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Manaslu is still an island at this point it loses any potential parentage claim to its neighbor Annapurna in favor of Cho Oyu. Presumably this is because there is a very long northern
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it is the NEXT HIGHER PEAK. Therefore, Cho Oyu is Manaslu's parent. Now explain to me why Manaslu is not Annapurna’s parent, using your system. Manaslu is higher than Annapurna, and is located between Annapurna and Cho Oyu.
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