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I feel that we are running in circles. I have provided you with a series of
Knowledge guidelines laiding out a modus operandi. No, I don't care in the slightest about providing readers with a directory of websites (particularly a directory of profit-driven websites) at the end of any article which I
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So, I'm not to going to insist on my edits with those templates to be reinstated - and playing editing policeman would be just silly. But I'm going to continue doing things the way other
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Interesting that you are not addressing the point of this conversation, Spanish intelligence services should change their employment strategy to recruit more intelligent agents. Because why would anyone be so adamant to completely focus on the person who added the addition instead of addresing the
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With all due respect, how can YOU verify this claim: "On 15 January 1941, Alfonso XIII renounced his rights to the defunct
Spanish throne in favour of Juan. He died of a heart attack in Rome on 28 February that year." because it ALSO lacks a source. Reverting my "conspiratorial" addition, without
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English Knowledge's foremost authority on what readers should care to know about Ochandiano's filmmaking career, big deal or not. According to the bold green numbers in the edit history, anyway. I don't understand what you mean by "malpractice" or "post-data", but I hear you
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I actually happened to dispute your addition by sourcing the most recent biography on the subject, go figure. You've already managed to amuse me around here. If you still have issues with the current version of the article, including a cardiovascular disease-related cause of death being very
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the EL section should be kept minimal. Under the purview of those guidelines, I don't think that those "countless" examples you mention abide to those guidelines, what else can I tell you... Well yes, I can tell you that the duplication resembles to
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The text is actually more brief, straightforward and to the point now in that regard than before (6 words now vs 9 words before). In addition, at 522 words, the plot section as a whole currently falls within the size recommendation as per
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And secondly, just take a look at countless other pages related to films - they all have {{Metacritic film|manticore_2022|Manticore}} and {{Rotten
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is suddenly bad or inappropriate. Just ask yourself this: why are those templates provided at all if apparently everybody is supposed to follow your modus operandi and type all those words on every edited page again and
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addition itself (with sources if possible), and since YOU cannot dispute my addition (most likely because you are being paid to do so, which is understanable) you in fact directed the attention onto me for some reason
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biases. Not those of historiography. Please describe those biases to me. It is a pet pleasure of mine to read such inputs. It is your onus to provide reliable sources for your loony conspiracy theories.--Asqueladd
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It's still as stubby now, factwise, just has repeated words, needless spaces and a section header filling it out. If you don't care, I don't think you're sorry, and that's fine. Thanks for removing the
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hello. so i'm not sure what you mean by 'hijacking the source'; did you mean my edits were too close to Larsen's original words? (if so, apologies). ps. i fixed a little typo your edit introduced.
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and countless other pages follow the same convention. And you insisting that the link you added when writing approval rating should be preserved, and what's more shouldn't be duplicated -
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to see why it has been listed (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry). Feel free to add your opinion on the matter below the nomination. Thank you.
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Not that it matters when it comes to undoing the addition of unsourced content, but I actually have. And for all means, please describe my biases to me in the
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I apologise for having upset you again, mate. Could you just explain to me briefly which verification of the claims I've removed in that revision,
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Only in case you used the
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His article doesn't note anything he directed, but the lead you restored calls him a director. Is this just a result of you undoing
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now are you telling me that if the text for that film's approval rating was written by hand and included a citation with link to
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I don't know. I don't really care. I did just remove it. PS: stubifying is not the sensible move either way, sorry.--Asqueladd (
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this format was alright. And what did you just add as accolades? Random festival selections
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