has said - that I would have been well within my rights to address and respond to - but felt it better to just let it go. Telling someone who has just pointed out something to you that you have difficulty with that they do the same thing is, well...a very immature answer that basically says, "I don't have to change because you have the same problem". Not.
4664:, NeilĀ :) Ludwig, things rarely end up in mediation because both sides mutually say "This is a complicated issue and should probably be mediated." It's generally because people are pissed off and deadlocked. As far as the VP proposal goes, I don't think that belongs at mediation -- a policy proposal either has wide support or it doesn't, and this one didn't. The ejaculation page might possibly benefit from some mediation, but I have my doubts there too. Consensus there appears to fall on inclusion of the content, IMO. I acknowledge I haven't looked thoroughly through the discussion there so I could be wrong.
2385:. There were mostly BLP, 3RR, and "vandalism" summary concerns, all of which could be taken care of by editing the statement for accuracy, which I felt was a good compromise. You should discuss the possible inclusion of the information on the talk page (I just created a section for it), rather than reverting again. I also think it would be a good idea to let my version of the incident remain in the article for some time, so that people can see and base their decision on an accurate version, rather than the bad version that was originally fought over.
840:"You don't only have this problem with me. Whatever I'm doing, everyone else is doing too". Again...really? Can you cite your source for this information or are you, once again, over-generalizing? Children do that too, BTW (over-generalizing) - it's one of the benchmarks in early childhood behavior. Thing is, they usually get over it at by about age 2 1/2. When an adult insists on doing it - it's a definite sign of emotional maturity and the inability to exercise the give-and-take communication necessary in healthy, adult relationships.
754:, and any of the dozens of other Knowledge processes, to test these boundaries you think exist. Provide your input on any, and as many you like, of the discussions you find there. I'm sure they'll all be glad to have you. If you get complaints that you're inserting yourself into matters that don't concern you, you'll know you were right about those boundaries. Most likely though, your participation will be appreciated, because the community is spread rather thin over all these processes, and they need all the input they can get.
6630:
that is not the intention of what I wrote and taken out of context. I have had innumerable teachers and still do, i have a root Guru in body, but that said my principal guru resides in my heartmind in secret aspect and I no longer need a teacher in the way that it was being presented to me is mandatory. It amazes me that a fervent, unaware, bigot has the floor in an
Administrator thread, frightening really that these people are my peers, well nonduality is peerless and I have no fear. thanx for the headzup it was appreciated.
1016:-- "We" are the people who discuss and vote on proposed deletions -- which is everyone. Administrators only make the final call, judging the arguments put forth by regular users. Indeed, if pages were judged purely based on the authors' stated intentions, they would all have to be kept. That's just not how it works. I know because pages get deleted all the time, even when the authors say they didn't mean to do anything that violates policy. I'm not sure why you think that argument should hold up in your case.
31:
490:), at which point I was forced to take a different route. Whether or not I pointed out an alternative option, I tried exhaustively to be diplomatic about this. If you still think I should have handled this better, I think your expectations for this place fall under coddling. It's not everyone else's job to come up with desirable alternatives for you whenever they need to point out a problem to you. If you expect that in every case, you're going to have a terrible time here.
655:
IMO, a healthy sense of boundries and knowing when you should cross one and when you shouldn't. This is particularly evidenced in your seeming compulsive need to insert yourself in discussions that don't necessarily involve you, in providing evidence that would have been found by others in the sock case, in your obsession with
Knowledge, in your feeling that Knowledge somehow needs you specifically, and your seeming need always be right and have the last word.
2405:
understand what you're saying, but you should have looked at the edit history before reverting, otherwise you don't see what is contained in edit summaries. I was a bit miffed that I linked to a couple of guidelines, and hey presto - you reverted it, but if you didn't see it, that's fine. I know it was all in good faith. I agree the best course of action is to allow discussion to continue with the material in the article, so I will not remove it.
1032:-- I'll decide when my butting in is appropriate. Just as you will, and should, for yourself. Again I'm not sure what makes this case different from any of the dozens of processes where both our input would be appreciated. You can go comment on 20 discussions right now that don't involve you at all, and no one would tell you to stop (as long as you made a sincere attempt at providing constructive input, and had something useful to say).
890:. Suspect all you'd like (you seem to have a lot of suspicions about me - why, I haven't the foggiest - more eisegesis, I guess), but you'd again be completely wrong. Be here, don't be here. As I stated above, my suggestion that you leave this place for a while has everything to do with you getting a grip on the reality that the sun still rises whether you see it happen or not, and that Knowledge still functions just fine without you.
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666:
decoded (not your words - but it's what you have demonstrated with me over and over). My suggestion to you is that you really do take that break from
Knowledge (and not just talk about it this time - but seriously do it). From what I've seen, this "addiction" you have to Knowledge and belief that Knowledge needs you is quite unhealthy and has damaged your view of other people, yourself, and the world in general. --
5470:
the way to go; maybe not the best decision I guess. Anyway, as I mentioned above in reply to Woogee, I think we should wait and see if Q continues criticizing you following my explanation to him about usernames. There's really nothing anyone can do in the way of punishing him or preventing him from contacting you right now. If this becomes actual harassment (extended, relentless criticism) then we can take it to
376:, and B) it should have been obvious that although I was asking you to remove things from the page, that I would have had no issue or control with regard to your saving the material locally on your computer. You contest this now, by saying it wasn't necessarily obvious, since you didn't know you couldn't have those things on the page. But as soon as I told you, which was in my very first comment, you knew.
830:. Again, not. Anytime you "interpret" (as you claim you always do when communicating with others) in such a manner that you are totally twisting the meaning of the other communicator and then telling that person what they really meant, that's eisegesis, rather than appropriate exegesis. There's no fine, invisible line there - it's very blatant and it's very wrong (as well as arrogant and self-focused).
479:-- You may, and everyone is always encouraged to, edit the page in question during a deletion debate in order to fix problems (only certain edits are not allowed, like blanking the page or removing the deletion notice). I've already told you this more than once. If the only reason you are waiting to edit the page is because you thought you weren't allowed to, then you have no reason to wait anymore.
4585:
4068:
and
Unitanode was happily doing some good edits the more I saw that block the more unfair it seemed to me. So as talk was ongoing on ANI I unblocked. I don't think that's wheel warring, that's a straight decision reversal. But I take on board the points others have made about discussing the unblock. I do note that I doubt that Unitanode will be blocked again, if he does I will strenuously object! -
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2822:. Those are serious accusations. To be clear, I have also now been accused of harassment and baiting, of reverting without discussion, that I do not try to discuss issues with editors before I take to ANI (which is a point you yourself found lacking) and of disruption to make a point. None of these things are accurate, fair or warranted. This is indeed something that should be reviewed on ANI. -
622:
argued. If you find my comments disparaging, I suppose that's unfortunate, but also unavoidable. I'm not on a campaign to disparage you "all over
Knowledge". In processes that I've been made aware of, I state my honest assessment. If you find my assessments inaccurate, you may post your counter-arguments; but you may not reasonably demand that I stop commenting negatively on your behavior.
780:. Sorry, but everything in life has boundries. The boundries I was speaking to specifically were life boundries, not boundries strictly within the rules and confines of Knowledge. You seem to have a poor understanding of when it's appropriate for you to invite yourself into something happening in Knowledge. IOW - you seem to think you are needed everywhere in Knowledge.
3567:
about advertising the ban proposal and getting enough participation, I should think you'd be glad I took that initiative. Again there was nothing selective or otherwise against policy about my actions, so if you feel anything further needs to be done, you need not suggest I do it for you in rectification of some unknown violation. Do what you feel must be done yourself.
5386:) is now starting to harass me. For what, I don't know but I have absolutely no knowledge on what to do. I think if you looked at my contributions, you can tell I have no need for protection. I attempt to better baseball articles, and that's all I want to do. I feel that it is unproductive for me to have to deal with this nonsense. Hope you can help. Thanks. --
3722:
annoying but FeralDruid, the changing of the blue/purple would be lovely since I too have trouble telling the difference at times. How can I get the color changed in my watchlist so that when I read something it isn't that light purple that is so hard to see? Thanks, (you can take it to my talk or email if you don't want to clutter this talk page,Ā :) )--
6111:
to the now-relevant talk page on the topic. When articles are moved, their talk pages become redirects then too, if that gives us any clue (since merges are a similar action to moves). Anyway I copied the pertinent discussion to the new talk page, so I don't see the need to maintain the old talk page, and would see it as only serving to confuse people.
6669:
misdirection and untrue. It amazes me that a person can escalate a matter to the Administrators' noticeboard when they have no editing history of providing any cited inclusion upon Knowledge. It amazes me that Mitsube lies out of spite and removes appropriate, reputable cited content from articles that I have qualitatively improved. I am perplexed.
3203:
stickler for accuracy is a poor reason for this concern to have come here. A dispute is ongoing and starting up new exchanges doesn't help anyone. I think you know that because you don't seem that stupid. Again: If you weren't actually concerned about this, why did you bring it here? As you say, "seriously, this is looking bad dude."
1479:, but you reverted to a version prior to my good-faith edits. At first, I thought you were purposely being deceptive (and my re-reverting edit summary might reflect that); after further thought, I remembered to AGF and I assume either you didn't realize you were going too far back, or you disagreed with my edits in the first place.
3602:
the credibility of your opponents or technicality of their actions. This crap gets no one anywhere, and that's partly why you're in this mess to begin with. It's the very definition of "muddying the waters". You would do well to re-examine your behavior and take people's suggestions to heart, rather than brushing them all off.
2316:). I apologize. I've been dealing with one too many idiots tonight and got testy. I disagree though on the style thing... Dicussions should generally be kept together so they can be read through easily in the future. I know that's not policy (yet... fingers crossed), but I do have this request in my talk page's edit notice.
5943:
1000:. Your intentions were irrelevant to the deletion discussion. The page's contents alone were the problem. You could've meant to praise the individual in question, it doesn't matter. The contents were a problem nonetheless, and there are plenty of delete votes in the discussion that agree with this assessment.
6648:
who was recently blocked indefinitely, due partly to incessantly communicating via poems even in tense situations. You seem to be headed down a similar road. Just friendly advice. I won't be the one to block you (I don't have the ability), so this shouldn't be seen as any sort of threat. Just advice.
6399:
Well, it's over (for a year). My comments to SRQ were never designed to get her to "freak out" as she and others like to characterize what were attempts at rational conversation; I kind of resent it too. While the many names and judgments were hurled at me often, I never reciprocated. Rather, I've
6024:"Ok" is a complicated word. It's not as simple as "ok" and "not ok". While I'm not necessarily thrilled that there's possibly inaccurate information in the encyclopedia, there's a sliding scale of what kinds of problems warrant which measure of response. You're suggesting sending out a bot to plaster
5907:
I'm not sure where it's stated but the general credo is that policy should be "descriptive, not prescriptive". The merits of that can be debated (it's sometimes pointed out that it's a fallacy, because then you have the question of "what's the purpose in describing...", and the answer invariably ends
5832:
Glad I could help make your experience at least a little satisfying. Sorry about the drama that ensued; you had the misfortune of stumbling into a rivalry between two editors that has been brewing for a long time. Both editors have actually been put on restriction since then, so they basically aren't
5816:
I've been hesitant to start editing for a long, long time, out of fear that Wikipedians were jerks and I would do everything wrong. So I covered my bases all along the way, making comments, waiting a few days for responses, being civil when folks reverted but didn't engage me.... And I still got some
3601:
So again, that's three groundless accusations following my proposed ban on you, four if you include this previous interaction nonsense that neither of us remembered and has no bearing on anything. You'd do a lot better for yourself if you'd discuss the relevant issues rather than attempting to attack
3071:
Thanks. I doubt it'll be accepted as is though. It's not completely clear what particular problem the case is regarding. I don't think ArbCom will want to rule on whether past blocks were right or wrong. A case regarding the future, ie. whether or not Proofreader should be banned, would have a better
2616:
to your page in which you forged my signature and managed to sneak in an unfounded accusation of forum shopping when I was simply looking for any response 10 hours after a post, led to my ending discussion with you. Do not post to me again, your tone and attitude toward me is completely unwelcome and
1870:
they are referring. <- Notice there I could've ended the sentence, "it may be obvious what they are referring to", with the preposition on the end. It's more grammatically accurate to have the object, in this case "what", follow the preposition more immediately. Hope that clarifies things somewhat
598:
I realize that NPOV is for articles, however...it goes without saying that NPOV is part of good faith and that POV and personal editorializing doesn't belong in the Knowledge report process. You want to tell me something about me to my face - do it. But don't start disparaging me all over Knowledge
315:
To clear up the mystery, I was actually on a wiki-break myself, when I was contacted regarding your archive page. Someone felt they were too previously involved to objectively do anything about it (and considering your previous concerns about participants with grudges against you, you should probably
6130:
Thanks for your reply. Redirecting the Talk page is not uncommon, but I disagree that it is general practice. If there is nothing meaningful about the article redirect (e.g. move), it's fine to redirect the Talk page also. Mergers are not the same as moves. A merger creates an attribution dependency
6110:
The policy and help pages are bit vague on this. My understanding is that talk pages of merged articles are generally redirected to the new article's talk page. This is done for the same reason that the article page itself is redirected -- so that if anyone seeks out the old name, they're redirected
6004:
Since you think it's ok for an encyclopaedia to have large numbers of players nationalities listed incorrectly , would you be happy to ignore it if it was their squad number, position, age, height , sexual preference, martial status? Why is it ok for an encyclopaedia to wrong on one set of facts and
5612:
Also, did you notice that somebody tried to re-add that story about a french guy curing gas-gangrene with lavendar oil. It's such a preposterous story but if we could find a source for that I'd love to re-include along with a reference to what gas-gangrene is (the only known cure is amputation).Ā :-)
4850:
Mediation isn't for policy proposals. With a policy proposal, there needs to be a clear demonstration of wide support. Here we have no wide support demonstrated, just a few parties arguing endlessly over it, which doesn't mean there's any more of a chance it has wide support. Mediation is irrelevant
4067:
Look, I'm not at all happy about the ban discussion, but Unitanode still does good work. So do you. Unitanode was readding the tag, and I know that he was trying to remove a personal attack, but he did get warned not to war on this. But given that the block was done for something that had died down,
4041:
I saw, thanks, I just hadn't gotten around to deciding how to respond. I suppose as long as you plan to use the page soon in some process, it's alright. Just keep in mind that SRQ is probably going to continue using its existence against you in the interim, and if it's still up in say another month,
3721:
I don't understand any of the above that the two of you are saying. So being unsavy on the computer would one or both of you care to explain how an idiot like me could do what the two of you are doing? I am on IE7(?) and I really don't care about blocking images though the Jimmy head is definitely
3129:
If that's true then it was years ago. I think it would be a little petty and ridiculous of you to feel such a need or to think it's actually relevant. I'm going to leave it entirely up to you. You can let everyone know if you feel you must; but you should really think about what this need says about
2335:
Apology accepted, thank you. I guess the messaging style is a matter of personal preference. I see a lot of apparent vandalism, and depending on my other ongoing activities, I make a judgment call based on circumstances, deciding whether to just rollback or to pursue it further. The good thing about
1825:
You know, I seem to have a habit of leaving "dangling prepositions", since others have pointed that out as a problem in things I have written before. For the life of me though, I can't seem to get a good explaination for why it's a problem, or what the definition of a "dangling preposition" actually
1497:
My edit wasn't intended to be deceptive at all. The revert was discussed on the talk page. In addition to reasons discussed there, my full revert of the paragraph was because I simply felt the older version was better-worded. I'm not too crazy about having mention of the book in parenthesis, for one
665:
Do you see suspicious behavior and mal-intent and dishonesty in every person you encounter in Knowledge? In life? Do you think that when everyone says to you one thing that they really mean another? It would seem so if you believe "all communications have to be interpreted" and the *real* meaning
621:
I've continually been telling you my thoughts on your behavior directly to your face for quite some time now. NPOV is neither an explicit nor an unwritten rule for Knowledge processes. Expression of points of view and "editorializing" do indeed factor legitimately into disputes. That's how cases are
525:
You keep saying you're going to take a Knowledge break, yet you keep coming back as if the place can't function without your help. It seems to me that you may not only need to take a break from Knowledge, but you need to get over yourself, get over your idea of self-importance in this realm, and get
436:
I can't do anything to the archive page until the issue has a resolution,correct? That's the only reason why I am waiting (and because I seriously *don't* have time to weed through the thing right now - it's Christmas week, remember? - I already told you I would need time to do it. I told you what I
126:
What are you talking about? Mine has parenthesis. It makes all the differenceĀ :) Actually it's no accident... I came across a comment of yours somewhere and fell madly in love with your signature design. I spent a good amount of time trying to merely use cues from it without copying it outright, but
5869:
view of policy - that guidelines are about formally documenting our current practice, rather than providing a prescriptive set of rules governing practice? I'm coming at it from the other end, that guidelines are effectively Knowledge legislation and as such shouldn't be introduced without a clear
5469:
Actually you were notified, by me and another editor -- but I later decided to remove the notices and some useless discussion about what should be done with your user page. The consensus seemed to be that no one should ever have bothered you with that stuff so I thought removing most of it would be
5081:
Thanks. Some of that has been percolating for a while. Other parts of it just came today. I want to wait for the RfC/U until Lar comments on the identification we submitted and (probably) when the AN/I thread has come to a close. An RfC/U will detail the 25 pages that I mentioned where she suddenly
4820:
interestingly, the policy thing seems to be a bit of a vacuum. medcom deals with user problems on specific pages, which doesn't necessarily expand to policy; Arbcom deals with policy, but won't deal with content issues - where do you go for decisions about content policy? but I don't want to keep
4337:
is still sitting around as a result of your laudable but doomed effort to get this editor on track. You are the only author of the page (well, almost), it's kind-of a GFDL vio, and it's cluttering up the what-links-here tables. Do you still want it there or can I nuke it as house-cleaning? Or maybe
2404:
That's fair enough. I did not intend reverting you, and I have commented on the talk page. The main basis of the ANI report was about the relevance of the content rather than the sourcing - everything kind of flowed on from that, but it was buried in a lot of diffs and extra information. I can
708:
I'm sure you'd love it if I took that break (you might get your wish), but suspect you'd be singing a different tune if I had "inserted myself" on your side in these cases instead. Get used to people butting in on your business. Take it in and argue the issues with them, rather than telling them to
560:
Stop complaining whenever someone says something you don't like. It's getting really irritating. Argue the issues like an adult, rather than crying "why'd you have to say that?!?!" every time. For the umpteenth time: People will say things you don't like. There's no policy against that, so get used
389:
You still know, and yet you're still unwilling to do anything about it. You've essentially acknowledged the problem, but you're instead waiting for someone to force action as a result of the MfD. You're not interested in peaceful resolution. You're not interested in being remotely constructive. You
345:
As I stated the other day, you could have handled this a whole lot better than you did. Suggesting I take what was there and keeping it on my own computer (which I never even considered because I didn't think I had to hide any of it since I didn't know what I was doing was a violation of any kind)
309:
That starts with your calling my nomination of your page a "charge". I'm not charging you with anything. I saw a page that violates policy, I asked you to fix it, you refused, so I nominated it. It wasn't personal and it wasn't even a commentary on you. It's just a page that needs to be dealt with,
295:
You have to understand that the place has rules; rules that you might not completely understand yet. Your response when people inform you that you're infringing on any of those rules has been to lash out at them, which has, I think, created a more stressful situation for everyone than need be. When
279:
I just want to take the time to thank you for bringing this added stress to my world at this time of year. I have a hard enough time dealing with Christmas since a close relative has died, add to that the fact that I just attended on Monday yet another funeral of another close friend. You know, I
6668:
Noted. You are the first editor for quite some time that I have encountered on Knowledge that is good-natured. I am not eccentric, I am a straight shooter. I am really focused on theology but I'm not preachy. Most of the dross that the editors were talking about in regards to me is misattribution,
5743:
You should move it yourself. There seems to be some agreement that the report doesn't belong at ANI, so eventually someone might take the initiative and move your report(s) off that page, but you can do it yourself. I would start by moving them onto a subpage in your user space, so you can work on
5588:
Thanks. I'd be open to putting that info in in some form, as long as it's sourced; but even then, it really shouldn't be the defining paragraph of the article. We shouldn't be defining things based on a judgment of them. Although many forms of alternative medicine are sold as unregulated products,
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You know, the way you used it gave an idea that maybe solves a problem. In your page I can only see a portion of it. Is it because you are using a version of it or is it because there is a way of showing a portion of an image. I'm interested in doing the latter. Having a picture uploaded show only
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Notifying those who participated in the first AN thread seemed unnecessary, as it seemed likely they were already watching the page. It wasn't selective. I made no distinction based on who was on which side. I sought to notify people only to ensure that those who might not be watching the AN page,
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I apologise. "Revert" was a very poor way to express my thoughts, and I'm glad you pointed that out. "Revert" is a very specific word and it's very loaded and I used it carelessly. What you did was fine, although I didn't see it that way at first, to be honest. Thanks for pointing out that
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Spoke too soon. The RFC bot removed my closing font tag. I have an irregular signature, with a formatted date, so that may be why. I hope the font doesn't bother people too much, because I don't know if there's anything we can do about it, short of changing my signature or asking the bot author to
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I wasn't suggesting that because everyone else makes bad communication choices that I can as well. I'm saying that rather than characterizing other people's choices as poor, examine your own. "Everyone" was an exaggeration, but you've had this problem with multiple people. I could provide diffs if
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Re. The last word -- It was immature of you to begin with to basically say "stop trying to get the last word in" when you're doing the same thing yourself. I was just pointing that out. Your viewing this as needing to "right a wrong" basically applies to everyone who tries to get the last word in.
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There's no boundary. I provided evidence to the case, and whether or not you think that evidence was obvious is irrelevant. IMO, your opinion that I've crossed boundaries stems from my having a point of view that opposes your own. There's a thin line between viewing someone as disagreeing with you
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First of all, I want to briefly address your claim that I was believing there is a "rule" about who can and can't take part in a sock investigation. My point was never about a "rule", but about boundries. You seem to have a problem with understanding your boundries in Knowledge. You don't have,
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But, beyond all of this, I do want to apologize for taking my frustration out on you. I still wish you had handled things a little better - maybe along the lines of giving me some options other than what I read to be, "do it my way or else I'm reporting you" Honestly, I don't know a whole lot of
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Barring such proof, I'm now through trying to help you, and I'm done being polite with you. I'm sorry for whatever life events have brought you to your current state of mind, but won't feed your need for drama. Find someone else. If you want to reply once more, make it good, because it will be the
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flowery obscuration, love it. being linked with cults, wonderful. and my dear wikipedian-collegiates wonder why I rarely enter into conversation with such bland stupidity, all of them, those MOANING, have justly had their egos branded by the Hummingbird, this is true. as for not having a Teacher,
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for that rather than just doing it and attempting to convince one person at a time. If people generally agree with you in a centralized discussion then maybe the practice can change, but I believe things are the way they are for good reason, and I think consensus for change should be demonstrated
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Due to the lengthy discussions already undertaken, and continuing abuse past the wikiquette report, I do not think further discussion will do any good. As an alternative, I greatly shortened my report and refiled it at ANI. Since this involves long-term and escalating abuse, and teaming up of the
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I think starting a administrator notice board discussion about me, then editing my user page, and finally coming dangerously close to threatening me on my talk page are some signs of harassment. I also think that I should have been notified that there was a discussion about me by some one. I just
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I actually copied this code from someone else's page where I saw it done. It looks like the image is enclosed in a "div" with a "width" specified that's smaller than the image, and "overflow:hidden" specified. It might be possible to create a template that does this, but it would be a complicated
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I haven't been up to speed on the SRQ/JoyDiamond rivalry, and never really was, aside from a couple of isolated article disputes. Until SRQ got blocked I thought it had been completely replaced by the SRQ/Wildhartlivie rivalry. I don't really have any useful input to contribute in that discussion
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I haven't tried the video, but remember, the video itself isn't all that important. The text of the article is what's most important to us. The reference you inserted doesn't contain any actual report of the incident, as far as I saw; it just had the video clip, which wouldn't source the incident
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No, I was not trying to hide any facts. I am not even sure it was a mistake, since the combination of the vandalism filter, excessive length, and the misformatting made it seem like a vandalism edit, of which I revert quite a few. As a general point, when you communicate with others on their talk
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That's never been a problem for me here. In fact, that's never been a problem for me in a lot of areas of my life. As someone who grew is a former Marine as well as someone who spent a lot of years working in corporate business, I don't have a problem with people scrutinizing what I do. What I
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Whatever people are doing, whether you want to call it misinterpreting or "adding meaning" (a very fine and almost invisible line separating those), it's something everyone does here. You don't only have this problem with me. Whatever I'm doing, everyone else is doing too, and in the end you have
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Your age has nothing to do with it. Many people don't like ultimatums; but if a concern has merit, you still need to address it, even if you don't like the way it was put to you. Push back at the person if you must, but at the same time acknowledge the problem and do your part to try and fix it.
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for. With respect, you say this would be your first ANI report, so you should listen to people who are more experienced with it. You will have a much greater chance of success at RFC. People don't want to read very much at ANI, and you're not likely to get very much participation from uninvolved
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Good edits on that article, it's slowly becoming vaguely readable!Ā :-) My only qibble is that Aromatherapy may be a form of alternative medicine, however 95% of the public's interraction with it is via consumer products. The key thing is that aromatherapy is a non-regulated term which means that
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You're allowed to think that. I, however, think you're wrong. Canvassing policy allows for the notification of parties indiscriminately on both sides of a debate if the notification is worded neutrally. And I'm sorry you now think it was out of order, but since you were the one who was concerned
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watchlist your talk page and don't much care who posts there. I simply posted to you that I didn't upload the Black Dahlia image and asked you to notify the original uploader. It wasn't an argument, it wasn't a debate and I didn't much appreciate the argumentative nature of your responses to me,
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What is your problem? Now you're gossipping about me all over Knowledge because you and I didn't see eye to eye on a few things? Making editorial comments like you did (on the sockpuppet report page), "She generally chooses to pump accusations back at them instead of arguing the issues, so this
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Honestly, I have been studiously avoiding the ejaculation page because I am tired of squabbling with people fruitlessly (I don't mind squabbling fruitfully, mind you, but there has to be some progress for it to be worthwhile). I think the idea itself will eventually need to go to mediation - I
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involving off-wiki activities, which was ambiguous, groundless and also untrue; and now of canvassing, which has also been shown to be untrue. In addition you seem to have accused me of not fully disclosing our previous history, when our only contact was a dispute that occurred years ago, which
2366:. Rewriting the information so that it accurately reflects what is reported in the source material is well and good but why would you override my edit summary without even commenting on it? I gave a specific reason for removing the information but you haven't given a reason for restoring.
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one way or the other about the video or the Ann Rule book on the judgeās comments. This note is to let you know about this discussion so that if you wish you can voice your opinions. Itās time to put this dispute to rest so hopefully a real consensus will show up for one or the other of these
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You ended up overgeneralizing and making claims about me that are patently false. I have never said to you or anyone else in Knowledge that others have "misinterpreted communications" or that "everyone continually misinterprets" me. That is complete falsehood. As far as your understanding of
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To sum up, even people who make valuable contributions have to follow the rules, and while I sympathize with your situation, a smidgen of effort towards humility on your part would really go a long way. We're not out to get you. Try to assume the best rather than the worst intentions, even when
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Actually, yes it does. The logic is perfectly clear. My point was not so much that aromatherapy is defined by it's lack of regulation but that aromatherapy is really more about the non-regulated products than it is an alternative medicine. It's not a very important point in the grand scheme of
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specifically approved, and was commented on when the table was approved. The table heading was changed to wikitable format when it was brought up and I have never seen anyone comment or complain about it, or use other prior to Jack Merridew's involvement. Consensus was for 90% and 95%, which I
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resent being talked down to and disregarded because anyone thinks I'm incapable of understanding and blatantly says so. If you mean "whining" instead of "whinging", my complaints are valid, even if Lar didn't care to deal with it. And we still aren't mentioning that changes he made implemented
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Yes, I know what you said. I'm asking why you brought it here if you weren't actually concerned with it. Tbsdy, your behavior continues to suggest your priorities don't actually lie with a peaceful resolution, but rather with extending the fight. There was no reason to bring this here. Being a
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That's fine. Yeah I'm very aware of the problems with the essay as I was a big proponent of deleting it in the first nomination (the only reason I didn't comment on the second nom was that I wasn't aware of it). The page can be blanked, I can just use the history, and will of course avoid any
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What slurs? This is about a template removal. It belongs at the article talk page. If someone makes characterizations of another editor as a result of that discussion, that's not a reason to go to ANI -- unless you're calling for sanctions regarding the slur itself. If you want to resolve the
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It doesn't really matter what people claim about what they see in a video, if we have a reliable source where the incident is reported. As long as we have that, users' interpretations of the video are pretty much irrelevant. That's why the text reports are so important -- they make it so that
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I'd never describe an unblock as "unfair", since the only person it might hurt is the blocking admin. It might be "unwise" though if it allows someone to continue disruption etc. If you're asking if the block was warranted to begin with, I don't have any position on that, as I stated at ANI.
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That's what I meant by an '...Com' vacuum. This is an issue that has (potentially) broad implications for the nature of wikipedia - i.e. is wikipedia as a whole going to give the appearance of being a bit stuffy or a bit skanky? - but everyone is so reactive about the issue that meaningful
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Thanks. Just as a minor point, I didn't exactly revert you. I inserted an entirely new summary of the event. When someone comes to ANI complaining of a revert war, the last thing I'd generally do is revert again. That's why I made the effort to craft a new paragraph -- so as to specifically
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Thank you for supporting the suggestion for improvement to the logo and/or tag line ("...that anyone can edit"). This is just to remind you that the thread still exists and that someone asked if we want to draft a proposal. As nobody has replied I'm afraid you forgot about it. It's at
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and not just delete their comments, even the ones you find irritating. Show that you can rise above, take an "argumentative" comment and fire back with a cool-headed answer. Let's act as though we were adults, or even diplomats. Rise above. Show that you're more mature than the other
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Hey, guess what? People are allowed to comment on, and even provide evidence for, things that don't directly involve them. That's the essence of a collaborative volunteer project. We all pitch in. People are going to make comments you don't like, and you're gonna have to real used to
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Hi Equazcion, I noticed the editor counter on your user page, noting the number of editors watching your page. I had the tool for it, but can't remember were it was, the last count I got was 79. Do you have the tool? If possible could you post it on my talk page? Thanks in advance,
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The truth is I'm not really sure. My take would be that if the article is just stating something that happened in a video, then using that video as a reference is probably okay. In this particular case I'm not sure that the site the video is posted on really matters. It's more of a
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Take care of yourself - and do consider a serious vacation from here (for all the reasons I stated previously - nothing more, nothing less). Unless we interact in regard to an article or something else Knowledge-article/issue-only related, this is the last you will hear from me.
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My response here to you lying and misrepresenting me is not a compulsion nor evidence of anything other than I am not someone who allows others get away with blatant dishonesty. Posting here had nothing to do with me needing the last word - it had everything to do with righting a
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It's not for Arbcom either. I think they'd reject the case as forum shopping, if you presented them with your policy proposal. If it didn't gain enough support at the venue where it was originally presented, Arbcom isn't going to let you try pushing it through there instead.
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Thank you for alerting me to the discussion, Equazcion. Please don't forget you're supposed to notify editors who have expressed disagreement with you also, as well as those in agreement. (If you're simply notifying everybody who's commented at all, then that's OK, too.)
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Someone smart decided the discussion @ ejaculation should be archived since it's not getting anywhere, to which DMS responded by carrying on his points at the VP page. In the interest of truly closing the matter I carried the archival over to VP. I agree, there certainly
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where they'd like to complain, and try your best to resolve the issue outside ANI first. If you're that bothered by "false accusations", to the point that you feel they all belong at ANI? Then you've got a major misconception, and I think you need to grow a thicker skin.
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And Chowbok, as I said on your talk page, if someone has deleted your comment twice, just stop posting to their talk page. Just because you have the right to post there doesn't mean it's a super idea. You of course realized you were annoying her, so just answer her on
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Ha, surely. It's simply when you leave a preposition on the end of a sentence (or sentence fragment). Prepositions are supposed to link two objects together, so on the end of a sentence they are seen as a problem to grammar freaks like me, though it may be obvious
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A "decision reversal"? That seems like a pretty original synonym for "disagreement". I'm glad you'll be taking the advice in the future about discussing unblocks first, as I'm pretty sure that's a policy or guideline somewhere. Might be best to leave it at that.
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Thanks, hopefully this is the end but I doubt it is as sad as that seems. I don't think the mediation will be used since it's more than two editors disagreeing never mind I doubt the one will be accepting more interactions. Still, thanks for taking the time,
6361:" I won't make a comment there again. I missed all of this, having just got on WP today for the first time in days. I don't know how a community-banned user can continue launching personal attacks on a page owned by the project; doesn't seem right to me...
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The afd discussion can be found through the merge tag on the destination page, along with the redirect and attribution. It sounds to me like you're recognizing the general practice but trying to change it, and I really think you should start a discussion at
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I wanna thank you too Equazcion for your help in notifying me. I sent you an email since I had problems with my user page. Please do notify me when you read it and tell me if there is a problem with the user account. Thank you in advance and all the best!
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It probably should have in the first place - it's not a subject people are inclined to be reasonable about on either side. but it would have been nicer if it went there on the merits rather than because people are getting pissed off at each other.
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I remembered you from something-or-other. Look, you've not gone through dispute resolution on this, I don't really appreciate it and I'd have thought you experienced enough now to know that you are escalating something that has now come to an end. -
6034:-type tags on a lot of articles just because the little flags next to players' names could be unsourced. I can't justify that response to the given problem, and from my experience here I really doubt that proposal is going to gain consensus. Sorry.
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At any rate, I accept your apology. If you don't have the time to fix the page within the next 2 or 3 days, then I suggest you copy the page code to a local text file in that time, because the chances look good that it will be deleted. Good luck.
6297:, and I know next to nothing about Linux nor do I even have any Linux machines to test with, so dealing with that would be more trouble for me. I've been waiting for some more experienced developer to take an interest (I once had a section at
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Most people wouldn't say "I'm just trying to get the last word in". "The last word" is an external characterization of the behavior. You don't realize you're doing it, but you are. I'm doing it too at the moment. The difference is, I admit it.
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Thanks for taking the time out to nip a conflict in the bud! You didn't have to put in the work but, since you did, things have calmed down and you came up with a great solution to please both parties. You deserve this for your time! Cheers,
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You suggested my report would be better as a RFC. Is moving it there something I should do now, or so wait for further input. Or does an administrator move it. This is my first ANI filing and it would be my first RFC. Please advise. Thanks.
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for any gross image that someone has a hard-on for (and can justify in some trivial way), and I don't think reasoned voices will ever make any headway on that. I'm just trying to decide whether I'm currently up to the task of pushing it.
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The coding for Firefox addons seems sort of convoluted to me, so even the simple features of the current version were a real uphill battle to get working. Also, my last revision got blocked at Mozilla pending my fixing a bug present under
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On a point of information, Tbsdy when reclaiming admin tools stated that he had not retired under a block, when in fact he had. I hope he will extend the same understanding to others with less than perfect recall that was extended to him.
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Why? I asked if you feel this must be disclosed and you said "no, not at all". So then why was it so important as to risk further inflammation of the situation by contacting someone you're arguing with yet again? Explain it to me, please.
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I can try. How's he harassing you? Are you just referring to what he's saying on your talk page, or is there more? If so link me to the other pages where he's been harassing you. I left a comment on your talk page regarding his concerns.
5862:(a) While we're disagreeing, I really respect the calibre of your argument and your contributions on Knowledge generally and it's a pleasure to debate with someone like yourself. (That goes for the other contributors on the thread too.)
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backlash. Anyway, it was nice of you to respond to me kindly on the Atkins talk page. I was actually hoping for some interaction, and while I didn't get what I was hoping for, at least one or two of you were helpful. Ok, gushings over.
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Again...really? So assume good faith is only for newbies and then once you get your footing in Knowledge you just forget all about it? Funny...I see others in Knowledge (non-admins and admins alike) taking others' word for it all the
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people at my age (45+) who take to that kind of a demand well unless it's work related. Unfortunately, you were in the way of my great frustration and ended up being a target. I hope you can accept my sincere and humble apology. --
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This canvassing claim is roughly the third ill-considered accusation you've brought against me. You've accused me of not waiting the requested 24 hours before posting my proposal, which was shown to be untrue; you've accused me of
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I never said this. I asked you to clarify the fact that you said you have never had any interaction with me. I was trying to give you a chance to do this yourself! That offer is still open. Seriously, this is looking bad dude. -
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Note: The arbs are quickly declining, but as I just got unblocked today I did go ahead and add some documentation which includes that collapsed topic in which I addressed questions to you. I have also included a partial quote
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still, I do hate those presumptuous closures - they are the kind of thing that almost invariably lead to nasty thoughts and comments. doesn't look good at all form any perspective (except maybe that of the closer).
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Also note: Newyorkbrad changed his mind from decline to accept because he believes a motion rather than a case might address my behavior. Some arbs were following his lead, but it appears this version of the case is
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it to be, it can still be a violation. "Believing you" or "taking your word for it" was irrelevant. If we had to take everyone's word for it whenever their pages were threatened with deletion, nothing would ever get
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From My Preferences, above, select Appearance. I'm using the Vector appearance, and use the aforementioned CSS to hide the image. I don't know if it'll work for the other appearances, as I haven't tested it.
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TP. There is a dispute there between two editors which you know. I am about to go there myself but if you have the time and/or energy, your opinions could be useful to the discussion. Hope to see you there,
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After tolling up the votes in the revision proposals, it emerged that 5.4 had the most support, but elements of that support remained unclear, and various comments throughout the polls needed consideration.
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Yes but as you point out this can end the documentation crap. It's a means to a end. He can make his case here or shut up at which point a better case can be made for disruptin if he doeesn't take the hint.
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Again: Collaborative project. We volunteer our opinions wherever we can. In certain other areas of life you can expect that only qualified or previously-involved individuals will involve themselves, but not
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found yourself being misinterpreted and having to "correct" people and admonish them for their "assumptions". After a certain amount of that you should think about whether it's really everyone else's fault.
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No problem, glad I could be of service. If I can be of further service, I would suggest toning down your eccentricities while on-wiki, if possible. Because if not, it may really end up costing you. We had
2648:. Though you have the right to delete things off your talk page, it would make it easier on everyone, and show you're willing to work with people, if you'd be prepared and willing to carry on the exchange
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Thanks -- I've actually already got it hidden using FF3/Adblock/Element Hiding Helper though. Very handy to basically instantly hide any element on any web page permanently. Thanks for the tip thoughĀ :)
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rationale detailing their necessity. If you're able to point to documentation showing that your view of the role of guidelines is the Knowledge-preferred one it could very quickly end our disagreement.
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No problemĀ :) Yeah formal writing is all I meant; rest assured I make those grammar "errors" myself all the time in conversation etc. Your edits really fixed up that article too, by the way. Nice job.
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Knowledge editors don't have to argue over what they see and don't see.Ā :-) It is good to have a link to the video clip, but it's not as important as the textual report from a reliable publication.
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Um, Chowbok, I asked you to stop posting to my talk page. Is Equazcion the person to whom everyone complains? I responded to your posts and stopped and would appreciate it if you would stop. I do
1293:' because it was the entire message from the band's website. Quoting a thing in its entirety seems extensive to me. The same amount of text from a larger work wouldn't have concerned me. Regards,
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Anyway, thanks for the complimentsĀ :) ...and for amending your position. The best collaborators are the ones who are actually open to the possibility of changing their opinions, which is rare.
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neither of us actually recalled. Muddying the waters with groundless concerns is part of your behavior issue, Tbsdy, and I hope you think seriously about how you handle disputes in the future.
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allowed to talk to each other anymore. That should hopefully make the Atkins article a little more welcoming in the future. If you need anything feel free to let me know and I'll try to help.
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Thanks for trying to help. She won't listen and came with the assumption of bad faith and didn't even check out what it was all about. But thanks for trying to talk some sense into her. --
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Thanks. Well, as I really don't have any experience with this, I've come to the conclusion that it'll be better to let you do it. Hopefully, you will find time for this soon. Thanks again.
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Having two talk pages for discussion of the same content is what might be confusing, and I don't see any need for it. The tag on the destination talk page is enough to address attribution.
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use wikitable style. All that was necessary was to say that, rather than be told I'm too stupid to understand it. The sizing is used on the preponderance of tables on actor articles. And I
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If, in fact, you disagree with my work, please let me know, and please try to improve the writing, or suggest how I could do so, rather than simply reverting to an older version. ThanksĀ :)
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You can nuke it, by all means; no reason to keep it around. Based on the name, and the comment at the rollback request page, I'd say they are indeed the same user, so, good block I sayĀ :)
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discussion is largely impossible. I suppose ArbCom would be the better choice, except I suspect that any attempt to present it will get misrepresented as a content dispute and rejected.
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references. If not interested, please feel free to just ignore. I am notifying every editor that I see on the talk page who has been in the recent discussions. Thanks for your time, --
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So have you. The official Korn website uses the character, so it's probably safe to use it in our article. Also see the talk page and make any pertinent arguments there, please. Thanks.
1696:. We appreciate your contributions, but the nominator doesn't believe that the article satisfies Knowledge's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in his/her nomination (see also
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edit to WHL's talk by Versageek is the correct one. Apologies for any confusion. Please do everyone involved the courtesy of acknowledging there that your request has been satisfied. ++
812:"Whatever people are doing, whether you want to call it misinterpreting or "adding meaning" (a very fine and almost invisible line separating those), it's something everyone does here."
5159:" is not needed as what follows are th-elements and they get centered by the class, too. This whole mess was started by WHL messing up the code when, ironically, she changed it to 95%
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That's ok, but you are thinking along the same lines as I am. Anyways, I thought you would want to know to sort of stay in the loop of things. No problem though, I do understand, --
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Your opinions on whether the article meets inclusion criteria and what should be done with the article are welcome; please participate in the discussion(s) by adding your comments to
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Thanks. I'm pretty busy this week, so I won't be able to give this much attention. I'll try to read through it and comment at some point (if I think it has some chance of helping).
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clearly and concisely, while providing a convincing argument for why it would be an improvement. Check out the other proposal discussions on that page to see what they look like.
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would do - telling me I am "unwilling" is completely inaccurate and unfair considering that from what I understand I'm not to do anything to the page until the issue is resolved.
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I've provided a copy of SRQ's talk page so admins can review her unblock request without the Jimbo pic that has thus far prevented it. I just commented on it at her talk page.
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applies even in userspace. You can restore the language that's fine, but I'd say do not use the first paragraph with his name. Not that I'll be watching really though =) --
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Gotcha! That's a good succinct explaination, thanks! I'd argue about the applicability of that as a rule, but... now that I think about it, it's probably a good rule of thumb
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out, look at the edit under history. Interesting eh, obviously false but most probably one of the founding myths of aromatherapy. Now if only a WP:R citation can be found. --
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Again, you're excusing your bad behavior and poor choices in communicating with others by using a child's answer: "everyone else does it so it must be okay!"...? Good grief.
4352:)? Speaking of which, could you take a look at that account? I skipped the SPI step 'cause it's really quite obvious they're the same, but always nice to have confirmation.
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I notified everyone who participated at the ANI thread and the article talk page thread. None were spared. Check my contribs and compare against the names in those threads.
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which included charging me with hunting down your posts to verify that you'd notifed Jennavecia, so thus, I do not want you to continue to post to me. Your comment you left
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thing. Parenthesis should generally be avoided, and the book is a prominent enough aspect of the event that it shouldn't be treated as a sidebar. I'm open to ideas.
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Since the sock case is now closed, and I cannot defend myself against the falsehoods in your last statement to me there, I will have to do so here.
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Hi Equazcion, I tried the ref you added to gibson , and it did not work. It saysĀ :"sorry the video is not available" Does it work for you?Thanks.--
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I know, thanks. If you check my contribs you'll see I've basically alerted everyone who participated at the article talk page and the ANI thread.
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I'm not gonna be the one to make that call. Those probably are personal attacks, but I'll wait for someone else to notice it. You can notify
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I don't see why she can post to my talk page but I can't do likewise. Anyway, she's apparently stopped, so I'll stop, as I said I would. ā
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No problem. I actually can't find any email from you though. I see you've posted a response on your talk page so I'll have a look there.
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showed an interest. The Kate Winslet appearance was over the top. Appreciate your comments and I have through the whole discussion.
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portions of it in different articles without having to upload different files with the different crops. Do you know how to do that?
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No problem, though I'm not sure if I'd call it trying to talk sense into her. I've tried that before and it didn't get anywhere.
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Hi, there is an important email I sent to you this morning. Well important to me.Ā :) Just want to make sure you see it. --
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I see, thanks. I believe the video is important also because some people claimed they watched the video and heard nothing. --
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with prescribing action to someone in some sense...), and are, endlessly, but it's still what we go by, at least for now.
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Another discussion with outside input is a good idea. I'll leave a note here if/when I start one. Thanks for your time.
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Hi. Where can I find about Knowledge's policy about racism? I mean, not racism against users but in articles.
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Now, back to the final claims you made about me in the sock-case comments.
913:"It'll save you a lot of grief, on Knowledge, and in the world in general"
828:"adding meaning" (a very fine and almost invisible line separating those)"
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Knowledge:Guide to deletion#You may edit the article during the discussion
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already know more than the more experienced people here, and that they're
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It's ok! I'm glad that you like it. You're the second one I've caught!Ā :)
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I'm just trying it on, might still change it again. Great photo though.
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It does seem that wayĀ :) Though saying so would be rightly viewed as
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but who nevertheless might have an interest, could come participate.
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very seriously. It may be deleted soon, unless we can determine the
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if you want, as he's the admin who's been dealing with her mostly.
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You should be aware that your name came up in a complaint filed at
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Thank you very much for your help and assistance in this article.
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Yes. There's no child porn in the talk page comments you removed.
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that's not their defining characteristic. Hope that makes sense.
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I'm not sure why you're telling me all this, but thanks I guess.
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Probably not, but it's a nice thoughtĀ :) In my opinion we've all
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always tried to stick to the issues, as is clearly evidenced in
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Thanks for the explanation Jack. I replied at WHL's talk page.
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Community de-Adminship - finalization poll for the CDA proposal
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If you have any questions, please feel free to ask them at the
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I just feel that editors need recognition when they work hard.
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MediaWiki talk:Common.css/Archive 9#Header color in wikitables
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of the file. If you know this information, then you can add a
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policy dispute would be quite interesting to put together. --
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Long-term abuse is exactly what RFC is for, and what ANI is
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anybody is free to their product an aromatherapy product. --
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Knowledge talk:WikiProject Actors and Filmmakers#Filmography
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for an idea on how you might hide it from within Knowledge.
851:"Believing you" or "taking your word for it" was irrelevant.
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of the following occurred simultaneously: A) you did indeed
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Knowledge:Articles for deletion/Knowledge Generation Bureau
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and would be happy to make up every fact about a playerĀ ?
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Hey, thanks for the comments on my talk page. I feel that
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British date style to an American biography, contrary to
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for input, as his userpage is where I got the code from.
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I'll be making the same request again. Good luck though.
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I take it we'll all live happily ever after as well? :P
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Thanks! Always nice to know my work is appreciatedĀ :)
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Accusations of self-aggrandizement and violations of
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Mention at ArbCom RfAR (appears dead case, but fyi)
3499:). Ludwig is at none of those, as far as I can see.
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Hey, I noticed you reverted a disputed paragraph in
5865:(b) So I'm clear, your argument is essentially the
2336:WP is that if you get it wrong, it's easy to undo.
6198:I would like to restore/add the tags I mentioned.
5286:You might be interested in this prior discussion:
3495:), and an ANI notice thread on Giano's talk page (
2646:as this one did, with each of you replying 3 times
1898:. Nice work copy editing what I added, by the way.
1581:Nevermind. Thanks for your help until now though.
5723:Question re:ANI report on Tom Reedy and Nishidani
900:"Get used to people butting in on your business."
5421:Q's comments on Brian's page are over the pale.
4945:well, as I said, I'm considering my options. --
4614:Sigh. How much you wanna bet this will go up to
2971:Just FYI I moved the relevant "general" text to
263:Knowledge:WikiProject Administrator/Admin Recall
404:last time I allow you to post on my talk page.
259:Knowledge talk:Community de-adminship/Draft RfC
6005:not an other? Maybe you just don't believe in
2881:Since you have just asked here is your answer
730:PS. Regarding the boundaries, I invite you to
6797:Hi, just FYI, a proposal has been posted at:
4338:you want to move it over to her new account,
2910:but only if it is courtesy blanked for now.
1871:-- I'm not great at explaining these things.
876:"I'm sure you'd love it if I took that break"
5320:Knowledge:Requests for permissions/Confirmed
4282:as uncontroversial: I made no histmerge, as
3973:"I bet they made fun of you in high school .
547:Another correction for you: NPOV applies to
5674:Equazcion Do you know what child porn is?
4554:no reason to get "pissy" about it, Ludwig.
1320:was listed, if you are interested. Thanks.
6483:with that crap weād let some other people
5264:Not that I know about. It's the size that
4292:Knowledge talk:Trading card game/archive/1
4288:Knowledge talk:Trading card game/Archive 1
257:You are invited to join the discussion at
6075:Hi. Would you explain why you redirected
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5670:Equazcion Do you know what child porn is?
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5151:The table declaration is malformed; the
3852:Hi, I thought you might have some input
2452:. I appreciate you letting me know.
2448:was the wrong page. I was thinking of
1751:Hi, could use your opinion over at the
1728:This is an automatic notification by a
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6551:From Portugal, keep up the good work,
6404:lengthy discussion. If attempting to
6359:harbinger of negativity and disruption
6095:}} would also be appropriate. Thanks.
5141:Hi. The core bit of bad code is this:
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3750:Moving over to Crohnie's talk page. -
1204:Have I captured the source guidelines
44:Do not edit the contents of this page.
2799:template issue, ANI isn't the place.
1152:. Thanks again for your cooperation.
374:"know what doing was a violation..."
6188:Special:WhatLinksHere/Talk:Coke mini
5888:- Never mind, a quick re-reading of
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4210:No problem, I'd glad you like itĀ :)
3410:Show me the diff where you informed
3318:I think it would be for the best. -
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1605:Apologies, that was the wrong diff.
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5744:making them into an RFC (or RFCs).
4237:is beautiful. Just wanted to say.
2930:reference to the person. ThanksĀ :)
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6177:WP:Articles for deletion/Coke mini
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107:Is strikingly similar to mine!Ā ;)
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6604:No, you didn't cut anything out.
2358:I removed the information citing
2179:been poisoned by those fairytales
6545:Hi there EQUAZCION, VASCO here,
6479:I figured instead of filling up
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4168:Hi, I've sent you an email.Ā :(--
2988:Thanks very much to you bothĀ :)
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265:. Best Wishes for the Holidays,
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6684:Village pump thread, forgotten?
3770:Eh, can you explain this edit,
2753:, accusing me of harassment. -
2060:That's sound a chara, thanks --
1257:going on to see if there is a
1150:media copyright questions page
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5167:and the further whinging at
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275:Just wanting to thank you...
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6182:Accidentally navigating to
4392:I came by to thank you for
3848:Since you know about things
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1692:. The nominated article is
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488:"the rest of it is staying"
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6000:Where do you draw the line
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1422:Since my talk page is busy
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5951:The Barnstar of Diligence
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2206:You have been reverted. (
1970:The Barnstar of Diplomacy
1966:
1834:if you could explain it!
1715:with four tildes (~~~~).
1314:WP:WQA#User:Wildhartlivie
129:board of signature review
6829:Thanks, I've commented.
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5293:and the current one at:
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5169:User talk:Lar#Your note
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4189:Well, one nice thing...
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814:Baloney. "Everyone"...
6071:Redirecting Talk pages
5243:Tom Cruise filmography
5137:the filmographies code
4309:Understood, thanksĀ :)
3052:You may be interested/
2908:User:Equazcion/Plaxico
2703:Ping you have mail, --
2084:Problem with your sig?
1685:
1136:image description page
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191:I've responded there.
2466:No problem at allĀ :)
1821:Dangling prepositions
1720:articles for deletion
1702:What Knowledge is not
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304:trying to attack you.
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