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745:, a federal district governed by the US Congress. A city has no place being a top-level topic in this template; only the District has such a place. Only the District of Columbia is a state- and territory-level entity within the United States. Furthermore, it is questionable whether such a city actually exists (but I should say that even if such a city still legally exists, it by no means derogates my above argument). As such, I propose that the default be "District of Columbia" instead of the city within it. For the same reasons, the State of Washington does not need pre-disambiguation with a city in a template about state- and territory-level topics, so that suffix should be removed as well. 1740: 1650: 71: 53: 1308:" is NOT an insular area, it is an island chain. Guam is an insular area, and the Northern Mariana Islands is insular area, just as American Samoa, Puerto Rico, and the USVI. They are distinct political entities like the other three and should not be treated as a subset of The Marianas, which hold no political status in the US. No other template transcluding this one has links specific to this archipelago generally; this template does not have the formatting for it because it is unnecessary. I will remove it again in several days. 22: 2245:
Cooks and Niue are to New Zealand -- those are not members of the UN only because NZ said they'd lose their right to migration, something the US doesn't seem to mind in the case of the CFA states. You could argue to remove American Samoa from the template as well, because it's not in the US and its people are not US citizens. On the other side, we don't list tribal jurisdictions even though they are in the US and their people are US citizens. It's a judgement call where to draw the line.
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It's not colonialism to call things as they are. They're clearly a US topic. All 3 countries nenewed their CFA status just last year, and the US govt is partially responsible for them -- I don't know what counts as 'jurisdiction' in such cases. They are not part of the US, but are a lot like what the
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Add a "By type" section for types of power stations. The first subsection would include "Non-renewable" U.S. power stations with "Coal", "Natural Gas", and "Nuclear". The second subsection would include "Renewable" U.S. power stations with "Geothermal", "Hydroelectric", "Solar", and "Wind (Onshore •
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If you look at the sources for that statement, one of them is out of date, and the other says that the three countries are not under the jurisdiction of the United States. I don't think they belong in any "United States topic" navboxes. It reeks of colonialism to list sovereign nations in a "United
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Shouldn't the edit links connect to the topic template, rather than to this one? If we want to customize universities or abortion in the US or whatever, we shouldn't be directed here. Or is that already an option somewhere? I just made a bad edit to this template because I clicked 'E' and thought I
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and the "Category: XX media" for all other states. I expect that there are other examples. The category moves resulting from this CFD were overzealously done (in good faith, but still, too many inappropriate categories were renamed). The CFD needed to be thought through more carefully, with each
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having these appear in a template of the Demographics of United States Topic will be pointless. It won't take you to an article about demographics. On the whole, there's probably more articles that won't exist than those that will. If there is a situation where they perhaps may be useful, it is
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We currently do not have (and most likely never will have) a sufficient amount of topical articles to warrant the inclusion of these links. The only ones I know of that are not redirects are two history stubs (both of which ought to be merged and redirected as well), but these don't use this
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This isn't about notability, it's about navigation. This group can be exclude from usage on specific pages. There are a fair number of uses of this to link to page sections via redirect, which is a reasonable means to navigate to whatever content is present in the project.
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Right at the beginning: "In the law of the United States, an insular area is a U.S.-associated jurisdiction that is not part of a U.S. state or the District of Columbia. This includes ... three sovereign states each with a Compact of Free Association with the United
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None of the similar renamed categories (culture, cuisine, literature, law) are linked via this template, so apparently I changed it only for the media category. If that is renamed back, then there will be no need to revise this template. –
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You're miffed about the flatlist discussion. Here, your seeking to cut a template group, and are willing to try to delete articles that the group navigates to, merge others, all to support your agenda. It's disruptive to this project.
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to cease using this template because something like a dozen states don't have any lighthouses. I'm not up on template syntax but it might be useful for the lighthouses and other limited lists to have a way to exclude a set of states.
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This is not a standalone template, it is a shell. It should never be used without modification, and thus never link directly to the places in question. As for the title, it is a standard format for these series of templates.
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Thanks. If only one category was moved incorrectly, that's pretty darn good. There were a lot of category names to sort through in that CFD; I'm sure that if I had been doing it, I would have gotten more than one wrong. –
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I have reverted the change to this template. It was misapplied in good faith. This template lists the name of each state or territory, followed by an optional suffix, so it was already working correctly. –
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is an IOS statistical designation, not a type of U.S. political division; the term has no basis in U.S. federal law. As such, I propose that the 9 islands grouped under that heading be moved to the
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I can understand not wanting to break consistency. The two templates' similar names are still terribly confusing, though. Would you foresee any problems moving the other one? Perhaps to
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How about "United States topic basis" then? Gets the point across clearly that it's the "basis" for those other templates, and sufficiently differentiates it from "United States topics".
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Hello, Night w asked me for my thoughts on this, having dealt with many similar templates before. I had an almost identical situation with these islands when working on
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about notability. I don't have a problem with Chipmunkdavis' suggestion. By default, they shouldn't appear when obviously unnecessary, and they should
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or (harder?) making a further edit on the template so that when there is neither a "prefix" nor a "suffix" then it links to Guam, not Guamanian. –
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The instructions seem to indicate that this template should be used to create a template page, not that it should be placed in an article. See
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Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a
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According to those countries' articles, they are sovereign countries and members of the United Nations. I am unable to find a claim in
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on "Alabama". Do you want the link in all articles and templates or only in some? I don't think it should be in all but it could be in
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on Knowledge. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the ongoing discussions.
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possible to create a complicated coding to have them shown only when a certain field is given, which is what we have at
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US geography, or at least all parent pages, which this template does not cover. That's already covered within
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As stated in my edit summary, the change was required following the category renamings to Guamanian, see
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Yeah, I completely understand the natural disambiguation issue you're pointing out. But please also see
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then it's not a topic that is notable enough to warrant an article. For reference, the subcategories in
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Add "Navbox United States" because I wanted to have an American counterpart to "Navbox Canada"
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States" navbox. Changing the wording to "Territories", as you have done, looks right to me. –
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and click the edit link on the "Rivers of the United States" navbox, I am correctly taken to
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non-state territories. Do you think that would be better? Or does it give you any ideas?
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Offshore)". This request mirrors what is seen in the "By type" section of the Knowledge
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is used directly or through another template in 1859 articles. 93 articles directly use
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I'm thinking now that there is likely few, if any people watching this talk. I see
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under another template. I would like the ability to disable the navbar by adding:
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We list them specifically under the section heading 'Freely associated states'.
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proposed category compared to parallel categories for states and territories. –
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Never mind! It was Abortion by US state. It was just missing the 'name' param.
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Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a
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This will keep the current default setting, but give the ability to pass the
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I have to agree. I had trouble picking a replacement name. I had considered
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appear when a link redirecting to a section is deemed an aid to navigation.
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I see you're new here. You might want to check out our guidelines regarding
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would contain all the articles of relevance to this navbox if any existed.
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this one. The template looks like it functions similarly to how those at
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in the "above" of this template? It should certainly have a place here.
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please make your requested changes to the template's sandbox first; see
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I am not an historian of DC, but was born here and was employed by the
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commented above, would you be able to make such an adjustment? Best -
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They're just not written yet. You're being disruptive, reverting.
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Always link to an example when reporting a problem. When I go to
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so the V T E links go to the right page. That template could use
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is the City of Washington, a (municipal) corporation, within the
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Can someone add |noredlinks = so that we can reduce red links
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for 20 years. I only had to do a brief search to find this:
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But yes, we definitely need better refs in that article.
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Why? Red links can encourage the creation of articles. –
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I've tried to use the template on several articles now
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that says those nations are current insular areas. –
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a
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