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No attitude here, EVula. You are the one who went on the unconstructive tangent about this being
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Hey, I don't understand why the page I created was deleted. It was about a band, that was featured on a compilation album (Which was one of the requirements). Not to mention these guys have been featured on numerous college radio stations. And were on a
Mainstream radio station. So yea, what the
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And the
Knowledge policy behind your post can be found where? I'm not trying to maintain a "directory of interwikis for every other foreign Knowledge". I'm am simply trying to provide redirects to tennis articles in French Knowledge that are unlikely ever to be written in English Knowledge.
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speaker who speaks only
English", then why does Knowledge policy specifically allow links to foreign language Knowledge articles? I find it hard to understand why a redirect to a foreign language Knowledge article is prohibited given that links to the same article are allowed.
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post? There's no need for the attitude, I'm just pointing out that the average
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if the page is left unprotected. And I wouldn't call it one off if you look at that page's history that happens almost every day now. By protecting it for an hour (or even 30 minutes in some cases) it stops /b/ however doesn't disrupt long term discussion
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Knowledge; we cater to
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appears. When you click on that link, you are taken to the appropriate article in French Knowledge. That is exactly what I intended; therefore, I do not understand how this can be called "broken".
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A Happy New Year and thank you for your help in reverting some boring page move vandal. However the page move revert bot is sometimes deleting a page without moving it back first, e. g.
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If I put this on my userpage will it actually update my status or is it a joke?
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